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  1. #1092

    Sa j*

    So. Here is some more intel on the girl that I referenced in my previous posts:

    * her SA profile is run by an agent.

    * her agent runs 2 other profiles (different girls). When coronavirus hit. #3 girl became orphaned.

    * girl #2 profile is randomly getting less login activity (Flower_Lili).

    * her agent was in Austria in Jan-Mar, until coronavirus hit, according to SA activity information.

    * During that time, those 3 profiles were always originating from Austria, which confirmed it was run by an agent.

    * If you got her whatsapp number, and it ends in "37" (27 Mar. 2020 status update time), then that number is run by the agent. It is unknown if the agent cycles through numbers. Just a guess.

    * if the number ends in "60", then it's her (Jenny real) "working"/ secondary physical phone / number. Whatsapp only. This number is not UA.

    * if the number ends in "43", then it's her (Jenny real) private / main / iphone pro phone number. Telegram / viber / whatsapp. This number is UA (calling code 380).

    * Her email address username ends in "697", on gmail.

    * Her date of birth & age on SA is real. Physical height is not (it's 160 cm). And weight wise, she's 44 kg, if anyone is interested. Very fit / health conscious girl.

    * She created a facebook profile 1 week after coronavirus hit. Just as she created it, facebook recommended me her profile, hence I discovered it. I guess her facebook profile is to find local / native customers. After 2 months, she decided to hide the friends list, heh. Her friends list was very weird, which confirmed she was on the lookout for native customers. Her 2 real friends were eventually connected. Her personal trainer is not a "friend".

    * Around the same time, she moved to a new apartment complex called "New England" (Nova Anglia). Not sure if she bought the apartment (it's only like 100 K? USD for a 40 m2 apartment) or is renting it.

    * Her instagram profile has around 4900 followers, not 6 K as someone else mentioned. Fortunately I was lucky to find this profile without that guy's help.

    * With my primary instagram account, I decided to follow her instagram profile. Within 1 hour, I was blocked. (my instagram profile was bare so it looked like a bot / spam account). So she's very protective of her instagram account.

    * My secondary / snooping instagram account was eventually blocked 3 months later, but never followed her. It was even more bare. So it looks like my account was eventually suggested to her, she decided to do a fresh mass (50 account) follow and decided to blocked my account.

    * based on her instagram profile, she has 2 close friends. She did have a 3rd friend (most likely ex-housemate, before she moved? This 3rd friend also visited the same country (and used her same escort photos) where I originally met Jenny. I asked Jenny back in Aug 2019 if she was in Paris, and she was like "no, agent using photos" but in fact it was her friend! I only realized this when I made the connection with the instagram profile posts with this friend.

    * randomly in her instagram stream, she posted "learning how to be a web developer" posts. At first, I thought she was falling on hard times, and deciding to change careers, but then I realized. She's only looking for customers as web developers in Ukraine are very well paid.

    * Her asking price is the same as without the agent. So I wonder how much of a cut the agent takes. Then again, it's probably cheap to live in Kyiv.

    * Last week, it looked like she had an encounter with a native customer. Come Monday, her instagram profile was shutdown (mostly likely temporarily disabled by her, then re-enabled after 4-5 days). After that, she decided to keep a very low profile with only 2 updates. I wonder if that customer learnt she was useless in terms of personality and eventually service, hence her reaction of her instagram profile.

    So. I decided to communicate with "her" on SA. Eventually "she" contacted me on whatsapp. And the first message was "Hi. This is Jenny" (English variation of her real native name), then sending me 10 mostly new photos, then asking "could you send me your photos?" Not sure what the agent expects when the border is pretty much shut.

  2. #1091
    Quote Originally Posted by TinyHippo  [View Original Post]
    Please remember 90% of the images are fake for girls under 25.
    Depends on the agency and means of communication.

    In general Web sucks because it is significantly more static, and takes too much of an effort to keep it current. These days many agencies send pictures via Viber and WhatsApp that are Photoshoped to various degrees of beautification and distortion. Some agency dispatchers do a good job via Viber providing current pictures better reflecting reality.

    I had one consolidation agency where at least 80% of the pictures were real, and half of those gave a relatively good representation of the commodities advertised. Thus 40% were true.

    It is not my duty to sample every possible outlet in Kiev, and gather stats along the way. Seems 90% number is arbitrary though. Why not 200%.

    Took me time to find that consolidation agency, and enforce certain personal rules with them. Unlike many websites, their Viber worked great for me. But sometimes they had no pictures at all and didn't lie about it, going like this:

    - We have a new girl. Today is her first day, and there are no pictures yet. Would you like to sample?

    - What are the parameters?

    - How much?

    - 1900+200.

    - I always give 100 for taxi. How soon can she be here?

    - OK, 2000 for you total. 30-45 minutes, we'll message you when she gets into the car.

    - Thank you. What is her address?

    - Velyka Zhitomirska.

    - I'll be waiting. Do you have my street address, and remember the drill downstairs?

    - Certainly. Will talk to you soon.

    They did switch girls, I would say 25% I had a different one delivered, and if she was up to my standards, I kept her.

    I am talking about August-September of 2019, not 3-4 years ago. I know that you, TinyHippo, visited Ukraine in 2019.

  3. #1090
    Quote Originally Posted by TinyHippo  [View Original Post]
    Please remember 90% of the images are fake for girls under 25.
    Closer to 99.9% are fake.

  4. #1089
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterRochi  [View Original Post]
    Its insane the quality of these girls, a lot of these girls in kievintim, if they walk around in America, they are supermodels. Yet they are making themselves available for $100 an hour or less. That's insane.
    Please remember 90% of the images are fake for girls under 25.

  5. #1088

    Wow, price is so cheap

    Its insane the quality of these girls, a lot of these girls in kievintim, if they walk around in America, they are supermodels. Yet they are making themselves available for $100 an hour or less. That's insane.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItTravel  [View Original Post]
    I think most sites in English (only in English are just Tourist Traps).

    Here a site usually with real pics:
    http://www.kievintim.com/

    An advertising site for independent workers (I know some pics from independent ads in flirt) The thing here is that even if the site is not so well done the operator is speaking English and will send you the girl you ask or another the classical standard procedure:

    You phone, you ask; they phone the girl, then thy phone back usually in 10 minutes. The girls normally are really on time. The photos are home made and usually real. The prices may vary but they are the standard you get by mail in flirt with some extra for the broker service (not an agency the girls pay a monthly fee to be there like on www.intimcity.ru)

    There is also:
    http://www.uakisski.com/

    But here its in Russian, cheaper and some more variety. The telephone are personal ones and usually the girls speak only Russian/Ukranian, but you can get one for the night starting at 250 USD up to 400 depending on girl and service (anal BBBJ etc). Also here usually the pics are real and not photo shopped.

    On flirt ( www.flirt.com.ua ), in my opinion the best internet source hundreds of girls in Kiev between 18 and 25, usually with real photos, only one bad experience, tried several (and you can even fuck for free, just presents and restaurants but of course in that case nothing is guaranteed).

  6. #1087
    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy21  [View Original Post]
    A few days after our meeting she was off the site, I was surprised because we talked of spending multiple days together in my favorite Ukrainian city Dnepro. Hopefully, she'll return.
    Sometimes KEC girls are off-site because of travel. They disappear and then return back. On the other hand sometimes management promises the girl will return and she never does. Free market regulates preferences.

  7. #1086

    Gia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimm987  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I will visit Kiev for 2 days. Which actual girl from GIA (KEC, VC) could you recommend me? Dasha, Erica, Lana Margo, Marina, Melissa or some other? They have nice pictures.
    I spend a lot of time in Ukraine but very little time in Kiev; as a result, whenever I'm in Kiev, my time is limited so I contact gia. Since 2014 I've seen somewhere between 15 to 20 gia girls. I was in Kiev 3 weeks ago and spent time with two gia girls, Lana and Nina, the latter of which is no longer on the site. I spent 10 hours with Lana and found her to be extremely pleasant, a very sweet girl, who thoroughly enjoys her job and sex. I spent 6 hours with Nina, she is an escort who I had my eye on for sometime. For me, having sex with her was very intense, just the way I like it. She wraps her legs around you and really gets into it. A few days after our meeting she was off the site, I was surprised because we talked of spending multiple days together in my favorite Ukrainian city Dnepro. Hopefully, she'll return.

  8. #1085
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    Lately the consensus on the Forum about KEC seems to state that it is too expensive and quality is not guaranteed. It wasn't assured before, during the GIA days either, but it is significantly worse now after changeover of management in the summer 2017.
    There's a lot of talent involved in being a good agency pimp. When the corrupt police pushed out the former Gia management, a serious drop in quality was to be expected.

    If Kiev can't clean up such a blatantly dirty system, they'll never clean anything up.

  9. #1084

    GIA-KEC request from MeGuy and Jimm987

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimm987  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I will visit Kiev for 2 days. Which actual girl from GIA (KEC, VC) could you recommend me? Dasha, Erica, Lana Margo, Marina, Melissa or some other? They have nice pictures.
    Lately the consensus on the Forum about KEC seems to state that it is too expensive and quality is not guaranteed. It wasn't assured before, during the GIA days either, but it is significantly worse now after changeover of management in the summer 2017.

    There are some wealthy KEC customers, perhaps they can explain which girls are trustworthy. It does depend on the consumer (you) services preference though.

  10. #1083
    Quote Originally Posted by Meguy  [View Original Post]
    Hey,

    I'm new here and heading to Kiev in a few days. I keep seeing gia kec and Vc. Where can I get the website or contact info? I can't find it anywhere.
    https://kievescort.club/

    Used to be called GIA about 18 months ago.

  11. #1082

    Kiev

    Hi,

    I will visit Kiev for 2 days. Which actual girl from GIA (KEC, VC) could you recommend me? Dasha, Erica, Lana Margo, Marina, Melissa or some other? They have nice pictures.

  12. #1081
    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy21  [View Original Post]
    Yes, you're correct, and that's most certainly a minus, but her skills at oral sex more than make up for this negative. I should make a few corrections, Gia has been around for about 20 years, the first time I used them was 2001, I am not really a steady customer of Gia, but more of an occasional user of this agency, maybe once or twice a year. And Polina wasn't that bad, it's just from her stellar reviews I was expecting a Liza like performance, but instead it was more of a blase' type experience similar to Marta. This leads me to question the validity of the reviews posted on the Gia site.
    Hey,

    I'm new here and heading to Kiev in a few days. I keep seeing gia kec and Vc. Where can I get the website or contact info? I can't find it anywhere.

  13. #1080

    Marta

    Quote Originally Posted by TinyHippo  [View Original Post]
    Marta has been 20 for a couple years on the website. She is probably 25 and worn out by now. I really liked my time with Maya over a year ago, but I am sure my experience would be a lot different now. She has probably been worn down too.
    Yes, you're right, she has been on the site for several years; maybe 4 or so. I think she was born in '95 or maybe '96, I spent a day with her about three years ago, nothing real memorable about this experience at all, but I do remember that she's a big girl, I am 178 cms, and she appeared much taller than me, she's a big healthy girl, no doubt about that.

  14. #1079

    Liza

    Quote Originally Posted by TeFab456  [View Original Post]
    Had a look at Liza's service list. It appears she doesn't offer CIM, right?
    Yes, you're correct, and that's most certainly a minus, but her skills at oral sex more than make up for this negative. I should make a few corrections, Gia has been around for about 20 years, the first time I used them was 2001, I am not really a steady customer of Gia, but more of an occasional user of this agency, maybe once or twice a year. And Polina wasn't that bad, it's just from her stellar reviews I was expecting a Liza like performance, but instead it was more of a blase' type experience similar to Marta. This leads me to question the validity of the reviews posted on the Gia site.

  15. #1078

    Liza

    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy21  [View Original Post]
    I have been a steady customer of Gia since 2014,4 girls currently on site who I've spent time with, Liza, Marta, Polina and Vika, by far the best was Liza, she was absolutely incredible, Polina was a hugh disappointment, Marta nothing really special, in my opinion her photos look much better than real life, Vika a total disaster, didn't like her attitude sent her home after 30 minutes.
    Had a look at Liza's service list. It appears she doesn't offer CIM, right?

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