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  1. #20811

    Pursuit of happiness. Not in USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    We have a moral hangup about prostitution and this why it is illegal. People don't like seeing girls out on streets. So many girls dress so scantily in bikni's or lingerie & standing in the middle of the streets only riles up the locals. It is only within the past 5 or 6 years that the girls started dressing like this. I can understand people that live in the neighborhoods get irritated when they act like this. My own belief is that eros centers like they have in Germany is the best solution. They are discreet & guys can still have fun at a reasonable price. The Eros centers have largely eliminated the pimps as well. As for Texas it is ridiculous that they have made prostitution a felony. Let's remember that a felony is defined as penalty that carries a sentence of 1 year or more. I seriously doubt prostitution will be legalized in the CA however.
    USA constitution says we are entitle to "pursuit of happiness" - but the religious assholes make prostitution illegal.

    Not only is prostitution illegal in San Francisco but the police actually set up stings to lure men and arrest them. I know of close friends who got nabbed by this.

    Some men should have the balls to sue prostitution laws as unconstitutional. Elliott Spitzer should do it.

  2. #20810

    The pendulum has swung too much to #metoo

    Quote Originally Posted by CocrBrotheler  [View Original Post]
    "If you approach these stuck-up women in person, they may call in the sheriff for sexual harassment and sue you in civil court for destroying their chaste lives. ".

    Exactly what I'm scared of even before the Sex Felony Law. Sometimes I get questions from family or some friends why I'm still single but only protecting myself women have so many rights and men almost always wrong in USA. I scared these days to even try and arouse/get sensual a date. Fuck it I'd rather just go to TJ and pay for it, no issues no complications no legal risks.


    If woman in U.S. completely gets her way everything Ok however if make just 1 mis-step however trivial watch out!
    I plan to donate to the men's rights club exactly because I think men no longer have much rights due to $Metoo-extremists. The politicians and like eunuchs who cave in due to their own fears.

    I bet guys are now too scared to pick up a drunk woman at a bar.

    The pendulum has swung too much to #metoo.

    Me too extremists are like terrorists.

    Tijuana works for me. And there is no club like HongKong Club.

  3. #20809
    Quote Originally Posted by ScatManDoo  [View Original Post]
    If you're only going for chicks with deep pockets, it does.
    Deep pockets are your words. I was referring to chicas being able to hold their own.

  4. #20808
    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas  [View Original Post]
    I am cognizant of a chica's resources when I date in America. Does that make me a gold digger?
    If you're only going for chicks with deep pockets, it does.

  5. #20807
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Well, I guess it's on me then since I keep picking chicks who look good, but don't have much money. LOL!
    I am cognizant of a chica's resources when I date in America. Does that make me a gold digger?

  6. #20806

    Legal Liabilities

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Cocr.

    There are so may problems and legal liabilities between the sexes that Millennials are not dating, shacking up or getting married. The main problem is US women's inflated sense of entitlements that destroys any trust or love in the relationships.

    A few of my wingmen have so much headache with their mates that they are not worth living with. It's better to go to Tijuana to flirt with hot girls, get love and sex and go home to relax to normal life.
    So true, Cap. In 2017, California passed a bill making it a crime for a man to remove a condom during sex or to engage is bare sex without.

    Verbal consent. This is now a crime under sexual battery so you can go to jail and be sued. Good luck if a girl decides to get you on this one.

    Difficult to prove but the black robes will lean toward the "victim". Condom breaking during sex is included in the bill.

    Tijuana is the way to go.

  7. #20805

    Broke

    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas  [View Original Post]
    I've had the opposite experience with American women as far back as my college days. Fiercely independent and were pay their own way kinda gals. Took a chic to Vegas during grad school and she insisted on splitting all travel expenses 50/50. American women that I've dated have also taken me out to eat and paid. Women I have spent time with in Mexico and Asia have never attempted to pay for anything. It's not even alligator arms. It's just so culturally ingrained. For example, American girls have given me genuine thank yours for taking them out and footing the bill. That never happened with Asian or Mexican chicas I've dated. Of course, the guy should pay for the date is the mentally that I've experienced.
    Well, I guess it's on me then since I keep picking chicks who look good, but don't have much money. LOL!

  8. #20804
    Cocr.

    There are so may problems and legal liabilities between the sexes that Millennials are not dating, shacking up or getting married. The main problem is US women's inflated sense of entitlements that destroys any trust or love in the relationships.

    A few of my wingmen have so much headache with their mates that they are not worth living with. It's better to go to Tijuana to flirt with hot girls, get love and sex and go home to relax to normal life.

  9. #20803

    America The Failed Society

    Quote Originally Posted by CocrBrotheler  [View Original Post]
    "If you approach these stuck-up women in person, they may call in the sheriff for sexual harassment and sue you in civil court for destroying their chaste lives. ".

    Exactly what I'm scared of even before the Sex Felony Law. Sometimes I get questions from family or some friends why I'm still single but only protecting myself women have so many rights and men almost always wrong in USA. I scared these days to even try and arouse/get sensual a date. Fuck it I'd rather just go to TJ and pay for it, no issues no complications no legal risks.

    For now I have to stay and work in TX 1-3 more years then I could move wherever in the world. Would like Thailand or PI but feels so far away + I been all over Colombia and speak a decent Spanish so why not permanent base myself there for awhile? Or somewhere in Mexico. If I really itch to leave TX sooner would try to get a job in CA or back to FL. I loved some aspects of South Florida but women just as stuck up (not all if you go the local bars and night clubs). P4P in FL especially Ft. Lauderdale and Miami more overlooked by LE and certainly not a felony + if can travel freely CR and Colombia so close for long weekends!

    If woman in U.S. completely gets her way everything Ok however if make just 1 mis-step however trivial watch out!
    I've seen many men's lives ruined by false accusations from women. People say I'm too young to monger, that I should be getting it "free" and I have before but I have my reasons, the things you state being one of them. Colombia sounds like heaven from what I read on the forums. Maybe one day but for now the plan is move to Mexico, close to Tijuana and bang beautiful Mexican women. Dating in America is time consuming, risky, the women are not feminine and often greedy, way more greedy than Mexican women. The juice is not worth the squeeze in America anymore.

  10. #20802
    "If you approach these stuck-up women in person, they may call in the sheriff for sexual harassment and sue you in civil court for destroying their chaste lives. ".

    Exactly what I'm scared of even before the Sex Felony Law. Sometimes I get questions from family or some friends why I'm still single but only protecting myself women have so many rights and men almost always wrong in USA. I scared these days to even try and arouse/get sensual a date. Fuck it I'd rather just go to TJ and pay for it, no issues no complications no legal risks.

    For now I have to stay and work in TX 1-3 more years then I could move wherever in the world. Would like Thailand or PI but feels so far away + I been all over Colombia and speak a decent Spanish so why not permanent base myself there for awhile? Or somewhere in Mexico. If I really itch to leave TX sooner would try to get a job in CA or back to FL. I loved some aspects of South Florida but women just as stuck up (not all if you go the local bars and night clubs). P4P in FL especially Ft. Lauderdale and Miami more overlooked by LE and certainly not a felony + if can travel freely CR and Colombia so close for long weekends!

    If woman in U.S. completely gets her way everything Ok however if make just 1 mis-step however trivial watch out!

  11. #20801
    Quote Originally Posted by ClownDays  [View Original Post]
    I don't want to presume anything about the girl, but I have plenty of family in Mexico, and the boyfriends were never expected to help the girlfriends family financially when things got bad. They are expected to provide for her once your marry her, and possibly help the family, but you're not there.

    I will say this, her family might not actually put 2-and-2 together about her work, because it's the idealized dream of every Mexican mother that her daughter finds herself a rich guy to look after her daughter, and that might be the line she feeds when about why she goes to work at the border, in hopes of finding a solid middle-to-upper-class Norteo. Her family might intentionally have blinders on.

    Some Mexican families do put pressure on their Children to help them with money, even if they're grown ass adults not living at home, and if she's been lying about where the money comes from, she may have worked herself into a bind. I have a buddy who's mom just paid $60 k cash for a piece of land in a gated Colonia, and when I asked him where the hell she (who doesn't work) got that kind of money, he said it was from her savings of the money each of the grown kids give her each month. Family financial situations that come up are expected to be solved, whenever possible within the family- like they all pull together to figure it out. That's the cultural part. Hitting up the boyfriends for money is outside of that, unless you've made her think you've got plenty of disposable cash, and are willing to help her out with whatever she needs.

    Sorry to hear the last night was rough, but the "I need to send money back home and I'm short, can you help me out?" conversations are probably not going to stop.
    I am waiting for that request to help family to drop, but we are going to Paris for New Years as it was her "dream. " I just did it since I don't have a significant other anymore and more of a gift for her graduation from university. I put a time limit on "support" as I told her to have a normal relationship, it shouldn't involve providing "support" money and I do the same with my kids. I only support for so long and then kick them out of the nest to fly or flop. You can only help people enough so they can help themselves. If she needs continual support, then sure other guys will be lining up. We went to Coco Bongo and they picked her twice to be in the show. Some guy from Germany was trying to hit on her and so was another Mexican dude, but I don't speak Spanish and plus we are just "friends.

    She was drunk the first night and was crying asking if she was pretty and I said sure and she should know from all of the attention she received. The guy working at the club gave his contact info if she wanted a job. I joked and said she should move to Cancun and I could visit. She admitted that she is insecure and I said only you can be satisfied with your looks and don't seek out confirmation from other people. She reminds me of some chick from the mid-west that grew up in the country and comes to LA or any large city and realizes their beauty once they get so much attention. I actually prefer to be low key and behind the scenes kind of guy, but they kept pointing the camera that displays on the big screens our direction while she was dancing. Fun times!

  12. #20800
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Well, I've got news for people. American culture is the same with respect to this. I know it from direct experience! You start dating a "civvie" girl and you're going out and you're fucking her, and then she starts feeling entitled and justified in asking for a little "help" every now and then because she's giving up the pussy. This kind of thing is hardly exclusive to either Mexico or the United States. Like a buddy of mine said, it's like the value of the dick she's getting isn't worth enough! That's not an even up trade in her mind, so the guy is expected to start throwing in some "help" (money) every now and then. But oh no she's not a tute! And what if the guy needs some help and asks her for some? Oh, now all of a sudden he's a freeloader and taking advantage! I for one can say I never asked a civvie girlfriend for one red cent, and got tired of some acting like I owed them some "help" just because we were fucking. That pussy isn't gold!
    I've had the opposite experience with American women as far back as my college days. Fiercely independent and were pay their own way kinda gals. Took a chic to Vegas during grad school and she insisted on splitting all travel expenses 50/50. American women that I've dated have also taken me out to eat and paid. Women I have spent time with in Mexico and Asia have never attempted to pay for anything. It's not even alligator arms. It's just so culturally ingrained. For example, American girls have given me genuine thank yours for taking them out and footing the bill. That never happened with Asian or Mexican chicas I've dated. Of course, the guy should pay for the date is the mentally that I've experienced.

  13. #20799
    Quote Originally Posted by KoolBeans  [View Original Post]
    I wish I would have known this before my conversation with a regular on the last night in Cancun. She said it is normal and her previous boyfriends helped when they could. I told her in all of my previous relationships they never asked for a dime and also weren't materialistic. She said she wasn't either, but her previous job only covered daily living basics and if emergency occurred, then a boyfriend would help out. She tells her family I'm her boyfriend in Tijuana and that justifies her money she received while working at HK.

    I told her they should be smart enough to figure out a gringo that she just met isn't going to give her enough cash for her to get them a car and take them on vacations. She said she needs to focus on helping herself since her family hasn't provided her support since she was 17. Fucked up reality, but sure most struggle. Also she told me a story of how she was raped by an older boyfriend and had to have an abortion at 17. Really fucked me up, but sure most have their challenges their dealing with. Fun Cancun trip and feels like a dream for the first 3 days. Things got back on course the next day, but at night it felt like a bad marriage where we both sleep with our backs to each other and she played a Bruno Mars song I havent heard of that hit me hard Talking to the moon.
    I don't want to presume anything about the girl, but I have plenty of family in Mexico, and the boyfriends were never expected to help the girlfriends family financially when things got bad. They are expected to provide for her once your marry her, and possibly help the family, but you're not there.

    I will say this, her family might not actually put 2-and-2 together about her work, because it's the idealized dream of every Mexican mother that her daughter finds herself a rich guy to look after her daughter, and that might be the line she feeds when about why she goes to work at the border, in hopes of finding a solid middle-to-upper-class Norteo. Her family might intentionally have blinders on.

    Some Mexican families do put pressure on their Children to help them with money, even if they're grown ass adults not living at home, and if she's been lying about where the money comes from, she may have worked herself into a bind. I have a buddy who's mom just paid $60 k cash for a piece of land in a gated Colonia, and when I asked him where the hell she (who doesn't work) got that kind of money, he said it was from her savings of the money each of the grown kids give her each month. Family financial situations that come up are expected to be solved, whenever possible within the family- like they all pull together to figure it out. That's the cultural part. Hitting up the boyfriends for money is outside of that, unless you've made her think you've got plenty of disposable cash, and are willing to help her out with whatever she needs.

    Sorry to hear the last night was rough, but the "I need to send money back home and I'm short, can you help me out?" conversations are probably not going to stop.

  14. #20798

    Culture

    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.
    Well, I've got news for people. American culture is the same with respect to this. I know it from direct experience! You start dating a "civvie" girl and you're going out and you're fucking her, and then she starts feeling entitled and justified in asking for a little "help" every now and then because she's giving up the pussy. This kind of thing is hardly exclusive to either Mexico or the United States. Like a buddy of mine said, it's like the value of the dick she's getting isn't worth enough! That's not an even up trade in her mind, so the guy is expected to start throwing in some "help" (money) every now and then. But oh no she's not a tute! And what if the guy needs some help and asks her for some? Oh, now all of a sudden he's a freeloader and taking advantage! I for one can say I never asked a civvie girlfriend for one red cent, and got tired of some acting like I owed them some "help" just because we were fucking. That pussy isn't gold!

  15. #20797
    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.
    I wish I would have known this before my conversation with a regular on the last night in Cancun. She said it is normal and her previous boyfriends helped when they could. I told her in all of my previous relationships they never asked for a dime and also weren't materialistic. She said she wasn't either, but her previous job only covered daily living basics and if emergency occurred, then a boyfriend would help out. She tells her family I'm her boyfriend in Tijuana and that justifies her money she received while working at HK.

    I told her they should be smart enough to figure out a gringo that she just met isn't going to give her enough cash for her to get them a car and take them on vacations. She said she needs to focus on helping herself since her family hasn't provided her support since she was 17. Fucked up reality, but sure most struggle. Also she told me a story of how she was raped by an older boyfriend and had to have an abortion at 17. Really fucked me up, but sure most have their challenges their dealing with. Fun Cancun trip and feels like a dream for the first 3 days. Things got back on course the next day, but at night it felt like a bad marriage where we both sleep with our backs to each other and she played a Bruno Mars song I haven’t heard of that hit me hard “Talking to the moon.”

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