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  1. #31493
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherP  [View Original Post]
    That's about the size of it!
    Well, there is another group of folks out there, that nobody mentions. Those who's livelihood depends on the current level of tourism, the owners, managers, suppliers, and most importantly, the WORKERS in the bar, hotel, restaurant business.

    Some of them were out marching the streets in protest, a couple nights ago! They need their jobs to support their families now, not at some future time when the "family tourism" business is supposed to kick in!

    Mayor Ilana is a politician, above all, and she has to give these folks some real answers, if she's to be re-elected!

  2. #31492

    Very well stated

    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    Different groups for the Sue. IMO.

    1. These are the people that say they're tired of the Sue having a bad name. They wanted to have a good standing reputation. They want to end a prostitution in the area. They want it to be a well-known family Destiination or anything other than sex tourism. They believe they can stop prostitution in the area. They feel business in the Sue will not skip a beat or continue with minimal repercussions. They include Politicians seeking election or reelection and the majority of voting citizens. They have enough influence to recruit the local police and military on their team.

    2. These are the people looking to relocate the action. They understand that they cannot stop prostitution but profit big from it being relocated. They see major profits from land being sold and developed from the new location. It's all about the numbers to them and they have Allied themselves with group 1 because they want change of the old Sosua.

    3. These are the people that already have an interest the old location. To them, the cops arresting the SW is no good. They want the harassment to stop and let things continue. They are current business owners and their employees. Haitians and Dominicans that hustle in the area, The Minority of voting citizens, and a large majority of its regular tourists.
    That's about the size of it!

  3. #31491
    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    Different groups for the Sue. IMO.

    1. These are the people that say they're tired of the Sue having a bad name. They wanted to have a good standing reputation. They want to end a prostitution in the area. They want it to be a well-known family Destiination or anything other than sex tourism. They believe they can stop prostitution in the area. They feel business in the Sue will not skip a beat or continue with minimal repercussions. They include Politicians seeking election or reelection and the majority of voting citizens. They have enough influence to recruit the local police and military on their team.

    2. These are the people looking to relocate the action. They understand that they cannot stop prostitution but profit big from it being relocated. They see major profits from land being sold and developed from the new location. It's all about the numbers to them and they have Allied themselves with group 1 because they want change of the old Sosua.

    3. These are the people that already have an interest the old location. To them, the cops arresting the SW is no good. They want the harassment to stop and let things continue. They are current business owners and their employees. Haitians and Dominicans that hustle in the area, The Minority of voting citizens, and a large majority of its regular tourists.
    Group 1.5%of Sue-Rich and Elite.

    Group 2. 10% of Sue-Working class.

    Group 3. 85% of Sue-Hungry class.

  4. #31490
    Different groups for the Sue. IMO.

    1. These are the people that say they're tired of the Sue having a bad name. They wanted to have a good standing reputation. They want to end a prostitution in the area. They want it to be a well-known family Destiination or anything other than sex tourism. They believe they can stop prostitution in the area. They feel business in the Sue will not skip a beat or continue with minimal repercussions. They include Politicians seeking election or reelection and the majority of voting citizens. They have enough influence to recruit the local police and military on their team.

    2. These are the people looking to relocate the action. They understand that they cannot stop prostitution but profit big from it being relocated. They see major profits from land being sold and developed from the new location. It's all about the numbers to them and they have Allied themselves with group 1 because they want change of the old Sosua.

    3. These are the people that already have an interest the old location. To them, the cops arresting the SW is no good. They want the harassment to stop and let things continue. They are current business owners and their employees. Haitians and Dominicans that hustle in the area, The Minority of voting citizens, and a large majority of its regular tourists.

  5. #31489

    Rumba

    Rumor is Rumbas will reopen in the old Mouri mai location, which is across from the casino. Interesting. No word on what will happen to the old location or what the new rules will be. Stay tuned!

  6. #31488
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherP  [View Original Post]
    We'll see how the election goes. But I think Santo Domingo is making it clear they don't want a visible, attention attracting scene in sosua. They video dudes are shooting themselves in the foot.

    I figured rumba, chez real and merengue would be allowed to reopen at some point because they have kitchens. But I'm sure there will be new rules tha soont will be strictly enforced. Like Oak said, this really doesn't effect expats and vets, it hits the weekend warriors kinda hard. Looking forward to my next trip. No worries!
    Rumba will reopen, soon! That's a Dominican "soon"! Lol.

    I can't speak for the rest of the world, but in the U.K and Canada, at least, where I have family, Sosua has a reputation far out of proportion to it's lowly status as a small pueblo beach town. My main buddy was banned from visiting me by his wife and kids! I now tell folks I'm in PP.

    A reputation passed on by thousands of sex tourists who come to Sosua every year and go back to share stories of their sexual escapades. They also come here from Canada like me, the USA, Germany, Holland and Scandinavia, and keep coming back. Cheap available and legal pussy always has a market, even for Europeans!

    Also by newspaper "exposes" about the so called problems the Dominican Republic has with underage prostitution and sex tourists.

    It's not the youtube videos, it's more like a bar with a bad rep. No matter how much a series of new owners spend to tart it up, it always fails, unless they tear down the building entirely.

    It takes a generation to gentrify a bad zip code!

    Sosua is stuck with it's rep, for better or worse! LOL.

  7. #31487

    Disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    But the videos and facebook posts are not what gives it that reputation. How many views do these posts even have? Most people probably do not even know of the reputation. Ask MrGogo about when a known monger, BBBC, was roving all around the north coast and didn't even know Sosua existed. He was just passing the place by going from Puerto Plata to Cabarete. I didn't even know it existed until a coworker told me about it in 2006. And I had already been to Boca Chica twice.

    It is only people that are already involved in the sex tourism that are viewing these posts anyway. Hell, I am involved in it and the only time I would even see one is when someone posts it here and I click on it. The average person like my aunt is not at home mistakenly running into these posts and saying shame, shame, shame, no more than I am accidentally running into posts about heart transplants or how to take care of a ficus tree.
    We'll have to agree to disagree bruh. When the outgoing president was running for reelection he spoke of cleaning up prostitution on the north coast. Then he went further and mentioned sosua specifically. So the attitude of making change in sosua isn't a new one.

    Go on YouTube and type in sosua. A lot of videos will come up. I was sent one this morning of a dude who filmed the protest in sosua last night. A lot of videos have chicas in them. The powers that be don't want that image. All the youtube video dudes don't help. Just my opinion.

  8. #31486
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherP  [View Original Post]
    I respectfully disagree. I think Santo Domingo has been wanting to shake the sex tourism label since the outgoing president was running for reelection. The YouTube videos with chicas, Facebook posts with chicas all add to the reputation they want to shake.
    But the videos and facebook posts are not what gives it that reputation. How many views do these posts even have? Most people probably do not even know of the reputation. Ask MrGogo about when a known monger, BBBC, was roving all around the north coast and didn't even know Sosua existed. He was just passing the place by going from Puerto Plata to Cabarete. I didn't even know it existed until a coworker told me about it in 2006. And I had already been to Boca Chica twice.

    It is only people that are already involved in the sex tourism that are viewing these posts anyway. Hell, I am involved in it and the only time I would even see one is when someone posts it here and I click on it. The average person like my aunt is not at home mistakenly running into these posts and saying shame, shame, shame, no more than I am accidentally running into posts about heart transplants or how to take care of a ficus tree.

  9. #31485

    Disagree, respectfully.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I don't think the videos influence anything, there are tons of videos of action at sex destinations all over youtube yet these places continue to rock.
    It would be great if they reopened Rhumba's, my favorite of all in Sosua, it would be good to visit Sosua again.
    I respectfully disagree. I think Santo Domingo has been wanting to shake the sex tourism label since the outgoing president was running for reelection. The YouTube videos with chicas, Facebook posts with chicas all add to the reputation they want to shake. They still want our money, but they want it all quiet. Next they'll crackdown on anything with a flyer on IG or Facebook. Just my opinion. Time will tell. It really doesn't affect anyone with contacts all that much. I'll be back soon. Can't wait!

    I can't see how they can keep the restaurants closed. I think at some they will reopen, but with restrictions. Rumbas does have a good kitchen. The goat with veggies is the bomb! Peace to all!

  10. #31484
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherP  [View Original Post]
    We'll see how the election goes. But I think Santo Domingo is making it clear they don't want a visible, attention attracting scene in sosua. They video dudes are shooting themselves in the foot.

    I figured rumba, chez real and merengue would be allowed to reopen at some point because they have kitchens. But I'm sure there will be new rules that will be strictly enforced. Like Oak said, this really doesn't effect expats and vets, it hits the weekend warriors kinda hard. Looking forward to my next trip. No worries!
    I don't think the videos influence anything, there are tons of videos of action at sex destinations all over youtube yet these places continue to rock.
    It would be great if they reopened Rhumba's, my favorite of all in Sosua, it would be good to visit Sosua again.

  11. #31483

    Nope

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    It seems things got out of hand at Ahmvee.

    The cops arrested a whole bunch of chicas as they were leaving the party!

    They got to decide if they want a party scene at that end of town, or not!

    Doesn't affect us regulars and ex pats, in any way.

    Nothing really changes for us.

    I for one already got more pussy than I can handle! LOL.

    The big change to Sosua for me already happened years ago, when they closed the corner Bermuda Bar, and turned the Happy Bar batchata dancing bar into a pizza joint!

    On another note my buddy at Rumba says they are going nowhere.

    They are "negotiating" to re-open the restaurant soon!
    We'll see how the election goes. But I think Santo Domingo is making it clear they don't want a visible, attention attracting scene in sosua. They video dudes are shooting themselves in the foot.

    I figured rumba, chez real and merengue would be allowed to reopen at some point because they have kitchens. But I'm sure there will be new rules that will be strictly enforced. Like Oak said, this really doesn't effect expats and vets, it hits the weekend warriors kinda hard. Looking forward to my next trip. No worries!

  12. #31482

    Exactly

    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    Only problem is the idiots who have followed the crowd to the new scene. These dumb asses are posting videos of the bikini party on youtube!! If guys just learned to keep their fucking mouth quiet instead of having a "LOOK AT ME, I'm A BOSS" attitude, we could enjoy our endeavors for years!
    Yep. In the short time since bourbon closed I've seen way too many videos out of ahnvee. The powers that be want things quiet. I don't see things being allowed to continue. The video dudes are drawing to much attention. I'm staying out of ahnvee next trip.

  13. #31481
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    Only problem is the idiots who have followed the crowd to the new scene. These dumb asses are posting videos of the bikini party on youtube!! If guys just learned to keep their fucking mouth quiet instead of having a "LOOK AT ME, I'm A BOSS" attitude, we could enjoy our endeavors for years!
    It seems things got out of hand at Ahmvee.

    The cops arrested a whole bunch of chicas as they were leaving the party!

    They got to decide if they want a party scene at that end of town, or not!

    Doesn't affect us regulars and ex pats, in any way.

    Nothing really changes for us.

    I for one already got more pussy than I can handle! LOL.

    The big change to Sosua for me already happened years ago, when they closed the corner Bermuda Bar, and turned the Happy Bar batchata dancing bar into a pizza joint!

    On another note my buddy at Rumba says they are going nowhere.

    They are "negotiating" to re-open the restaurant soon!

  14. #31480

    Stupid is as stupid does!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    Sunday's pool party at Ahmvee was in high gear last weekend!

    At least 50 chicas in tiny bikinis twerking their stuff around the pool! Reminiscent of the good old days!

    The place was packed with guys who had no trouble locating the new party central!

    My local bars are now on the monger radar, too! Cops have laid back, too!

    It's all good!
    Only problem is the idiots who have followed the crowd to the new scene. These dumb asses are posting videos of the bikini party on youtube!! If guys just learned to keep their fucking mouth quiet instead of having a "LOOK AT ME, I'm A BOSS" attitude, we could enjoy our endeavors for years!

  15. #31479

    On with the show!

    Sunday's pool party at Ahmvee was in high gear last weekend!

    At least 50 chicas in tiny bikinis twerking their stuff around the pool! Reminiscent of the good old days!

    The place was packed with guys who had no trouble locating the new party central!

    My local bars are now on the monger radar, too! Cops have laid back, too!

    It's all good!

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