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  1. #11059
    Quote Originally Posted by Radar99  [View Original Post]
    There is enough substantial infection rates in US and other top 7 infected counties, firstly. Please read news updates to get the numbers. Secondly the concept of herd immunity is futile without a proper vaccine or a drug to stop the spread. Third looking at the economic conditions of many countries and the extra burden on healthcare facilities, I hardly think people would be willing to sacrifice themselves and get infected willingly without having a guarantee to their lives. If this was not a human to human infectious disease which spreads much faster than any other which we have known in the last 100 years, I would have thought for a second about herd immunity, but not anymore.
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  2. #11058
    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedToys  [View Original Post]
    So, all of your arguments against her immunity are based on a situation with no substantial infection rate. So. There is NO herd immunity in place to study on this to begin with, so therefore herd immunity doesn't work.

    I get that right?

    "People used to say the same thing about herd immunity in US and UK".

    We still do, where it's relevant.
    There is enough substantial infection rates in US and other top 7 infected counties, firstly. Please read news updates to get the numbers. Secondly the concept of herd immunity is futile without a proper vaccine or a drug to stop the spread. Third looking at the economic conditions of many countries and the extra burden on healthcare facilities, I hardly think people would be willing to sacrifice themselves and get infected willingly without having a guarantee to their lives. If this was not a human to human infectious disease which spreads much faster than any other which we have known in the last 100 years, I would have thought for a second about herd immunity, but not anymore.

  3. #11057
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Just a personal plea. The German FKK thread was absolutely ruined by becoming the Covid 19 bickering thread. Let's not ruin So Paulo too! How about we talk about girls and sex?
    I agree. Let's not make this the bickering thread. Por favor!

  4. #11056

    Please Focus

    Just a personal plea. The German FKK thread was absolutely ruined by becoming the Covid 19 bickering thread. Let's not ruin São Paulo too! How about we talk about girls and sex?

  5. #11055
    Quote Originally Posted by Radar99  [View Original Post]
    People used to say the same thing about herd immunity in US and UK, and the situation is right in front of our eyes. And on top of that there is very little or no knowledge about how this virus behaves till now. It's not a typical virus which spreads like HIV or SARs. Herd immunity concept won't work as we have seen cases where even younger people are succumbing to this shit. And to be very frank, you can't have a case where you are going for herd immunity without flooding hospital, that's impossible.
    So, all of your arguments against her immunity are based on a situation with no substantial infection rate. So. There is NO herd immunity in place to study on this to begin with, so therefore herd immunity doesn't work.

    I get that right?

    "People used to say the same thing about herd immunity in US and UK".

    We still do, where it's relevant.

  6. #11054
    Quote Originally Posted by Mangera  [View Original Post]
    Many people would probably agree with your statement. As far as I am concerned, "nobody" = Media.
    Blaming media for your fellow mans ignorance, is dangerous.

    Media isn't the problem. Its the solution ignorant people want.

  7. #11053
    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedToys  [View Original Post]
    Does it matter?

    Everyone is going to get it in time, you die or you won't.

    IMHO, finding the -fastest- way to herd immunity without flooding over the hospitals is the best course, but nobody will talk about it.

    Odds are against a vaccine, we've had a century to figure out the Spanish Flu. We haven't. This is the nature of things.
    Natural selection survival of the fittest you mean. Unfortunately, healthy young people get seriously sick also. Herd immunity depends on the composition of the population and controlling infection to only certain populations. In the end, no one wants to be infected intentionally.

    The major problem with the covid vaccine is that there are no long term testing done, like 10 years worth so who knows how good / bad it is. Either way, I'll get it and see what happens.

  8. #11052
    Quote Originally Posted by Radar99  [View Original Post]
    Antibody development can't be seen as a perfect cure for this shit. Immunity depends on various other factors too.
    You're right, antibody convalescent plasma therapy infusion from recovered patients is not 100% cure.

  9. #11051

    "Nobody"

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedToys  [View Original Post]
    Does it matter?

    Everyone is going to get it in time, you die or you won't.

    IMHO, finding the -fastest- way to herd immunity without flooding over the hospitals is the best course, but nobody will talk about it.

    Odds are against a vaccine, we've had a century to figure out the Spanish Flu. We haven't. This is the nature of things.
    Many people would probably agree with your statement. As far as I am concerned, "nobody" = Media.

  10. #11050
    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbying  [View Original Post]
    The health minister on the job for 1 month resigned today. They will open Brasil again because they cannot afford not to for foreigners but who will be willing to go?

    Even if someone has antibodies, there's no guarantee the person is immune.
    Antibody development can't be seen as a perfect cure for this shit. Immunity depends on various other factors too.

  11. #11049
    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedToys  [View Original Post]
    Does it matter?

    Everyone is going to get it in time, you die or you won't.

    IMHO, finding the -fastest- way to herd immunity without flooding over the hospitals is the best course, but nobody will talk about it.

    Odds are against a vaccine, we've had a century to figure out the Spanish Flu. We haven't. This is the nature of things.
    People used to say the same thing about herd immunity in US and UK, and the situation is right in front of our eyes. And on top of that there is very little or no knowledge about how this virus behaves till now. It's not a typical virus which spreads like HIV or SARs. Herd immunity concept won't work as we have seen cases where even younger people are succumbing to this shit. And to be very frank, you can't have a case where you are going for herd immunity without flooding hospital, that's impossible.

  12. #11048
    Quote Originally Posted by Radar99  [View Original Post]
    I guess it's too early to even guess if that will happen. We have to wait and watch as the cases are still increasing day by day and people say it's going to become the next hotspot.
    Does it matter?

    Everyone is going to get it in time, you die or you won't.

    IMHO, finding the -fastest- way to herd immunity without flooding over the hospitals is the best course, but nobody will talk about it.

    Odds are against a vaccine, we've had a century to figure out the Spanish Flu. We haven't. This is the nature of things.

  13. #11047
    Quote Originally Posted by Radar99  [View Original Post]
    I guess it's too early to even guess if that will happen. We have to wait and watch as the cases are still increasing day by day and people say it's going to become the next hotspot.
    The health minister on the job for 1 month resigned today. They will open Brasil again because they cannot afford not to for foreigners but who will be willing to go?

    Even if someone has antibodies, there's no guarantee the person is immune.

  14. #11046
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    Will Brasil be allowing foreigners to visit by July?
    I guess it's too early to even guess if that will happen. We have to wait and watch as the cases are still increasing day by day and people say it's going to become the next hotspot.

  15. #11045
    Quote Originally Posted by ParsTiger  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the information. I'm planning on starting my trip in July assuming things continue to calm down, I have myself been tempted to bite on these airline deals but there is still too much uncertainty, I've already found a way around the airline cartels. I'm planning on flying into SP and then after a few days exploring do Sul. Certainly Curitiba and possibly Florionopolis. I have been doing much research / cross referencing on different sites: pohtoacompanhantes, skokka, gataurbana, priv55, garotaslindas and others. I will report on my finding on those provinces in those threads but I am aware of them being strictly clinicas and escorts. I also know that a week before I actually go I need to make a 'fresh' list as there is a high turnover, I found two unicorn-waifu short haired / pelo curto chics working in clinicas in Curitiba-Brasil of all places.

    I think I'll probably be most comfortable in the larger clinicas only because I can't allow myself to drink and I will be under enormous pressure to drink in the club environment.
    Will Brasil be allowing foreigners to visit by July?

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