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  1. #8285

    Heads-up. Newcomer Lisa-de in GT

    I really enjoyed her. She is still a little bit of a rough diamond and is yet only 2 months in business. Today was her 2nd day in GT. She is medeteranian origin, but grown up in Cologe. Awesome body for a 28 year old. Great firm natural be-cup. Dark, long hair. Still shy.

    She was really committed and she is for me a repeat.

    More to come on today's visit.

  2. #8284

    St Nicolas Day at GT.

    St Nicolas skipped the toys for children today and instead pulled on his icebear skin and spent the day at GT. I didn't see many of the favorites in the bar the few times I was there. I did see Leyla, Pim, Sara, Melika, Roxy, Elvira, Dorina, Juliette. There was one cute petite young brunette hanging out with the German girls but I didn't get her name. I also saw Antonella, formerly of LR and most of this past year at YY huddled in the GT smoking cove. She is a nice optic addition for the club.

  3. #8283
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    I keep reading this "appointment problem" about GT on this board but is it actually true or an urban legend that gets perpetuated? Yes girls are often hard to get; but is it because they are prebooked or is it just that the ratios are not so good with long room waits so one actually has to be ready to grab a girl as soon as she is free? I think each girl might have one 2 or 3 pre bookings for an hour or two here and there but that should leave plenty of time to still grab a session. Maybe once or twice a week will a girl have a longer pre-booked session.

    Three girls I've recently gone with are 3 of the more popular ones; Kate, Cami, and Florentina / Luana. At no point did I come across a situation where they told me that they were pre-booked. What I did however was grab them as soon as I saw them, without hesitation or needing to have couch time. It might have helped once when a friend told Luana that I was coming and would be interested. Kate, when there, never seems to be unavailable if you catch her coming out of the locker. Once in November, I was able to grab Cami twice in one day, for 30 minutes rooms even. The next week Luana was sitting there, in the smoking cove, available on at least 3 different occasions one Sunday evening.

    Also where did this rumor that GT management refuses Romanian girls come from? I know the case that many Romanians don't like the rules at GT so they choose to not work there but don't know of a case where a girl was turned down by management as long as she was willing to follow GT's policies.
    I would day a little bit of both. I see Kate just sitting there waiting for clients for over an hour many times. Not on Fri. & Sat, but other days not busy at all.

    The overpay to get a number or appointment seems to be a ridiculous myth. I don't know of any Dutch or German regulars who's even heard of such silly things. Not saying it doesn't happen, but very unlikely. I'm just a newbie so what do I know.

  4. #8282
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyHarry  [View Original Post]
    Well, I guess a lot of it depends on your libido and optical preferences as well. Some guys cum in one of those 30 minute sessions and then they need many hours to recover or recharge, or they only cum once of twice in total during an entire afternoon. I don't need that much time in between sessions, and I'm bored shitless in GT. At least during the summer there is a nice garden to sit outside, but during the winter you're even competing for a chair inside the club.

    For me it's a vicious circle: after an orgasm I recharge much quicker again when I'm surrounded by hot girls because they are an inspiration for the next session, but in GT the lack of an available (sexy girls gives me this tendency that it completely kills my sex mood. I become lethargic, bored and passive, so I do another desperate round of walking through the club hoping to see at least ONE hot chick that I can take to a room, but all I see is the same grumpy faces of the same girls I would never even fuck for free, and the same masses of white bathrobes with a beer bottle in their hand.

    Some French guy can (who spends thousands of Euros per year on entry fees alone!) perhaps likes to spend many hours watching F1, tennis or football, but most normal people don't visit a sex club every day, every weekend or even every month. For them it's that afternoon or that evening that is important, and they want sexy available (girls and available rooms for their hard-earned E60 entrance fee, not F1!
    For your kind of sex, with no waiting and fast sex, without patience, GT and LR are not for you, longer time to wait for room at LR on Friday and Saturday evenings, but go to Aca, Samya with not bad casting, Sharks with now slow business even on Friday evening, or Oase I read about less clients now than girls.

    I think I could organize to work from clubs, nearly every day, but have some appointments in Paris or Luxemburg, so easier to be more relax from Thursday evening to Monday for FKK land, but all my girls know I will always prefer ski and formula 1 rather than a room. Only a very few made me miss only Formula 1 tries. I don t go to clubs to watch, I m not like Germans who don t have sky at home to watch Bundesliga, and now I prefer to return home to be sure I can watch what I want when I want, like I told Kate on our last time, so I didn t stay on Saturday, to return home to enjoy Killington Vermont for Mikaela and Lake Louise. Unfortunately, I missed Beaver Creek on this week end and even races were shortened because of snow falls, it was more painful for me than a new belly scar and all problems since then.

    In clubs, I didn't want to pay for average girls, but only for excellence like at Globe. On this Friday evening, I preferred no room at so average Sharks even Mandy is prettier face than before with more sophisticated look with long hair and seemed available around 8 pm, and many girls, but a wow girl discovered at far higher level Palace where I moved after. But all is about level we look for. At Sharks, many girls to get sex, at Palace a very few, 2/3 to dream, for no rate. Nevertheless, can still find sometimes, but they are more and more rare, dreamed wow girls for 50/30 mn. This wow girl, my first Venezuelan but Russian type, to be my first, too expensive, Christmas present, but I don't regret my money because it was magic with her and I prefer to have only 1 magic expensive room rather than fucking all GND. I think I will always be welcome, she won't forget, even compare to her big money Ibiza party, offering me a drink of vodka with her friend after our private time, but I preferred my apfelsaft, but her passion and smiles give me the energy at the moment to fight against hell and time, to recover to be on time on 24 December, for my real best Christmas present, free riding start, even snow is too fresh, amazing to make own lines, but not solid enough. But for dreams and passion, and even top girls can t compete with.

    I will miss the pool, but I like Palace new design. High level club services and worth for few high level looks who are now rare in Germany, but I go only for them.

    But I confirm, I can claim to be quite a regular at GT, I don t take appointments, I prefer to feel desire when I see a sexy, welcoming, woman type, and no upselling experienced for the best level in bed experienced, with few at YY, and few at LR, I don t compare with Globe of course.

  5. #8281
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyHarry  [View Original Post]
    Well, there is your answer.

    Sad to see one of my favourite clubs having gone downhill so much, but they (read: management) have only themselves to blame. Instead of a sauna-FKK club, the incompetent management has allowed GT to become a sort of hotel where you only can fuck hot girls after making a WhatsApp-Facebook appointment. (basically just like a normal brothel) Most clubs are quite restrictive about girls giving their contact details to customers, because;.
    I keep reading this "appointment problem" about GT on this board but is it actually true or an urban legend that gets perpetuated? Yes girls are often hard to get; but is it because they are prebooked or is it just that the ratios are not so good with long room waits so one actually has to be ready to grab a girl as soon as she is free? I think each girl might have one 2 or 3 pre bookings for an hour or two here and there but that should leave plenty of time to still grab a session. Maybe once or twice a week will a girl have a longer pre-booked session.

    Three girls I've recently gone with are 3 of the more popular ones; Kate, Cami, and Florentina / Luana. At no point did I come across a situation where they told me that they were pre-booked. What I did however was grab them as soon as I saw them, without hesitation or needing to have couch time. It might have helped once when a friend told Luana that I was coming and would be interested. Kate, when there, never seems to be unavailable if you catch her coming out of the locker. Once in November, I was able to grab Cami twice in one day, for 30 minutes rooms even. The next week Luana was sitting there, in the smoking cove, available on at least 3 different occasions one Sunday evening.

    Also where did this rumor that GT management refuses Romanian girls come from? I know the case that many Romanians don't like the rules at GT so they choose to not work there but don't know of a case where a girl was turned down by management as long as she was willing to follow GT's policies.

  6. #8280
    Quote Originally Posted by Chongmal  [View Original Post]
    One of my friends keeps GT on his schedule for a sure thing for ladies he will like and he is almost exclusively a 30 m session guy. Again, a YMMV thing.
    Well, I guess a lot of it depends on your libido and optical preferences as well. Some guys cum in one of those 30 minute sessions and then they need many hours to recover or recharge, or they only cum once of twice in total during an entire afternoon. I don't need that much time in between sessions, and I'm bored shitless in GT. At least during the summer there is a nice garden to sit outside, but during the winter you're even competing for a chair inside the club.

    For me it's a vicious circle: after an orgasm I recharge much quicker again when I'm surrounded by hot girls because they are an inspiration for the next session, but in GT the lack of an available (sexy girls gives me this tendency that it completely kills my sex mood. I become lethargic, bored and passive, so I do another desperate round of walking through the club hoping to see at least ONE hot chick that I can take to a room, but all I see is the same grumpy faces of the same girls I would never even fuck for free, and the same masses of white bathrobes with a beer bottle in their hand.

    Some French guy can (who spends thousands of Euros per year on entry fees alone!) perhaps likes to spend many hours watching F1, tennis or football, but most normal people don't visit a sex club every day, every weekend or even every month. For them it's that afternoon or that evening that is important, and they want sexy available (girls and available rooms for their hard-earned E60 entrance fee, not F1!

  7. #8279
    Quote Originally Posted by Akibono  [View Original Post]
    What is also true is the fact that prices have barely risen in over 10 years. Want better girls? Pay more. There are plenty of venues where top girls can be found. But it will cost you more than 100 E per hour. That is also the reason why GT has had difficulty in recruiting younger girls.
    Many Romanian beauties would be happy to try GT, but are not accepted, when they accept a ugly old Italian ready for anything for money.

  8. #8278
    Maybe I didn't visit this land of upselling GT yet. Unfortunately I can only confirm since September, most often low level casting and I can t understand why they accept Donatella / Sylvana and refuse some fresh Romanian beauties. They just took some from LR.

    About upselling, some German girls don t like the everything for 50 , but no problem for 1 h for 100, and they ask to repeat. My regular is the busiest at GT and I don't want to take appointment because I like so much to feel desire when she smiling welcome me, my pleasure start at this moment, sometimes she seems sorry have to wait for free room, but never a problem for me, I can control my cum. We never speak about money, since more than 3 years.

    Except on Saturday evening and Sunday afternoon, GT is not so crowded. Staff girls on desk always try to please, even foreigners, they speak English and Tatiana also french, when LR management is not able to speak English.

    GT is not on top at the moment, but good club services and usually good level in bed for my experiences.

    I was at Sharks on this Friday 30 November, more girls, Mandy is prettier with new look, but lack of elegance, Tia. De was the prettiest for me but not kissing so not for me, I didn t see any Kate, 0 room, I moved to Palace for far higher level and a wow girl.

  9. #8277
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyHarry  [View Original Post]
    P. S. I owe a big apology to Polyamorist, who already recognised this trend a few years ago!

    I completely disagreed with him back then, but I have to admit that he was spot on! In GT it's not the management that is in charge, but a gang of working girls. As the proverb goes: "it's the lunatics who are in charge of the asylum," and the results are (now 3 years later) clearly visible.

    Polyamorist's post from March 2016: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ggen&p=1857150#post1857150.
    I read up on the past report. Some interesting thought in it but when I came to the part about Kelly I stopped. Why, she offered me everything but anal and I took full advantages of her offers. A pure case of YMMV. Currently I go to GT for one lady then leave and I stay in the room. Longer than 30 m. One of my friends keeps GT on his schedule for a sure thing for ladies he will like and he is almost exclusively a 30 m session guy. Again, a YMMV thing.

  10. #8276

    Apology to Polyamorist.

    P. S. I owe a big apology to Polyamorist, who already recognised this trend a few years ago!

    I completely disagreed with him back then, but I have to admit that he was spot on! In GT it's not the management that is in charge, but a gang of working girls. As the proverb goes: "it's the lunatics who are in charge of the asylum," and the results are (now 3 years later) clearly visible.

    Polyamorist's post from March 2016: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ggen&p=1857150#post1857150.

  11. #8275
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalabo  [View Original Post]
    Friday, November 23.

    It was not very crowded based on GT standard. Food was ok, not what it used to be. May be these are signs that things are not going well for GT.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalabo  [View Original Post]
    LU was disappointing....
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalabo  [View Original Post]
    On Saturday, November 24, I spent 3 hours and left without sessioning.
    Well, there is your answer.

    Sad to see one of my favourite clubs having gone downhill so much, but they (read: management) have only themselves to blame. Instead of a sauna-FKK club, the incompetent management has allowed GT to become a sort of hotel where you only can fuck hot girls after making a WhatsApp-Facebook appointment. (basically just like a normal brothel) Most clubs are quite restrictive about girls giving their contact details to customers, because;.

    1) they don't want girls meeting customers outside the club.

    2) appointment making on a massive scale (as in GT) completely kills the spontaneous atmosphere, and.

    3) not very pretty girls, who's phone numbers and sexual services are less in demand, are the only girls that remain available in the line up.

    Visiting GT without making prior arrangements, even for experienced club-goers, can lead to a rather disappointing and a boring afternoon of watching lots of men in white bathrobes. You'll end up chasing that one hot girl once she comes back from a session, as PussyLicker described:

    Quote Originally Posted by PussyLiccker  [View Original Post]
    I'm realy getting tired of few girls that guys are getting desperate to grab. One girl got asked by multiple men on her journey. Too many bears Sat that it would look overwhelmng for a new comer.
    So how to score phone numbers and Facebook profiles in order to make an appointment? Well, lots of visits to GT, lots of luck in meeting a hot sexy girl, and by not saying "no" to the upselling demands of the girls. Once you have finally obtained a phone number of a sexy bird and you messaged her for an appointment? Well, that's a 2 hour minimum if you want to make an appointment! That also explains why the rooms in GT are constantly occupied for such long periods: there is no flow or movement and that again explains why girls are so aggresively upselling because they only make money in the room, not if they are waiting for a key. Both men and women are almost 'scared' to leave the room, because it means joining the queue again at the back.

    It's a vicious circle.

    Most tourists and occasional visitors don't have the patience or money for this bullshit and after discovering that the remaining line-up sucks, they take their business elsewhere. That's what I've been doing for nearly 2 years now: avoiding GT. I've been mostly going to Sharks because there I can easily find a sexy girl, take her to a room (without 20-40 minute waiting for key), fuck her within 30 minutes or maximum 1 hour without too much upselling bullshit, take a shower, and be out looking for the next girl again.

    Only Dutch and Belgians continue to go to GT and keep the place from going bankrupt because it's close to the border, they are hopelessly naive, and too spineless to say "no" to the blatant upselling.

  12. #8274
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyHarry  [View Original Post]
    Just because 30 minutes with a working girl costs hundreds of Dollars in some sexually-deprived countries shouldn't mean that it should cost the same in Germany! Ever heard of demand v. S. Supply?

    Why should some communist 'central planner' decides how much the going rate should be for FKK clubs? Why should people "pay more" because some sex tourist thinks it's necessary to throw around money? Why don't those same sex tourists (who, mind you, fly thousands of miles to Germany in order to enjoy the freedoms we have here) not use their energy on changing the prudish attitude towards prostitution in their home country instead?

    Obviously Germany has been doing many things right with regards to prostitution over many centuries (duh, that's the very reason so many people come here for a short trip), so why not enjoy the ride and stop telling the Germans how to run their country?
    Seriouly, do you walk around pissed all the time? You folks complain about the quality but don't want to pay what the higher end market will bear. I am assuming you do not pick up the girls in the RLD because they do not meet your specs. But they are cheaper. The same goes with the FKKs. Since the price has not kept up with alternatives, you get lower class girls (looks etc.). The better girls have quit or gone to higher paying venues. Many went to Switzerland. Some have gone into the escort business. Even in Germany! They are still around. You just do not see them in the basic clubs. So, no I am not telling Germans how to run their country. I am telling people who enjoy the fruits of Germany to pay up or settle for what is left. The fact that many girls demand multiple hour bookings in advance at GT indicates that there are people who are willing to pay. It is just that some of you will not.

  13. #8273

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    Friday, November 23.

    It was not very crowded based on GT standard. Food was ok, not what it used to be. May be these are signs that things are not going well for GT.

    LU was disappointing but I managed to find the following 3 girls to session.

    Beatrice, a 28 yo tall Hungarian. Nice girl. Good session.

    Juliette, a 24 yo Romanian blonde. Good session.

    Flore, a 27 yo 180 cm tall Romanian girl. She spend as much time talking, complaining her pussy is sensitive, that she is tired etc. Be careful with this one.

    On Saturday, November 24, I spent 3 hours and left without sessioning.

  14. #8272
    Quote Originally Posted by Akibono  [View Original Post]
    What is also true is the fact that prices have barely risen in over 10 years. Want better girls? Pay more. There are plenty of venues where top girls can be found. But it will cost you more than 100 E per hour. That is also the reason why GT has had difficulty in recruiting younger girls.
    Just because 30 minutes with a working girl costs hundreds of Dollars in some sexually-deprived countries shouldn't mean that it should cost the same in Germany! Ever heard of demand v. S. Supply?

    Why should some communist 'central planner' decides how much the going rate should be for FKK clubs? Why should people "pay more" because some sex tourist thinks it's necessary to throw around money? Why don't those same sex tourists (who, mind you, fly thousands of miles to Germany in order to enjoy the freedoms we have here) not use their energy on changing the prudish attitude towards prostitution in their home country instead?

    Obviously Germany has been doing many things right with regards to prostitution over many centuries (duh, that's the very reason so many people come here for a short trip), so why not enjoy the ride and stop telling the Germans how to run their country?

  15. #8271
    Akibono, would you kindly clue us in, which "plenty of venues" you might be thinking of? Esp. those with younger women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Akibono  [View Original Post]
    What is also true is the fact that prices have barely risen in over 10 years. Want better girls? Pay more. There are plenty of venues where top girls can be found. But it will cost you more than 100 E per hour. That is also the reason why GT has had difficulty in recruiting younger girls.

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