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  1. #33168
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    For us in and out guys your info is useless. *You are satisfied going to low budget casas and playing pimp daddy to *poor local girls who have the misfortune of crossing your path. Most guys here may come once or twice a year. Consequently the price the girls charge is no big deal. This forum is primarily about P4 P. Sosua provides great access to Dominican girls. You have the made the point that Sosua is not for you and that is cool. Why you contitue to down a place you do not frequent blows my mine. No one on forum wants to hear about your free pussy. I am happy paying for what I want and I am ejoying getting it. I Continue to share meals with chicas and find it enjoyable and a way to achieve mutual respect.
    I was with you except when you said playing "pimp daddy" to "poor girls" and sharing meals achieves mutual respect. Like I said I spent a year on the Island I "played pimp daddy" to a chica who drove an SUV and had a salon she literally sold herself only to get up the money for the salon and through a referral during COVID. Again whatever rate you agree on if fine, But if a chcia charged you 1000 USD you'd probably sound like Mr. E complaining how no third world hoe is worth that. Just like a monger in Vegas will tell you that he's happy to pay 1000 bucks a night for "GFE" with a stripper.

    You can share meals with a chica but that doesn't mean she respects you. The difference, the only difference between a third world hoe and an American hoe is that at least the third world hoe respects the money whether it's 1000 2000 3000 4000 or 10,000 pesos the Dominican chica is willing to be nice and smile at you to get the pesos, she's willing to fuck first and take the money on the back end, hang out, laugh at corny jokes that she doesn't understand and treat you how you want to be treated but other than that she wouldn't shit on you if she had explosive diarrhea and you were on fire.

    Again no argument from me what you pay shit I'd love to have a woman here where I can with a Dominicana's atittude instead of the entitled "I'll think about it" attitude where there's a 50 50 chance that a chick will come over for a weeks salary for an hour's worth of work. I love the DR.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trips.

  2. #33167

    Price psychology

    One thing about working girls all over the world is almost none of them see it as a profession and I'm talking about the ones who've been doing it full time for years.

    THE PRICE IS WHATEVER THEY FEEL IT SHOULD BE. (I'm not yelling I just couldn't bold the text).

    Meaning what most women do especially the one's in Sosua is they have a money jam, Rent's due, Baby needs new shoes, They see an Iphone they want and they know the quickest way to get it is to either turn on their tinder account or take a trip to sosua or both. The average two bedroom apartment in Santo Domingo este is 175 a month. So if a chica needs to make 175 then that's what she wants. If the Monger agrees to pay that great it's a win win. If the monger is a vet or an expat and knows that the same chica would jump at a monger picking her up on the el conde stroll or Tinder or tagged for 1500 pesos she might add in the cost of the bust trip accommodations and food for her (again most chicas will go to spots near the bus drop off point at the end of playa sosua or near the bust station and buy a meal for 100 to 200 pesos) and charge the monger 2000 to 2500 pesos especially in the daytime and figure she'll find a big spender who wants to pay her the first quote that she says. Again the 2000 peso monger is a win win situation because that's still 2000 more pesos than she had and she understands that there are other mongers willing to pay varying rates.

    It's all in the game, It's just like the used car salesman and the real estate broker, sometimes someone will do their research and drive a hard bargain then another dude will come in an accept the first offer thrown out there the most important thing is that the sale is made.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  3. #33166

    Do what cha like

    I've learned a lot from Mr. Gogo. He schooled me when I first came to Santo Domingo not knowing a thing and during COVID.

    I've also learned that dudes really like South Beach and even when going abroad that they still want the South Beach Las Vegas experience. One could say "why not just go to South Beach or Vegas?" I guess the answer would be they want to be in countries where if the "dimes" that they want decide that 250 USD is not enough that they can bribe their way out of jail.

    I say C'est la vie. It's your vacation and your money.

    I would say to veterans who would say "the third world is not like the america value doesn't increase with cost" You're just going to have to range out to POP on the malecon, and even out to places like Montellano. The days where a cute girl with a bill would take a quick trip to sosua to resolve the issue is dead. Sure you have so barrio girls from Santo Domingo and Santiago willing to make the trip, If you're lucky you might find a diamond in the rough campo cutie from La Union on Playa Sosua. But thinking that you're going to get a Law student from Santiago on PC or even Bailiee's? Not going to happen. There's more Vennies (and trannies) in Anhvee than there are Santo Domingo "weekend warriors".

    Really dudes are paying for the experience of being around women way better looking than the ones that they're around back home and 100 USD for 20 minutes is a small amount to pay for that.

    That being said If you're looking for the "finer things in life" and want South South Beach / Liv on Sundays King of Diamond's mondays then I suggest that you go to the Sue on a Major american holiday weekend (except chirstmas and easter) and go to the Casino.

    I also suggest that if you really want dimes that you go to the club in the W&P hotel in Santo Domingo, all of the dimes won't be available but that's where the baddest chicks on the island are consistently. #getyourweightup.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  4. #33165
    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    Only the low grade hardcore types, who have no regular client base or good referrals, hang out in public, and walk the street. And they find the guys, mostly newbies, who haven't any connections, or the time to set them up.
    Earlier this year when I began reading this board for my first trip, I always thought your posts were very informative. Sure, I'd be called a newbie as far as Sosua goes, compared to regulars, but after being there, I have to disagree with the above statement. Now, before some regulars chime in about newbies not knowing how it used to be, hold on. It doesn't take a genius to know what good service it. I already heard it from a regular when I was there. He was a good guy, but busting my balls for only going after street girls, saying they're low quality. Then, he showed me a photo on his phone of one of "his" girls, telling me, that's quality. I saw nothing special about her, and said I wouldn't pay a nickel for her. I think I hurt the poor guy's feelings. The point is, it depends on your style. I picked entirely from the street and beach while I was there, and had great girls, never rushed, and all stayed to chat for a while afterward without asking for ridiculous amounts of 3,000+ pesos. I simply told them what I would pay and that was that. Never once did I ask "how much". I enjoyed walking the streets, messing with the girls every step of the way. It was a good time, a lot of joking and laughing. I'm sure to the regulars, these street girls have a stigma, that's why they stay away. I agree there are hardcore dirtball girls on the strip, but they're easy to spot and avoid. For future newbies reading that above statement, they might get discouraged. When in reality you don't necessarily need a network or to have connections, you just need to have common sense in your selections.

  5. #33164

    You never cease to amaze me

    For us in and out guys your info is useless. *You are satisfied going to low budget casas and playing pimp daddy to *poor local girls who have the misfortune of crossing your path. Most guys here may come once or twice a year. Consequently the price the girls charge is no big deal. This forum is primarily about P4 P. Sosua provides great access to Dominican girls. You have the made the point that Sosua is not for you and that is cool. Why you contitue to down a place you do not frequent blows my mine. No one on forum wants to hear about your free pussy. I am happy paying for what I want and I am ejoying getting it. I Continue to share meals with chicas and find it enjoyable and a way to achieve mutual respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I would rather have a 10 who fucks my brains out than a 7 who is so so in bed. Come to think of it, I would rather have a bunch of better shit than a bunch of worse shit.

    You were not saying that when that hood rat was eating off your plate at the restaurant! You should have let her get full so you could get some rapport. That was a funny ass story OK.

    Of course, to try to guilt them into paying more. And regular people call the girls cueros. You think they care about that? So why would a guy care about a chick that is trying to get his money calling him cheap? Maybe you have something to prove to the hookers. If you went to the car dealer and they called you cheap, I guess you would buy the most expensive thing on the lot to show them you can afford it.

  6. #33163
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    So low balling girls will get you respect is BS. If you get a girl to accept a price she is not happy with you are getting a bad fuck. .....
    Ever see the girls the cheapie charlies say they get good service from? Normal punters would not go anywhere near them, 5's and below, end of story!

  7. #33162
    Quote Originally Posted by MadDin19  [View Original Post]
    What's the problem with you Americans? You pay a lot of money for 20 minutes of ficky ficky bullshit. You don't know anything else. It is a dream for you? Have you ever been to another country? Sorry but this whole discussion is bullshit.
    Everyone is overthinking mongering situation. Simple thing is go and have fun. One man's 10 is another man's 5. I like to spend time with a girl who I think is attractive enough to keep my dick strong. Irrespective of the agreed amount I tend to overpay if the service is good. There is no set fee.

  8. #33161

    Changes

    We all agree that Sosua has changed. We all agree that the quality of the street meat has declined. Lots of complaints that P4P is not what it used to be. Blame has been put on greedy chicas, police roundups, the mayor closing down the bars, weekend warriors, old guys taking over, young guys taking over, the list is endless.

    To me, the reasons are obvious.

    There are just as many (probably more) beautiful girls being born in the DR as ever, and a sizeable proportion of them (maybe more) look to the P4 P game, as a legal means of escaping poverty.

    What has changed is technology. Now they are connected. Online social media, WhatsApp and other instant communication sites has made it possible for hookers to communicate with their clients by smartphone.

    Now through WhatsApp, Scype, etc, they can stay in touch with their favorite clients anywhere in the World, for free!

    Back in the day, they had no such convenience, it was all cruising for customers in person, looking to meet on the beaches, bars, clubs and the street.

    The quality chicas, GFE types, who were never comfortable flashing their wares for all the Sosua public to see, or arguing that they are not full time SWs, now don't have to, so they don't.

    Only the low grade hardcore types, who have no regular client base or good referrals, hang out in public, and walk the street. And they find the guys, mostly newbies, who haven't any connections, or the time to set them up.

    This has obviously hurt the casual newbie mongering business, but the guys and gals who are connected, and have referrals, are doing good quality transactions, probably more, and better than ever.

    The game has changed, and won't ever be the same!

    I'd be surprised if those other oft mentioned sex tourist spots are not going that way too.

    Adapt.

  9. #33160
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSam2004  [View Original Post]
    Maybe some of you don't care about the money, all right. But do you care about the performance of the girl? Because let me tell you something very true that many long time mongers can confirm: The more you pay, the less the girl is going to respect you and take care of your needs.
    Slight correction: it's rather the more you OVERpay the less she's going to respect you.

    Having said that, I think the budget you set for your vacation was not realistic for Sosua. As you mentioned yourself, the girls you got for your prices weren't pretty. So what's the point flying a few thousands miles to fuck ugly women?

    I never try to negotiate the bottom with a girl. If anything, you need to be fair, too.

    I remember paying 1,000 pesos for a nice Haitian a long time ago, but she went with us because I was with a buddy, so she got 2 K total for servicing us both.

    And did I mention that it was a long time ago?

    On the other hand, I won't pay American money in a third-world country. That's ridiculous. I just won't.

    But I wouldn't mind paying 2. 5-3 K for a quality fuck. The "quality" part is a bigger problem in Sosua than their asking rates IMHO.

  10. #33159
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    I woulld rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed.
    I would rather have a 10 who fucks my brains out than a 7 who is so so in bed. Come to think of it, I would rather have a bunch of better shit than a bunch of worse shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    I try to build a repore with the girls I fuck. I treat them with respect and often like them as people.
    You were not saying that when that hood rat was eating off your plate at the restaurant! You should have let her get full so you could get some rapport. That was a funny ass story OK.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    The girls call low ballers cheapy cheapys.
    Of course, to try to guilt them into paying more. And regular people call the girls cueros. You think they care about that? So why would a guy care about a chick that is trying to get his money calling him cheap? Maybe you have something to prove to the hookers. If you went to the car dealer and they called you cheap, I guess you would buy the most expensive thing on the lot to show them you can afford it.

  11. #33158
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    I woulld rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed.
    That explains a lot.

  12. #33157

    Interesting conversation

    So low balling girls will get you respect is BS. If you get a girl to accept a price she is not happy with you are getting a bad fuck. I have been doing this for 10 years and have seen about everything. I try to build a repore with the girls I fuck. I treat them with respect and often like them as people. I remember whem 1500 was the going rate I also remember penny candy and 10 dollar Converse tennis shoes. I happen to be a Gringo so paying gringo prices does not bother me because I can aff0rd it. Us short term guys do not have time to be tight wodds waiting for the hot girls to lower there prices. There are guys who will pay them and they know it. I like attractive girls who perform. I woulld rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed. Girls respond to kindness and it does not make you weak. The girls call low ballers cheapy cheapys. There are some girls who are not nice people buit the DR has a lot girls working who are genuinely sweet. The biggest change in Sosua are the guys who are te customers. They are younger have less money and want numbers. They bust a nut and are looking for the next girl. There is nothing wrong with that but the girls have adoted to this style. For us old timers it is frustrating because we experinced the GFE days. However times change and why%ou have to learn to adapt. I have and I am still having a great time. At the end of the day yu know what you can afford to get what you want. Who cares what guy driving Kia thinks about you drivng a porche it is your money.

  13. #33156
    Quote Originally Posted by Durandpaul  [View Original Post]
    Going for lower quality is being weak, same as not negotiating to get close to the true price you can pay based on the number of days you have on the ground. First thing to do day one is to get as many numbers as possible then start negotiating. At some point you have to trust yourself that you have negotiating enough with a girl to either pass or pull the trigger. And just know that Mr Expact would get the same girl way cheaper than you because he has time on his side.
    I doubt MrE gets his P4P pussy cheaper than we who live here. Especially when you factor in his World travel budget, which is not available to most mongers.

    We get "friends with benefits", and I can't remember the last time I had to "negotiate" a price for pussy!

  14. #33155
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSam2004  [View Original Post]
    It's like you said, I can get ugly girls in my country for free. And I get pretty ones for between 40 and 70 euros. I don't need to pay a ticket, a hotel and extra expenses for quick bad sex with a girl who has an awful attitude. In other third world countries you can het very good sex with pretty girls for the whole night for less than 40 usd. That's a fact. So DR is over for me. It doesn't worth it. And the funny thing is, that you can F pretty Dominican girls in Germany in the Eros centers in Frankfurt and Berlin for 25 euros. DR is a beautiful country but tve P4P scene sucks big time.
    Maybe you should have read the Forum before you wasted your money on the trip. There's no money back guarantee here, and no Complaints Department. It's not Booking dot com, or Trip Advisor.

    A quick perusal of the posts here will tell you that mongers who expect a hot international beauty to fuck them for 1000 pesos ($20), or 1500 pesos ($25) are always disappointed, and they are the chronic complainers. It's the guys who shop for quality not price, who are the happy campers down here. Folks tend to get what they pay for. All booze is not the same, all cigars, cars, contractors, and especially all hookers are not the same.

    If a guy has game, he can fuck for free just about anywhere in the World if he wants to spend time on traditional dating, and all the bullcrap that goes with that. I've been there, done that, although apart from DR, I've never had the inclination to go to all the other monger heavens that are constantly being flogged in the Sosua Forum, for some weird reason. (Well, I might make an exception for Osaka, LOL.)

    Besides Americans and Canadians, there's a large number of Europeans who are regular visitors here. Lots of Scandinavians, Dutch and especially Germans with restaurants that cater to them. German is the second most useful language here. They have no trouble getting laid, LOL.

  15. #33154
    Quote Originally Posted by MadDin19  [View Original Post]
    What's the problem with you Americans? You pay a lot of money for 20 minutes of ficky ficky bullshit. You don't know anything else. It is a dream for you? Have you ever been to another country? Sorry but this whole discussion is bullshit.
    Unfortunately it's not the Americans my friend. Many Americans won't agree to overpay but some will. And it's the same thing with Europeans countries and rich middle east ones. Look at what happened to Pattaya. It's exactly the same thing. People don't negotiate and agree to whatever the girls are asking for. You can see it in the prices and feel it in their attitude. They are spoiled, lazy and not caring. Thank god for Africa and some countries in south America. The days of the simps are upon us.

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