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[Member #1088]

Everyone is welcome to their opinion but for clarity:

My post represents searches done over the last 7 days.

My Search age range was 18 to 28. I didn't consider or even view anyone older.

I found about 50% of those that I found attractive unblocked and got the contacts for the vast majority of these. The remainder were indeed blocked as 'Popular' but I've just kept their details for use later when I have a paid membership.

I'm sure that we find different girls attractive but I disagree that ALL the young and attractive girls are blocked. I certainly found it very easy to get the details of a good number with an unpaid membership. That's why I wrote the post.

One thing that I didn't emphasize in the post was that girls are both blocked and unblocked as popularity wanes. That's why it's important to record separately the contact details of an unblocked girl before your chats and her details become hidden. Conversely I Favorited several blocked Popular girls who could later be contacted as they became unblocked.

Best of luck with your Searches. G.

The first one in the list, is a good one. She now knows foreigner man, when I spoke with her a few months ago she didn't have any experience, I just spoke with her again and she told me she had 2 foreigners one from uk and one from Germany I think. Too bad it wasnt me, the schedule of travel didn't work for me when I went there.

If you can get her priv pics, I would like to see them LOL LOL (the one that got away). here is the capture from her skype

Good luck with her.

[Goferring]

This kills me. Are these chicks fucking retarded? Whenever they do that I just stop talking to them.

It depends on whose definition you accept. The PIs average IQ of 85 could be considered either 'Retarded' or 'Mentally Subnormal'. I'd agree that the average Internet Hooker could well be significantly below these ranges. 😁.

https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html

Queque the outraged PC brigade. 🤓.

[PedroMorales]

Its owners flag a lot of women as premium meat only, ie you must buy a package to chat with them. Often if you click on a woman's pictures, when you go back to her profile, she is Premium only. To circumvent this.

1. Open in new tab all women you are interested. Call these women A, B, C. You now have four tabs open: PL, A, B, C.

2. To view A's pictures, right click A into a new tab. You now have five tabs open: PL, A, B, C, A's pictures.

3. View A's pictures under the the fifth tab. Then return that tab to A's profile to contact A.

4. If A is now marked as premium (or if A was originally marked as premium), return the fifth tab to PL and contact someone else you may or may not be interested in. Proceed until you can send a message, let's say to the.

5. Now refresh the A tab. It will start counting down the 10 minutes to your next free message.

[Goferring]

Its all correct what you say. But sadly since a month or so they only allow non paid mebers to communicate for free with the older ladies--30 up. All the young and attractive ones require a premium mebership to communicate with.

Everyone is welcome to their opinion but for clarity:

My post represents searches done over the last 7 days.

My Search age range was 18 to 28. I didn't consider or even view anyone older.

I found about 50% of those that I found attractive unblocked and got the contacts for the vast majority of these. The remainder were indeed blocked as 'Popular' but I've just kept their details for use later when I have a paid membership.

I'm sure that we find different girls attractive but I disagree that ALL the young and attractive girls are blocked. I certainly found it very easy to get the details of a good number with an unpaid membership. That's why I wrote the post.

One thing that I didn't emphasize in the post was that girls are both blocked and unblocked as popularity wanes. That's why it's important to record separately the contact details of an unblocked girl before your chats and her details become hidden. Conversely I Favorited several blocked Popular girls who could later be contacted as they became unblocked.

Best of luck with your Searches. G.

[Amadeuss]

I used Pina Love because I'm most familiar with it but all the others would be similar.

Hopefully some guys with out paid memberships will find this useful.

G.

Its all correct what you say. But sadly since a month or so they only allow non paid mebers to communicate for free with the older ladies--30 up. All the young and attractive ones require a premium mebership to communicate with.

Date in Asia remains the only full free dating site -- although it can be annoying with their kick-off policy.

[Mr Enternational]

First message asks for contact info and I also get about a 90% response rate. (Several just saying yes with no number. These go down the list as actual companions vs just a fuck.).

This kills me. Are these chicks fucking retarded? Whenever they do that I just stop talking to them.

[Wicked Roger]

Finally, my rule is to immediately drop any girl who asks for money, just about unlimited time on this up until we have met but we all have had the following conversations.

You: Hi, This is Kabul Guy from <Tinder, PL, SA How are you today?

Her: I have trouble.

You: What kinds of troubles?

Her: Granny sick, nephew needs school, fees, I cannot pay my electric.

You: <block .

To that add.

1. can't go to school (don't ask why!

2. Typhoon has destroyed roof (check if she lives in the rea of the typhoon please, check it was a typhoon only very heavy rain.

3. I can't chat much with you as my mobile is broken. The screen needs replacing / battery won't charge fast / I am only borrowing to chat to.

Plenty more.

[Kabul Guy]

A couple comments on Goferring's long and very informative post.

I follow this plan usually in my contacts, no matter what the site. First message asks for contact info and I also get about a 90% response rate. (Several just saying yes with no number. These go down the list as actual companions vs just a fuck.).

Pictures with identifiable Manila or Philippine backgrounds helps. Think the Globe at MoA, the airport showing some Cebu Pacific or other uniquely Philippine signs, a major mall entrance etc.

Also have a Philippine number for your WhatsApp and Viber.

Show that you have been here before, show that you know the lay of the land, when you ask where she is from, never say where is that, google it and make a comment on something there or near by.

The girls are sick of guys logging in from overseas, with no intention of actually meeting and just wanting naked video chats and pictures.

Finally, my rule is to immediately drop any girl who asks for money, just about unlimited time on this up until we have met but we all have had the following conversations.

You: Hi, This is Kabul Guy from <Tinder, PL, SA How are you today?

Her: I have trouble.

You: What kinds of troubles?

Her: Granny sick, nephew needs school, fees, I cannot pay my electric.

You: <block .

[Goferring]

I delve into their site occasionally but they are now killing the goose that lays no eggs by saying you must buy a subscription to talk to perhaps 30% of their base. The minimum subscription is $25 or so for a month.

I usually open several profiles at a time to decide who to respond to. Now, when I open profiles A, B, C, before I can choose A, it switches to say A is premium only. I would love to know how many pay up to get a hooker's digits. At this rate, they'll be the only ones left. I guess it must make business sense.

After reading a few posts like those above about the sites becoming less productive to unpaid members and the applicable access restrictions becoming a PITA I decided to have a look for myself.

Full disclosure: this is not a post about how I met 1000 chicks, fucked them all sideways and am now heading home. It's how I logged on as a unpaid member (my membership expired soon after returning home from my last trip), worked within the site's unpaid members' restrictions, sorted the accessible from the inaccessible 'Popular' girls and got the WA or Viber numbers for virtually all that I found attractive and built up a list of 'Popular' girls that I find gorgeous and can contact when I'm in country and activate my membership. I haven't written about converting contact numbers into fucks because that's unchanged from being a fully paid up member, been written about extensively in the forum many times and, I'm not yet back in the Philippines.

I used Pina Love because I'm most familiar with it but all the others would be similar.

Hopefully some guys with out paid memberships will find this useful.

Settings. Set your location to Manila to be widely attractive. Be prepared to say where you stayed last trip, are likely to return to next visit and that you have just left. Mine was a popular Shopping Precinct in Makati. Have an appealing profile showing what interests you in the Philippines and where you like to travel to.

Have your Search settings set to ages only. Many girls have no or incorrect location details so don't exclude them. Use 'Any' country and city. If someone is attractive you can ask where she is but if you specify only Manila girls you will miss those that have no or another location in their profile. Leave it totally open.

Time restrictions mean that you cannot send many messages and need to make them count. Girls will not wait 2 hours to have an interrupted conversation about how you like puppies and want to stay near the beach.

I only scanned the first page of girls online as I knew they were active and more likely to respond. I never messaged someone while they were offline. If I found someone attractive, I Favourited them for future reference and messaged, asking if they had a Viber or WA number. This was my first comment and got a 90% response rate with the number. It amused me that several replies were just a 'yes' and I had to ask again what the number actually was. I guess for some mearly having a viber account is a discussion point in itself. 4 asked if I was in Manila and I replied truthfully that I've returned home but am a frequent visitor, listed where I had been and where I normally stay in one chat. All replied with their number after 2 to 3 chats: important when sending individual messages is so time consuming.

While waiting for the messaging time limit to expire I would rescan the first page and Favourite more girls I found attractive. The messaging process would continue for those that were not Popular and could be contacted. Those that were Popular I just kept on file for future reference when I'm in country and / or activate my account.

I chose to Favorite vs Show Interest as I can unFavourite if I no longer need a reference of the girl's profile. Interest cannot be rescinded nor removed.

Once a girls number is received it should be put into a contact list ASAP. There are several reasons for the time urgency. Many girls shut or have blocked their accounts. When this happens your chats and her numbers within them are lost. WA and Viber profile photos are generally changed frequently and much more up to date than the most flattering ones on the dating sites. Use them to double check if she is still attractive. The busy girls delete their profile pictures to slow down the inrush when their inbox becomes overwhelming. If you haven't saved her details its easy to lose track of her. Many girls will discuss much more sensitive subjects on the one to one platforms rather than the web sites.

Now it is just the normal process of converting the numbers into meetings and, hopefully, productive sessions. Everyone has their own methods of doing this but personally, I don't even bother about chatting generally until I'm actually in country (even better in town).

Sure there will be the normal flakes and no shows but this process quickly delivers 100 numbers of attractive girls. I'd say that there are plenty of very attractive and willing girls that are not restricted with the Popular label, especially amongst those with no or incorrect locations in their profiles.

It also give a record of multiple very attractive girls that can be reached once membership is activated if they are needed.

In many ways I found this more productive than having open access from a paid up account. Blindly sending out 100 messages is not an option, so focusing on those that I found truly attractive and chatting when they were most likely to respond really paid dividends.

Its certainly more work than walking into a point and shoot bar but for those that enjoy the online girls it may be a good option.

Enjoy. G.

[X Man]

Online profile says, "Wasting a good woman, it's like you wasting diamond".

I'll give her a point for using English, although she may have just copied it. It just strikes me as such a silly analogy that I had to share it. How does one waste a diamond? (Horrific song by Beyonce comes to mind).

X.

[Goferring]

Even flying in to Clark or watching the crowd at Clark airport there are simply not that many single guys visiting. For the last week my experience in Angeles was there are not too many foreigners right now, probably a bit of low season. As previously mentioned the obvious exception are Koreans.

The same can be said of the geographical area given over to hunting. Walking Street et al represents a very small proportion of AC's land.

[PedroMorales]

But still as an engineer and therefore a number's guy I like to know the real stats and the method behind the definition of the categories and the numbers.

Yes I am a nerd LOL.

Shouldn't be that hard but plane arrivals is hardly the metric. Take hotel accommodation in Angeles / Makati etc. Subtract retirees. Work out average stay. The monger money is substantial in a few areas but of little value outside of those areas, except for remittances.

Pampanga is a revenue generating area. That can be seen by money changers and businesses that send money back to the provinces. Look also at other businesses that cater for the monger. Much easier to do in Pattaya with its wall to wall bars showing sports Thais have no interest in.

[Kabul Guy]

As I have said before, just look around on your flights in and out of PI. Usually I am the only one that could be considered as such. Sometimes there may be 1 or 2 other single guys. Usually if I see any foreigner at all then he is older and attached to a Filipina chick that he has been married to for 40 years. Most people on the flights are families or locals that live overseas and are going home to visit. On the flight from Bangkok it is usually Filipinos that have been to Thailand for vacation. I don't know who is telling those lies about sex tourism. Maybe those are mongers that are so wrapped up that they have confused mongering with real life. You don't even have to get on a flight; just look around in the lobby of the airport. You would hardly see anyone that could be pegged as a monger.

As in a lot of areas most people who generate these sorts of statistics have something to prove or gain from them.

An anti sex trafficking organization will inflate the numbers significantly, to secure funding from do gooder organizations to combat the traffic. After a few years they deflate the numbers to show how great they are then pull the same stunt in another city using their own false statistics as "proof" of how good they really are.

I am not much of one for the bars on Burgos or similar places but usually see more girls than mongers any time I am there, so I tend to agree with your assessment. I do see more guys with a long term girl, usually easy to tell by how easy they relate and how comfortable they are with each other, or the presence of family members than single guys on the hunt.

But still as an engineer and therefore a number's guy I like to know the real stats and the method behind the definition of the categories and the numbers.

Yes I am a nerd LOL.

[Kagino0]

Even flying in to Clark or watching the crowd at Clark airport there are simply not that many single guys visiting. For the last week my experience in Angeles was there are not too many foreigners right now, probably a bit of low season. As previously mentioned the obvious exception are Koreans.

[Engine Driver]

As I have said before, just look around on your flights in and out of PI. Usually I am the only one that could be considered as such. Sometimes there may be 1 or 2 other single guys. Usually if I see any foreigner at all then he is older and attached to a Filipina chick that he has been married to for 40 years. Most people on the flights are families or locals that live overseas and are going home to visit. On the flight from Bangkok it is usually Filipinos that have been to Thailand for vacation. I don't know who is telling those lies about sex tourism. Maybe those are mongers that are so wrapped up that they have confused mongering with real life. You don't even have to get on a flight; just look around in the lobby of the airport. You would hardly see anyone that could be pegged as a monger.

When I leave my country for the Philippines, on the plane there is usually only one or two single guys whom I would consider as a monger. As you correctly point out, the plane is full of Filipino families (and their cardboard boxes of foreign food and shit) going home to visit their relatives.

The obvious group of tourists you can pick out as coming to the Philippines purely for mongering are the young Korean jocks in their 20's. Everyone else disguises their visit as business, golf, diving or charity work.

Regarding KG's comment on numbers of mongers, it would be impossible to determine as no one is going to admit it.