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  1. #112
    Good point OWL, I have over 3000 pics. (I had to take them off the computer altogether).

    I think the message is to know what you are doing, to pull a camcorder out at the wrong time could be the wrong time to pull a camcorder out. I guess we're erring on the side of caution for our friend.

    Now.....back tot he chicas!

    Be safe and Be Nice
    Country John

  2. #111

    Video Cameras In La Zona

    in my original post, i tried to appeal to the higher nature of human beings and the need to respect the locals, their culture, and dignity. hell, if you can't understand me, maybe you can understand what country john and others just wrote.

    i have never had a brush with the local law enforcement in 25 years of living and working in latin america....i am extremely cautious not to call attention to myself. however, i have visited a lot of jailed americans throughout latin america. pornography of any kind, videos, photos, etc., is strictly against the law in mexico and most of latin america.

    if the police pull you over, you are automatically labeled a "pervert". if they don't sodomize you, your cellmate will. god! if you only knew how hideous the legal system and jails are there. the american embassy will not bail your ass out of jail for filming what is considered pornogrpahy by locals. also, filming in tj could get your throat slit by a drug dealer, etc.

    this is not about your "right" to do something, this is not about "being a hero and getting the tape out", this is not about "sws deserve to be filmed", etc. etc. however, it is about saving your own fucking life. even if you don't give a rats ass about local customs, don't take the risk. this whole thread further confirms why we are known as the ugly americans abroad.

    m.l.



    Quote Originally Posted by country john
    to pull out a video camera and start shooting in the zona is foolhardy. sure, you might have all these "rights" but remember this grasshopper: you are not in the united states of america. you are in mexico.

    in mexico, if the cop is unsure of something, he either calls in a supervisor or takes you to the station for evaluation, whichever is more convenient for the cop. if they got you on a juicy issue, you could be there for a while and you might have to come up with some money to stay out of jail. perhaps you are not aware of how things operate in mexico, well that's just plain stupid.

    you do not have miranda rights. you have no right to privacy, no right to a speedy trial, no right to an attorney before questioning ,you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

    the place is crawling with ****s, and good luck if you have any nude pictures of anyone other than your spouse. if you have nude pics of ninas then you are severely fucked. don't worry, the cops will not play games; you're ass is gone.

    you also need to remember that there are lots of people working the streets in the zona who are wanted by law enforcement in the usa. some of the worst gang bangers who fled the usa live there. i know, i've talked to them. get them on tape and you might lose the camera and who knows what else.

    also know that many of the girls working in the alley are being watched by their boyfriends who are also hanging out there. they might not take to you video taping their girls.

    other mongers working the zona probably don't want to be in your home movies wither. they go there to have sex with young latinas. some are lawyers, some are doctors, ministers, indian chiefs etc. they don't know who you are and maybe you should be thinking about their privacy. how would you feel if you had a camera lens following you around?

    the mob might not like you filming their assets either. you better hope the cops get to you before they do, or it'll take a team of doctors to pull the camera out of your ass.

    think this is all funzies? think i am kidding? cool. do what you want. have fun, be happy and have a nice time. but being fore-warned is being fore-armed. if you don't mind bad things happening to you then you have nothing to worry about!!

    country john

  3. #110

    Taping

    Quote Originally Posted by Streetlooker
    I really see no problem with these videos there in a public place. As long as there not used for commercial purposes I really don't feel anyone needs permmission to tape something. I pretty sure most of the girls on here that have nude pics takin of them would rather NOT have them displayed for all of us to see IF given the choice.
    You really don't seem to understand. Rules and attitudes which are accepted and the norm on our side of the border are not accepted over there. Do not assume anything when playing in TJ, Ciudad Juarez, or anywhere else in Mexico. Your opinion of whether or not you need permission does not mean squat. And take it from someone who has seen the inside of a Mexican jail more than once, "You do not want to go there, nor do you want to give them a reason to take you there." I had some friends ignore all my warnings and advice what to do and what not to do years ago in Ciudad Juarez. After all of my counciling, they still ignored the basic and advanced rules, the final straw being giving the arresting officers a bit of a hard time. For their troubles, they were tossed in a swimming pool's shallow end with their legs shackled together and their hands handcuffed behind their backs. The unfortunate part was that this pool was being used as a sort of a ground level septic pit. They spent their evening standing in shit literally up to the chest and were then released minus all of their important and/or valuable belongings.

    Now, all being said, that is an extreme case. But I hope that you can understand that just because you think it should be a certain way there, because it is here in the good ole USA, it isn't necessarily so. But hey, if you want to do it anyway, don't ***** later when you get reamed.
    Last edited by Storm Rider #2; 07-24-06 at 05:35. Reason: typo

  4. #109

    Moving on...

    with that said.

    hi guys,

    i'm a new member and i want to thank everyone for their info, opinions and advice.

    i went down for my first trip on tuesday, 7/18, during the day. walked into the country and the advice i've read on this site, and a few others, couldn't have been more right on. felt like i'd been there before. (so you know, i am asian-american.) no one bothered me; except, i did get the unrequested suggestions from the taxi driver, of course. didn't want to walk all the way to the zona. hell, it's kind of a hefty little walk for an l. a. guy like myself.

    anyways, moving on. i have been to thailand once before and have enjoyed the sw scene in la for a liitle while, so i am not a all together newbie. just a horn dog, who appreciates avoiding the long wait and bullshit involved in bedding a woman. sorry if i seem to be rambling. i am just trying to put some context to my observations.

    peeked inside adelitas, and wtf. some of those chicks are seriously fuckable. i've read alot of opinions, and if a guy can't find something here, then he shouldn't be coming down in the first place. to go to mexico hell and find beauties like this was truly a gratifying experience. sure the cost isn't great compared to other countries, but for the price of a decent lap dance you can bust one in/on a cutie, who may actually be enjoying it, and not be thinking about what a nice car you may or may not drive. so wtf. i loved it.

    moving on. went to the alley and saw some nice, if not indigenious looking ladies. no prob, found nancy across and left of the hong kong bar i believe. 19 yrs old, from veracruz and have been working for about a year. 5'7ish, 100 lbs at most and really cute. went to the hotel right binhind her, paid $3 for the room and $30 for fs with cbj and multiple positions. she moved her hips well and got me to bust one pretty fast (fuck).

    went to hk after and got a nice massage from a sweet, if not older and a wee bit plumper, lady named salma, from guadalupe. $20 for half an hour and eventually gave her an extra $20 for a cbj and as tip. (says she has 3 kids, what's a guy gonna do? )

    anyways, hope you got a little something from my post. won't go into details about the other places, since this is probably the wrong forum to do so. thanks again for all the shared info and insights. i will start to write more in the various forums from now on.

    peace out.

    editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.

  5. #108

    Cameras in the Zona

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePerson
    No ones talking about rights or the difference between Mexico and the US or anywhere else by that matter. Im sure everyone here knows once we walk across the border, we are no different than anyone else, this also applies to any other country. We can be fucked for any reason, it could be our lucky day, its the chance we take and to me, well worth it.

    If someone wants to go in with a camera, good luck, we should all stop bitching about it and talk more about the SW which brought us here in the first place.
    I am talking about rights and the difference between Mexico and the USA. Not everyone knows that once they cross the border they are in a different country. The jails are full of them. If you don't think you're different than everyone else, especially in Tijuana you'd better wake up. You're right about taking the chance, but when you are in a high risk environment and at the same time behaving yourself with that level of exposure, then add to that being foolish your chances of having a negative experience are dramatically increased.

    If you posted that you were considering going into the Zona with a video camera, there would probably be an out-pouring of posts similar to the posts below, propbably from people who know a bit about it. I hardly call it bitching, it's intended to warn and caution. You need to lighten up.

    I don't want to see a mamber of this or any other board have a bad experience if I can help him avoid it. That is the intent of my post.

    Country John

  6. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by country john
    to pull out a video camera and start shooting in the zona is foolhardy. sure, you might have all these "rights" but remember this grasshopper: you are not in the united states of america. you are in mexico.

    in mexico, if the cop is unsure of something, he either calls in a supervisor or takes you to the station for evaluation, whichever is more convenient for the cop. if they got you on a juicy issue, you could be there for a while and you might have to come up with some money to stay out of jail. perhaps you are not aware of how things operate in mexico, well that's just plain stupid.

    you do not have miranda rights. you have no right to privacy, no right to a speedy trial, no right to an attorney before questioning ,you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

    the place is crawling with ****s, and good luck if you have any nude pictures of anyone other than your spouse. if you have nude pics of ninas then you are severely fucked. don't worry, the cops will not play games; you're ass is gone.

    you also need to remember that there are lots of people working the streets in the zona who are wanted by law enforcement in the usa. some of the worst gang bangers who fled the usa live there. i know, i've talked to them. get them on tape and you might lose the camera and who knows what else.

    also know that many of the girls working in the alley are being watched by their boyfriends who are also hanging out there. they might not take to you video taping their girls.

    other mongers working the zona probably don't want to be in your home movies wither. they go there to have sex with young latinas. some are lawyers, some are doctors, ministers, indian chiefs etc. they don't know who you are and maybe you should be thinking about their privacy. how would you feel if you had a camera lens following you around?

    the mob might not like you filming their assets either. you better hope the cops get to you before they do, or it'll take a team of doctors to pull the camera out of your ass.

    think this is all funzies? think i am kidding? cool. do what you want. have fun, be happy and have a nice time. but being fore-warned is being fore-armed. if you don't mind bad things happening to you then you have nothing to worry about!!

    country john
    no ones talking about rights or the difference between mexico and the us or anywhere else by that matter. im sure everyone here knows once we walk across the border, we are no different than anyone else, this also applies to any other country. we can be fucked for any reason, it could be our lucky day, its the chance we take and to me, well worth it.

    if someone wants to go in with a camera, good luck, we should all stop bitching about it and talk more about the sw which brought us here in the first place.

  7. #106

    Latin Luver -

    Quote Originally Posted by Latin Luver
    Hi everyone. Im in San Diego on business in the next 2 weeks with alot of free time. I am hoping for some pointers as to what to do. Ill be driving to parking lot right before the border and then taking a cab str8 to Adelitas. After sampling the fun there, I was wondering where is this famous "Alley"? Do I exit out of the front of Adelitas and be on the "Alley"? or do i have to go through a back entrance? Im looking for an allnighter with a SG. Any tips? Where to find a young, thin SG and then where to go? I am filipino american FYI. Any advice would be appreciated. I will report back with all the fun.
    Two suggestions for you:

    1. For general info, read Brockton O'Toole's FAQ, if you haven't already. Its a thread in the Tijuana section this forum.

    2. As for all nighters/GFE, here's a post you might want to check out: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=609 Others have also written about Todos al Noche - they are available but you've got to invest some time and $$.

    Have a great trip!

    Bend It

  8. #105

    Filming in the Zona

    to pull out a video camera and start shooting in the zona is foolhardy. sure, you might have all these "rights" but remember this grasshopper: you are not in the united states of america. you are in mexico.

    in mexico, if the cop is unsure of something, he either calls in a supervisor or takes you to the station for evaluation, whichever is more convenient for the cop. if they got you on a juicy issue, you could be there for a while and you might have to come up with some money to stay out of jail. perhaps you are not aware of how things operate in mexico, well that's just plain stupid.

    you do not have miranda rights. you have no right to privacy, no right to a speedy trial, no right to an attorney before questioning ,you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

    the place is crawling with ****s, and good luck if you have any nude pictures of anyone other than your spouse. if you have nude pics of ninas then you are severely fucked. don't worry, the cops will not play games; you're ass is gone.

    you also need to remember that there are lots of people working the streets in the zona who are wanted by law enforcement in the usa. some of the worst gang bangers who fled the usa live there. i know, i've talked to them. get them on tape and you might lose the camera and who knows what else.

    also know that many of the girls working in the alley are being watched by their boyfriends who are also hanging out there. they might not take to you video taping their girls.

    other mongers working the zona probably don't want to be in your home movies wither. they go there to have sex with young latinas. some are lawyers, some are doctors, ministers, indian chiefs etc. they don't know who you are and maybe you should be thinking about their privacy. how would you feel if you had a camera lens following you around?

    the mob might not like you filming their assets either. you better hope the cops get to you before they do, or it'll take a team of doctors to pull the camera out of your ass.

    think this is all funzies? think i am kidding? cool. do what you want. have fun, be happy and have a nice time. but being fore-warned is being fore-armed. if you don't mind bad things happening to you then you have nothing to worry about!!

    country john
    Last edited by Country John; 07-20-06 at 17:18. Reason: to add more english words

  9. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Munch Lunch
    I appreciate that fact that you were trying to help all of us forum members by filming and posting the videos. It seems like a cool idea. However, having lived and worked in Latin America, including Mexico, for 25 years I can tell you taking these videos is surely offensive to the majority of the girls and other strangers in the videos. There are two reasons: 1) many Latin Americans believe that you capture part of their soul with a camera or video, and 2) all these working girls have family and friends somewhere, most likely in another part of the country. They would not like knowing what they do for a living. While there are not likely many Mexicans using this board, and the girls identities will not likely be found out "back home", the girls are embarassed and shamed.

    I have never taken pictures or videos of anyone without their permission. It would not be consistent with with their wishes, culture or belief system. These girls are just trying to make a living; most likely to support their children or loved ones. I belive you should take down the videos or go ask the girls if it is OK to post them.

    My guess is that you have never lived in Latin America, don't speak much Spanish, nor know much about that culture. If you did, you would just sit down and cry about what you have done. Even though these are SW's they have their pride, dignity, and even modesty. Have the decency to maintain what little they have.

    Well, enough said. I fully expect to get completly "flammed" on this forum. But there is something to be said for being a gentleman and a monger.

    M.L.
    Stop making such a big deal about. The video was good. The guy took a chance with a camera and it paid off. Dont start crying indicating he had no right or its wrong. I applaud the risk taken by the dude who took the video, you have more balls than I ever would.

  10. #103

    Alley

    Quote Originally Posted by Latin Luver
    Hi everyone. Im in San Diego on business in the next 2 weeks with alot of free time. I am hoping for some pointers as to what to do. Ill be driving to parking lot right before the border and then taking a cab str8 to Adelitas. After sampling the fun there, I was wondering where is this famous "Alley"? Do I exit out of the front of Adelitas and be on the "Alley"? or do i have to go through a back entrance? Im looking for an allnighter with a SG. Any tips? Where to find a young, thin SG and then where to go? I am filipino american FYI. Any advice would be appreciated. I will report back with all the fun.
    If you come out of Adelita's, you make either a right or left and it is the street parallel behind Adelita's. Can't miss it because all the street girls will be tugging on your shirt. I think it will be pretty hard to find a SG for all nighter and get good service. Most charge 20 bucks for fifteen minutes. You are better off at Adelita's or Chicago Club finding a girl and getting her phone number to hook up either after work or on her day off. Good luck.

  11. #102

    FAT and UGLY

    I can say I never have had a fat ugly girl with a good heart so I guess I would not like TJ all that much . I hope like hell I NEVER find myself in the arms of one either.

  12. #101
    I've been living in TJ for almost 20 (twenty) years. Besides a wrong turn ticket and a small car accident, I cannot recall more problems.

    TJ is like a fat and ugly woman... but with a lovely and sincere heart. You just cannot forget her and will return to her arms soon.

    Many times a beautiful and perfect chick (call it city or country) can be a horrible nightmare.

    You will have problems in TJ if you look for it. I am sure about it. Just walk on the sidewalk and will be safe.

  13. #100

    1st timer in Tijuana ...

    Hi everyone. Im in San Diego on business in the next 2 weeks with alot of free time. I am hoping for some pointers as to what to do. Ill be driving to parking lot right before the border and then taking a cab str8 to Adelitas. After sampling the fun there, I was wondering where is this famous "Alley"? Do I exit out of the front of Adelitas and be on the "Alley"? or do i have to go through a back entrance? Im looking for an allnighter with a SG. Any tips? Where to find a young, thin SG and then where to go? I am filipino american FYI. Any advice would be appreciated. I will report back with all the fun.

  14. #99
    Just behave, and use common sense, and you should be all right. I've lived in TJ for almost two years, and I haven't had any problems.

  15. #98

    Filming In The Zona

    Filming in the ZONA: What the fuck, you think you are gonna stand on your legal rights and ask for the ACLU if you get caught taking pix? This has nothing to do with what law is written on the books, most TJ cops have never SEEN a lawbook, and couldn't care less. Hell, half the JUDGES in Baja have never seen a lawbook, they just make it up as they go along.

    The only reason we are relatively safe in the ZONA is because the cops and the TJ Mafia make money in the ZONA, and they generally do not want to fuck up a good thing. In Mexico you have no "legal rights". If you annoy the cops, they will just beat the shit out of you, take your camera and your money and, if you are lucky, drop you back on the street. TJ cops are not required to wear name tags, good luck complaining. Everyone in TJ including the mayor, will think you are just a stupid gringo who got what he deserved.

    Cause enough trouble and they will take you out of town and shoot you or slip a little cocaine or a bullet in your pocket and then you get a free, well-deserved, year-long ass-fucking. You think you are safe because you are a Gringo???? Wake up and smell the cafe. ROFL Gringos disappear without a trace from TJ all the time. Even the cops themselves are not safe, even judges and federal prosecutors are not safe in TJ:

    Thursday, June 22, 2006
    Police Beheadings Reflect Drug War
    The Los Angeles Times

    Tijuana, Mexico - The caller painted an ominous scene: A convoy of 40 vehicles filled with 70 heavily armed and masked men, witnesses said, was prowling the streets of Rosarito Beach. Three police officers responded to the quiet neighborhood and were quickly abducted. A day later, their mutilated bodies turned up in an empty lot.


    Nearly two dozen heavily armed gunmen in April tried to assassinate Baja California's top-ranking public safety official in a wild shootout on a Mexicali street. The attackers launched grenades and fired more than 600 rounds, wounding three bodyguards.

    Over the past year, commando-style raids have been regular occurrences in Tijuana, with convoys of masked gunmen snatching victims from restaurants and street corners in brazen daylight raids.

    Cartels also are using increasingly brutal methods to intimidate their enemies. The Rosarito Beach beheadings followed the decapitation in April of a police commander in Acapulco, whose head was found in a public plaza.

    In Baja California, the crime wave could signal an escalation of the fierce war to control the lucrative Tijuana smuggling corridor, which has been traditionally controlled by the Arellano-Felix Cartel. Several top-ranking members of the cartel have been killed or arrested in recent years, and other cartels may be sensing weakness, say experts.

    Some recent attacks were shocking for their audacity, say experts. Last month, three men armed with AK-47s stormed into an office of the Mexican Federal Attorney's office in Tijuana and shot two agents, killing one. In December, assailants attacked the Tijuana home of a state police commander, killing two of his bodyguards. In October, Tijuana's chief of homicides narrowly escaped an attack by assailants who fired more than 50 bullets at his car.

    "It's a more aggressive form of violence, with new ingredients," said Victor Clark, a border expert and director of Tijuana's Binational Center for Human Rights.

    By Richard Marosi

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