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  1. #11215

    Oh dear. Any glimmer of hope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny227  [View Original Post]
    When tickets sales will slow they will care. But unless a drastic decline, nothing happens. Also, many people only know Google reviews they dint read ISG. And maybe for the girls, Artemis has some supplier agreements they can't break or work with other suppliers.
    So with an upcoming visit this week imminent, I was hoping for just SOME positive feedback in this forum in the last 2 weeks but it hasn't arrived.

    Several reports, from experienced members, of the club getting gradually worse. Surely there must be some decent girls amongst the LU? How many girls now work in the club on an average night? 20,30, 50,70, 100? I expect the club could not survive with only 20 or so. So of maybe 50+ there just must be a few who reach 8/10 no?

    If not, what is keeping the club alive? I know it is the only club in Berlin with no competition, but dreadful options result in no punters. There are many other P6 options in Berlin so why hasn't Artemis closed if it is this bad? I have even contemplated trying to divert 2 meetings to other locations because of this! No joy! So either I try one night (I only have two) but then abandon it for one of the other P6 options. I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?

  2. #11214
    Quote Originally Posted by Danny227  [View Original Post]
    Was there over the weekend. Terrible.
    When tickets sales will slow they will care. But unless a drastic decline, nothing happens. Also, many people only know Google reviews they dint read ISG. And maybe for the girls, Artemis has some supplier agreements they can't break or work with other suppliers.

  3. #11213
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Agreed, but I believe that having them pay nothing would only make matters worse by making going to "work" at an FKK look more enticing to "riff-raff" type of girls. I'm talking about those who are only there to fleece as many customers as possible. Thinking only about the here and now versus building a good reputation by providing honest and quality service to horny men willing to pay for it.
    I agree, and this is something Artemis failed to do. It used to be good club with beautiful lineup with mild up sell, but delivered service. Let see how Artemis improve. Does Kennan even care?

  4. #11212
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    A is a terrible club but good enough for Asian guys, fair visitors but completely out for any little bit demanding senior monger, a real no go place even for free I don t like to waste my time which veteran, sili and botoxed girls.
    Was there over the weekend. Terrible.

  5. #11211
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    A is a terrible club but good enough for Asian guys, fair visitors but completely out for any little bit demanding senior monger, a real no go place even for free I don t like to waste my time which veteran, sili and botoxed girls.
    Yes this place is not for a seasoned monger with worldwide experience for sure, or someone who likes the street scene like myself.

  6. #11210
    Quote Originally Posted by Tintin1  [View Original Post]
    Which ones, especially which one did you like? Thanks.
    Sorry don't remember the name of the gal at Europa Salon but she was from Moldavia wherever the hell that is! A larger girl but spoke five languages and very pleasant.

  7. #11209
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Some of them act like that anyways LOL.
    Agreed, but I believe that having them pay nothing would only make matters worse by making going to "work" at an FKK look more enticing to "riff-raff" type of girls. I'm talking about those who are only there to fleece as many customers as possible. Thinking only about the here and now versus building a good reputation by providing honest and quality service to horny men willing to pay for it.

  8. #11208
    Yeah I know, you told it maybe 20 times in the last few days.

  9. #11207
    Quote Originally Posted by PinballMachine  [View Original Post]
    I have had the exact same thoughts as nooky about girls entrance fee. Does anybody know how much they have to pay?

    Anyhow, if I were the club owner I would drastically lower the fee that the girls have to pay to work there. The club would become way more attractive for way more attractive girls and hence more customers would visit.

    The club, the girls and the bears would all benefit I think.

    Was there the other day, only sessioned once with a Turkish / German girl named Emira.

    Have to agree that Artemis need to attract more girls and girls.

    I ended up having an escort to my hotel room on a late call.
    A is a terrible club but good enough for Asian guys, fair visitors but completely out for any little bit demanding senior monger, a real no go place even for free I don t like to waste my time which veteran, sili and botoxed girls.

  10. #11206
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I did however afterwards visit two low end brothels, and had a good experience at one of them, and it only set me back 60 Euros. Can't wait to get back to Colombia in three weeks. Sixty Euros goes a long way there!
    Which ones, especially which one did you like? Thanks.

  11. #11205
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    I would not reduce the entrance fee for the girls to zero in an effort to discourage total scammers and rip-off artists who will undoubtedly act like they have nothing to lose (without considering their own reputations). I would make every girl pay something that would incentivize them some to have to work to get that money back. Otherwise, you'll have plenty of more scammers showing up and getting what they can get for however many nights, then moving on, either by choice or after having been kicked out.
    Some of them act like that anyways LOL.

  12. #11204
    Quote Originally Posted by FiddyCent  [View Original Post]
    Hey Surfer500. I stopped being a regular visitor to Artemis a few years ago. There was a decline in the looks and quality of the girls there. Instead, I also shifted my attention to the Frankfurt clubs. For this club it might be a bit early in the day for the top girls, but if you did not like the girls at 2 PM, the quality of the girls probably won't improve significantly enough for you to find a suitor. You must be spoiled in Colombia. I remember the last visit I made, the girls were very aggressive. She tried to convince me to go to the room right away when I was heading to the dinner table. She said that they were not serving food. I called her on that and said look the restaurant is open. I don't know why the Artemis management did not kick these girls out. It will just drive tourists away. Your 80 Euros would have allowed you to enter again later in the evening, but since you were so turned off by the experience, you were probably wise to cut your losses. I also hoped you were able to use your time wisely the rest of the night. Where did you wind up going? Berlin is a great city to explore for a tourist. There are also plenty of other options. Hopefully, you will find something to your liking.

    FiddyCent.
    Nooky Ninja made some good points, primarily, don't go there before six PM in the evening! The place was just not my cup of tea at all, however I can see how some guys would like the place.

    I did however afterwards visit two low end brothels, and had a good experience at one of them, and it only set me back 60 Euros. Can't wait to get back to Colombia in three weeks. Sixty Euros goes a long way there!

  13. #11203

    Girls entrance

    I have had the exact same thoughts as nooky about girls entrance fee. Does anybody know how much they have to pay?

    Anyhow, if I were the club owner I would drastically lower the fee that the girls have to pay to work there. The club would become way more attractive for way more attractive girls and hence more customers would visit.

    The club, the girls and the bears would all benefit I think.

    Was there the other day, only sessioned once with a Turkish / German girl named Emira.

    Have to agree that Artemis need to attract more girls and girls.

    I ended up having an escort to my hotel room on a late call.

  14. #11202

    Decline

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Went to this FKK for the first time yesterday around 2 PM in the afternoon to check it out and should of never went. When I arrived I paid the 80 Euro entrance fee, got my locker, changed into a robe, and started checking the place out. There were about 25 guys there and about the same number of women at this time. As I was walking around at least six different women came up to me or were following me around, touching me, or chatting me up. With the exception of one woman, most of these women were disappointing. Some of them were way past their prime, and a few of them looked like linebackers! And there was the "smokers crew" sitting at the bar, a heavily tatted Turkish woman, and just a bunch of unattractive women wandering around the place with the exception of one as previously mentioned. But she was just to aggressive for me along with some of the others. In regards to the "free food", it was a bunch of slop, with no juices or ice at the soda machine.

    So I sat down with some of the other patrons to discuss my observations and was told it was early in the day which it was, and that there would be better looking girls showing up later in the day. So I departed after 45 minutes and didn't return later to confirm whether this was true or not. I was generally turned off by the place, the desperate girls, and don't see what the attraction of the place is. The facilities are okay, but at 80 Euros to get in, not worth it in my opinion. And I am not convinced that the quality of the women would be substantially better later on. Just my thoughts and observations, hopefully others will have a better experience than I did.
    Hey Surfer500. I stopped being a regular visitor to Artemis a few years ago. There was a decline in the looks and quality of the girls there. Instead, I also shifted my attention to the Frankfurt clubs. For this club it might be a bit early in the day for the top girls, but if you did not like the girls at 2 PM, the quality of the girls probably won't improve significantly enough for you to find a suitor. You must be spoiled in Colombia. I remember the last visit I made, the girls were very aggressive. She tried to convince me to go to the room right away when I was heading to the dinner table. She said that they were not serving food. I called her on that and said look the restaurant is open. I don't know why the Artemis management did not kick these girls out. It will just drive tourists away. Your 80 Euros would have allowed you to enter again later in the evening, but since you were so turned off by the experience, you were probably wise to cut your losses. I also hoped you were able to use your time wisely the rest of the night. Where did you wind up going? Berlin is a great city to explore for a tourist. There are also plenty of other options. Hopefully, you will find something to your liking.

    FiddyCent.

  15. #11201

    Entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by NookyNinja  [View Original Post]
    Might be interesting experiment to run if a drastically reduced fee it charges to girls, maybe even to 0, except for those who sleep there who would pay small room charge.
    I would not reduce the entrance fee for the girls to zero in an effort to discourage total scammers and rip-off artists who will undoubtedly act like they have nothing to lose (without considering their own reputations). I would make every girl pay something that would incentivize them some to have to work to get that money back. Otherwise, you'll have plenty of more scammers showing up and getting what they can get for however many nights, then moving on, either by choice or after having been kicked out.

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