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  1. #19569
    Quote Originally Posted by FlapJacK  [View Original Post]
    Its simple. Just go to any normal Tijuana pharmacy and ask for sildenafil, viagra, or cialis.
    Fantastic. Thank you, guys.

  2. #19568

    That's sad

    Quote Originally Posted by Zenduka1  [View Original Post]
    Heard a HK girl has been in intensive care this past week after taking too much drugs in a room, possibly even forced to have sex with more than one man in a Cas penthouse. Anyone heard this?
    That sucks if its true. Wouldn't be surprised though knowing the all the types of risks and deals many of the chicas make to earn extra cash. Drugged and gang banged by a couple rough mongers would cause all sorts of injuries. Internal bleeding, vaginal tears, etc.

  3. #19567
    Quote Originally Posted by TheoTheMonger  [View Original Post]
    Jim, I have never used any type of blue pill before, but this post totally resonated with me. Sage advice indeed.

    My question: Short of going to your doctor (not going to happen with me) is there any way to get those in a way that you know for sure, without any doubt, that they are legit 100% pure and correct unadulterated real deal pills? That you know with confidence that they're good? First from a safety standpoint and then from a not getting ripped off standpoint?
    Its simple. Just go to any normal Tijuana pharmacy and ask for sildenafil, viagra, or cialis.

  4. #19566
    Quote Originally Posted by TheoTheMonger  [View Original Post]
    Jim, I have never used any type of blue pill before, but this post totally resonated with me. Sage advice indeed.

    My question: Short of going to your doctor (not going to happen with me) is there any way to get those in a way that you know for sure, without any doubt, that they are legit 100% pure and correct unadulterated real deal pills? That you know with confidence that they're good? First from a safety standpoint and then from a not getting ripped off standpoint?
    Costco in Tijuana sells Pfizer Viagra at decent prices. No prescription necessary. You just need a Costco membership.

  5. #19565
    Heard a HK girl has been in intensive care this past week after taking too much drugs in a room, possibly even forced to have sex with more than one man in a Cas penthouse. Anyone heard this?

  6. #19564

    One Of The Smartest Posts I've Ever Read

    Jim, I have never used any type of blue pill before, but this post totally resonated with me. Sage advice indeed.

    My question: Short of going to your doctor (not going to happen with me) is there any way to get those in a way that you know for sure, without any doubt, that they are legit 100% pure and correct unadulterated real deal pills? That you know with confidence that they're good? First from a safety standpoint and then from a not getting ripped off standpoint?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim0129  [View Original Post]
    About 15 years ago I had my first trip to Medellin Colombia and I met one MDE veteran who took me under his wing (I'm Mexican and a Tijuana local so I would translate for him, it was a simbiotic relationship), the first thing he said to me was to buy the blue pill, I was also in my 30's and told him that I didn't need it, then he asked me, what is the most expensive thing that you're going to buy doring this trip?

    Back then Colombia was a lot cheaper than Tijuana, but still I said that "girls" was the most expensive thing I would spend my money on. The answered "no" most expensive part of your trip is your time, time you're taking of from work, you're spending vacation days in this trip instead of spending it at a more tourist and interesting part of the world.

    Then he told me that I needed viagra because it would help me to keep up with all the girls available for me to f*ck, and he was right, you stop doing girls not because you run out of money, in reality you run out of sexual stamina, and since you're just visiting for a week or two you better make the best out of that time.

  7. #19563
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    But don't treat the girls bad just because they're putas.
    At least for me, this was my only point as you see the lack of respect both on these boards and inside the clubs. As far as the discussion about "options" I lean towards your view that the girls generally do have other options, albeit those other options usually not affording nearly as comfortable a lifestyle. Three of the chicas I deal with regularly at HK are college educated and come off as very intelligent and capable to me. My thought is they'd all be able to land "regular" jobs that pay more (perhaps way more) than what the average Mexican woman, or maybe even more than what the average Mexican person regardless of gender makes. But even that kind of salary would pale in comparison to what they make only working a few days a week at HK part-time. So those chicas have CHOSEN to go the HK route to afford a more comfortable lifestyle that from what I've seen personally not only affords them a better lifestyle for their kids, but nice cars, clothes, and the means to travel both throughout Mexico and internationally on a regular basis. I understand that most chicas at HK are relatively uneducated and come from more dire situations but even they generally have options, that was just one example off the top of my head.

    Life options are certainly more limited for these chicas, which isn't fair, but at the end of the day life isn't fair. In my mind it's somewhat like defending someone whose taken up a criminal lifestlye by saying they came from an impoverished family, so therefore "didn't have any other options" but a life of crime to make a decent life for themselves and their family. Certainly have empathy for being born into an impoverished situation but to say that there are no other "options" other than a life of crime to lead a sustainable life is patently false. Of course there are different moral considerations when judging an illegal life of crime vs. The legal prostitution work here but think in both situations there are other reasonable life options that can be chosen, even if limited.

  8. #19562

    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    I mean this place is just reeking with hypocrisy! As for me, I have empathy, but it's not something I dwell on. But don't treat the girls bad just because they're putas. Now, these girls they do have options. They aren't great options, but who said life was easy? Life is hard. As Ali said, life is trials and tribulations. But the thing is, not just thousands but millions and millions of women around the world, many with even fewer good options than Mexican women have, choose not to sell their bodies in favor of doing something else that preserves their dignity. These working girls mostly chose to go into the profession, each one for her own particular reasons, and I and millions of other men are consumers of their services. It is what it is. We all have to do what we have to do to in order to survive in at least the minimum manner that we would like to. Have food, clothing, and shelter. Get medicine. Pay our monthly bills. Take care of our families. For so, so many that's a never ending struggle. And it all can lead to making some very difficult life decisions. But I ask again, who said life was easy (especially for women)? Life is hard. Life is trials and tribulations. And then you die.
    As an economics professor I had once said, "no one promised you a rose garden" People have choices. It might not be choices you like and at the end of the day you reap what you sow.

  9. #19561

    Exactamente!

    Quote Originally Posted by HKMonger  [View Original Post]
    It seems somewhat hypocritical to me that some of you who feel so sorry for the girls have no qualms about going down there and contributing to the so-called problem.
    I mean this place is just reeking with hypocrisy! As for me, I have empathy, but it's not something I dwell on. But don't treat the girls bad just because they're putas. Now, these girls they do have options. They aren't great options, but who said life was easy? Life is hard. As Ali said, life is trials and tribulations. But the thing is, not just thousands but millions and millions of women around the world, many with even fewer good options than Mexican women have, choose not to sell their bodies in favor of doing something else that preserves their dignity. These working girls mostly chose to go into the profession, each one for her own particular reasons, and I and millions of other men are consumers of their services. It is what it is. We all have to do what we have to do to in order to survive in at least the minimum manner that we would like to. Have food, clothing, and shelter. Get medicine. Pay our monthly bills. Take care of our families. For so, so many that's a never ending struggle. And it all can lead to making some very difficult life decisions. But I ask again, who said life was easy (especially for women)? Life is hard. Life is trials and tribulations. And then you die.

  10. #19560

    Give me a tissue.

    It seems somewhat hypocritical to me that some of you who feel so sorry for the girls have no qualms about going down there and contributing to the so-called problem. "Just look at all the nasty losers they have to fuck, but with me it A-OK. " –– That's literally what every guy who goes down there is thinking, even the nasty losers themselves (Except for the one guy on this board with really low self-esteem. Not naming any names.).

    I don't really feel sorry for the girls. I've known a few of them quite well, and I don't think they are any more of less happy than the girl who works in the "fabrica. " They're not slaves, and they don't really have to fuck anyone if they don't want to. For a lot of them, this is a way of life. They don't really know any different, and a lot of them came from worse situations than this. Thus, they don't have a point of reference from which to say, "wow, my life is bad. " In fact, their life could actually be good in comparison to their previous situation. It's not like they were fired from their job as a hedge fund manager and forced to become a ho.

    Yes, options are more limited in Mexico. Especially for women. Right or wrong, in a way you be thankful for this because it is exactly what allows us to get the caliber of pussy we are getting. You know what happens when you empower women and give them plenty of options. The US happens. Any we all know what the pussy situation is like there.

  11. #19559
    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    I love your contributions to the forum. You're a core member here. But I respectfully disagree here. Saying these girls have options that they just don't take is a semantic bait and switch if you define the word options as free will. Of course they have free will. That's not what I, or others, meant. The point being made is that the other job opportunities they have will leave them in a permanent state of financial despair. Here in California the minimum hourly wage is like 17 or 18 bucks now. In Tijuana it's just under 14 dollars per day. Even if Tijuana is cheaper, you can't buy diapers and formula and have a roof over your head with 14 dollars a day. So many of these girls make the choice, yes the choice, to trade their dignity for our salacious pleasure. I'm sure some of them are freaks and sex addicts and such. But most of them don't get off on having a rotating cast of nasty guys penetrate them with beer breath. It's a choice. But one many of them make out of necessity because they deem the other paths to be even more unpleasant. And I don't mean working retail. I mean living a life where they are permanently incapable of providing for those who depend on them. Many of these HK girls do things you or I would never do for money and they do it with inner strength and a conviction to just hold it all together and get that baby his diapers or get that mom her medication. And yes some get hooked on drugs or the fast life. Many have it thrust upon them as a form of virtual handcuffs.

    You don't know me but I'm not woke. I despise people who talk like I'm talking up there. I never use words like privilege and equity unless I'm mocking people who talk like that. But in our private corner of the internet, where we all delight in banging Latinas half our age with no commitment, I am not in fear of someone dropping a me too bomb on me. So I feel at liberty to at least point out what I'm saying there. We need to know it. Some guys sense contempt from these girls and seem to have zero ability to infer where that contempt comes from or why it exists. It reveals a lack of empathy, the ability to imagine the same interaction had in HK but from the other person's perspective.

    Ok PSA over. Back to swapping stories of the latest chick from Sinaloa or Michoacn to arrive in Tijuana that we have to avoid buying mini wine bottles for. Arriba arriba.
    I totally agree with what you are saying in regards to the girls. I can't think of many situations where any of these girls actually enjoy what they are doing unless they form a relationship with a nice caring guy they have genuine attraction for or have some sort of, trauma, mental illness, on drugs.

    The thought of these girls having to suck it up and endure doing what they do is heartbreaking. From my observation most the guys are around the zona are losers. A wide variety of drunk, fat, not hygienically clean slobs and everything in between and like you say some are abusive and have poor attitude with these girls. I would guess most these girls have some form of PTSD from it all.

  12. #19558

    Wages

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    Here in California the minimum hourly wage is like 17 or 18 bucks now. In Tijuana it's just under 14 dollars per day. Even if Tijuana is cheaper, you can't buy diapers and formula and have a roof over your head with 14 dollars a day. So many of these girls make the choice, yes the choice, to trade their dignity for our salacious pleasure. I'm sure some of them are freaks and sex addicts and such. But most of them don't get off on having a rotating cast of nasty guys penetrate them with beer breath. It's a choice. But one many of them make out of necessity because they deem the other paths to be even more unpleasant. And I don't mean working retail. I mean living a life where they are permanently incapable of providing for those who depend on them. Many of these HK girls do things you or I would never do for money and they do it with inner strength and a conviction to just hold it all together and get that baby his diapers or get that mom her medication. And yes some get hooked on drugs or the fast life. Many have it thrust upon them as a form of virtual handcuffs.
    Not sure what your source is for the daily minimum wage in Tijuana but it's way off. Since the dollar fluctuates I'd only put what they make in pesos. Also your assuming these girls grew up in Tijuana but the very high majority only come to Tijuana for work so they might make less back home but it would also cost much less. The other thing is the family that they can live with. So they don't need to live on their own. I knew many girls that came to Tijuana just to make money working at a bar just so they could have an independent life and get away from some boring small town.

    Also Mexico has different programs to help single mothers from very low cost medical to affordable housing.

  13. #19557

    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas  [View Original Post]
    Sex work is legitimate work but please stop with the bullshit illusion that these chicas have no other options. They do have options, just not ones that will allow them to live like they want to. This is the Hong Kong thread so the girls working there are the tiniest of tiniest fraction of chicas in Tijuana yet every day a thousand chicas go to work for every Hong Kong chica and guess what they manage their lives to the money they earn. The Hong Kong chicas who posters say have no options is just not true. They simply don't have options that will allow them to live the standard of living they've become accustomed to. Everyone has choices and they choose to sell pussy. Again, no judgement here because as I said sex work is legitimate work, just spare me the sob stories because everyone has struggles especially the women who work hard day in day out in a factory for much less pay.
    I knew plenty of single moms when living in Tijuana that were able to get by without selling their body for sex.

    Also most guys actually believe that these girls don't have a baby daddy still in their lives but all the friends of my ex had one but of course they don't say that while working.

  14. #19556
    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    I love your contributions to the forum. You're a core member here. But I respectfully disagree here. Saying these girls have options that they just don't take is a semantic bait and switch if you define the word options as free will. Of course they have free will. That's not what I, or others, meant. The point being made is that the other job opportunities they have will leave them in a permanent state of financial despair. Here in California the minimum hourly wage is like 17 or 18 bucks now. In Tijuana it's just under 14 dollars per day. Even if Tijuana is cheaper, you can't buy diapers and formula and have a roof over your head with 14 dollars a day. So many of these girls make the choice, yes the choice, to trade their dignity for our salacious pleasure. I'm sure some of them are freaks and sex addicts and such. But most of them don't get off on having a rotating cast of nasty guys penetrate them with beer breath. It's a choice. But one many of them make out of necessity because they deem the other paths to be even more unpleasant. And I don't mean working retail. I mean living a life where they are permanently incapable of providing for those who depend on them. Many of these HK girls do things you or I would never do for money and they do it with inner strength and a conviction to just hold it all together and get that baby his diapers or get that mom her medication. And yes some get hooked on drugs or the fast life. Many have it thrust upon them as a form of virtual handcuffs.

    You don't know me but I'm not woke. I despise people who talk like I'm talking up there. I never use words like privilege and equity unless I'm mocking people who talk like that. But in our private corner of the internet, where we all delight in banging Latinas half our age with no commitment, I am not in fear of someone dropping a me too bomb on me. So I feel at liberty to at least point out what I'm saying there. We need to know it. Some guys sense contempt from these girls and seem to have zero ability to infer where that contempt comes from or why it exists. It reveals a lack of empathy, the ability to imagine the same interaction had in HK but from the other person's perspective.

    Ok PSA over. Back to swapping stories of the latest chick from Sinaloa or Michoacn to arrive in Tijuana that we have to avoid buying mini wine bottles for. Arriba arriba.
    I was also going to respond but your message sums it up and contains the point that I was originally trying to convey which is:

    "The other job opportunities they have will leave them in a permanent state of financial despair. ".

    This isn't a sob story but rather reality. Your comparisons of salary in Mexico vs. The United States further clarifies this point.

  15. #19555
    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]

    You don't know me but I'm not woke. I despise people who talk like I'm talking up there. I never use words like privilege and equity unless I'm mocking people who talk like that. But in our private corner of the internet, where we all delight in banging Latinas half our age with no commitment, I am not in fear of someone dropping a me too bomb on me. So I feel at liberty to at least point out what I'm saying there. We need to know it. Some guys sense contempt from these girls and seem to have zero ability to infer where that contempt comes from or why it exists. It reveals a lack of empathy, the ability to imagine the same interaction had in HK but from the other person's perspective.

    Ok PSA over. Back to swapping stories of the latest chick from Sinaloa or Michoacn to arrive in Tijuana that we have to avoid buying mini wine bottles for. Arriba arriba.
    I have been watching these YouTube videos that can be found by searching in Spanish "entrevista con una bailarina de Tijuana" or "con una cariñosa. " The women here tell their stories. After watching quite a few of them, I summarize that, at the beginning, as young girls, they are usually from tight-knit but lower-class families. As they come into adulthood, they realize that what their parents guide them into doesn't fit their eccentric nature. They are independent and exploring types, and usually, they have good looks, as do the young women they hang out with. In the end, they begin sex work driven by the advice they get from friends or from what they read online, getting seduced by the idea of a financially robust life.

    That is how it generally starts for these Latina women. There is no trauma, no drug abuse, and no sexual abuse; it is just an exploration of a better life.

    The question of whether these women would go into sex work if they had better opportunities is tough to answer since it depends on the individual. One thing to consider is looking at the sex work industries in much richer countries like Japan, Germany, and the USA. You realize that the majority of the sex workers in these countries have opportunities to live comfortably outside sex work, but these women still select it to have access to lavish lifestyles via financial abundance. Look at the explosion of sex workers using OnlyFans in the USA.

    It really comes down to lifestyle, especially when it is safer, less exposed, and less degrading. I am not sure the zona fits this bill. I wish we had a club where all the men are registered, known to be gentlemen, with reputations to protect, who respect the females while having fun and let nature take its course. Unfortunately, we have hundreds of guys who are spittles who come to places like the zona to vent, spread their feces like it is their toilet, and go back to their "Penis cemetery" country called the USA.

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