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  1. #26793
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    Despite what someone might assume about me...
    So you have choices based on your explanation. Do you choose her?

  2. #26792

    Amen!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Maybe you are thinking the American Dream is something that it is not. To me it is being able to get enough money to do what you want.
    The goal ought to be to get to a point when you have enough money to do what you want when you want. For me, that's the real definition of freedom. Almost there!

  3. #26791
    The side, tangential point is the main point: living in rich world puritan pussy prison america sucks.

    As for the girl, show me a beautiful girl, and I will show you a guy who is sick of fucking her.

    If you can figure out the logistics of digital nomad, retirement living in Brazil cheaply but better, then that's the prize.

    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    Despite what someone might assume about me, which I can completely understand, I'm in my early 40's I eat healthy and work out five days a week and in extremely good shape, I'm a salesman and I've slept with and dated a few of my coworkers and not uncommon for customers to ask me out or flirt. I've even dated a couple girls I've met at the gym so I'm actually very capable of interacting with other humans and dating attractive girls in my own country. I think part of the reason as I have a desire to live in a place like Mexico South America or Asians it's Much cheaper to live and in the US everybody is so materialistic in other countries people are happy with a lot less. I have worked my ass off too acquire the "" American Dream " to realize the American dream is not my dream now that I achieve that but anyways that's a little off topic. I'm not going to lie I have often question myself why I could fall for working girl, in Brazil I had success on the beach and on Tinder with girls who do not do that for work. Sometimes you just find a strong connection despite the situation I'm not saying that it's healthy I'm just saying that's how it is for me. Anyways despite how anybody feels about this topic on here I think it makes for an interesting discussion and see peoples viewpoints and experiences.

  4. #26790
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    I'm in my early 40's I eat healthy and work out five days a week and in extremely good shape, I'm a salesman
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    I don't mean to sound full of myself but I work out all the time I'm in really good shape and I'm a salesman
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    I'm 41 in great shape (not to sound like I'm full of my self but lets face it that matters sometimes)
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    Not once has she asked me for money and no I have not given any, except when we were together because she wasn't working and it's a lot less than she would get working.
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    I guess part of the reason why I was taking the seriouses because it 43 years old... I will give her credit that she's never asked me for any money I did give her about $1500 for the two weeks I was there just so she didn't have to worry about paying her bills because she wasn't at the club three or four nights a week working.
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    I think it makes for an interesting discussion and see peoples viewpoints and experiences.
    You want viewpoints and experiences. Judging by what you write the girls must consider you to be (Brazilian expression) "A última coca-cola do deserto". You have fallen in love with a prostitute. You write she doesn't charge you, but there is really no need to as you pay her anyway. More than many Brazilian earns in a month.

    Many first time visitors to Brazil get wild as they meet hot Brazilian GPS who give them better sex than they ever had in their life. These girls are smart and know how to make the gringos feel special. Soon they have a bunch of gringos sending them money on a regular basis.

    I had a GP-friend who I used to meet for free sex. She used to work at Barbarella. She had three Americans sending her money and expensive presents (laptops, phones and even a dog) every month. She received so much money that she stopped working at Barbarella. Sometimes when we met at her apartment (the rent was payed by one of her boyfriends) she had to interrupt our sex to sweet-talk on of the boyfriends who called her.

  5. #26789
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    I think part of the reason as I have a desire to live in a place like Mexico South America or Asians it's Much cheaper to live and in the US everybody is so materialistic in other countries people are happy with a lot less. I have worked my ass off too acquire the "" American Dream " to realize the American dream is not my dream
    Maybe you are thinking the American Dream is something that it is not. To me it is being able to get enough money to do what you want. And if that want is living in another place then Dream achieved.

    You are right about the materialism, but I think that is more of a young person's game anyway. At 50 I pretty much wear shorts from Goodwill, a t-shirt, and flip flops everyday. Versus when I was younger and had to have Polo everything. Overseas nobody looks at you crazy if you don't have a car. In most places in the USA you are kind of expected to have one.

  6. #26788
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    I'm not going to pretend to know you, but from reading your comments on different boards, I think I can presume to know at least a couple of things about you.

    1. You speak languages.

    2. You travel a lot.

    Now presume that you only have a week or two to enjoy your destination, maybe once or twice a year. Imagine further that you aren't fluent in Spanish or Portuguese. Would that affect your MO?

    Dating might not be a hard work, but it takes time. And it's hard to win a woman's heart via Google Translate, LOL.
    I have not always spoken different languages and I have not always traveled a lot. But I have always been interested in normal women and have never thought to enter a serious relationship with a hooker. As a matter of fact, my motivation for learning different languages was so that I could talk to women. I do have a degree in French and Education so that has made things easier for me on the learning other languages front.

    When I first started learning Portuguese me and a buddy were on the bus headed to Vila Mimosa. I started flirting with the lady that takes the money. Then my buddy started talking to her and he got her number. She told him that she did not understand my Portuguese. Then not sure if it was the same trip but I was waiting on the bus headed back to the airport. I met a beautiful chick but she did not speak English and I hardly spoke Portuguese. We exchanged numbers but communication in the days before all these cell phones whatsapp and google translate was slow. Those were motivators for me to get in gear.

    Then a couple of years later a buddy showed me Latin Cupid. The women on there were so beautiful. I said if I could speak Spanish I would be hell. That did not stop me though. First time to Peru I stayed at a chick's house. She did not speak English and I did not speak Spanish. But I spoke Portuguese and we were able to maneuver that way.

    First time to Colombia I went to see a lawyer that I met on the site. She took the bus 14 hours to Bogota to see me. I did not speak Spanish and she did not speak English. I had bought a little translator thing and a Spanish dictionary from Target. That turned out to be shit. When I got back I took the translator back and still have the small dictionary.

    First time to Dominican Republic I did not speak any Spanish. I was with a wingman from Miami though. I remember walking down the street talking to some hookers and one asked when I arrived. I asked my wingman how to say yesterday. He said ayer. Met a well to do chick on the site and she came to see me. We started dating. She spoke English though and now she lives in the States but still single. The rest is history.

    All I can say is whether I have spoken local languages or not, I have never been motivated to pursue a serious relationship with a sex worker. Maybe I see things different because I am from the street and used to hang out with the pimps in high school and was a DJ in the strip club my last year of high school. It just seems ridiculous to me when there are so many normal women around.

    By putting in a little effort you can meet and date them instead of the chick that fucks for a living. And this is coming from a guy that does not care if a chick is fucking other guys or not. Most boyfriends are really possessive and don't want their girl fucking other guys. To volunteer to try to turn the literal hoe into the proverbial housewife is beyond me.

  7. #26787
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    But why with hookers as opposed to women that are not? I can only assume that these men do not associate with regular women, so that leaves only hookers for them to fall for. Like it is hard for me to fathom a guy dating normal chicks on the regular then fucks a hooker a couple of times and is all of a sudden in love. For me normal chicks are 5 course home-cooked meals and hookers are on-the-go snacks in between. I would never try to make the snack my main meal.
    I'm not going to pretend to know you, but from reading your comments on different boards, I think I can presume to know at least a couple of things about you.

    1. You speak languages.

    2. You travel a LOT.

    Now presume that you only have a week or two to enjoy your destination, maybe once or twice a year. Imagine further that you aren't fluent in Spanish or Portuguese. Would that affect your MO?

    Dating might not be a hard work, but it takes time. And it's hard to win a woman's heart via Google Translate, LOL.

  8. #26786
    Much as vagabundo is a fan of Barra, the location of Hilton Barra sucks! Not at all near the beach. Search close to av gastao senges 395 if choosing barra.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kforab  [View Original Post]
    Dear friends,

    Which Hotel would you prefer?

    Hilton Barra or Copacabana?

    Barra is cheaper, Copacabana is near beach.

    Which Hotel is better for our sports?

    Thank you for any help!!

  9. #26785

    Fairpoint to assume this

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    But why with hookers as opposed to women that are not? I can only assume that these men do not associate with regular women, so that leaves only hookers for them to fall for. Like it is hard for me to fathom a guy dating normal chicks on the regular then fucks a hooker a couple of times and is all of a sudden in love. For me normal chicks are 5 course home-cooked meals and hookers are on-the-go snacks in between. I would never try to make the snack my main meal.
    Despite what someone might assume about me, which I can completely understand, I'm in my early 40's I eat healthy and work out five days a week and in extremely good shape, I'm a salesman and I've slept with and dated a few of my coworkers and not uncommon for customers to ask me out or flirt. I've even dated a couple girls I've met at the gym so I'm actually very capable of interacting with other humans and dating attractive girls in my own country. I think part of the reason as I have a desire to live in a place like Mexico South America or Asiais it's Much cheaper to live and in the US everybody is so materialistic in other countries people are happy with a lot less. I have worked my ass off too acquire the "" American Dream " to realize the American dream is not my dream now that I achieve that but anyways that's a little off topic. I'm not going to lie I have often question myself why I could fall for working girl, in Brazil I had success on the beach and on Tinder with girls who do not do that for work. Sometimes you just find a strong connection despite the situation I'm not saying that it's healthy I'm just saying that's how it is for me. Anyways despite how anybody feels about this topic on here I think it makes for an interesting discussion and see peoples viewpoints and experiences.

  10. #26784

    A wise man

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    People can absolutely develop feelings for each other. The reason why folks here get cynical is that they know it rarely works in the long run, especially if two people in question don't speak the same language. But as long as you're careful and know the odds, I say go for it.
    I say Amen!

  11. #26783

    Just play it by ear

    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    A follow up post about a relationship with a terma girl. Some of these questions were bought up about my post. As far as her family I only talk to her mom a couple times over WhatsApp because they are not talking now. She has older brothers and a younger brother younger brother I've only talked to over WhatsApp and the older brothers I've met in person along with some of her cousins and her close friends and a couple of girls that she works with. Her family knows exactly what she does and under the circumstances of how we met. It's definitely a culture shot coming from a Western Country where most family members would disown them and really look down on me as a customer. Not once has she asked me for money and no I have not given any, except when we were together because she wasn't working and it's a lot less than she would get working. We're pretty nuts know the ins and outs of each others lives. This is not my first rodeo mongering have been other places in the world but it absolutely is possible for two human beings to have a paid for interaction and develop feelings. I'm not saying that the situation is pleasant or even healthy for that matter all the time, but I'm surprised people here are so cynical to think under these circumstances people cannot fall for each other even in a situation where it doesn't work out. I'm not making up stories and I'm not embellishing anything obviously because there's a lot of negative aspects of this but I just thought I would share my experience good and bad.
    No reason to commit. Take it one day at a time. Ignore all the nonsense from the many jaded guys here. One day at a time is how love falls into place. Good luck! I hope it happens for you. Why not?

  12. #26782
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    People can absolutely develop feelings for each other. The reason why folks here get cynical is that they know it rarely works in the long run, especially if two people in question don't speak the same language.
    But why with hookers as opposed to women that are not? I can only assume that these men do not associate with regular women, so that leaves only hookers for them to fall for. Like it is hard for me to fathom a guy dating normal chicks on the regular then fucks a hooker a couple of times and is all of a sudden in love. For me normal chicks are 5 course home-cooked meals and hookers are on-the-go snacks in between. I would never try to make the snack my main meal.

  13. #26781
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    A follow up post about a relationship with a terma girl. Some of these questions were bought up about my post. As far as her family I only talk to her mom a couple times over WhatsApp because they are not talking now. She has older brothers and a younger brother younger brother I've only talked to over WhatsApp and the older brothers I've met in person along with some of her cousins and her close friends and a couple of girls that she works with. Her family knows exactly what she does and under the circumstances of how we met. It's definitely a culture shot coming from a Western Country where most family members would disown them and really look down on me as a customer. Not once has she asked me for money and no I have not given any, except when we were together because she wasn't working and it's a lot less than she would get working. We're pretty nuts know the ins and outs of each others lives. This is not my first rodeo mongering have been other places in the world but it absolutely is possible for two human beings to have a paid for interaction and develop feelings. I'm not saying that the situation is pleasant or even healthy for that matter all the time, but I'm surprised people here are so cynical to think under these circumstances people cannot fall for each other even in a situation where it doesn't work out. I'm not making up stories and I'm not embellishing anything obviously because there's a lot of negative aspects of this but I just thought I would share my experience good and bad.
    People can absolutely develop feelings for each other. The reason why folks here get cynical is that they know it rarely works in the long run, especially if two people in question don't speak the same language. But as long as you're careful and know the odds, I say go for it. And yes, Brazilian parents are much more forward-looking, so to speak, than their American counterparts. A girl once asked me to come up with her before going to the beach. Lo and behold, a mom was at home, and she was extremely friendly (and much younger than me, LOL). It would feel strange, but I'd had a similar experience in Thailand.

  14. #26780
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    Not once has she asked me for money and no I have not given any, except when we were together because she wasn't working and it's a lot less than she would get working.
    And this is why.

    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    I will give her credit that she's never asked me for any money I did give her about $1500 for the two weeks I was there just so she didn't have to worry about paying her bills because she wasn't at the club three or four nights a week working.
    You had already given her 8000 reais. How much money do you suppose she would have made in those 2 weeks? For some reason guys always overestimate what a hooker is making. They calculate it like there is constant guaranteed business, which it is not for most of them. It ebbs and flows.

    The minimum wage in Brazil is $217 or 1212 reais per month and you gave her almost 7 times that. To put things in perspective the minimum wage in the USA is $1160 per month. If you just handed someone in the USA $8120 (7 times the monthly minimum wage) for missing work 2 weeks I doubt they would be asking you for any more money for a long while either.

  15. #26779
    TravelGuy79, I'm clearly wrong, all I said was based on my personal experience with escorts.

    Maybe you found a different kind of family I've never met among escorts. I did find great human beings in the 100+ women I've had paid sex with (being more than 60% Brazilian), and yes, I can call some of them as friends.

    Good luck!!

    Quote Originally Posted by TravelGuy79  [View Original Post]
    A follow up post about a relationship with a terma girl. Some of these questions were bought up about my post. As far as her family I only talk to her mom a couple times over WhatsApp because they are not talking now. She has older brothers and a younger brother younger brother I've only talked to over WhatsApp and the older brothers I've met in person along with some of her cousins and her close friends and a couple of girls that she works with. Her family knows exactly what she does and under the circumstances of how we met. It's definitely a culture shot coming from a Western Country where most family members would disown them and really look down on me as a customer. Not once has she asked me for money and no I have not given any, except when we were together because she wasn't working and it's a lot less than she would get working. We're pretty nuts know the ins and outs of each others lives. This is not my first rodeo mongering have been other places in the world but it absolutely is possible for two human beings to have a paid for interaction and develop feelings. I'm not saying that the situation is pleasant or even healthy for that matter all the time, but I'm surprised people here are so cynical to think under these circumstances people cannot fall for each other even in a situation where it doesn't work out. I'm not making up stories and I'm not embellishing anything obviously because there's a lot of negative aspects of this but I just thought I would share my experience good and bad.

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