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  1. #7875
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    He paid 150 entrada that he thought was for consumacao. He consumed 350, of which 150 should have been covered by the entrada. Instead they charged him 350 for the consumacao, so basically they charge 150 to enter plus consumacao. Adding the 150 entrada to the bill and then deducting it from the bill is the equivalent of getting no consumacao for your 150 paid entrada.
    Hold on. I did not initially read his post as indicating that he paid the 150 entrada upon arrival. And then paid 350 at exit. Lets ask him to clarify, thus totaling 500. If so, then indeed he was clearly ripped off (assuming the entrada was advertised as with consumacao, which is the case before 19:00).

    I read him as complaining that he paid nothing on entrance, assumed he had 150 in credit, racked up 350 in consumption, was charged 350 upon exit, but was chagrined be / see he expected to pay only 200. I assumed this be / see when I went they did not ask for any money up front upon arrival. Just presented my identification and received the "comanda", the card to present to waiters, that tracks purchases. My only payment was made at exit.

    Kcrl01 can you clarify what actually happened?

  2. #7874
    Quote Originally Posted by Kcrl01  [View Original Post]
    Haven't been to Miami for other than a flight change in about 20 yrs, but aren't hookers illegal there?
    Exactly, that is why I consider the comparison absurd.

  3. #7873
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    He paid 150 entrada that he thought was for consumacao. He consumed 350, of which 150 should have been covered by the entrada. Instead they charged him 350 for the consumacao, so basically they charge 150 to enter plus consumacao. Adding the 150 entrada to the bill and then deducting it from the bill is the equivalent of getting no consumacao for your 150 paid entrada.
    Exactly!

    He got screwed, and not in the good way, LOL.

  4. #7872

    Ditto:

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    He paid 150 entrada that he thought was for consumacao. He consumed 350, of which 150 should have been covered by the entrada. Instead they charged him 350 for the consumacao, so basically they charge 150 to enter plus consumacao. Adding the 150 entrada to the bill and then deducting it from the bill is the equivalent of getting no consumacao for your 150 paid entrada.
    Exactly what I said!

  5. #7871
    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    In my experience "entrada com consumacao" is always the same thing. You owe the house the value of the entrada no matter what. If the entrada was 150, you owe them at least 150. If you consume nothing, you pay them 150. If you consume anything < 150 you still owe them 150. If you consume more then 150, you owe them the value of what you consumed.

    The "savings" of the consumacao is relative to places that charge an entrada without consumacao. In your case if you had consumed the same amount at a place where the entrada was 150 without consumacao, you would have paid 150 (entrada) + 340 (what you consumed) = 490.

    Hope that helps.
    He paid 150 entrada that he thought was for consumacao. He consumed 350, of which 150 should have been covered by the entrada. Instead they charged him 350 for the consumacao, so basically they charge 150 to enter plus consumacao. Adding the 150 entrada to the bill and then deducting it from the bill is the equivalent of getting no consumacao for your 150 paid entrada.

  6. #7870

    One question

    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    And the girls are all available for full service? Otherwise I don't consider the comparison valid.
    Haven't been to Miami for other than a flight change in about 20 yrs, but aren't hookers illegal there?

  7. #7869
    Quote Originally Posted by PDawg23  [View Original Post]
    but in Miami there's a few places you can get a pick from 100 girls but probably not better than Scandallo. Maybe tootsie's is pretty close when it comes to talent and variety.
    And the girls are all available for full service? Otherwise I don't consider the comparison valid.

  8. #7868
    Quote Originally Posted by Kcrl01  [View Original Post]
    My logic was as you consume these items are deducted from your consumacao, once it's exhausted, the charges begin to accrue. Not on this fucking planet! Their methods, your consumaco is added to your tab and then deducted.
    In my experience "entrada com consumacao" is always the same thing. You owe the house the value of the entrada no matter what. If the entrada was 150, you owe them at least 150. If you consume nothing, you pay them 150. If you consume anything < 150 you still owe them 150. If you consume more then 150, you owe them the value of what you consumed.

    The "savings" of the consumacao is relative to places that charge an entrada without consumacao. In your case if you had consumed the same amount at a place where the entrada was 150 without consumacao, you would have paid 150 (entrada) + 340 (what you consumed) = 490.

    Hope that helps.

  9. #7867

    Finally got my Happy ass to Scandallo O Mystical secrets of Brasilero accounting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    Went to Scandalo Tuesday night Jan 24, eve of a state holiday.

    Enter before 7 pm pay 150 entrance but all is consumacao (credit for food / drink).

    Enter after 7 pm pay 222 (or 250, don't recall) 150 in consumacao.

    Arrived early, used up my 150 in the restaurant. Excellent menu, a good value for consumacao I ordered sushi mix and chicken tenders. I should have just ordered 1 dish instead of 2, as the portions were very generous and I was satisfied after the sushi and the chicken was sufficient for 2 people. Live and learn. Drinks are expensive, even a simple beer is 35 reais, soft drinks 20. Mixed drinks 50 or 60.

    Number and quality of girls: impressive. By 6:30 there were already 50 girls lounging in restaurant and cafe. Bar / disco area does not open until 9:00.
    Finally got to Scandallo last night. Got there at around 1845 h paid the Brl $ 150,00 consumacao. After 1900 h it's Brl $220. Had the house sushi at Brl $65, a Bud at Brl $35, a "dry" martini at Brl $ 70,00 and a MonteCristo #2 ring at Brl $170,00. Was taken aback when I had to cash out at Brl $350,00 when I left. According to my calculations my bill should have been Brl $ 200. My logic was as you consume these items are deducted from your consumacao, once it's exhausted, the charges begin to accrue. Not on this fucking planet! Their methods, your consumaco is added to your tab and then deducted. Brasiliero accounting methods, if the girls don't fuck you the house is guaranteed to. IMHO the Brl $ 150,00 consumacao is only a savings if you bounce against the marginal cost incurred by the Brl $220,00 ingresso and consumacao after 1900 h. IMHO, curious as to feedback on this issue. Argued with cashier chick to no avail got weird looks from people standing close by. Always happens when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me! .

    The sushi was OK, have paid more for a brewski in Sampa (would it kill these guys to add Heineken to the beer card? About the only thing I have issues with in Brasil is their corn beer. Cavemen brewed better beer), the Cuban was excellent. Only way to top that cigar would be smoking one in Havana. Kicker was the "dry" martini. My Aunt Sheila served drier martinis to her Tuesday afternoon church sewing circle & bible study group. Since I got there kinda' early sat watching the talent filter in. Reminded me of batting practice before a MLB game. But it was fun to watch. Not really the variety your find in Rio, but to quote The Cane, there was "critical mass. " All in all, these women were fucking gorgeous, tits, ass, thick thighs, wearing all types of smell good, smiling ear to ear and drop dead gorgeous faces. Except this one chick, I think it was a tranny, chick was all swoll' up and her voice was deeper than mine. She kinda' cozied up me being the FNG. * scared the fuck out of me when she spoke. Kindly asked her to "hoppa fora, por favor," at which point I feared for my life with the look she gave me.

    The girls were chatty and friendly, was copping feels like a blind man reading a NYT best seller in braille and he can't wait to get the end. Stole a play from the Tangelo Twitter Tango and "just grabbed them by the pussy. " Humorous part of the evening was having to explain to this blonde from Porto Alegre that Canada was not part of the USA. Blondes, same the world over I suppose. The girls could spot the FNG and the attention was rather flattering. Someone said there were 6 or 7 floors, tonight only the first floor was open. The snack bar and the restaurant. The snack bar was dark as fuck, I mean bottom of the abyss staring back at you dark. Sat outside on the patio smoking my Cuban trying hard to enjoy my "martini. " Specifically requested "shaken, not stirred" . " It rained for a minute but I was sitting at a sheltered patio table for four with three empty chairs. The hits kept rolling in, talked for few, they'd give me kiss and leave. What was cool was they were not all hard sell desperate, this was refreshing. As I've been some places where these chicks are like piranha with the scent of fresh meat in the agua.

    Left around 0200 h stole a play from the Rovnak playbook, went to Casarao with visions of Scandallo dancing in my head. Interesting note on the cab ride, the cabbie entered the time I got in and the time I got out of his cab in a sheet of paper clearly marked Scandallo. Figured he probably gets some incentive from management for dropping guys off there. Good to know if you're ever on a jam with the Policia Civil and need an alibi (sorry, wearing my lawyer hat). Checking my horario for the next time I have a free day with no clients and will certainly swing back by. Didn't get any phone numbers, cell battery was dead.

    One more thing, what up with these guys who bring their GFs to this place. Just like people who pay extra cash to wipe their ass with Charmin and it's twice the price of regular shit paper. I just don't get it!

  10. #7866
    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    Going to Romanza indicates you don't know SP at all so not surprised that you are not impressed. Boates are best Tue-Thursday. Saturday is the worst, far from best of the best. That must be a Miami thing. So there are places in Miami where you legally pick from over a 100 girls. Interesting.
    LOL Romanza. Yeah it was probably his first visit to SP, but in Miami there's a few places you can get a pick from 100 girls but probably not better than Scandallo. Maybe tootsie's is pretty close when it comes to talent and variety.

  11. #7865
    Quote Originally Posted by DZone  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like Scandalo is like Bahamas used to be back in the 2000's. In 2014 I had a girl at Mirunas who was stunning. Blonde bahiana who had a Sofia Vergara look (but prettier IMO). And she was completa. Came back a few months later and tried to connect with her outside but she said she was going to Scandalo because it was F1 week. I know the F1 guys used to go to Bahamas back in the day so I figured Scandalo was the place with the best looking talent. I never made it there myself. When I am in Brazil clinicas fit my schedule better and the cost benefit is unbeatable IMO. It's true it can be hit or miss, but checking GPguia you can see which performers are showing up and which ones give good performances. Helped me a lot last time around.
    Scandalo is huge. Its 6 or 7 floors. The club area is big, the restaurant is big they even have a nice size patio part. The rooms very roomy and very nice.

  12. #7864
    Quote Originally Posted by JakePeacock  [View Original Post]
    Scandalo wouldn't hold a candle in Miami. Went on Saturday which should have the best of the best. Unfortunately most were probably mid late 20's, thick and slightly unmotivated. Had one good one but meh, charged a lot of money for not much.

    Don't go to Romanza, they held my hostage for 2 hours trying to charge for champagne, had to call the police and shit. Very lame.

    Overall not impressed by SP, maybe need to visit other places, maybe Rio is better.
    Forget going to Rio, I heard MIAMI was the best!

  13. #7863

    Funny you should mention that

    Quote Originally Posted by JakePeacock  [View Original Post]
    Don't go to Romanza, they held my hostage for 2 hours trying to charge for champagne, had to call the police and shit. Very lame...
    Stopped by Romanza last Thursday, was in the process of paying the Brl $ 130,00 cover and a little voice told me, "nah fuck this place, the vibe is all wrong. " So I left, before I got out the door the greasy looking guy in the black suit with the Cardinal Richelieu beard had dropped the cover to Brl $50,00 as a "special discount" just for me. Have a light day Wednesday, so I think I might give Scandallo's a shot Tuesday night.

    What I've found appealing about Sao Paulo is the abundance and availability of smoking hot non-Pros. Assuming you speak Portuguese and are cultural chameleon enough to date like a Brasiliero. I've been working in SP for almost two years and have always had a steady non-pro GF and a back-up or two on the side. Upside of dating a Brasiliera, they expect you to cheat, just don't throw it in their faces. There so much fine ass walking up and down Avenida Paulista from 0600 h - 2100 h, I heard the Prefeito is considering changing the name to Avenida Assmania!

  14. #7862
    Quote Originally Posted by JakePeacock  [View Original Post]
    Scandalo wouldn't hold a candle in Miami. Went on Saturday which should have the best of the best. Unfortunately most were probably mid late 20's, thick and slightly unmotivated. Had one good one but meh, charged a lot of money for not much.

    Don't go to Romanza, they held my hostage for 2 hours trying to charge for champagne, had to call the police and shit. Very lame.

    Overall not impressed by SP, maybe need to visit other places, maybe Rio is better.
    Going to Romanza indicates you don't know SP at all so not surprised that you are not impressed. Boates are best Tue-Thursday. Saturday is the worst, far from best of the best. That must be a Miami thing. So there are places in Miami where you legally pick from over a 100 girls. Interesting.

  15. #7861

    Sp

    Scandalo wouldn't hold a candle in Miami. Went on Saturday which should have the best of the best. Unfortunately most were probably mid late 20's, thick and slightly unmotivated. Had one good one but meh, charged a lot of money for not much.

    Don't go to Romanza, they held my hostage for 2 hours trying to charge for champagne, had to call the police and shit. Very lame.

    Overall not impressed by SP, maybe need to visit other places, maybe Rio is better.

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