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  1. #459
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Generally, I think the quality of food available in Centro Historico is excellent. Loads of great restaurants in a very small area. All walkable.
    My hotel gave me a list of restaurants they recommended. In addition, you always have resources like Tripadvisor reviews. With today's transparency, it seems pretty easy to find decent places to eat in tourist destinations.

  2. #458
    Quote Originally Posted by Orgasmico  [View Original Post]
    I ate some great food in SM! You're more brave than me, as I don't eat off the street.
    Generally, I think the quality of food available in Centro Historico is excellent. Loads of great restaurants in a very small area. All walkable.

  3. #457

    Illness. Just a little perspective

    Just a little perspective on all the stories of illnesses in Sta Marta.

    I stayed there 2 months. I ate at many different restaurants; I never stopped to consider if the food was washed with potable water etc. I made myself a couple of cups of coffee using unpotable tap water and a microwave every day. I did not get sick once. However, I did wake up w a hangover a few times. .

    Luck might have played a little part, but also if you are going to eat animal products, the chances are much higher that you will get sick, considering the very frequent black outs. I am vegan so I never run that risk. Just the low chance that there may be trace faeces from meat eater food on my veggies. F*ckn bast*DS! .

    So it's not all doom and gloom. Some of us survived without illness.

  4. #456
    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMorgan  [View Original Post]
    Me. Fuck was I sick. Had to call one of the emergency medical services to come to my apartment. They were there in 30 minutes and hooked me up with an intravenous solution. They knew right away what it was that got me. Shrimp cocktail from one of the street vendors. It tooks 3-4 days to get somewhat back to normal.
    I ate some great food in SM! You're more brave than me, as I don't eat off the street.
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  5. #455

    Getting sick.

    Me. Fuck was I sick. Had to call one of the emergency medical services to come to my apartment. They were there in 30 minutes and hooked me up with an intravenous solution. They knew right away what it was that got me. Shrimp cocktail from one of the street vendors. It tooks 3-4 days to get somewhat back to normal. I have had no other problems with getting sick here in S. M. Nor my girlfriend.

  6. #454
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    If your looking for nice sand beaches, etc. In Santa Marta they aren't so great, better to go to Rodaleo and take the ferry to a nearby by beach I forgot the name of it. Plenty of places to chill and have a beer along the Malecon in Santa Marta and along the beach in Rodaleo. However, it is hot there and the water is not clear and inviting like in the Dominican Republic. So if your looking for spectacular beaches you should go there. Even at Parque Tyrona there are some nice beaches but it's a pain to get there and expensive to enter as a foreigner. However, if you like seafood, and hopefully don't get sick, Santa Marta has the DR beat hands down in this regards.
    And there are sme super beaches on the other side of Sta Marta too. In Pqe Tayrona. And some other smaller and more ordinary ones around Taganga.

  7. #453

    Parasite Update.

    Quote Originally Posted by BKKguru  [View Original Post]
    Well said. In Medicine, one size does not fit all. Many times, Doctors find the medicine which will work for YOU, by trial and error.
    Probiotics do help a lot of people. But this discussion was about Parasites, not bacterial infections.

    I learnt a few things in this thread. Good info which the consummate traveler can use.

    ~BKKguru
    I started this thread and I never envisioned such a discussion would ensue. Regardless of whether the thread was about parasites, some of the symptoms of a bacterial infection can be similar to parasites, therefore it's good for all of us to get educated on the different things we can come down with while travelling in this region.

    I went to the Doctor last Thursday and was diagnosed with parasites based solely on my symptoms. I took the medicines on Thursday and Friday, and guess what all symptoms disappeared by the weekend.

  8. #452
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    Anyway. Point being, don't assume one treatment fits all. Treatments for parasites are very different than for bacterial infections, and within those categories the drugs for each type are very different. And viruses another thing altogether. Basically no antibiotic works for them. So get a proper diagnoses.
    Well said. In Medicine, one size does not fit all. Many times, Doctors find the medicine which will work for YOU, by trial and error.
    Probiotics do help a lot of people. But this discussion was about Parasites, not bacterial infections.

    I learnt a few things in this thread. Good info which the consummate traveler can use.

    ~BKKguru

  9. #451
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    Not going to help you. And I am a doctor.
    Funny since it has helped me many times before. The first time I had no idea what it was and I had the runs about 18 times a day for like 6 weeks. I had lost plenty of weight before I finally went to the doctor. She told me about the probiotic that I could buy over the counter at the pharmacy. It cleared up in 2 days. That was 14 years ago. Ever since, I have kept some in my toiletry bag and whenever it happens I take them and it fixes it right away. Maybe you are a doctor of philosophy.

  10. #450
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    ...I am not doctor, but even I know to carry probiotic with me in case I run into some bad bacteria...
    Not going to help you. And I am a doctor.

  11. #449
    CNN travel with a med team, don't compare them to yourselves, they know what they are doing, and moreover they don't eat ass, LOL, on those episodes.

  12. #448
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Why not? I am not doctor, but even I know to carry probiotic with me in case I run into some bad bacteria. But you described the food being cooked over a wood fire. So once that is heated past a certain temp, the bacteria are killed anyway. It is the uncooked stuff like salad and water that one must be careful of.
    A lot of the time the problem is not the food itself. It is contamination by human hands that touch it. So in places where certain parasites are common that may be the vector. And all the probiotics or vitamins in the world won't necessarily help prevent a parasite infection. Some people carry them and so in a sense would be immune. But not sure of the long term health consequences. Probably depends on the parasite. Common parasitic ones are ameobic dysentery and giardia. With ameobic dysentery being the worst.

    Bacterial infections can probably be lessened by good health and diet, although if you get a bad type of e-coli for example it is more about your resistance and who knows what else. That is a common cause of "food poisoning", and again is caused by contamination from food handlers. Or comes in on produce, etc. Bad e-coli reactions can be very serious, but with the same contamination only a certain (small) number of people get ill, and lots don't even notice it. And others die from it or complications.

    Anyway. Point being, don't assume one treatment fits all. Treatments for parasites are very different than for bacterial infections, and within those categories the drugs for each type are very different. And viruses another thing altogether. Basically no antibiotic works for them. So get a proper diagnoses.

  13. #447
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueChange  [View Original Post]
    WOW so THIS is what I had. I stayed in Santa Marta for about 2 or 3 weeks asnd right about the last couple days there I got SUPER ill. I thought it was the chicken I got from this place. I had eaten there before so I figured there was no problems but, I nust say that is the worst ill I ever dealt with. I had diareha non stop, like really non stop. I was lucky I was able to get to the store and stock up on gatorade and meds. I remember I was vomiting soo much that like it was painful in my mouth and uncontroable. I never wish this on anybody. I think I ate 2 crackers the entire 3 days I was sick. After I was totally fine though and I was in the clear one day before I had to leave. Holy fuck wow that was an unreal experience.

    Thanks for the heads up.

    How exactly do you prevent this from happening? I never have these problems in Bogota or medellin or baraquilla but WOW holy fuck this was bad.
    My episode of vomiting and diarrhea only lasted three hours and I was able to eat the next morning. I have a pretty resilient stomach as only got sick once in India when I ate some imported Swiss cheese of all things. What was conveyed to me by the Doctor was that it was very common to get parasite infections in Santa Marta. I haven't had any problems in Medellin the last two years. So your question is, how do you prevent this from happening. Either don't go to Santa Marta, or perhaps make like your in India and only eat things you peel and cooked food. But that won't even guarantee that you will not get sick.

  14. #446
    Quote Originally Posted by BKKguru  [View Original Post]
    Does Dr. Gupta eat this meal? Watch the re-run of this show to find out! :))
    Why not? I am not doctor, but even I know to carry probiotic with me in case I run into some bad bacteria. But you described the food being cooked over a wood fire. So once that is heated past a certain temp, the bacteria are killed anyway. It is the uncooked stuff like salad and water that one must be careful of.

  15. #445
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]

    The essential problem is that people in the US take too many antibiotics and we focus so much on absolute sanitation, which means if they get a little contamination on an apple it wrecks your system. You can prepare a bit on the front end to lessen the possibility that you'll get foodborne illness by building up the "good bacteria" in your gut. Several weeks before traveling, up your intake of things like yogurt (homemade is best) and acidophilus milk. Many people would also suggest daily doses of 1000 MG of Vitamin see- Dr. Linus Pauling was a big champion of building your immune system with Vitamin see. Don't be concerned about the dosage <snip>

    Just some thoughts.
    Thanks for the information. I agree that folks living in the US live in a "sanitized" environment. A little dirt is good for your body.

    Another good source of Vitamin C is Lemon. Squeeze half a lemon (or lime) in your water. Do not add salt or sugar. Two direct benefits:
    a) You will get HALF the dose of your daily Vitamin C.
    b) If you suffer from Hypertension (or high blood pressure), your blood pressure will begin to drop.

    Few months back, CNN started running a new series called "Chasing Life". The host of this show Dr. Sanjay Gupta visits different countries.
    The goal is to find out the secret of their good health. One show was about Bolivia. Dr. Gupta visits a small village in the Amazon jungle.
    According to the show, these Bolivian natives have the BEST Cardiovascular health in the world.

    I bring this up because Dr. Gupta mentions these folks already have the bacteria / parasites in their body. They will not fall sick.
    On the other hand, he had just arrived days earlier from the US. He had to watch everything he was eating and drinking.

    Dr. Gupta is invited to join a meal. He is shown sitting on the floor (in a hut) while the meal is being cooked on a wood fire.
    The meal is ready and served in a banana leaf (most likely fish, but do not remember exactly).
    Dr. Gupta knows he will fall sick if he eats this. He is seriously embarrassed because this meal means a lot to the Bolivian jungle natives.

    Does Dr. Gupta eat this meal? Watch the re-run of this show to find out! :))

    ~BKKguru

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