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  1. #9758

    Riley. Full Race

    There are runners, then there are racers. Rarely is a woman built for hyper speeds, plus agility and performance. Styles herself after Riley Reid, but blows her away in both looks and performance. I call her The Heart Attack Kid.

    First time I met Riley was early this year. Spotted this little bomb and every nerve in my body twitched. So perfectly proportioned and statuesque in likely the smallest frame in the club, that nerve fired every time she moved. I had to go for it. During the ficha she was a bit off standing, but is so hot I went ahead. At 22 yo, at 4'10,98 lbs, has a Geisha tattoo on her upper right arm, an image she aspires to perfect. Caught her at a time when young, new recruits are putty in our hands.

    You can tell by her mannerisms she understands she's smoking hot, but instead of being stuck on the fact, she uses it to lavish on you. First off without asking jumped into reverse cowgirl. My favorite! Is this girl psychic? What followed was epic. This girl is so proficient, such a GFE, spent almost two hours with her, broke for drinks, both of us still dripping perspiration downstairs even after showering, then repeating for another two. DFK, loves her nipples given attention, especially the left one. Loves having her perfect little body adored. BBBJ without request. In fact, once when it was getting late, she explained that her ride was already waiting, then proceeded to give me the BJ of my life. I almost hit my head on the ceiling. I kid you not. Immediately after came a cute little giggle. Mission accomplished.

    Upstairs never mentions money and is super grateful for the donation and the great sex. Overtime comes without her noticing. Says she's charged by management if she over stays. Once saw her paying off the manager to a big tune, but every time she doesn't seem to mind. Is it me? I think not. But YMMV.

    Especially after all the talk on this forum of girls at HK who are all show and no go, I'm very wary. So much so that I opted for Tropical for my second seed when Riley failed to appear the other night. If you spot her, do not hesitate.

    Treat her well. She has literally ruined me for other sportin' women.

  2. #9757
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    If money is the primary factor then Chicago is the worst. But I have had HK waiters stare me down trying to intimidate me into another drink, asked if I wanted a boy instead, and Called me a faggot.

    No wonder HK security searches guests so thoroughly for weapons. I would bet that a couple of irritated patrons have been pushed a little too far by waiters and came back to get even.
    As an aside, iIMHO, security at the door isn't very thorough. If one wanted to they could, depending on who's frisking at the moment, easily access a weapon.

  3. #9756
    To Scud,

    One bad HK session out of ten isn't too bad for me. I got lots of hot sessions and GFEs in Tijuana so I can't complain. I got a lot worse in the US and other countries.

    I had some wonderful times in Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. I always like Canadians for being nice, gentle and civilized. A few brilliant scientists at GM Research took me to strip bars in Windsor one Friday night. The strippers were mostly petite and pretty French Canadians, looking like HK girls. It's easy to fall in love with them. They walk around with stools so they can do table dance with their crotches aiming at the guys' faces hehe.

    The girls in Sosua and Costa Rica are huge and very dark, not attractive to me. Girls in Buenos Aires are older, plain, thick and expensive. I picked up a couple girls and found only 2 or 3 out of 50 young, attractive, sexy worth bagging. The apartment girls are old and chunky. Took a woman from Cafe Orleans. Out of her clothes she looked old, ugly with bad skin and lots of tattoos. She's angry and bitter because Cafe Orleans charges them high fees to hang out and hook guys. Took a woman from Hooks, a pitch-black bar in Centro. In street lights she turned out a wrinkled grandma. Damn. I like Argentinians and her pretty girls a lot, nice, sweet, fun, light-hearted, but the commercial sex scene is bad.

    There were half dozen girls, a few young attractive, at the defunct Black or Madaho, upscale clubs in downtown BS As. Cover was $40 and the girls were forbidden to talk to clients until they buy fichas. The girls also want $300 for ST in a depressed economy. Latinas have their pride that's hard to understand. The clubs did little business and shut down. A bro lives half time in BS As and have regular escorts for $100ST sessions, not as attractive as HK girls. I took him to HK one night, he could not believe his eyes, went wild, bagged 3 girls in a couple hours. This veteran monger clearly preferred Tijuana over BS As.

    Girls in Rio and Sao Paolo tend to be skanky and ghetto mulattas. They are not attractive to me and can be very rough. I had a good time in Foz do Iquacus in Brazil side, with nice, fun, fresh young girls from the casas, about $60ST. Took an escort from upscale club Krystal for $300ST. She looked hot like a model but her coochie smelled fishy, just ruined the session.

    Was in Bangkok a few months ago. Booked an escort and a massage woman. Both were old and rough, not attractive and sexy at all. I had to close my eyes to get the session over with.

    The best place for Asian girls is Singapore. The lorongs off Geylang have hundreds girls from all over Asia doing ST for $40 to $50. Bagged 2 Northern Thai girls, both light skinned looking like models. Lots of Chinese, Viets and Malays. Neighbor town Johor Bahru has lots of shy, cherubic Malay girls, even less expensive than Singapore.

    I was planning to go to Germany for FKKs this fall, but events delayed it. Quite a few seasoned global mongers have confirmed Tijuana as their favorite place, lots of pretty girls, fun, convenient, low costs ect.

    Don't know when you will be in Tijuana. Drop me a PM, may be we can meet for a few drinks.

    No question that was a bad break for Solo but from his other posts, he had good sessions too. Not all good and unfortunate that the new pretty ones give the crap.

    I am all ears for a better bar and I am happy to have had good times at Adelitas, CC and Trop (I have never scored at Chevales) but the hunt continues.

    We have a bar in Mississauga called Café Atlantis. One of a few stripbars where extras can happen. Had a great time there a few occasions so when I travelled to Toronto again I made a point to drop in.

    My favorite was not working but wow this pretty girl sat next to me and you know the pitch.

    Of course this girl is all over me and after the second song, she whispers that she wants to do more to me.

    Boom off we go to a secluded area of the upper floor. I gladly pay $140 cad for a BJ. Then the rules came out and as she applied the condom, I touched it. Well now she has to start all over, it was grueling and I only stayed to see if she would actually put it in her mouth.

    My long point is that its not just HK, you transfer the * story to any number of clubs.

    I hear great things about Pattaya, Sosua, South America but time and money precludes these places for me.

    If I had not found Tijuana I would be roaming Montreal or Toronto.

    I sound like a shrill for Tijuana but I am booked to fly again so let the games begin.

    Seriously, with 6 days off, I also considered the FKK clubs of Hamburg but the euro is not much better to the Canadian dollar and the jet lag and language. Maybe next time.

  4. #9755
    Quote Originally Posted by TunaSlayer  [View Original Post]
    Got really really hammered at HK last night and somewhere in the middle of the session condom fell off and I came in a really hot chick. She didn't mind. O well hope I don't die. It was fun. Last night was good not too crowded and lots of hotties. I only banged one but it was worth it.
    Me too. About a week ago. Not Hong Kong though. Happens all night long to people. They break, some girls, like regular girls prefer it without, I'd say 70% tinder dates request no condom on first sex, and working girls are normal people themselves their mentality doesn't always change on condoms. I'd say for bar girls for me, 10% told me in the room we don't need a condom another 10% were a second away from putting it in before I said let's put it on. I always use one.

  5. #9754
    Quote Originally Posted by ScatManDoo  [View Original Post]
    I made my first visit to La Zona in October 2004.

    I found out about La Zona just one or two months earlier on the internet.

    It was obvious to me that some Spanish was necessary, but not much Spanish was necessary. Before going to LZ I wrote down and memorized just a few Spanglish phrases. They were geared toward negotiating for sex sessions with street girls.

    Tu es muy bonita.

    Por mi, sin ropa, fucky / suckie, tres positiones, doscientos pesos.

    Si.

    No.

    Bueno..
    Yes. I find that one only needs to learn key Spanish words, and the chicas will help with conversation. One need not learn the full language. Also I often throw an "o" into English words and somehow the Chicas know what I mean. Thumbs up to women's intuition.

  6. #9753
    Quote Originally Posted by ClamSlammer  [View Original Post]
    In all the major bars, the meseros pay the bar to work there. That is why there are 10 X more meseros than necessary. CC meseros are by far the most dishonest. You pay with pesos at HK / AB / TB and you have maybe a 5%-10% chance of getting short-changed. At CC the rate is literally 100%. Their posted exchange rate is 19:1 but the meseros charge you 20:1 and pocket the difference. They don't do it sometimes, or half the time, or most of the time. They do it every time.
    If money is the primary factor then Chicago is the worst. But I have had HK waiters stare me down trying to intimidate me into another drink, asked if I wanted a boy instead, and Called me a faggot.

    No wonder HK security searches guests so thoroughly for weapons. I would bet that a couple of irritated patrons have been pushed a little too far by waiters and came back to get even.

  7. #9752

    Spanish

    I have to disagree on knowing Spanish to finesse the girls.

    Even as a newbie, I always got my point across. It most certainly helps to speak spanish but during that ficha, I never found the language a barrier. Touching my 2 fingers to my lips then hers, I waited for the kiss. See what happens. Lots of ways to communicate.

    The more you are down there, the more natural the words begin to flow.

    Now with google translate and other apps, the technical have become easier.

    It really is a learning curve, a fun one.

    In Canadian schools, French was required. Not much help down there.

  8. #9751

    Live at HK

    San Ysidro 20 min or less.

    Pad West 10 or less.

    HK beer $7.

    Chica.

    Spanglish. Tijuana OK too.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Let's not forget, in order to do any of this you need to master step number 1: learn Spanish.

    If you don't know Spanish, you can't finesse shit. It's hard to interview downstairs without Spanish because you may try to negotiate that you want to pay after, but you may not be aware how you're coming off in Spanish. If you're not phrasing what you want in a positive way, most of the girls will immediately say no. And sometimes the girls act confused after you tell them, so now you don't know if they didn't understand or if they did understand but are just staying silent so they don't "call your bluff".

    You got to know Spanish to finesse. It makes it easier to get across what you want. The easiest approach is to pick the hot girl, say "arriba 80 dollars", and then off you go. In my experience though this just does not work out, 85% of the time you get a shit session. You definitely need to interview for a few minutes and find out the following things:.
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  9. #9750
    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Let's not forget, in order to do any of this you need to master step number 1: learn Spanish.

    If you don't know Spanish, you can't finesse shit. It's hard to interview downstairs without Spanish because you may try to negotiate that you want to pay after, but you may not be aware how you're coming off in Spanish. If you're not phrasing what you want in a positive way, most of the girls will immediately say no. And sometimes the girls act confused after you tell them, so now you don't know if they didn't understand or if they did understand but are just staying silent so they don't "call your bluff".

    You got to know Spanish to finesse. It makes it easier to get across what you want. The easiest approach is to pick the hot girl, say "arriba 80 dollars", and then off you go. In my experience though this just does not work out, 85% of the time you get a shit session. You definitely need to interview for a few minutes and find out the following things:
    I made my first visit to La Zona in October 2004.

    I found out about La Zona just one or two months earlier on the internet.

    It was obvious to me that some Spanish was necessary, but not much Spanish was necessary. Before going to LZ I wrote down and memorized just a few Spanglish phrases. They were geared toward negotiating for sex sessions with street girls.

    Tu es muy bonita.

    Por mi, sin ropa, fucky / suckie, tres positiones, doscientos pesos.

    Si.

    No.

    Bueno.

    After nearly 15 years of visiting la Zona, I maybe know about 200 to 300 words in Spanish. Not enough to be conversational in Spanish.

    With my broken Spanglish, I sound like a two year-old when I try to speak in Spanish. Yet by keeping it basic, I seem to be fairly well understood by the chicas.

    I go to Tijuana to fuck on the cheap, not to engage in meaningful conversations with prostitutes.

  10. #9749
    Got really really hammered at HK last night and somewhere in the middle of the session condom fell off and I came in a really hot chick. She didn't mind. O well hope I don't die. It was fun. Last night was good not too crowded and lots of hotties. I only banged one but it was worth it.

  11. #9748
    Quote Originally Posted by ScatManDoo  [View Original Post]
    I agree that paying upfront increases the chances of the chica performing poorly, because after you pay she might not care about you being happy with her. But some chicas do perform well, even after receiving payment up front.

    I agree and fortunately there are many chicas in LZ, whom are not working in HK.

    You already made your point by writing "almost all of them will demand. ,. ". " At least you realize it is not absolutely all of them. The point is that a mongering vet will learn how to recognize the chicas that likely won't give you a bad session. The experienced monger will learn and perform tests in their chica interactions that help toss aside the chicas likely to displease, and help you know which are more likely to perform well..
    Let's not forget, in order to do any of this you need to master step number 1: learn Spanish.

    If you don't know Spanish, you can't finesse shit. It's hard to interview downstairs without Spanish because you may try to negotiate that you want to pay after, but you may not be aware how you're coming off in Spanish. If you're not phrasing what you want in a positive way, most of the girls will immediately say no. And sometimes the girls act confused after you tell them, so now you don't know if they didn't understand or if they did understand but are just staying silent so they don't "call your bluff".

    You got to know Spanish to finesse. It makes it easier to get across what you want. The easiest approach is to pick the hot girl, say "arriba 80 dollars", and then off you go. In my experience though this just does not work out, 85% of the time you get a shit session. You definitely need to interview for a few minutes and find out the following things:

    1) how sexual is she, is she flirting a lot, does she let you grope her tits, ass, etc?

    2) tell her you want to pay after, if she puts up a fight, leave.

    3) tell her you want the full 30 minutes, ask about her prior experiences, tease her to see if she's the kind of girl to leave after 15 minutes of shit sex.

    If you're having difficulty going through this interview smoothly, then you're most likely dealing with a hustling and cold hearted *****, at that point you should screen her out.

    But again, in order to do any of this, you need to know Spanish. It's definitely not newbie friendly, you need to be experienced to maybe come out ahead here. The newbie will always lose here. Because the newbie method is again as I've stated: pick hot girl, say arriba $80, and off you go. That is a losing method.

  12. #9747

    Meseros

    In all the major bars, the meseros pay the bar to work there. That is why there are 10 X more meseros than necessary. CC meseros are by far the most dishonest. You pay with pesos at HK / AB / TB and you have maybe a 5%-10% chance of getting short-changed. At CC the rate is literally 100%. Their posted exchange rate is 19:1 but the meseros charge you 20:1 and pocket the difference. They don't do it sometimes, or half the time, or most of the time. They do it every time.

  13. #9746

    Drinking game. Need lot of them Chica drinks.

    Chica drink flow.

    Quote Originally Posted by WombatEd2  [View Original Post]
    I think the meseros pay the bar to let them work there. So the bar has little incentive to keep the numbers in balance.

  14. #9745

    Why so many meseros?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    I visit Chicago every time. I wouldn't say the meseros are bad. There's more meseros per customer than Hong Kong though.
    I think the meseros pay the bar to let them work there. So the bar has little incentive to keep the numbers in balance.

  15. #9744
    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    My theory is that if you pay first you almost always end up getting fucked over. Meaning, the service will be absolute shit.
    I agree that paying upfront increases the chances of the chica performing poorly, because after you pay she might not care about you being happy with her. But some chicas do perform well, even after receiving payment up front.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    But honestly, Hong Kong really takes some finessing in order to get decent value. There's too much bullshit. Waiters, crappy girls, etc. You need to roll through a loooot of shit to find solid girls. It's work basically. The Zona isn't this easy escape that provides a lot of sex. It still takes work and skill.
    I agree and fortunately there are many chicas in LZ, whom are not working in HK.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    The last time I was there I saw all these girls with amazing bubble butts. But then I got sad because I realized that almost all of them will demand $80 upfront and give you a 15 minute session. What is even the fucking point?.
    You already made your point by writing "almost all of them will demand. ,. ". " At least you realize it is not absolutely all of them. The point is that a mongering vet will learn how to recognize the chicas that likely won't give you a bad session. The experienced monger will learn and perform tests in their chica interactions that help toss aside the chicas likely to displease, and help you know which are more likely to perform well.

    If you want to pay after, sort that out in the interview process downstairs in the bar, not after you two have gone up into the room.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Might as well just not do it,
    For some mongers, maybe you, this could be the only realistic approach.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Going with one of those girls is just throwing away your money man.
    That might very well be the case for you.

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