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  1. #15691
    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    What are some of those reasons that you do not give money?
    Because it's our money and they're not family or anything. Why would you just give money to someone? Only a hustler would flat out ask someone for money. No self respecting adult with any pride would ask someone for money. People that need money get jobs and work for it.

    And besides that, aren't we already providing them an income by visiting the zona for their work. Why on earth should you give more?

  2. #15690

    Verdad

    Quote Originally Posted by Hadez  [View Original Post]
    Besides never getting free sex? Do you need more reasons? I mean I got them if you want but that seems good enough for me.
    Exactly. Most of them, even if they say the next time is free or whatever, will change their tune when it comes time to cash in your free sex ticket. Suddenly they'll hem and haw and may offer you a discount, but few will give you sex the next time without you paying them at least something.

    The second they receive that money from you, they will consider it theirs and that they earned it. When they see you again, most will expect you to pay the normal rate.

  3. #15689
    Maybe the best way to handle it when a chica ask for money is to offer to have sex with them in exchange for money. The chica gets the money that she needs in her emergency. And the guy gets the sex that he wants. There is no misunderstanding, no bitterness, no weird expectations, no resentment, no awkward lying. I guess the guys feel funny that they may be taking advantage of a girl under duress. But let's be honest, sex is her daily occupation. She is going to have sex with some one, why not a nice guy like you?

  4. #15688
    Besides never getting free sex? Do you need more reasons? I mean I got them if you want but that seems good enough for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    What are some of those reasons that you do not give money?

  5. #15687

    No heart, no soul.

    Quote Originally Posted by RikyMichaels7  [View Original Post]
    Another point I want to make is that if you start giving them money that it will never end, and it will never be enough! Also, many of these women have no clue regarding what it means to be appreciative, courteous, respectful. Or to display genuine empathy. They are void of having souls.
    This part is so true of the hardened pros in HK. I saw a Facebook post the other day that made me laugh. Some HK girl posted something about how she loves her boyfriend with her whole heart. Nobody liked the post, but one person did comment. They wrote "that's impossible, because you don't have a heart."

    It wasn't a joke either because she didn't laugh about it and it made her sad. I guess the people closest to these girls realize they are cold and ruthless and devoid of empathy, like Riky said.

  6. #15686
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    This from the one who said, "Everyone going to Tijuana needs to be familiar with the O' Jays song For the Love of Money. It is not just the chicas looking to pay the bills but every single person in the Zona is on this train. Shoot every person in Tijuana is living this song like it is their religion. This is lesson 1 everyone going to Tijuana needs to understand about the basic environment of Tijuana." You did say that right? And that was the point I emphasized. Everybody in the Zona is on the gravy train with their hand out waiting for you to put some effectivo into it.
    This hobby is probably not for you if you can't handle spending money. Nobody's forcing you to go so why keep complaining about it? Anybody that goes out for nightlife or vacations is going to get gouged no matter where it is. And it's still a far better value than anywhere in the states.

  7. #15685

    Giving money to chica in need

    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    Have any of you ever been fooled or roped into financially supporting an HK chica. How much did you give them? I hooked up with an HK chica a few times and she gives me sob stories of how she needs help with her bills. Never asked for any specific amount of money, but I was just curious what others have given if they actually got fooled into doing these financial donations or if they actually wanted to financially support an HK chica.
    As a rule of thumb I would not fall sad stories of need and give much money for no service to any gal at zona.

    However, over years we can get attached to one or two gals.

    So, I could see myself giving significant money to a gal. But there would be an expectation of her time (time = sex).

    We have money and they have something we need / want. So I what I would be willing to do is to give money, possibly in advance, in exchange for time.

  8. #15684

    Not the sharpest knives in the drawer

    Quote Originally Posted by RikyMichaels7  [View Original Post]
    Category 1: (supporting a puta in the business): the girls from HK are the most professional and manipulative in working you out of your money. I also find that 8 out of 10 of these women are very jaded and hardened. Many have been screwed over by an ex husband or boyfriend who gave them children but then subsequently cheated on them and left them hanging to survive on their own without no financial support. As a result, many of them want no relationship whatsoever with a man and feel that they are winners when they can happily screw over a client by taking his money, kind of like getting their revenge. They are void of having souls.
    It's amazing to me how short sighted a lot of these girls are. They are so fixated on any given transaction that they fail to see the bigger picture. I see so many of these girls losing regular customers or potential regulars by making stupid, short sighted decisions. Trying to screw over a customer on a single transaction and they make make a little money on it today, but then lose a huge regular future income stream because they burned that customer.

  9. #15683
    Quote Originally Posted by BobSmith1  [View Original Post]
    If only 90 days, it may not be worth it. I was thinking come here 3 to 4 times a year and that is already plentiful. I was thinking about Mon and Tues too for that 70% off but of course there will be much fewer girls. Or maybe I will be just lucky enough to find 1 or 2 that I like on Mon or Tues or is it just a wishful thinking haha?
    How many girls work in HK on Mon / Tues as compared to Weds / Fri / Sat?

  10. #15682

    Giiving Money to HK Chica's

    Quote Originally Posted by RikyMichaels7  [View Original Post]
    I believe that financial support falls into two categories. Supporting a puta who continues to work as a puta and supporting a puta that wants out of the business (in most cases these are relative newbies who hate the job). These are simply my opinions so don't blast the messenger here.

    Category 1: (supporting a puta in the business): These girls will typically ask for help with the rent when it is due. They will also often provide you with a myriad of sad situation stories where they request money. Examples include, her or any number of family members (mom, dad, cousin, friend, long lost friend) in the hospital or sick, she got in a car wreck and needs help in buying a new car, it is her son or daughter birthday, it is her daughter's quinceanera, she wants cosmetic surgery and needs your help, she needs bus or airfare to visit family, etc. In 9.5 out of 10 of these situations, these requests are mostly fabricated and you end up giving money that is used for her to party or buy drugs for herself or her boyfriend. Of all the bars that I have been to in the Coahuila, the girls from HK are the most professional and manipulative in working you out of your money. I also find that 8 out of 10 of these women are very jaded and hardened. Many have been screwed over by an ex husband or boyfriend who gave them children but then subsequently cheated on them and left them hanging to survive on their own without no financial support. As a result, many of them want no relationship whatsoever with a man and feel that they are winners when they can happily screw over a client by taking his money, kind of like getting their revenge. Another point I want to make is that if you start giving them money that it will never end, and it will never be enough! Also, many of these women have no clue regarding what it means to be appreciative, courteous, respectful. Or to display genuine empathy. They are void of having souls..
    Thank you for the very insightful explanation! I really enjoyed your explanation. 800-1200 a month actually seems like an understatement though because I imagine on a single Saturday these chicas may screw possibly 8-12 men which amounts to 800-1200 dollars in a single days work not including their collections from drinks and all the $1 bills they get when people fondle them. I imagine to replace their monthly earnings, it would be on the range of 4000-5000 which actually might be an underestimate be / see 4 Saturdays in a month already amounts to possibly $4000 and I'm sure these chicas work more than just Saturdays even if the non Saturdays are less productive.

  11. #15681

    Well said

    Quote Originally Posted by RikyMichaels7  [View Original Post]
    I believe that financial support falls into two categories. Supporting a puta who continues to work as a puta and supporting a puta that wants out of the business (in most cases these are relative newbies who hate the job). These are simply my opinions so don't blast the messenger here.

    Category 1: (supporting a puta in the business): These girls will typically ask for help with the rent when it is due. They will also often provide you with a myriad of sad situation stories where they request money. Examples include, her or any number of family members (mom, dad, cousin, friend, long lost friend) in the hospital or sick, she got in a car wreck and needs help in buying a new car, it is her son or daughter birthday, it is her daughter's quinceanera, she wants cosmetic surgery and needs your help, she needs bus or airfare to visit family, etc. In 9.5 out of 10 of these situations, these requests are mostly fabricated and you end up giving money that is used for her to party or buy drugs for herself or her boyfriend. Of all the bars that I have been to in the Coahuila, the girls from HK are the most professional and manipulative in working you out of your money. I also find that 8 out of 10 of these women are very jaded and hardened. Many have been screwed over by an ex husband or boyfriend who gave them children but then subsequently cheated on them and left them hanging to survive on their own without no financial support. As a result, many of them want no relationship whatsoever with a man and feel that they are winners when they can happily screw over a client by taking his money, kind of like getting their revenge. Another point I want to make is that if you start giving them money that it will never end, and it will never be enough! Also, many of these women have no clue regarding what it means to be appreciative, courteous, respectful. Or to display genuine empathy. They are void of having souls..
    I think Riky hit the nail on the head with this post. Agree completely. Category 1 is exactly right for most hardened pro HK chicas. No appreciation, no empathy, and their sob stories are false and really the money is going to her and her novio getting high or hitting the town for the night.

    Category 2 is accurate also, but I think most girls will want more than just 800 to 1200 per month if they already had experience working in the bars.

  12. #15680
    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    What are some of those reasons that you do not give money?
    Wrong question. What are the reasons to give money? Please enlighten us.

  13. #15679

    Financially Supporting a HK or Zona Chica

    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    Have any of you ever been fooled or roped into financially supporting an HK chica. How much did you give them? I hooked up with an HK chica a few times and she gives me sob stories of how she needs help with her bills. Never asked for any specific amount of money, but I was just curious what others have given if they actually got fooled into doing these financial donations or if they actually wanted to financially support an HK chica.
    I believe that financial support falls into two categories. Supporting a puta who continues to work as a puta and supporting a puta that wants out of the business (in most cases these are relative newbies who hate the job). These are simply my opinions so don't blast the messenger here.

    Category 1: (supporting a puta in the business): These girls will typically ask for help with the rent when it is due. They will also often provide you with a myriad of sad situation stories where they request money. Examples include, her or any number of family members (mom, dad, cousin, friend, long lost friend) in the hospital or sick, she got in a car wreck and needs help in buying a new car, it is her son or daughter birthday, it is her daughter's quinceanera, she wants cosmetic surgery and needs your help, she needs bus or airfare to visit family, etc. In 9.5 out of 10 of these situations, these requests are mostly fabricated and you end up giving money that is used for her to party or buy drugs for herself or her boyfriend. Of all the bars that I have been to in the Coahuila, the girls from HK are the most professional and manipulative in working you out of your money. I also find that 8 out of 10 of these women are very jaded and hardened. Many have been screwed over by an ex husband or boyfriend who gave them children but then subsequently cheated on them and left them hanging to survive on their own without no financial support. As a result, many of them want no relationship whatsoever with a man and feel that they are winners when they can happily screw over a client by taking his money, kind of like getting their revenge. Another point I want to make is that if you start giving them money that it will never end, and it will never be enough! Also, many of these women have no clue regarding what it means to be appreciative, courteous, respectful. Or to display genuine empathy. They are void of having souls.

    Category 2: (supporting a puta or newbie wanting out of the business): I find that many of these girls are actually genuine, decent women that have been dealt a bad hand with an ex as mentioned above. With kids and trying to make it. The problem for these women is that most of them do not have the equivalent of a high school education (preppa) and therefore can hardly ever find a job that will enable them to provide with an apartment, food, clothes, etc. I'm talking about not being able to find a job that makes more than 80.00 a week. Therefore, they revert to working in the bars as it is the only way they can make some more money. Many will work for fichas only, and still make more than any other job. However, the stigma of working in these bars, the drinking and the late hours, screwing strangers, takes it toll and many want out. The deal with a relationship with these girls is that, in order for them to leave the bar, you are going to have to fork over money for just about everything. Rent, food, clothes, children school, doctors, hospitals, hair extensions (LOL) and the list goes on and on. So my guess is anywhere from 800 - 1200 a month. And believe me, there will always be something that requires you to spend money.

    Bottom line is that we are dealing with women that live in Mexico, where opportunities to better oneself (especially a single mother) are often extremely difficult. Therefore, understand that you will be out of pocket any which way you slice and dice it.

  14. #15678

    Giiving Money to HK Chica's

    Quote Originally Posted by Hadez  [View Original Post]
    Have had two chicas in last week+ ask me to send money. I do not for a lot of reasons. Number 1 is I never get free sex from the girls who ask for money to be sent.
    What are some of those reasons that you do not give money?

  15. #15677

    HK Sunday

    HK was nice, clean. Not crowded, relaxed on Sunday. There were fewer girls but over half dozen were beautiful enough to classify as super model quality.

    Carolina was beautiful, all natural, pretty, nice, gentle, wholesome with a sweet smile. She was looking good, smelling good. She would have gone up with $80. I regret not taking her.

    The street scene has not been so good with cold weather. Tall, shapely Anais was working near HK's back door. She looks good enough to turn head on the streets of LOS Angeles. Elizabeth was at El Porton. She's a beautiful girl, nice, clean, pleasant. Tiffany was working, bright blonde hair, tight spinner body with smooth light skin, pretty face with big eyes and gull lips, looking like a doll. My wingman fell and love with her. Half a dozen spinners were hanging out in front of hotels Coahuila and Irma.

    Tijuana has good girls selections 24/7 in one block and very convenient. Food is spicy, tasty and cheap, over all a very nice town to hang out.

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