Hong Kong Club Reports

[Nothing24]

Headed down last night a little bit past 10.2nd floor was fully open. Chica selection was ok. Bumped into a friend of one of my ATF's upstairs and we talked for a while without having to buy her a drink. We were discussing a little drama that happened after our last threesome. We were both on the same page in regards to what had happened so basically we were just talking shit about the other girl LOL. Only 1 mesero eventually approached me to buy her a drink but I quickly waved him off. She still stayed and talked to me for about an additional five minutes or so. When the conversation winded down I told her I was going to make a couple rounds and maybe catch up later.

Spotted a pretty girl (slim, all natural, brunette) in a string bikini I had seen once or twice before but she was always drinking with other clients. I finally saw her alone so I had a mesero grab her for me so I could feel her out. I believe she said her working name was Kaylani from Puerto Vallarta and 18 years old. She asked if she could order wine. Since I really wasn't looking to do any arribas on this night and knew I wouldn't be spending a large amount of money on anything else, I playfully told her fine but only if she didn't down it right away. She giggled and promised not to. I sort of looked at it as a long term investment in case things went well. To her credit she made the wine last a good half hour or so while we talked and she danced a little. Alternatively it was also nice not having a mesero hound us every 5 minutes to buy her another beer. She was cool but I wouldn't necessarily label her a sure fire thing yet. The real test will be when I have my own room for the night and get her together with another one of my chica friends to loosen her up a little more, which she said she is open to, so hopefully I can make that happen soon. We left things on a good note but to be continued. Definitely some potential here, we'll see.

Ran into another chica I took arriba one time and things had gone well. She is bisexual so I have been looking to set something up with a particular ATF for what I know will be an amazing threesome. We were going to try last week but our schedules didn't align. I invited her to drink. She asked about my other friend so I texted her right then and there to see what she was up to. Turned out she was out with a friend at Revolucion and not working so we'll have to meet up some other day. After about 3 beers I told her I wasn't looking to go arriba tonight so I would understand if she would prefer to go find another potential client to possibly make more money with. She said she had actually done really well over the weekend and that she wasn't looking to hunt for more arribas. I enjoyed her company so I told her she could stay if she wanted to which she did for about another 2 hours. Time flew by at an incredible speed. She said we need to get together outside of the club some time so we can have less distractions and do whatever we wanted to at our own pace. She said the meseros get on her nerves. I told her if they got on her nerves, imagine how much they get on mine as a client LOL. A chica friend of hers texted her to ask if she would take her lunch break with her and she said sure. She still hung out for another half hour or so until her friend got tired of waiting and made her way over to my table. She introduced me to her and explained why she was taking so long. Her friend apologized to me for interrupting but I told her it was totally fine and I should be going on my way as well anyway. At this point it was a little past 2 am. We said our goodbyes and made plans to finally go through with the threesome next time. After that I finally headed home.

[BangoSkank]

Now I'm curious about her getting into Mexico. Walking in at San ysidro is usually where the problem is. They insist on passport or passport card and won't even accept sentri or GE.

I know going back to the USA Is not much of an issue. One time an amigo forgot his ID and had no issues making it back with his ralphs card and no trip to secondary.

Why would Mexico let someone in with a sentri or global entry? Those are US programs for entry into the US, they have nothing to do with Mexico.

[Dac007]

You're an idiot. You need a passport. Simple as that. "Real ID" doesn't mean shit dude. You're not in California. You're in a different country. Get with the program and use a passport.

Update, I'm coming down there next week. The friends I mentioned live in LA and decided to go this weekend, I wasn't coming, too much football this weekend, didn't want to watch at HK or a tiny hotel TV. They went down Friday afternoon, came back Sat afternoon. My friend with no passport was able go get back with his California DL with little issues. They did question why he doesn't have his passport but told him they would have detained much longer if he was or looked Hispanic. They asked him if the address on his DL was current, what were the cross streets of his home, directions to his home from LAX, what high school he attended and the mascot of the school. Finally the system works in favor of a black man! Guess I'm not that much of an idiot!

[Turgid]

I have my passport, I was asking for a friend who doesn't.......

I remember the days when I used to visit Tijuana regularly (1980's). I used to just walk into Mexico, no questions asked, no one even looked at you. Many times no one even around. Good old days.

[Dac007]

You're an idiot. You need a passport. Simple as that. "Real ID" doesn't mean shit dude. You're not in California. You're in a different country. Get with the program and use a passport.

I have my passport, I was asking for a friend who doesn't. If you are going to reply with a BS nasty attitude just keep you comments to yourself. Most people here are respectful, stop being a douche.

[Dogers69]

I have a friend who lives in San Diego. She loves to come down to visit me when I'm in Tijuana and the girl has no passport just a California ID card. I have global entry. I refuse to cross with her if we happen to go back at the same time. She's my homegirl and I love her and all but I ain't waiting in that line LOL.

Having said this they do seem to give her no issues getting back into the USA which amazes me as I told her she really should have a passport to cross. She's stubborn tho and insists she's fine crossing with just her California ID.

I don't understand why anyone cares if others cross back I to usa with out a passport. I mean many millions of people move here every year and their entire criminal history doesn't count against them since their felonies and murders happneed in other countries. Meanwhile an American arrested for shoplifting 30 yrs ago may still have that going against them. So if everyone and anyone is allowednin usa what significance is the us passport anyway.

[Baxter Slade]

I have a friend who lives in San Diego. She loves to come down to visit me when I'm in Tijuana and the girl has no passport just a California ID card. I have global entry. I refuse to cross with her if we happen to go back at the same time. She's my homegirl and I love her and all but I ain't waiting in that line LOL.

Having said this they do seem to give her no issues getting back into the USA which amazes me as I told her she really should have a passport to cross. She's stubborn tho and insists she's fine crossing with just her California ID.

Now I'm curious about her getting into Mexico. Walking in at San ysidro is usually where the problem is. They insist on passport or passport card and won't even accept sentri or GE.

I know going back to the USA Is not much of an issue. One time an amigo forgot his ID and had no issues making it back with his ralphs card and no trip to secondary.

[Daytonamonger]

I've crossed the border without any document.

I explained to the border patrol agent that I lost my wallet and he let me through. No secondary.

That being said, it is unwise to try to cross without the proper documents (passport or passport card). You are really leaving it to the discretion of the border patrol whether to let you cross. I assume if you are legally allowed to enter the US, that this will eventually be determined and you will be allowed to cross, but only after varying degrees of hassle and delay. Certainly this is not something you would want to attempt habitually.

I have a friend who lives in San Diego. She loves to come down to visit me when I'm in Tijuana and the girl has no passport just a California ID card. I have global entry. I refuse to cross with her if we happen to go back at the same time. She's my homegirl and I love her and all but I ain't waiting in that line LOL.

Having said this they do seem to give her no issues getting back into the USA which amazes me as I told her she really should have a passport to cross. She's stubborn tho and insists she's fine crossing with just her California ID.

[HK Monger]

I've crossed the border without any document.

I explained to the border patrol agent that I lost my wallet and he let me through. No secondary.

That being said, it is unwise to try to cross without the proper documents (passport or passport card). You are really leaving it to the discretion of the border patrol whether to let you cross. I assume if you are legally allowed to enter the US, that this will eventually be determined and you will be allowed to cross, but only after varying degrees of hassle and delay. Certainly this is not something you would want to attempt habitually.

[StRobert]

I appreciate the comments. It looks like you are both correct. You definitely should have a passport but I've seen dozens and dozens of posts across the internet about people crossing with their ID / DL experiencing just a short delay they especially indicated that a REAL ID makes it easier since only a few states currently have enhanced ID's. Haven't seen any 12 hour horror stories. I also think ethnicity may play a part in how long they detain you. If you're a Hispanic man, of course they will be a bit more suspicious. I'll see if my friend wants to roll the dice and try it.

San Ysidro pedestrian border crossing has a one way revolving door. This means that if you enter Mexican territory (Tijuana) through this door, you cannot return to the US the same way. In case you do not have documents like a passport, passport card and are not allowed into Mexico, Mexican marines will escort you to the US entrance (not far away) and hand you over to US officers, CBP. Then probably to an office behind glass where you have to prove that you are a US citizen. That is what biometric passports and passport cards are for, because otherwise any good Russian, Mossad or other agent with a perfect American accent can easily enter the US. It is true, in the past about 20 years ago you could enter Tijuana without documents because there was no Mexican border guard, and you can return to the US with a driving license. Now it is much more difficult.

[ABAJoeSmith123]

I appreciate the comments. It looks like you are both correct. You definitely should have a passport but I've seen dozens and dozens of posts across the internet about people crossing with their ID / DL experiencing just a short delay they especially indicated that a REAL ID makes it easier since only a few states currently have enhanced ID's. Haven't seen any 12 hour horror stories. I also think ethnicity may play a part in how long they detain you. If you're a Hispanic man, of course they will be a bit more suspicious. I'll see if my friend wants to roll the dice and try it.

You're an idiot. You need a passport. Simple as that. "Real ID" doesn't mean shit dude. You're not in California. You're in a different country. Get with the program and use a passport.

[Dac007]

Telling people passports are not necessary is a wrong thing to do. Please don't do that. Secondary are not always nice, in fact they are usually pricks. They could put a note in your profile and you could be harassed every-time you get in even with allowed docs. Whenever you want their permits like TWIC, GE etc. That note will come up. Not a good idea. Also, you could be refused entry into Mexico if you catch them in one of their stricter moods.

This conversation is closed on my side.

I appreciate the comments. It looks like you are both correct. You definitely should have a passport but I've seen dozens and dozens of posts across the internet about people crossing with their ID / DL experiencing just a short delay they especially indicated that a REAL ID makes it easier since only a few states currently have enhanced ID's. Haven't seen any 12 hour horror stories. I also think ethnicity may play a part in how long they detain you. If you're a Hispanic man, of course they will be a bit more suspicious. I'll see if my friend wants to roll the dice and try it.

[Zenduka1]

Since you like to go by what it says on the official CBP website you might want to read this.

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citize...nitiative/faqs

And if you got to the question about what happens if you don't have a passport or alternative travel document. It clearly says.

What happens to persons who attempt to enter or re-enter the country without a passport or an alternative travel document?

For the general public, people who apply for entry but do not have appropriate documentation will likely be referred for secondary screening at the port. In secondary, Customs and Border Protection officers will evaluate evidence of citizenship or identity the individual may have and will verify all information against available databases.

Like I said this isn't the first time this has been asked on this board or others but I guess people that have no clue about this only go off what limited knowledge they have but act like experts.

Telling people passports are not necessary is a wrong thing to do. Please don't do that. Secondary are not always nice, in fact they are usually pricks. They could put a note in your profile and you could be harassed every-time you get in even with allowed docs. Whenever you want their permits like TWIC, GE etc. That note will come up. Not a good idea. Also, you could be refused entry into Mexico if you catch them in one of their stricter moods.

This conversation is closed on my side.

[Sol12]

Here is the official word from https://www.help.cbp.gov.

Land or Sea Travel: USA Citizens (including infants and children) entering the United States by land or sea are required to present a valid WHTI-compliant travel document. These include:

USA Passport or USA Passport Card.

Enhanced Driver's License (FYI this is not real ID).

Enhanced Tribal Card.

Trusted Traveler Program (TTP) cards* (Global Entry* NEXUS, or SENTRI)..

Since you like to go by what it says on the official CBP website you might want to read this.

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citize...nitiative/faqs

And if you got to the question about what happens if you don't have a passport or alternative travel document. It clearly says.

What happens to persons who attempt to enter or re-enter the country without a passport or an alternative travel document?

For the general public, people who apply for entry but do not have appropriate documentation will likely be referred for secondary screening at the port. In secondary, Customs and Border Protection officers will evaluate evidence of citizenship or identity the individual may have and will verify all information against available databases.

Like I said this isn't the first time this has been asked on this board or others but I guess people that have no clue about this only go off what limited knowledge they have but act like experts.

[Sol12]

Telling people they do not need a passport to enter Mexico and the USA from international location is wrong. Telling it like you did is correct. Border control may or may not make it easy. You are leaving your ease of passage to their discretion.

Here is the official word from https://www.help.cbp.gov.

So I guess you just like to lie to people. Obviously the person that posted the question knew what the law is anyone can look it up. His question was in reference to seeing others use what he perceived as just a ID. So since this board is dedicated to those that have crossed often he wanted to verify if his friend didn't have a passport that he could still return. The answer is yes if he is a US citizen. I also said he might have to go to secondary to prove who he is.

You said flat out that you need a passport.

So from those two stories who is really telling the truth and letting the person decide? Because later you told a story about someone let into the US without a passport. Why didn't you tell that story in the beginning? That way the person would have a better idea of the possible delay in his return. You didn't give him that option instead trying to lie.

Maybe you like to lie to people and force them to do what you think is correct, I don't believe in that especially after the last 5 years and the government trying to tell us something that wasn't true because they want to control us.

I believe in man's free will.