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  1. #26617

    5/17 report

    Met Vagabundo in centro and he showed me around all day. Great guy, very observant. Learned a lot about his modus operandi.

    We start out the day around 12 and went to Dark Room. There were about 4 available, mostly morena / mulata from thin to a bit thick.

    Afterward, we moved to Central Station and got a few sims. I ended up getting one for 16 are without having to use any ID. Easy peasy, wish I had his guidance when I first came to Rio, which would've save me so much time trying to get a sim card.

    Then heading north on metro to VM. Exit left to VM and right to Tijuca. I walked the street with Vagabundo and it felt safe, maybe because there was daylight. There were SWs from the metro towards VM. At VM, we walked about and Vaga collected numbers of the girls he liked and then ended up sessioned a girl while I waited for him having a beer. VM is pretty much what everyone described, grimy and dirty. Some girls are decent looking, but not my cup of tea.

    We then ubered back to his place in Barra the Tijuca. He cooked salmon and rice for dinner while we chill until another member join us (Ptg) for Paris Cafe and Perola Negra.

    Around 9 PM we headed to Paris Cafe, but on the way our uber driver showed us location of SWs towards Paris Cafe. Vagabundo ended with several numbers for next time. Paris Cafe (30 are cover) had some decent looking girl around 9 PM, I didn't session there (450 r / HR) but got a number. I actually talked to her today and she quoted me 400 r / HR or 700 r / HR with anal at my place. Going to skip.

    Afterward around 12 AM, we got to Perola Negra, a lot more girls here, maybe because it was later? Cover is 30 r. From my understanding, the girls quote their own price and our friend Ptg got quoted at 650 are / HR. Ptg and I thought it was way too much for the talents here.

    It was a great day in Rio, because it was a great tour from Vagabundo. This was my first time ever going to Barra. The area looks nice. There are a few prives / clinicas there, ranging 250 are / HR to 300 are / HR if you stay there and don't want to go to centro. If it is your first time in Rio, reach out to Vagabundo and ask him to show you around.

  2. #26616

    No!

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Can't we all just get along?
    LOLOLOL! LMAO! Hahaha!

  3. #26615
    Quote Originally Posted by LoverBoy#2  [View Original Post]
    The negative term used in southern Brasil is crioulo. It doesn't seem that it should be negative. But is.
    Can't we all just get along?

  4. #26614
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearsi  [View Original Post]
    I concur with this.

    When I was out with Harley from SP in rio I really didn't worry about hiding any money or my stuff from her. She never asked for anything and even when I did pay for food and other small stuff she would try to tell me not to. When we stayed in our Airbnb in arraial she told me to hide my money and keep it locked up or something.

    I am definitely not the type of guy to trust anyone in fact every time I session with a GDP in my apartment or hotel I always take a quick shower after the deed because I'm always skeptical that they might get curious and go through my luggage or backpack although so far none have but it's always on the back of my mind.

    Had a buddy of mine who almost got his Rolex stolen but he figured it out before she left and got it back from her purse before she ran out the door with a BS excuse.

    So it's definitely a possibility.

    But after you see a girl several times and you get to know them you can make up your decision and use your best judgment because it's great to have a girl you can just relax and honestly not worry about anything with.

    Brazilian girls have a very relaxed attitude and really seem to put priority of having a good time over money as many of us have read how some girls charge way less for some guys or refuses to accept their money afterwards. And they really need it with their undervalued money.

    Girls from more prosperous countries like the USA or the such I've heard so many thieving stories as I believe they want as much as they can get and use that to buy more stuff from our consumer driven mindset that's always selling us happiness for a price tag. Brazilian girls are materialistic as well but I feel they value a good time and experience over potentially getting some extra cash.

    The girl my friend was going to get robbed from was from Miami.
    I agree that in my experience Brazilian girls are more trustworthy and just want to have fun as compared to Colombians who are always only thinking about money and even a girl you spent days with you usually can't trust because she will try to rob you still.

    You mention undervalued money in Brazil. The Real is the best performing currency globally year to date in 2022, I wish you were right.

  5. #26613
    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    I don't and I wouldn't recommend anyone to do so but sometimes leaving small amount of money out in the open would tell you everything you want to know about a person at (possibly) small price, especially if you're consider taking them with you on the long trip where hiding places are few but potential for grab and dash are many
    I concur with this.

    When I was out with Harley from SP in rio I really didn't worry about hiding any money or my stuff from her. She never asked for anything and even when I did pay for food and other small stuff she would try to tell me not to. When we stayed in our Airbnb in arraial she told me to hide my money and keep it locked up or something.

    I am definitely not the type of guy to trust anyone in fact every time I session with a GDP in my apartment or hotel I always take a quick shower after the deed because I'm always skeptical that they might get curious and go through my luggage or backpack although so far none have but it's always on the back of my mind.

    Had a buddy of mine who almost got his Rolex stolen but he figured it out before she left and got it back from her purse before she ran out the door with a BS excuse.

    So it's definitely a possibility.

    But after you see a girl several times and you get to know them you can make up your decision and use your best judgment because it's great to have a girl you can just relax and honestly not worry about anything with.

    Brazilian girls have a very relaxed attitude and really seem to put priority of having a good time over money as many of us have read how some girls charge way less for some guys or refuses to accept their money afterwards. And they really need it with their undervalued money.

    Girls from more prosperous countries like the USA or the such I've heard so many thieving stories as I believe they want as much as they can get and use that to buy more stuff from our consumer driven mindset that's always selling us happiness for a price tag. Brazilian girls are materialistic as well but I feel they value a good time and experience over potentially getting some extra cash.

    The girl my friend was going to get robbed from was from Miami.

  6. #26612

    Southern Brasil

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I am not sure where you learned that, but it is far from true. Calling a Black person Preto or Preta is a term of endearment. That is one of the first things I learned in Portuguese over 20 years ago. I am Black so maybe it is a Black thing and works the same way as in the States. A Black person can say WhatsUp Black to another Black person and it is all love. If a White person says that to a Black person it may go a different way.

    Don't know if I can recall being called Preto in Brazil by someone that is not Black though. Many times I will be called Negao (Big Black Dude) by people that are not Black. So maybe we are both right. It could be a matter of perspective and depends on who is saying what to whom.
    The negative term used in southern Brasil is crioulo. It doesn't seem that it should be negative. But is.

  7. #26611

    Colloquialism

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Damn sure is. I have only been called that twice in my life and one was one night in Moscow when I asked a 20 year old girl at a bus stop if there was an internet cafe close by. It was like she had been practicing her whole life to say it to someone. No idea why she took me asking for directions so harshly. Soon this drunk guy, Alex, with his wife stumbled along and was happy to help me. But he mistook me saying internet cafe for ATM. He was trying to hang out with me after showing me to the ATM, but his wife was busy cussing him out trying to get him to come on.
    It's actually not always meant to be an insult (although it sounds really bad to an American ear). It's colloquial Russian for a black person (sounds just as bad in German by the way). More formal Russian for a black person from America would be "Afroamerikanets" or "Afroamerikanski", depending on who is saying it (you might hear either).

  8. #26610
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I am not sure where you learned that, but it is far from true. Calling a Black person Preto or Preta is a term of endearment. That is one of the first things I learned in Portuguese over 20 years ago. I am Black so maybe it is a Black thing and works the same way as in the States. A Black person can say WhatsUp Black to another Black person and it is all love. If a White person says that to a Black person it may go a different way.

    Don't know if I can recall being called Preto in Brazil by someone that is not Black though. Many times I will be called Negao (Big Black Dude) by people that are not Black. So maybe we are both right. It could be a matter of perspective and depends on who is saying what to whom.
    The one thing I've learned in Brazil is to let the girl self-identify. One girl might call herself a mulata and another girl with the same complexion will not. It's not like I go around saying "hey mulata, want to come back to my place?

    Newbies are probably best advised to stay off this topic with girls unless they bring it up.

  9. #26609
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    However, the n-word in Russia, pronounced the same as in the States, is a very deliberate insult exactly as it is here.
    Damn sure is. I have only been called that twice in my life and one was one night in Moscow when I asked a 20 year old girl at a bus stop if there was an internet cafe close by. It was like she had been practicing her whole life to say it to someone. No idea why she took me asking for directions so harshly. Soon this drunk guy, Alex, with his wife stumbled along and was happy to help me. But he mistook me saying internet cafe for ATM. He was trying to hang out with me after showing me to the ATM, but his wife was busy cussing him out trying to get him to come on.

  10. #26608
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    You seem to be an experienced monger, but please do NOT trust Brazilian or any Latin American girls with your money. Maybe Susy is one rare, unblemished diamond, but stay with Brazilian girls long enough (especially if she gets it into her head that you've crossed her somehow), and they'll come up with a customized scam designed especially for you.
    I don't and I wouldn't recommend anyone to do so but sometimes leaving small amount of money out in the open would tell you everything you want to know about a person at (possibly) small price, especially if you're consider taking them with you on the long trip where hiding places are few but potential for grab and dash are many.

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  11. #26607
    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    Here I'd like to take a sidestep and make a race-related comment especially for the black mongers that come to Brazil for a short stay. Negro in Portuguese is not offensive while 'preto' which in Portuguese means 'black' is. I realize that it would take a bit getting used to but that's how it is. I wish some black hobbyists that live here in Brazil would back me up on that.
    I am not sure where you learned that, but it is far from true. Calling a Black person Preto or Preta is a term of endearment. That is one of the first things I learned in Portuguese over 20 years ago. I am Black so maybe it is a Black thing and works the same way as in the States. A Black person can say WhatsUp Black to another Black person and it is all love. If a White person says that to a Black person it may go a different way.

    Don't know if I can recall being called Preto in Brazil by someone that is not Black though. Many times I will be called Negao (Big Black Dude) by people that are not Black. So maybe we are both right. It could be a matter of perspective and depends on who is saying what to whom.
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  12. #26606
    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    I quickly grew to trust Susy with my money and things. I'd tell her to take so much to do this and that and she would always bring what she didn't spent back. She would always insist on taking the lead when she thought that my being a gringo would cause me additional hassle and expense and would readily disappear if she thought that her presence could impede me in some way. After all a white gringo and a local Negra make it all but transparent, eh?.
    You seem to be an experienced monger, but please do NOT trust Brazilian or any Latin American girls with your money. Maybe Susy is one rare, unblemished diamond, but stay with Brazilian girls long enough (especially if she gets it into her head that you've crossed her somehow), and they'll come up with a customized scam designed especially for you.

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  13. #26605

    Swingers Party

    Bom DIA.

    Is anyone attending the Hots & Cucks party on this Thursday night?

    Or any other swinger's party?

    Please share your experiences and if it's worth going there as a Single male.

    The charges are be $ 390 for single men.

  14. #26604

    Susy that made my stay in Rio a wow

    Before I go any farther, I want to reiterate that this lady is GDP and would be perfectly content with short time dates too. I'm just going to recount my experience with her, and you can draw your own conclusions about how my priorities factor in here.

    The other thing that I'd like to note is that I speak pretty good Portuguese so I can't tell you how limited her English is. I think she's up to par on professional terms as to the rest I just wouldn't know since our communication was in Portuguese sprinkled with occasional 'honey', 'baby', and 'blow job'. BTW, anyone knows how to say 'lazy dog' in Portuguese?

    I met this girl on my first day back to Brazil after almost 10-year absence as I was literally passing through Mab's. If by then I knew of Vagabundo's guide to Rio I probably would've read it or at least scanned through it, and we probably would've never met. It sure would've been her loss but it would've been my loss too. Because if it wouldn't be for waking up to this beaming face on our trip to Bouzios and beyond, my stay there would be much emptier and less eventful than it ended up being. Talking about money well spent.

    No, I'm not particularly into black girls, and I actually prefer 150 cm (4'9") spinners to a chick of my height and body type but this. This sure was special.

    By the time I saw Susy that night I already took pretty mulatta (or Morena, as I soon realized your perception of those terms largely depends on your own racial make-up), named Flavia to my room at the Othon Palace so as far as I was concerned, I was basically done for the night, especially after pretty much exhausting myself in the jungle of Suriname (see my report on mongering in Suriname in the Suriname section).

    Susy was standing a bit out of sight in relation to Mab's, so I didn't notice her until I was already crossing Prado Junior. We made fleeting eye contact and she predictably smiled (they usually do). I already crossed to the other side of the street but there was something about that smile that made me spin 180. I went straight for her and said that I wouldn't be taking her with me today but will call her later if she gave me her number. She appeared predictably skeptical and tried to change my mind, but it wasn't happening.

    Few days later I indeed called. By then I already moved out of Othon palace to an awesome Airbnb with a balcony to die for! I was on the 10th floor, the view to the beach was a wow, and I managed to get lost in my new apartment soon after moving in by trying to exit through the bathroom instead of where the door was.

    Soon she showed up and I (or rather 'we') never looked back. Wow, what a girl. Susy is a typical woman from comunidade (sort of like favela but on the flat surface) but in many ways not typical at all. By no means Susy is a small woman but there is zero aggression in her at all! She would tell me later that her friends would tease her that she wouldn't push back: 'Come on,' they'd say, 'you're pretty imposing looking black mama! How come you avoid arguing so much!' We all know girls from favela. They can be pretty firm when need to be. Not this one. I saw her regularly while I was in Rio and later in Bouzios and Arraial where we spend over a week in very close quarters. There was not a single argument, imagine that? Sure, it takes two to tango but still. Once, while still in Rio I was trying to persuade her to take something of mine home and raised my voice a bit and she exclaimed 'please don't fight with me!' and we weren't even arguing let alone 'fighting'!

    All throughout our trip to Bouzios and Arraial she participated in all the crazy activities that I'the drug ourselves into (how can you almost get yourself killed in Bouzios out of all places? Which I know for a fact that many Brasileiras, whether GDP or not (have ample experience with both), would refuse outright to take part in. She managed to conquer her fear of the rough open sea in the small motor boat, and at some point, even turned my occasional nagging about completing her hikes on me and began pushing me up the mountain. I quickly grew to trust Susy with my money and things. I'd tell her to take so much to do this and that and she would always bring what she didn't spent back. She would always insist on taking the lead when she thought that my being a gringo would cause me additional hassle and expense and would readily disappear if she thought that her presence could impede me in some way. After all a white gringo and a local Negra make it all but transparent, eh?

    Here I'd like to take a sidestep and make a race-related comment especially for the black mongers that come to Brazil for a short stay. Negro in Portuguese is not offensive while 'preto' which in Portuguese means 'black' is. I realize that it would take a bit getting used to but that's how it is. I wish some black hobbyists that live here in Brazil would back me up on that. BTW, the same goes for Russia and many other countries.

    Don't worry people I'm getting there. LOL Susy sure knows her way in the sack too. If you're like me, and you enjoy French kissing but don't appreciate when a woman is consistently trying to examine your throat with her hard tongue then you would have hard time finding a better kisser in Rio than Susy. I think I only met two women in my life that kiss as well as she does. Her full lips only add to the sensation. Plus, this woman really loves to kiss, just as you probably guessed do I, so from that perspective we both hit a bullseye.

    Susy is a dynamite in bed. I know many Brasileiras are too, but this chick really feels it. She'd take it any way you want it, and with a smile, and chances are, would be willing to try new things if you have anything to propose in that regard.

    One of the highlights of our trip was Susy's perpetual search for another woman to join us. While in Rio she tried to set me up with at least two of her GFs but there just wasn't enough time. On the road, it felt at times that every single woman she sees she thinks is GDP and needs to be asked if she'd be willing to play with us. When I would make a comment about this, Susy would invariably respond that she knows how her colleagues feel, walk & talk better than I do, something that I had hard time countering. She also insisted that while she is fine with me making a choice, she should be the one to make the initial contact to ensure that a woman is simpatica and not too professional. I mean, hell, would anyone really oppose that?

    My small obsession was getting a blonde to join us on my birthday which fell on our time in Arraial. If anyone knows anything about Arraial do Cabo he'd know that there is a very limited choice of GDP there. In fact, there is very limited choice of anything there besides beautiful beaches. The choice is much greater half-and-hour drive away in Cabo Frio but in Arraial itself it's nada or rather quasi nada. So that woman befriends a bored Argentine loira, a civi, not even a GDP, in the building's swimming pool and convinces her to come to our place for my birthday. We laugh a little, we dance a little, we drink a little and wow, that sure was a birthday to remember!

    When it was time to part, I gave Susy twice the amount of money that I promised to give her at the onset of our trip. Sue me.
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  15. #26603

    Legal

    Hey Vagabundo,

    Thanks for reply.

    I'm not sure about the sections of laws charges against the 4 x 4. I just read the update on their Tweets - https://twitter.com/4x4Whiskeria/sta...GyRQiEOUM_XA&s.

    That made me worry about the safety of customers and legal aspects as a customer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1  [View Original Post]
    What are the details on the 4 x 4 police raid?

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