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  1. #7577
    Quote Originally Posted by Rahsta  [View Original Post]
    I will be in Sao Paulo in a few weeks for a few days on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Will check out Scandallo on Friday or Saturday. Last time I went to Scandallo was on a weekday. I saw 1 darkskin and 1 brownskin chick, the rest where white or damn near. No big bundas. Hopefully it would be fifferent this time around.
    Scandallo'best days are week days, Friday is slow, Saturday is awfull and Sunday is closed.

  2. #7576
    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    Scandallo on their website looks like current high end night clubs. Many stylishly decorated rooms including dining. Of course, you are paying for the upscale fanfare. Help Disco was just a giant room with a very high ceiling and a few step levels overlooking a sunken dance floor.

    You are correct ABG. It seems like Scandallo's pricing is out of whack with other alternatives. Prices negotiated in Help Disco were typically not higher than high-end termas and escorts. Some of the top girls might get what top escorts were getting, but that seems to make sense.

    What I was really interested in was the quality, diversity and quantity of the girls? It sounds like Scandallo is similar to the old Help. My experience was that Help had many 7-8's and several 9's, but that's subjective. If someotane was looking for a fair blonde or redhead, that was never a problem. Of course, stunning morenas and mulattas were always present. If you were looking for large, natural breasts, you could find several girls who met that bill, but of course this is not a widely shared trait in Brazil.
    You will be lucky to find one negra or mulatta in Scandallo. Help had way more variety.

  3. #7575
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    I think 95% is too high based on my visits (admittedly few). I would go with 85%.
    I will be in Sao Paulo in a few weeks for a few days on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Will check out Scandallo on Friday or Saturday. Last time I went to Scandallo was on a weekday. I saw 1 darkskin and 1 brownskin chick, the rest where white or damn near. No big bundas. Hopefully it would be fifferent this time around.

  4. #7574
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    I have not used acompanhantes in Brazil, but I have been very tempted. I've looked at some of the sites, and I have seen where a lot of them offer anal and CIM. It's just that in the past, I've had lots of problems with bait and switch or the girl who shows up at my door not looking like what was in the photos (but not in Brazil as I have not used escorts in that country). Also, I do like the social aspects of getting out of the hotel room and hitting the clinicas, boites, and termas and so on. But, like I said. I am mighty, mighty tempted to try an escort in Brazil!
    There is little risk if you use a local site like gpguia. I wrote a comment a few months back on how I approach the search. I work backwards looking for girls with many good reviews. I don't have time to try out newbies who can easily flake on honoring the appointment or worse flake during the session. Once I have a list of girls who sound beautiful and "talented", I look at their on-line photos which are in a multitude of Brazilian sites. Many Brazilian girls who are looking for real-time promoting of themselves are using twitter. There you usually find more candid non-photoshopped photos. If they look good to me and have good reviews, it will usually be a very good session. No worries usually of bait & switch.

    Too many Brazilian escort sites feature fake photos or girls who left the business a few years back as well as the issue of massive photoshopping. It can be a waste of time starting your search there.

    If you like getting out, book one of the Brazilian motels for a couple hours. Most are very inexpensive and generally well-maintained. The culture of hourly love motels is very advanced in Brazil and some countries. It's not like the dives in the USA Some pricier motels like Asturias can be love palaces equipped with large hot-tubs and pools.

  5. #7573
    Quote Originally Posted by AltoBomGosto  [View Original Post]
    If they keep with the hight prices customers will find better alternatives. IMO Scandallo has nothing similar to old HELP, it seems more like a club in Las Vegas.
    Scandallo on their website looks like current high end night clubs. Many stylishly decorated rooms including dining. Of course, you are paying for the upscale fanfare. Help Disco was just a giant room with a very high ceiling and a few step levels overlooking a sunken dance floor.

    You are correct ABG. It seems like Scandallo's pricing is out of whack with other alternatives. Prices negotiated in Help Disco were typically not higher than high-end termas and escorts. Some of the top girls might get what top escorts were getting, but that seems to make sense.

    What I was really interested in was the quality, diversity and quantity of the girls? It sounds like Scandallo is similar to the old Help. My experience was that Help had many 7-8's and several 9's, but that's subjective. If someone was looking for a fair blonde or redhead, that was never a problem. Of course, stunning morenas and mulattas were always present. If you were looking for large, natural breasts, you could find several girls who met that bill, but of course this is not a widely shared trait in Brazil.

  6. #7572
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I think The Cane was very unfortunate to have encountered garotas who would not do CIM even for extra cash. That is unusual in Brazil from my experience. Maybe by chance he encountered the 1% in that bracket. With respect to Help it was one of the major reasons I used to visit Rio, my last being in 2007. Help had a great mix of Brazilian women of all shapes, sizes, color and degrees of hotness. I always found someone there to rock my world. What I liked most about Help was that even if you went there late like 2. 30 am it was still rocking and the later you went the lower the price as girls got more desperate. Not to even mention the atmosphere, it had a particular vibe, there was always some drama going on which in itself was entertainment, it had the greatest atmosphere of any club of its kind that I've been to. Its closing had a lot to do with my not having returned to Rio. I don't expect the same of Scandallo but the reported hotness of the garotas has piqued my interest.
    If they keep with the hight prices customers will find better alternatives. IMO Scandallo has nothing similar to old HELP, it seems more like a club in Las Vegas.

  7. #7571
    I think The Cane was very unfortunate to have encountered garotas who would not do CIM even for extra cash. That is unusual in Brazil from my experience. Maybe by chance he encountered the 1% in that bracket. With respect to Help it was one of the major reasons I used to visit Rio, my last being in 2007. Help had a great mix of Brazilian women of all shapes, sizes, color and degrees of hotness. I always found someone there to rock my world. What I liked most about Help was that even if you went there late like 2. 30 am it was still rocking and the later you went the lower the price as girls got more desperate. Not to even mention the atmosphere, it had a particular vibe, there was always some drama going on which in itself was entertainment, it had the greatest atmosphere of any club of its kind that I've been to. Its closing had a lot to do with my not having returned to Rio. I don't expect the same of Scandallo but the reported hotness of the garotas has piqued my interest.

  8. #7570
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo10  [View Original Post]
    It sounds like AltoBomGosto commands Portuguese and screens the girls making them know he is willing to pay more and that it's a deal-breaker. He is also obviously a regular at some of these establishments. The girls might also know that if they are good performers he will recommend them to others.

    I'm not sure how you feel about escorts, but Sao Paulo has a great escort (acompanhante) scene. Surprisingly, many of the top escorts offer CIM and anal. It sounds like you have some knowledge of Portuguese. With some limited Portuguese, it's very easy to use gpguia and quickly figure out which escorts offer CIM and anal. If the woman offers these services, it's usually inclusive in her fee.
    CIM is to be paid separately as well as anal.

    Yes, I am Brazilian.

    ABG.

  9. #7569
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo10  [View Original Post]
    It sounds like AltoBomGosto commands Portuguese.
    I'd hope so, he's Brazilian!

  10. #7568

    Escorts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo10  [View Original Post]
    I'm not sure how you feel about escorts, but Sao Paulo has a great escort (acompanhante) scene. Surprisingly, many of the top escorts offer CIM and anal. It sounds like you have some knowledge of Portuguese. With some limited Portuguese, it's very easy to use gpguia and quickly figure out which escorts offer CIM and anal. If the woman offers these services, it's usually inclusive in her fee.
    I have not used acompanhantes in Brazil, but I have been very tempted. I've looked at some of the sites, and I have seen where a lot of them offer anal and CIM. It's just that in the past, I've had lots of problems with bait and switch or the girl who shows up at my door not looking like what was in the photos (but not in Brazil as I have not used escorts in that country). Also, I do like the social aspects of getting out of the hotel room and hitting the clinicas, boites, and termas and so on. But, like I said. I am mighty, mighty tempted to try an escort in Brazil!

  11. #7567

    Brooklin

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordico  [View Original Post]
    .....For the information of the members who hasn't visited Brooklin yet, the rooms upstairs are better because they have beds and not mattresses.
    Not all of the rooms will have beds. You must have gotten lucky. I was in SP back in June. Did 2 sessions upstairs. Both of the rooms I was in had mattresses on the floor.

  12. #7566
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    That's exactly what I tried to do too. Negotiate it in advance, but as I wrote, the overwhelming majority of the girls just outright refused to do CIM. And it wasn't a matter of my communication skills either. Bianca at Miruna knew exactly what I wanted but said no, it would have to be covered when it was time to finish. I guess I could have added that I would pay extra, like I do for anal when that's on offer, but the service does in fact need to be on the menu in the first place before offering to pay more for it will mean anything to the girl. The strong sense that I got was that the girls I chose were simply opposed to doing CIM, regardless of what I might offer to pay for it. Bianca gladly asked 50 reals extra for anal, but showed no interest at all in CIM at any price. That was my general experience in Sampa with regard to this. I think that the fact that you are a regular at these clinicas and a known commodity works greatly to your advantage in consistently getting CIM service. Probably has something to do with the overall type of girls you pick too. Who knows. All I know is that CIM was hard to obtain for me!
    It sounds like AltoBomGosto commands Portuguese and screens the girls making them know he is willing to pay more and that it's a deal-breaker. He is also obviously a regular at some of these establishments. The girls might also know that if they are good performers he will recommend them to others.

    I'm not sure how you feel about escorts, but Sao Paulo has a great escort (acompanhante) scene. Surprisingly, many of the top escorts offer CIM and anal. It sounds like you have some knowledge of Portuguese. With some limited Portuguese, it's very easy to use gpguia and quickly figure out which escorts offer CIM and anal. If the woman offers these services, it's usually inclusive in her fee.

  13. #7565
    Quote Originally Posted by Rahsta  [View Original Post]
    I started going to Rio in 2007, so around the same time. Pretty much all the girls in Help where available. Compare to Scandallo, Help had alot better mix a females. All shapes and colors, Scandallo has 95% European flavor. Help was a more party, club vibe than Scandallo at least to me. Scandallo is bigger in size than Help, but Help was big for club.
    I think 95% is too high based on my visits (admittedly few). I would go with 85%.

  14. #7564
    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    I don't mean to be argumentative, but I recall a very different Help. Help was kind of a giant Terma except for the rooms. On a big night, there could easily be a 100 plus woman in and out of Help. 95% who were available for hire. There were many European-looking 8 and 9's mixed in with the Morenas and Negras. The fair girls from the South were represented. In fact, some of the Centaurus girls would show up and get top dollar. I hooked up once with a fair skinned Reddish-Blonde woman who was easily a 9. 5. She made some easy money stripping in Miami and at my apartment acted like she was doing me a favor.

    Help had a self-selection process. The 5's and 6's usually stayed outside in the cafe and the hot girls would generally go into the club. I don't know what the girls paid to get into Help. I'm sure Scandallo has a self-selection (or management selection) process like that as well.

    The years visited could make a difference. I dropped into Help in 2008-2009 a couple times when the Brazilian Real was crazy strong and during the USA Financial crisis. There seemed to be less people. It didn't look like the period 2000-2006. I actually don't remember any seasonal variations in this hey day either. It was just always busy.

    I'm guessing one big difference now might be the prevalence of fake breasts (me no like). I have no idea how many Brasileiras now have fake butts. I shudder to think.
    I started going to Rio in 2007, so around the same time. Pretty much all the girls in Help where available. Compare to Scandallo, Help had alot better mix a females. All shapes and colors, Scandallo has 95% European flavor. Help was a more party, club vibe than Scandallo at least to me. Scandallo is bigger in size than Help, but Help was big for club.

  15. #7563

    Hotel

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordico  [View Original Post]
    Thank You for your kind words and for your great detailed report. Lots of valuable information, specially for the clubs. I might have missed the name of the hotel you stayed in, will reread later when I have more time. If not, please let me know.

    For the information of the members who hasn't visited Brooklin yet, the rooms upstairs are better because they have beds and not mattresses.
    The hotel was the Mercure Sao Paulo Privilege. Although I liked Moema well enough in general, I did not like that hotel and would not stay there again. The one problem that I found with Moema was that there just weren't that many hotels located there, especially perfectly placed like the Sao Paulo Privilege is. At least not presented on the sites I looked at when planning to book a room. So, there's a bit of a dilemma. I like Moema (close to many, many clinicas including Miruna) but where to stay? I just might pick some other part of town next time. Maybe a nice place closer to Scandallo LOL!

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