American Politics

[Tiny 12]

What as Matt Gaetz sympathizers? (...kkkk!)

"TROLLING", is this your way of showing defeat and ignominiously bowing out the debate? (...kkkk!)

Tiny 12, just because another ISGer, provides substantiated counterpoints, different POVs and arguments to your bothsider, neithersider rhetoric and your winger propaganda, doesn't mean that ISGer is a "TROLL".

If you're so thin skinned, or your delicate sensibilities have been hurt, in what you see as "TROLLING", because other ISGers has challenged your rhetoric, with valid credible counterpoints to your arguments, perhaps we can all petition Admin, on your soft sensitive emotional behalf, to have them rename the forum to, "Stupid Trolling in American Politics"? If you still think, we're all just "trolling" one another here?

BTW, you may want also consider, your own fraudulent, creepy and cringe-worthy behavior, as "TROLLING", when you disrespect and change another ISGers post, by inserting your own twisted hyperbole, into a quote they never wrote. Now that's "TROLLING"!

So Yeah...Tiny 12, if you or Elvis 2008, choose not to respond to my post, I promise you, I won't lose any sleep over it! (...kkkk!)

But you're NOT fooling anyone, by calling another ISGer, who challenges your debating rhetoric, with valid and credible counterpoints, as "TROLLING".

While you and Elvis 2008, have made your feelings clear about the candidacy of Matt Gaetz (or Pete Hegseth) for office with your sympathizing posts, about their alleged criminal behavior and sexual misconduct, being OKAY for office, I will continue to argue with counterpoints to their nomination and disqualification. Especially when you guys make such ludicrous comparisons with that of Hunter Biden, when in fact their criminal sexual behavior is more aligned and akin to the likes of pedo Jeffery Epstein.

You know all to well, that's just "weak sauce" from any so called debater. But, by all means, you Tiny 12, DO NOT NEED TO RESPOND to my debate arguments, as I have chosen many times, not to respond to your (or Elvis 2008's) rhetoric, WITHOUT fanfare and hyperbole.

And BTW, while I might call your post or Elvis 2008's posts something else, like Gish Gallop, a term use by a wonderful journalist, to aptly describe "Trump speak", I wouldn't necessarily call what you guys post in this America Politics forum, as "TROLLING". Well at least not yet!

So see ya, in the NEXT debate...OR NOT!

PS:

BTW, I do NOT consider it as "TROLLING", when YOU always feel the need in a debate to, "get in the last word", or argue every point feverishly, and exhibit a strange compulsion to desperately be the last one posting at nights, to the this forum or the Stupid Shit in Kyiv forum, as if to put your "stamp" on the debate, as "winning", because you got in, "the last word of the day"...right!

So while others may see such behavior, as "TROLLING" or creepy, I definitely DO NOT!. I know, it's just you, having the joy and love for the sport of debate, when providing your rhetoric, POVs and counterpoints, in a seemingly healthy, debate or exchange of opposing ideas...right!

Spidy, I am simply referring to references to p********* and the untrue accusation that Elvis and I defend and sympathize with p********s. As to a code of honor, it means that ISG'ers don't engage in that type of behavior. That is, we're not p********s.

[Spidy]

Respectfully maybe we should stop replying to Spidy. Anybody with half a brain knows the accusations he's leveling at you and me about p**** are ridiculous. However
it may just get us in trouble with Admin, and that kind of behavior is against the ISG code of honor.. So perhaps better to discuss other topics. "Don't feed the troll."

What as Matt Gaetz sympathizers? (...kkkk!)

"TROLLING", is this your way of showing defeat and ignominiously bowing out the debate? (...kkkk!)

Tiny 12, just because another ISGer, provides substantiated counterpoints, different POVs and arguments to your bothsider, neithersider rhetoric and your winger propaganda, doesn't mean that ISGer is a "TROLL".

If you're so thin skinned, or your delicate sensibilities have been hurt, in what you see as "TROLLING", because other ISGers has challenged your rhetoric, with valid credible counterpoints to your arguments, perhaps we can all petition Admin, on your soft sensitive emotional behalf, to have them rename the forum to, "Stupid Trolling in American Politics"? If you still think, we're all just "trolling" one another here?

BTW, you may want also consider, your own fraudulent, creepy and cringe-worthy behavior, as "TROLLING", when you disrespect and change another ISGers post, by inserting your own twisted hyperbole, into a quote they never wrote. Now that's "TROLLING"!

So Yeah...Tiny 12, if you or Elvis 2008, choose not to respond to my post, I promise you, I won't lose any sleep over it! (...kkkk!)

But you're NOT fooling anyone, by calling another ISGer, who challenges your debating rhetoric, with valid and credible counterpoints, as "TROLLING".

While you and Elvis 2008, have made your feelings clear about the candidacy of Matt Gaetz (or Pete Hegseth) for office with your sympathizing posts, about their alleged criminal behavior and sexual misconduct, being OKAY for office, I will continue to argue with counterpoints to their nomination and disqualification. Especially when you guys make such ludicrous comparisons with that of Hunter Biden, when in fact their criminal sexual behavior is more aligned and akin to the likes of pedo Jeffery Epstein.

You know all to well, that's just "weak sauce" from any so called debater. But, by all means, you Tiny 12, DO NOT NEED TO RESPOND to my debate arguments, as I have chosen many times, not to respond to your (or Elvis 2008's) rhetoric, WITHOUT fanfare and hyperbole.

And BTW, while I might call your post or Elvis 2008's posts something else, like Gish Gallop, a term use by a wonderful journalist, to aptly describe "Trump speak", I wouldn't necessarily call what you guys post in this America Politics forum, as "TROLLING". Well at least not yet!

So see ya, in the NEXT debate...OR NOT!

PS:

BTW, I do NOT consider it as "TROLLING", when YOU always feel the need in a debate to, "get in the last word", or argue every point feverishly, and exhibit a strange compulsion to desperately be the last one posting at nights, to the this forum or the Stupid Shit in Kyiv forum, as if to put your "stamp" on the debate, as "winning", because you got in, "the last word of the day"...right!

So while others may see such behavior, as "TROLLING" or creepy, I definitely DO NOT!. I know, it's just you, having the joy and love for the sport of debate, when providing your rhetoric, POVs and counterpoints, in a seemingly healthy, debate or exchange of opposing ideas...right!

[EihTooms]

If anyone can find a passage in this blithering, blathering, incoherent nonsense from Trump in this first post-Squeaker Handful of a Muslim Jihad Against America Election interview that suggests in any way that Trump is informed, intelligent, prepared and fit to serve as anything except perhaps as Liar-in-Chief for a Con Man Clinic, you deserve a cookie:

Read the full transcript: President-elect Donald Trump interviewed by "Meet the Press" moderator Kristen Welker.
Trump spoke with NBC News for more than an hour in an interview that covered a range of topics.
Dec. 9, 2024

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ent-rcna182857

I am telling you his only "plan" is to bluster, blather and complain for the next four years, coast on the terrific, Envy of the World Biden-Harris Economy he will inherit and play lots and lots and lots of golf, exactly as he did the first time around with the terrific Obama-Biden economy he inherited. And he will do that until he recognizes and seizes upon the opportunity to usher in and exacerbate another "Once in 100 Years Disaster" that only happen under Repub presidents and never under Dem presidents to exploit and blame on everyone else.

Whatever stray legislation or Executive Order he proposes and sticks will most certainly turn out to be a colossal addition to the deficit producing virtually no perceivable benefit to anyone but his already wealthy cronies.

He is the Unsolvable Mythical Grievances President for the Unsolvable Mythical Grievances MAGA Repub Party, a true modern-day blight and menace to economic success, national security and democratic freedom.

To the relative handful of angry Netanyahu-hating but already regretful Muslims in PA, MI and WI who "gave Trump the presidency" and the similarly-motivated MAGA Repubs around the country who squeaked out a razor-thin Plurality of the vote for him this time around, The Kremlin thanks you.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Muslim voters once abandoned the GOP. Now they may leave the Democrats.
Anger about Gaza helped Donald Trump win the most Arab American city in the country, while support for Kamala Harris was cut in half.
Nov. 10, 2024

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ats-rcna179304

Why do you doubt your lord and savior about this and now suddenly side with James 'Carnival'?

BTW, the numbers can not be refuted by anyone; less than a 115,000 vote swing from Harris to Trump or Trump to Harris spread over just three significantly Muslim-demo battleground / swing states would have and did decide the outcome of the presidential election, the exact states where Trump's new favorite political activist organization, Muslims for Trump, mobilized their anti-Biden-Harris ground game in order to "give him the presidency. ".

Has it not yet occurred to you that there is NO FUTURE JOB AND INCOME OPPORTUNITY for 'Carnival', Penn, Morris, et al to simply admit Harris or any other Dem candidate should have worked harder to explain how stupid and sure to be regretted the reasoning was behind any Muslims ever voting for Trump rather than blaming it on a vast array of complex Total Party issues that they and only they are brilliant enough to overhaul from top to bottom?.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/o...-politics.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/o...democrats.html

[Spidy]

In this case of Gaetz, the reason were the witnesses against him were unreliable, scummy people engaged in criminal activity.

The lawyer, Joel Leppard, who represented the two main young women, in the Matt Gaetz, House Ethics committee investigation, was very clear that, his clients testimonies had been very credible and had been verified by several other "party goers". Gaetz, knew this and made his withdrawal.

His withdrawal, definitely, was a sign of apparent guilt. I would have loved, to have seen, Matt Gaetz fight these alleged charges and make his case. But the reality is, he knew full well his history of such behavior was never going to pass muster, from a Senate hearing, who no doubt would be taking into account the findings from the House Ethics Committee report on his criminal deviant behavior and the very credible and damning testimonies from the those young women victims and witnesses.

House Repubs, block release of Gaetz Ethics Report, but the House Ethics committee (currently deadlocked), could still release the report, in a future Ethics Committee reincarnation, barring time restrictions (or statues of limitations) on some of the allegations. Which could suggest that elements of the report may contain criminal or civil prosecution?

Gaetz and Hegseth were investigated and not charged.

Not charged, but still guilty as fuck! But if he/they are so innocent, why not defend your case, and "have your day in court" or "face the music", as it were and prove your innocence, like Hunter Biden? No he ran, like a bitoch to Trump for a pardon (...kkkk)

Pity though, as I was so looking forward to pedo Gaetz, trying to talk himself, free and clear of such allegations, in highly televised Senate Confirmation Hearing.

However, if Hegseth does make it to a Senate Confirmation Hearing, is should be very interesting, how Hegseth, paid huge sums of money to make his sexual criminal conduct disappear, w/r to an NDA and the woman in the sexual rape case against him.

Let's not forget Hegseth's habitual intoxication and drunken stupors, drunken inappropriate groping of women workmates and drunken cries of "Kill all Muslims". Because naturally, you Elvis 2008 and Tiny 12, love defending and sympathizing with such deviant behavior, but Hunter Biden's dick pics and lying on a gun application (which should have a "slap on the wrist" offense), is somehow worse? (...kkkk)

[Xpartan]

Putin and Netanyahou are criminals and when war will stop around Israel, now new problem with new Syria, he will have big problems in Israel. Blind Russians have to wake up and get rid of Putin and then they will have a much better life, rather than 800000 dead.

Netanyahu might be a criminal, but, like you said, Israel will deal with him when the time comes. Just like you don't compare a pickpoket with a serial killer, you don't compare Netanyahu with Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot or Putin. That's just dumb, anti-Semitic or both.

[The Cane]

Hamas decimated. Hezbollah decimated. Assad overthrown. Iran on the back foot. Putin bogged down in Ukraine. At least there's good news emanating from other parts of the world!

[MarquisdeSade1]

Unfortunately, Harris lost all swinging states Biden had succeeded, quite weird. For our world, rather than what ask old senile fat Trump not knowing more than his Floridian golf, Russians should follow Syria example and get rid of Putin. This is time, when Russia lost power, they couldn't even help Al Assad and since nearly 3 years, were not able, fortunately, to defeat very weak Ukraine but who have balls to be able to defend versus big Russia. Get rid of Putin and stay home Trump when You are only good example for obesity in US.

Oprah sends a big thanks to you Cucks that sent her money LOLOLOL.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ja...11/id/1187596/

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/artic...t-the-election

[MarquisdeSade1]

Audi S5 V8 4. 2 32 valves is 354 power and 278 km / h with speed limit off, what I asked when I bought. When I m used to clean German autobahns almost weekly from Paris, as I wrote, I improved front drive and engine with now about 440 power, for aiming 300 km / h. I doubt You saw cars faster than 300 , when most Germans are lower than 150 km / h. On 2 lines, impossible to be more than 150 km / h faster than others, too dangerous. I tested with a truck which should be less than 100 , overtaking at 255 km / h, for that I stuck to left barreer and what a shock and noice on right window when I passed the big truck. For 300 which is much more difficult than 250 or even 275 , need at least 3 lines and one free between such speed and others, when so big difference, but I work hard to improve Audi, to pass 300 on GPS speed. This is European quality I m used to. I would also feel more safe in Airbus than in a US Boeing. Also french hands made Bugatti.

Driving in the center lane on the Autobahns around 160 km you can guess the speed of a larger passing car it makes your car move like a strong wind.

I have seen that happen many times only to surmise they must be going around 300 km or more? I couldn't see what kind of car it was just a blur but usually black).

I have driven up to 240 km on US highways many times so I do have a decent reference point not to mention I know how fast I was going when these maniacs would literally fly by and scare the shit out of me!!

They drive like this in Russia also, without the Autobahns, stay off the roads in Russia at night espec late on Friday and Saturday nights.

You wrote Mercedes uses some Renault engines LOL that is why the Mercedes brand is falling lololol.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Unfortunately, Harris lost all swinging states Biden had succeeded, quite weird. For our world, rather than what ask old senile fat Trump not knowing more than his Floridian golf, Russians should follow Syria example and get rid of Putin. This is time, when Russia lost power, they couldn't even help Al Assad and since nearly 3 years, were not able, fortunately, to defeat very weak Ukraine but who have balls to be able to defend versus big Russia. Get rid of Putin and stay home Trump when You are only good example for obesity in US.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/06/b...als-court.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/08/w...esistance.html

[EihTooms]

All Fake polls from the Fake News
https://nypost.com/2024/11/01/us-new...al-race-close/

I posted this when he said it.

And Bangkok Bob screamed BULLSHIT.

The vote counting done by Cook Political Reports, CNN, AP, NBC, etc has nothing to do with polls.

As of this writing, the count results for the national popular vote and, most importantly, for the only three Battleground / Swing States that determined whether Trump or Harris would be President-elect today are as follows:

Had less than 115,000 votes for Trump spread across those three States, PA, MI and WI, gone to Harris instead, Harris would be President-elect today instead of Trump.

Trump did not with the majority of the popular vote.

Trump won hundreds of thousands of votes less vs Harris than Clinton won MORE than Trump in 2016. And she LOST! LOL.

Trump won roughly a 1. 5 percentage point more of the popular vote than Harris and about that same amount or less across those three decisive Battleground / Swing States, where much if not most of their campaigning and ad spending took place.

However, on the polls, the consensus of polls was as accurate if not more so as they have ever been. Days before the election, they showed that the race was within a normal +/-MoE for either Trump or Harris to win and that is exactly what the final election result was.

BTW, from your link;.

His scorn also extended to all these GOP-leaning firms showing the former president narrowly ahead each time to project that theyre not going out too far on a limb.

Lolol. I laughed at your "Fake polls" rant then for the same reason I laugh at it now. Nate Silver was slamming Fake Trump-leaning polls trying to keep it closer than it was at the time, not supposedly Harris-leaning polls.

And in the end, unless those Trump-leaning polls had inside information on what less than. 115,000 angry Netanyahu-hating Muslims in PA, MI and WI would decide to do on November 5th as they shouted "Allahu Akbar" and sailed into those states' polling places, then Nate Silver was right; those Fake Trump-leaning polls were putting their fingers on the scale for their boy.

[Sirioja]

In USA, even I would vote for democrats for health insurance for everybody, at least all those working and their family wife and children, but I don t care much if Democrats or Republicans when not my country, but always bullshiting senile fat Trump is not good for a peaceful world. Same like Putin and Netanyahou. I m afraid Ukraine should not be helped much by Trump, when Putin already stole Crimea and try now for Georgia Caucase and even Romania. Dombas is a bit complex, when mix of Russians and Ukrainians, but no reason to be stolen by Putin. Maybe fair elections? Not fucked by Putin, to decide, under United Nations control, when Putin make noise like a dog with postman, but even numerous, but his army is weak. Obvious after almost 3 years versus very weak, but very courageous Ukraine.

[Sirioja]

Correction. They used to "deserve" their country. They blew their chance in 1948. They said no, we want it all. They said we'll throw Israel into the sea. They started a war and lost it. Then another war and lost it. And another one (and lost it too). Then they turned to terrorism. When you're waging one war after another and blow people up, when you rape, torture and murder innocent civilians, when you mutilate corpses so that even their gender can't be determined, when you cut out fetuses out of the bellies of pregnant women, when you burn children and their parents alive, you lose all the fucking rights you might've had once in history. Every one of them.

Tough fucking luck.

When most Palestinians are so poor, easy for Hamas to make them becoming martyrs for Islam, but give them a real country for a good life, same like Israel, and Hamas will lose power to find terrorists. Most Palestinians are not terrorists, but desperate to try to survive.

[Sirioja]

Correction. They used to "deserve" their country. They blew their chance in 1948. They said no, we want it all. They said we'll throw Israel into the sea. They started a war and lost it. Then another war and lost it. And another one (and lost it too). Then they turned to terrorism. When you're waging one war after another and blow people up, when you rape, torture and murder innocent civilians, when you mutilate corpses so that even their gender can't be determined, when you cut out fetuses out of the bellies of pregnant women, when you burn children and their parents alive, you lose all the fucking rights you might've had once in history. Every one of them.

Tough fucking luck.

Putin and Netanyahou are criminals and when war will stop around Israel, now new problem with new Syria, he will have big problems in Israel. Blind Russians have to wake up and get rid of Putin and then they will have a much better life, rather than 800000 dead.

[Sirioja]

But I don't think an Audi S5 can do 300 km I have been on the Autobahn many times, near Dusseldorf and see cars blow by in that left lane doing at least 300 km and I seriously doubt any are Audi S8's.

Audi S5 V8 4. 2 32 valves is 354 power and 278 km / h with speed limit off, what I asked when I bought. When I m used to clean German autobahns almost weekly from Paris, as I wrote, I improved front drive and engine with now about 440 power, for aiming 300 km / h. I doubt You saw cars faster than 300 , when most Germans are lower than 150 km / h. On 2 lines, impossible to be more than 150 km / h faster than others, too dangerous. I tested with a truck which should be less than 100 , overtaking at 255 km / h, for that I stuck to left barreer and what a shock and noice on right window when I passed the big truck. For 300 which is much more difficult than 250 or even 275 , need at least 3 lines and one free between such speed and others, when so big difference, but I work hard to improve Audi, to pass 300 on GPS speed. This is European quality I m used to. I would also feel more safe in Airbus than in a US Boeing. Also french hands made Bugatti.