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 Originally Posted by Surfer500
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Mr. E I agree with all your logic in your responses, however I am still a bit puzzled as to why all the drama occured if the the first session with her was off the charts. As far as paying the $ 7 to avoid all the confrontation, I'm assuming your speak Spanish well as I think a lot of guys would of just coughed up the money.
It actually was not $7. I made the deal for 1800. She reneged on he deal so I only gave her 1500. She said no 2500. Then later changed to I was supposed to pay her 3000. So in the end she wanted double the $35 that I gave her. $7 (300 pesos) was the difference between the original deal and what I ended up giving her for going back on the deal.
Yes everything was peachy keen at first. Like I said man she woke up the next morning and flipped the script. Just like when she told Tomjackin to get another girl for a threesome. He went through all the trouble of finding the girl and getting her to it then she backed out, wasting the other girl and Tomjackin's money and time.
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I tried to work things out fairly. I asked her to finish the job; she didn't want to. I asked for a new price on the half job; she didn't want to tell me. I'm not a rooty poot monger with his head in the clouds. I'm a seasoned vet. Every move I make is a calculated step. I don't play my hold card until your ass is reeled in hook, line, and sinker. The bottom line is that you don't step into a lion's den thinking it is a petting zoo. It could very well be kill or be killed. I don't know about you, but whether I'm the human or the lion, I plan on living to tell the story.
Dude, finish the story! LOL! SO yall are in the common area, having a mexican standoff. She wants to call the police, you could care less. And?
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All you guys are wrong!
First, me and Mr E travel the world together and are great friends, but we disagree always on methods to deal with girls. Second, I'm no save a ho but you guys are all wrong.
Lets go over it; Before that night in question the girl was said to be "Tomjackins girl and one of the finest girls in Sosua". The girls initial sex act was "one of my top 5 ever". She didn't argue when her request for a CBJ was rejected (should have been pre-negotiated). She sounds like the perfect girl so far, right? Hell she even stayed till 10 am which is unheard of in Sosua nowadays. In my opinion she went above and beyond the duty.
In my TLN experience usually you fuck at night and in the morning you get a final bang before she leaves or you go get breakfast. She is not required to wait until almost noon for you to wake up horny. Its usually about 7 or 8 am. Shit! She has kids, or somewhere to be. Its up to the guy to see the sun rising, realize he has a boner and tap her on the ass for that final fuck. She was there and he was sleeping. Its not like she woke up at 7 am demanding money so she can go. This girl was a real trooper and hung out patiently waiting to be paid. Maybe she thought he didn't want to fuck anymore, or maybe she wasn't feeling the connection. You guys are all over the girl like she is the worst Sosua has to offer but IMO the window for a morning fuck closed as the next afternoon was fastly approaching.
The boy code:
Me and Tomjackin have the same girl, we share. I was with her for two days and Tomjackin said he liked her. So when she came to hangout with us (Me, Tomjackin, Mr E) I purposely sat her next to Tomjackin, because I also wanted other options. Tomjackin spent the next two days with her and we all are good friends to this day. If Tomjackin passes me a girl its my duty to make sure I respect her so that he doesn't have some bullshit in his life because of me. Trying to [CodeWord140] on her and argue over 7 USD is not something that I would do. What will be Tomjackins motive for wanting to hook Mr E up with any of his girls in the future? Because of 7 USD Tomjacking probably won't want anymore of his girls hanging out with himself and Mr E. Now Tomjackin has to hear the story about how his friend treated this girl, from the girl. There will be tension when Mr E comes around and the girl is there. And on top of that the girl has wonder if she has lost her"walking ATM aka Tomjackin" forever. I know Sosua is a trick town but when you consider a guy your boy, there has to be pre-approval, its a respect thing. Not sure if Mr E got approved or didn't care (this only applies to regulars).
Mr E is real with who he is and makes no bones about it so you have to accept that. But I know that being our styles are so different that his girls are not for me and my girls usually are not for him.
So all of you guys that are ragging on the chica, give it a break. She went into this with a good attitude and did her best.
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 Originally Posted by Oakie
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There was a guy dying on a pedestrian crosswalk. "But, I had the right of way", he was shouting, as the truck that hit him drove off. Well, he was right, but he was dead,
I agree on that last line because it is pragmatic. Any adult that equates prostitution with a hourly wage job (or any regular job for that matter) either does not live in the real world or has an axe to grind. US is well known in the world for its position on presumed morality of a man or woman- just ask a politician. If one is not convinced, try suing the female in a US court of law for damages to see if the contract can be enforced to verify if the equivalence theory holds. The whole episode is puerile much ado about nothing!!
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Another case of DR chica reneging on a deal. A good thing you speak spanish.
Yeah, Mr. E's story is identical to my experience, even to the point that the session was awesome.
I've said this before but it seems the whole deal with Sosua putas is choreographed identically. It's as if there was some Mamasan running a training school, which they all had to pass out of before they were let on the street. "Rule 1. If your customer has a good time, hit him up for more, because he's likely to pay".
Even the requests for WU money look like they were cut and pasted. Could be from any one of them.
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 Originally Posted by Surfer500
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Mr. E I agree with all your logic in your responses, however I am still a bit puzzled as to why all the drama occured if the the first session with her was off the charts. As far as paying the $ 7 to avoid all the confrontation, I'm assuming your speak Spanish well as I think a lot of guys would of just coughed up the money.
Thats how alot of those chicas act. They are cool the first few times, then bug out. Thats just the way it is in DR. Guys tell me it something I'm doing, when it happens to other guys also.
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I woke up at 10 am and my GFE was missing from my bed. I looked over on the other bed and saw her pink phone there still being charged. Soon she came out of the bathroom fully dressed saying she was about to leave. Well I hope you have a method of detaching that pussy, because I have to hit that one more time. No she said, I have to go. Okay. So if you have to go, how much do I need to give you? You know she said. No I don't. How much do I need to give you? You know she replied once again. I got up to get 1500 pesos and handed it to her. No she said. You have to give me 2500 pesos. I started laughing. I said first of all I told you that I would give you 1800 for all night, and now you don't want to work this morning. So 1500 is all I am giving you. She asked if I wanted her to call the police. I said I don't give a fuck, call the cops. You don't know who I know around here. She called and started talking to one of her friends about the issue.
During that time I decided to watch about 30 minutes worth of shows on my computer. When she did hang up she sat on the bed waiting. For what I don't know. When I finished my shows I got up and put some clothes on and started packing my things. I started wheeling my suitcase to the door and told her that she could stay in the room if she wanted, but I was leaving. She grabbed the handle of my suitcase stopping me from moving towards the door. I told her to un-ass my suitcase. She said no, you give me my money. I said I gave you your money and I'm not giving you anymore since you didn't want to finish the job. As I dragged her and my bag closer to the door she let go then jumped in front of the door to block it. I told her to move but she refused. I said look, you can not kidnap me. Get away from the door. She grabbed the collar of my t-shirt with two hands. I told her to let me go but she would not. I grabbed both her wrists and twisted them to make her let go, then turned her around and threw her on the bed and pinned her down. I told her look, you didn't want to work this morning so I am not giving you another peso. I was able to open the door and slide out into the hall with my suitcase and backpack.
She was in hot pursuit and slapped me on the back of my head as I walked out of the bedroom. I told her first she tries to kidnap me and now she assaults me. She came into the hall and started commotion. The place where I stay is one big house, so next to my room was another room then after that is the end of the hall which opens into a common area. The lady who works there heard the commotion. I told her to get that crazy girl. The girl told the lady that I owed her money. I said no, I gave her 1500 pesos. The girl claimed that I had not given her anything and said that I am supposed to give her 2500 pesos. I said that I had given her the money in the room. She opened her purse showing the little money she had, stressing that I did not give her any money. The lady went into the room and came back with 1500 pesos. She tried to give it to the girl, but she would not accept it. The lady put the money on the table and put something on top to weigh it down because the ceiling fan was on. Tomjackin's girl then said that I was supposed to give her 3000 pesos!
By then two more guys who work there had entered the room. I started laughing heartily and went to give the lady a hug. I said see there. See how she lies. First she was telling you that I didn't give her any money and I owe her 2500 pesos. Now you find the 1500 pesos that I gave her and she wants to say that I owe her 3000. The lady agreed that the girl had gotten caught up in her lies. They asked if the cops should be called. I told them that I didn't care one way or the other, but I was not giving her any more money and promised that this would not turn out the way she thought it would. The girl said she wanted the cops to come. I went down my story for the lady and the two men telling them that when I first saw her on the strip she said she wanted 4000, then she went to 3000, then I told her I would give her 1800 for all night the next night because I was on my way to Puerto Plata. She followed me half way to the house saying why couldn't it be tonight. When I got back to the house I decided not to go to Puerto Plata because it was already 3 am. I called and told her to meet me in front of Europa. She came with me last night and we had sex and went to sleep. Now it is morning and she wants to leave without having sex again, AND wants more money.
I asked the guy who works there how much he makes a month. He said 8000 pesos. I said you make 8000 pesos per month and this crazy girl thinks I would agree to give her 2500 or 3000 pesos for 1 NIGHT? I am not stupid and I have never been a mark.
Another case of DR chica reneging on a deal. A good thing you speak spanish.
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 Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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And that is exactly why they act the way they do. For so long mongers have said it's only $7. I don't care if it is 50 cent. If you break the agreement there is no way you should be expecting full payment.
Let's put the shoe on the other foot. Say you are an hourly worker and your boss tells you he needs you to stay two more hours for free. Are you going to say what the hell, it's only 2 more hours? Or are you going to remind him that your overtime rate is time and a half? I'm going to pay what I agreed to if and only if you have fulfilled your side of the bargain.
In my eyes she should have been thinking wow I didn't even finish the job and this guy is still giving me 1500 pesos; only $7 less than if I would have completed the job. I should not gladly be paying full price (or more if she had her way) for a partial job
Can't argue with the principle.
But when I'm on vacation, I don't need to argue about a bad meal or a bad trick, I just move on, and don't go back.
Others are more vigilant, and good for them.
If I thought I could teach them a lesson that would in any way change their core behaviour, it might not be a such a waste of time, but try to school a puta?
There was a guy dying on a pedestrian crosswalk. "But, I had the right of way", he was shouting, as the truck that hit him drove off. Well, he was right, but he was dead,
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 Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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And that is exactly why they act the way they do. For so long mongers have said it's only $7. I don't care if it is 50 cent. If you break the agreement there is no way you should be expecting full payment.
Let's put the shoe on the other foot. Say you are an hourly worker and your boss tells you he needs you to stay two more hours for free. Are you going to say what the hell, it's only 2 more hours? Or are you going to remind him that your overtime rate is time and a half? I'm going to pay what I agreed to if and only if you have fulfilled your side of the bargain.
In my eyes she should have been thinking wow I didn't even finish the job and this guy is still giving me 1500 pesos; only $7 less than if I would have completed the job. I should not gladly be paying full price (or more if she had her way) for a partial job
Mr. E I agree with all your logic in your responses, however I am still a bit puzzled as to why all the drama occured if the the first session with her was off the charts. As far as paying the $ 7 to avoid all the confrontation, I'm assuming your speak Spanish well as I think a lot of guys would of just coughed up the money.
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 Originally Posted by Oakie
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Only my opinion Mr. E, but for $7 bucks, I would have avoided the confrontation and involving other people, potentially the cops, in the drama.
The same scenario happened to me my last time down there. I posted it here. She held out, I held out and because she caved first I saved a couple bucks.
But, If she didn't cave first, I was ready to give her what she asked for just to avoid the escalated drama.
And that is exactly why they act the way they do. For so long mongers have said it's only $7. I don't care if it is 50 cent. If you break the agreement there is no way you should be expecting full payment.
Let's put the shoe on the other foot. Say you are an hourly worker and your boss tells you he needs you to stay two more hours for free. Are you going to say what the hell, it's only 2 more hours? Or are you going to remind him that your overtime rate is time and a half? I'm going to pay what I agreed to if and only if you have fulfilled your side of the bargain.
In my eyes she should have been thinking wow I didn't even finish the job and this guy is still giving me 1500 pesos; only $7 less than if I would have completed the job. I should not gladly be paying full price (or more if she had her way) for a partial job
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 Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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I said before that the first session was in the top 5 that I have ever had in DR. I don't do the a la carte thing, unless it's something special that needs to be done. BJ and fucking are standard items and should not need to be discussed. Just like when you buy a car you know it's going to have an engine and 4 tires. I have never gotten a P4P chick anywhere to the room and had to beg for a BJ (even the street walkera in Tijuana); usually that is the first thing they do.
TLN is minimum 2 pops. It's obvious that I'm not going to discuss LT with a chick to fuck her one time, let her sleep the rest of the night, then get up and go home. We agreed on 1800 for TLN. When she did not want to do the morning session there was no way I was giving her the full 1800. If you took your car to get painted and went to pick it up and saw that they didn't put the clear coats on and buff it out are you going to pay the full price for the paint job? I clearly asked her twice that since she didn't want to finish the job, then how much would I need to give her. She refused to answer saying instead that I knew. So I figured 1500 would suffice. She instead wanted more than the original price for an unfinished job. There is no way to make sense out of nonsense and I'm not even trying to.
I tried to work things out fairly. I asked her to finish the job; she didn't want to. I asked for a new price on the half job; she didn't want to tell me. I'm not a rooty poot monger with his head in the clouds. I'm a seasoned vet. Every move I make is a calculated step. I don't play my hold card until your ass is reeled in hook, line, and sinker. The bottom line is that you don't step into a lion's den thinking it is a petting zoo. It could very well be kill or be killed. I don't know about you, but whether I'm the human or the lion, I plan on living to tell the story.
Only my opinion Mr. E, but for $7 bucks, I would have avoided the confrontation and involving other people, potentially the cops, in the drama.
The same scenario happened to me my last time down there. I posted it here. She held out, I held out and because she caved first I saved a couple bucks.
But, If she didn't cave first, I was ready to give her what she asked for just to avoid the escalated drama.
As to the car analogy, I'm sure you'd do a little research before you left your car with a complete idiot. LOL.
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 Originally Posted by Surfer500
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What's not clear is as to what was supposedly agreed to for 1,800 Pesos. Was it just 1,800 Pesos for TLN with no mention of how many pops, how did you arrive at giving her 1,500 Pesos? Doesn't sound like you had a good first session with her or there would not have been as much drama.
I said before that the first session was in the top 5 that I have ever had in DR. I don't do the a la carte thing, unless it's something special that needs to be done. BJ and fucking are standard items and should not need to be discussed. Just like when you buy a car you know it's going to have an engine and 4 tires. I have never gotten a P4P chick anywhere to the room and had to beg for a BJ (even the street walkera in Tijuana); usually that is the first thing they do.
TLN is minimum 2 pops. It's obvious that I'm not going to discuss LT with a chick to fuck her one time, let her sleep the rest of the night, then get up and go home. We agreed on 1800 for TLN. When she did not want to do the morning session there was no way I was giving her the full 1800. If you took your car to get painted and went to pick it up and saw that they didn't put the clear coats on and buff it out are you going to pay the full price for the paint job? I clearly asked her twice that since she didn't want to finish the job, then how much would I need to give her. She refused to answer saying instead that I knew. So I figured 1500 would suffice. She instead wanted more than the original price for an unfinished job. There is no way to make sense out of nonsense and I'm not even trying to.
I tried to work things out fairly. I asked her to finish the job; she didn't want to. I asked for a new price on the half job; she didn't want to tell me. I'm not a rooty poot monger with his head in the clouds. I'm a seasoned vet. Every move I make is a calculated step. I don't play my hold card until your ass is reeled in hook, line, and sinker. The bottom line is that you don't step into a lion's den thinking it is a petting zoo. It could very well be kill or be killed. I don't know about you, but whether I'm the human or the lion, I plan on living to tell the story.
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 Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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Tomjackin's girl then said that I was supposed to give her 3000 pesos!
Now why does she have to be MY girl?
I have many girls in the rotation, but up until April, she was one of my favorites.
When I first met her she was fresh off the bus from SD. I guess the more seasoned they get, the more pain in the ass they become; too bad.
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Sosua Doom and Gloomers!
Doom and Gloomers! Sosua is dying. Things are changing. I can't find girls. Things are different. This club closed and that club closed. We need to go to another country. The politicians are doing this the politicians are doing that. However, I keep going to Sosua and have a great time! If you going to complain why go! Stay home or go some where else and quit whining! Or maybe the administrators should create a Sosua whiny / bitching board, and all you doom and bloomers can go there and whine to each other!
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 Originally Posted by BadBear2000
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In Sosua this week, learned the government is moving closer to turning it into a ghost town trying to change it to a family town. How stupid! They have closed the houses, threatening to closing the clubs that cater to the girls, and harrassing the girls on the street. They killed most of the foreign owned phones in the DR and are asking the people to come and re-register. Do not put it past the USA to have tracking and listening devices puton your phone so they can monitor you while you are here. This government is so stupid. American men will not waste airfare on their entire family flying to the beaches of the DR when they can drive to Miami. I noticed less eye candy at the beach and many businesses closing so I think the ghost town has already started. This will never happen in Haiti. The NGOs and do gooders tried after the earth quake but have had no success. Many are starting to leave.
HAITI! While I love some dark skin chicas. I wouldn't ever consider making that move! Some of us mongers like the freedom of roaming. Haiti is too depressing.
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