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  1. #19236

    Tomjackin.

    Tomjaackin is one of the absolute best trip reporters on this entire site, especially when it comes to coverage of Latin America. So for anybody to question that is laughable. Check out the Reports of Distinction for Latin American destinations, and you will find plenty of his field reports in there. Keep up the good work my man! Those of us in the know appreciate it.

  2. #19235
    Quote Originally Posted by Kcrl02  [View Original Post]
    the ignorance of the average gringo is appalling. These assholes (especially Americans) think every woman in Brasil is selling their pussy and is dying to hook up with a gringo. Quite, the opposite. Typically, when I go out I only speak Portuguese and I avoid Americans like the plague. When in actuality the majority of these women I meet & work with are usually doctors, lawyers, bankers, stockbrokers, IT types, engineers, scientists, accountants, Ph. The. University professors & MBA businesswomen working for Fortune 500 firms. Many have their own businesses and they're not just beauty & nail salons either. They drive BMWs, Benzes, Jeeps, & Land Rovers. Their homes are in the most exclusive gated communities (Alphaville, for example). Several have been educated at Stanford, MIT, UCLA, Oxford & the Sorbonne. Many attended the US schools on volleyball & football (soccer) athletic scholarships. On average they'll probably speak 2-3 different languages.
    Yes women like that are what we consider upper class Brazilians. Of course they are not crazy to hook up with a gringo. In Brazil, doctors, lawyers, bankers, etc. Are considered rich, They have a good paying job and are well off. They don't care about Gringos. We are not talking about well off women.

    Why do you think Gringos monger in places like Thailand and the Philippines and not South Korea or Singapore. Because the average South Korean women have a high standard of living, So if your the typical average gringo, your not going to get love in South Korea like that when you compare.

    Places like Thailand where there is little to no opportunities. So Women are more willing to hook up with Gringos. When I talk about hooking up with Non-Pros in Brazil, I'm talking about the average to poor female. She is willing to sell her hole. I'm not talking about StockBrokers or bankers in Brazil.

    If you want to get with a upper class Brazilian, Your going to need good old fashion game and your going to need to know Portuguese. Most guys that travel to Brazil are on vacation and they usually stay 1-2 weeks max.

    So who wants to waste there time chasing well off upper class women that your almost never going to see again. Its one of the main reason why upper class women that are looking for relationships don't care for gringos because they know your not going to be in Brazil very long anyway.

  3. #19234

    History Lesson.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sperto  [View Original Post]
    That makes sense. Assuming any typical brazilian chick is for sale. If you let somebody else do the approach you don't risk to get beaten up by offended girls or their friends. You can hide behind a female scout.

    If somebody really wants to try your strategy they should know that prostitution in Brazil isn't illegal, but pimping/rufianismo is.
    Yeah, if memory serves me there was the case of girls, a gringo, a boat and the Federal Police. But hey, who are we to question a guy who has mastered Google search and committed every word in the self-published Foreign Girls are Easy to memory.

  4. #19233

    FYI: ForceSteeler.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    That is the reason why I say its easier to just hire a Brazilian female scout and have them find females for you.
    NOTE:

    In 1890, the Penal Code of Brazil penalized pimping (the activity performed by someone who manages the relationship between prostitute and client). Brazilian law criminalizes any third party who profits from the transaction, whether they are an abusive pimp, brothel owner, or private bodyguard.

    I'm think twice about the "hiring" a female scout thing. Get yourself a reliable Brasiliero wingman / or not, hang out and just go with the flow. And have plenty of $$ IMHO.

  5. #19232
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    That is the reason why I say its easier to just hire a Brazilian female scout and have them find females for you... Right now in Brazil is a major recession right now. Everybody is struggling and Yes most girls can be available for money.
    That makes sense. Assuming any typical Brazilian chick is for sale. If you let somebody else do the approach you don't risk to get beaten up by offended girls or their friends. You can hide behind a female scout.

    If somebody really wants to try your strategy they should know that prostitution in Brazil isn't illegal, but pimping/rufianismo is.

  6. #19231
    Quote Originally Posted by TomJackin  [View Original Post]
    No worries; I could care less about you too!
    My sentiments exactly! Your ass has probably never been out of the USA!

  7. #19230
    Quote Originally Posted by Kcrl02  [View Original Post]
    Typically, when I go out I only speak Portuguese and I avoid Americans like the plague.
    No worries; I could care less about you too!

  8. #19229

    Brilliant

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I totally agree with Sperto here. Perhaps you have Brad Pitt looks with James Bond type suave but do not give newbies the impression that any Brazilian babe is up for grabs.

    I remember a hilarious incident that happened to me decades ago when I first went to work in a small Caribbean island called Trinidad. I entered a collectivo type taxi and sat next to a hot local chick in a mini skirt with her lovely legs exposed. I immediately propositioned her thinking she would respond favorably to a well dressed foreigner. She loudly and quite effectively put me in my place for every one in the full vehicle to hear, telling me who do I think I am, etc. , etc. I was humiliated and got some harsh looks from others in the taxi. The young 20 year old Turgid certainly learnt a valuable lesson that day to try to be a little more respectful in future to all women, abroad and at home.
    Brilliant.

  9. #19228
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I totally agree with Sperto here. Perhaps you have Brad Pitt looks with James Bond type suave but do not give newbies the impression that any Brazilian babe is up for grabs.

    I remember a hilarious incident that happened to me decades ago when I first went to work in a small Caribbean island called Trinidad. I entered a collectivo type taxi and sat next to a hot local chick in a mini skirt with her lovely legs exposed. I immediately propositioned her thinking she would respond favorably to a well dressed foreigner. She loudly and quite effectively put me in my place for every one in the full vehicle to hear, telling me who do I think I am, etc. , etc. I was humiliated and got some harsh looks from others in the taxi. The young 20 year old Turgid certainly learnt a valuable lesson that day to try to be a little more respectful in future to all women, abroad and at home.
    In Life its all about your approach at the end of the day. If you walk up to typical Non-Pros Girl and offer them money for sex. Most are going to be offended because most non-pros don't want to be labeled a working girl or a prostitute. That is the reason why I say its easier to just hire a Brazilian female scout and have them find females for you. It's just like when I had sex with the funk singer. Lets say I tried to offer her money right after she finished her show performance like a typical gringo? She would turn me down and tell me to go fuck myself.

    But since I got another female to set things up and everything was private and not out in the public open where people are watching, Its easier for her to agree to my offer.

    Again I know I'm contradicting yourself when I say its all about the money, But its also about approach. Its like a car sales men, You can't use the same tactic on the same person. Everyone is different. You can achieve the same result at the end of the day but its all about your approach.

    You just have to understand basic human physiology and ego. Its the same thing with men. Some men will spend $100-$1000 thousands of dollars on Dinner, Dates and Gifts on dating women, but will not spend $150 on a working girl. The Reason? Its ego, most of them don't want to be labeled a John. Even though your paying for it directly or indirectly.

    So with that being said. Right now in Brazil is a major recession right now. Everybody is struggling and Yes most girls can be available for money. Again I'm not saying just walk up to any girl and offer her money. Again like I said before you have to deal with human ego.

    Some you can't be so blunt and direct. If you know Portuguese offer them dinner, and if you want to use my method, Just hire a Brazilian female scout. I personally find that when I get a female to do the work, I have over 90% success rate. Just my 2 cents.

  10. #19227
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    I do not think so. Maybe around 2010-2013 when Brazil Economy was good. But in 2018 with Brazil in Recession almost any girl is up for grabs ......................................
    I totally agree with Sperto here. Perhaps you have Brad Pitt looks with James Bond type suave but do not give newbies the impression that any Brazilian babe is up for grabs.

    I remember a hilarious incident that happened to me decades ago when I first went to work in a small Caribbean island called Trinidad. I entered a collectivo type taxi and sat next to a hot local chick in a mini skirt with her lovely legs exposed. I immediately propositioned her thinking she would respond favorably to a well dressed foreigner. She loudly and quite effectively put me in my place for every one in the full vehicle to hear, telling me who do I think I am, etc. , etc. I was humiliated and got some harsh looks from others in the taxi. The young 20 year old Turgid certainly learnt a valuable lesson that day to try to be a little more respectful in future to all women, abroad and at home.

  11. #19226

    Dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sperto  [View Original Post]
    This advice made me laugh. Imagine some newbies really believing in you, that any typical brazilian chick is for sale, and starts to ask random girls on the street if they are for sale. They will get beaten up badly and propably end up in jail.

    I remember four gringos in Arraial d'Ajuda in the nineties. They were a bunch of drunk a-holes with no knowledge of portuguese. They really thought that all brazilian girls were for sale. The only thing they could say in portuguese was "vinte e cinco reais". They approached random girls on the street and repeated "vinte e cinco reais" several times. They got beaten up by both guys and girls, they got mugged and also had a break-in in the house they rented. They did had some success with their "vinte e cinco reais"-strategy, but only with the village putas.
    Yes. While some advice here is just misinformation, others, if naively followed, could get you hurt. It is as if the posters have never actually been to Brazil and make things up in an attempt to impress the gullible.

    For example, can't tell you how many times when Brazil is mentioned that guys go on and on about how all the women on the beach run around topless. I love to ask them exactly where they do that and they stutter, you know Brazil. Right, you mean the country where even mulatas prefer tan lines? That Brazil?

  12. #19225

    Lmao!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sperto  [View Original Post]
    This advice made me laugh. Imagine some newbies really believing in you, that any typical brazilian chick is for sale, and starts to ask random girls on the street if they are for sale. They will get beaten up badly and propably end up in jail.

    I remember four gringos in Arraial d'Ajuda in the nineties. They were a bunch of drunk a-holes with no knowledge of portuguese. They really thought that all brazilian girls were for sale. The only thing they could say in portuguese was "vinte e cinco reais". They approached random girls on the street and repeated "vinte e cinco reais" several times. They got beaten up by both guys and girls, they got mugged and also had a break-in in the house they rented. They did had some success with their "vinte e cinco reais"-strategy, but only with the village putas.
    I've been living & working in Sao Paulo for almost the last 4 yrs. , the ignorance of the average gringo is appalling. These assholes (especially Americans) think every woman in Brasil is selling their pussy and is dying to hook up with a gringo. Quite, the opposite. Typically, when I go out I only speak Portuguese and I avoid Americans like the plague. When in actuality the majority of these women I meet & work with are usually doctors, lawyers, bankers, stockbrokers, IT types, engineers, scientists, accountants, Ph. The. University professors & MBA businesswomen working for Fortune 500 firms. Many have their own businesses and they're not just beauty & nail salons either. They drive BMWs, Benzes, Jeeps, & Land Rovers. Their homes are in the most exclusive gated communities (Alphaville, for example). Several have been educated at Stanford, MIT, UCLA, Oxford & the Sorbonne. Many attended the US schools on volleyball & football (soccer) athletic scholarships. On average they'll probably speak 2-3 different languages. Many are 2nd /3rd generation children of immigrants from Middle East & Europe. Which implies old money. They dress and look like super models. They travel to Europe, Africa, Asia & USA on business and for pleasure several times a year. Some are single moms, some are married (even have boy toys, usually their personal trainer or office husband). The hottest ones are 30-40 ish unmarried w / o kids. I'm guesstimating their average salaries are somewhere in the low mid 6 figures (US $ exchange rate). The only reason why I'd ever get to meet them is due to my firm's consulting services. Other than that they'd be way out of my league! Upside, I meet a rack of down to earth receptionists, analysts & accountants who are always looking to let off some steam at quitting time!

  13. #19224
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    Any typical Brazilian chick will do it in Brazil's current economic climate...
    This advice made me laugh. Imagine some newbies really believing in you, that any typical brazilian chick is for sale, and starts to ask random girls on the street if they are for sale. They will get beaten up badly and probably end up in jail.

    I remember four gringos in Arraial d'Ajuda in the nineties. They were a bunch of drunk a-holes with no knowledge of portuguese. They really thought that all brazilian girls were for sale. The only thing they could say in Portuguese was "vinte e cinco reais". They approached random girls on the street and repeated "vinte e cinco reais" several times. They got beaten up by both guys and girls, they got mugged and also had a break-in in the house they rented. They did had some success with their "vinte e cinco reais"-strategy, but only with the village putas.

  14. #19223
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    Any typical Brazilian chick will do it in Brazil's current economic climate. I would suggest when trying to find non-pros, Either Learn Portuguese or hire a female and give her a nice tip and let her be your scout for you to find women. My Success Rate is a lot higher when I have a Brazilian female contact another female and setup a meeting for me. I Guess Brazilian women feel more comfortable and safer with another Brazilian women, Then when I'm trying to setup things as a gringo. I usually get more flakes, where as with a women its almost 90% success rate.
    Best advice in a long time.

    A lot of brazilians are having a toughtime financially and it is quite hard for young people to get a job these days, which makes non-pros very available. If approached via a brazilian friend. Chances are much lower on your own as must simply do not meet the ladies under the right circumstances and you will also need to speak portuguese to success on your own. It is all about making the ladies feel safe with you, I. E. Having a trusted intermediary and of course making it worth their while.

    For most of my Rio career I have been a terma guy as it was easy and always plenty of choice, but these days I prefer to meet with a non-pro at my apartment and then have a full night with her. Dinner, movies and regular stuff as well. So pretty much a short time girlfriend rather than a 40 minute quickie at a terma.

    Currently I have 4 ladies whom I see when in Rio. They are 19-22 years old, attractive and take great care of me. One hairdresser, one underemployed model (not famous, but still gorgeous), one unemployed and one babysitter. Payment varies from dining and wining only, to pay per play and in one case ad hoc financial assistance.

    Aside from the financial aspects the ladies are also very keen on new experiences, being treated well and trying things they would otherwise not be able to do. I will give you two examples. During my last trip I invited one lady to a classical concert at Teatro Municipal. We dressed up nicely, went to the concert, had a post concert drink and then off to my place for the night. She was extatic about the whole experience and was very appreciative. Tickets were only R70 each for the good seats, so a pretty cheap night. For my upcoming trip I have promised one lady that we will go to a nice japanese restaurant in Zona Sul for dinner. She is from a poor part of Zona Norte and has never been to a nice restaurant. She is excited already also worried that she is not very chique. So I had to promise that I will order all the food and show her everything there (besides you do not want to let a brazilian lady choose your food). I plan to take her to buy a dress for the evening and I know I will be in heaven that night.

    Treat your lady for the night like a girlfriend and make her feel special and you will be rewarded many times over.

  15. #19222
    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    Rio became a pain in the ass with non-pros because the gringo sex scene gave women seen with Western men a bad reputation.

    I'm a bit too old to chase teenage and twentysomething non-pros now. I have to think that now that Help Disco and the whole Avenida Atlantica sex scene has basically been shutdown you can find non-pros more receptive to flirtation.
    I do not think so. Maybe around 2010-2013 when Brazil Economy was good. But in 2018 with Brazil in Recession almost any girl is up for grabs unless she is a upper class rich Brazilian. Last Year I fucked a world famous Brazilian funk singer and I had her in my apartment for about 600 Reals for the night. The BBC did a documentary on her in 2015 when they were talking about the upcoming Brazilian Olympics. I had one of the girls in the 4 x 4 Termas hook me up with her and I gave her 150 Real as a tip for the setup meeting. I know you might say 600 Real is expensive but this girl was a true dime. I'm talking smoking 10. When she came to my apartment, The Whole Block was staring at her. But to make a long story short. It gave me a lot of confidence. Because if you have a funk singer that is somewhat semi famous in the Funk Scene, willing to give up her ass for some dollars.

    Any typical Brazilian chick will do it in Brazil's current economic climate. I would suggest when trying to find non-pros, Either Learn Portuguese or hire a female and give her a nice tip and let her be your scout for you to find women. My Success Rate is a lot higher when I have a Brazilian female contact another female and setup a meeting for me. I Guess Brazilian women feel more comfortable and safer with another Brazilian women, Then when I'm trying to setup things as a gringo. I usually get more flakes, where as with a women its almost 90% success rate.

    But I'm heading to Brazil around the first week of November so I will give you guys updates on the Brazil mongering scene.

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