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  1. #4566
    Quote Originally Posted by FranzMaister  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your answer, Gino02: it'd be very useful for the future.

    But let me add some details:

    - I understand girls don't want to be considered just "a piece of meat", and I try to do my part in this scenario, attempting to build a funny and relaxed conversation. But I had the strong perception that most girls are not interested in a certain amount of social time, with the exception of girls all the time booked by "customer-boyfriend". So, for an occasional customer like me they are more "business oriented", because the more rooms they do the more they earn, of course; this can be confirmed because after just few questions they first ask to go to the room. In that situation I use the interview to know what girl do and what don't. Maybe I could be more clear in my request, with more statements and less questions, but I think it's important to know exactly what is going to happen in the room, both for the client and the girl, above all considering that services offered change according to the girl.

    That said, my question is; what exactly do you do when a girl approaches you or you approach a girl? Are you a regular customer or an occasional one? Maybe for an experienced guy of this club like you the situation is different.

    - About Reina, when she stopped the performance she was just making a BBJ, but there was no cumming: it was for this reason I was surprised; I could have asked her a time compensation, as you suggested, but I preferred to say nothing about.

    - Maybe it was just a bad experience, but you should also read my recent experience at Golden Time, which I'll post in the proper thread ASAP.
    I end up going to the Frankfurt clubs more often than NRW clubs, maybe once or twice per 3-6 months in LR, so can't call myself an LR regular. It usually takes me about 30 seconds to maximum a minute to feel if a WG new to me would be a good session or not, about the same time it takes me to feel in a normal bar or nightclub if a girl is into me or not. I think key is to listen to her as opposed to asking too many intimate questions, only leading questions or titbits to help her talk. Kinda like the advices from the movie Hitch.

  2. #4565
    Quote Originally Posted by JunkJock  [View Original Post]
    Skymaster, Sirioja, and everyone else. Thanks for the great advice. I know how hit-and-miss everything can be, even in FKK-land. Though it is the best odds. Reading these forums has always provided the best intel. You guys rock!
    FKK land is a bit like casino, but even You pay, I think You will win pleasure more often in FKK than money in casino. But like in my mountains about weather, You have to accept to lose sometimes and I m a real frustration torturing myself specialist, so frustrating for me when my lovely girls become so prostitute, real killing desire for me. After my amazing last free ride session, caught by flog behind Col Pers on top of Val the Isere, couldn't see my ski, but mountains know how much I love them, so sun returned to lighten because no more snow bridge to cross the river, no other exit than changing way, like sometimes in FKK. On this Friday I discovered a so woman with charm, 30 yo Croatian and fireworks in bed. I decided to return yesterday but I saw her so prostitute, she came to ask if I was upset about her, I answered I don t go with unrespectful prostitutes, she ran away returning to her friend, she came back later to ask why I thought this, when it was great on Friday, I explained her what she showed me, she said: but now I m free only for You if You want. Even a rare high level, but became dirty for me. She came again later saying I exaggerate too much, I answered the Friday woman and the Saturday prostitute could go with others. This is typical whole FKK land for me.

  3. #4564

    Thanks for the advice!

    Skymaster, Sirioja, and everyone else. Thanks for the great advice. I know how hit-and-miss everything can be, even in FKK-land. Though it is the best odds. Reading these forums has always provided the best intel. You guys rock!

  4. #4563
    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    Every experience in FKK is a bit different for obvious reasons. That said, I think you got poor services because you asked way too many detail questions. True that girls are there for making money in exchange for sex, and they are naked or almost naked for this business. But still most of them like to think that they are not a piece of meat that you buy in a grocery store after asking the butcher about the type and cut of the meat. I usually don't even ask any question with a girl new to me, and let her ask questions. The moment she breaks down various services and extras, I don't even go to a room with her, as that is a sign for a disaster in the room. If you like her and she likes you without listing the extras, you both will have fun, and she will make money (usually a lot of money). This works worldwide..
    Thanks for your answer, Gino02: it'd be very useful for the future.

    But let me add some details:

    - I understand girls don't want to be considered just "a piece of meat", and I try to do my part in this scenario, attempting to build a funny and relaxed conversation. But I had the strong perception that most girls are not interested in a certain amount of social time, with the exception of girls all the time booked by "customer-boyfriend". So, for an occasional customer like me they are more "business oriented", because the more rooms they do the more they earn, of course; this can be confirmed because after just few questions they first ask to go to the room. In that situation I use the interview to know what girl do and what don't. Maybe I could be more clear in my request, with more statements and less questions, but I think it's important to know exactly what is going to happen in the room, both for the client and the girl, above all considering that services offered change according to the girl.

    That said, my question is; what exactly do you do when a girl approaches you or you approach a girl? Are you a regular customer or an occasional one? Maybe for an experienced guy of this club like you the situation is different.

    - About Reina, when she stopped the performance she was just making a BBJ, but there was no cumming: it was for this reason I was surprised; I could have asked her a time compensation, as you suggested, but I preferred to say nothing about.

    - Maybe it was just a bad experience, but you should also read my recent experience at Golden Time, which I'll post in the proper thread ASAP.

  5. #4562
    Quote Originally Posted by FranzMaister  [View Original Post]
    Short report of my first visit at LR.

    I went in the afternoon of a Sunday. The scene was rather quiet. After some interviews I understood girls are not generally interested in spending social time with you, even short, except if you are a regular customer. Moreover, I had strange answers to my questions. For example: "Do you do FK? "it depends", or "let's see in the room", or "not all the time", "only with my boyfriend", ecc. Other example: "I offer anal", "Fantastic, how much is it?" - "It depends, if you have a certain penis size you pay 50, if it's bigger I can refuse or ask you more extra".

    I had two sessions:

    1- Reina: she looked very cute, but I didn't like her attitude in the room. After a decent BBJ, which led me to erection, she said: "I had to go in the bathroom upstairs to flush my mouth"; "so are you leaving me during an erection? "Don't worry, I'll come early". She took more than 5 minutes to do this and for a normal an half hour session it was a waste of time. I was shocked, I didn't know what to do. Then she came and we finished the session. Very strange.

    2- Penelope: I was tired, but I decided to do an other session. I found this girl, which seemed very kind. In the room I clarified we would have done an half hour session and she agreed. At the end of an average sex, she offered to me a massage. Here a problem emerged: she was "convinced" for 1 hour session (IMO she tried to deceive me). I paid for an half hour session: she seemed annoyed, but no objections.

    Even if the club closes at 4, at 1.30 the party could be said to be over.

    From all I wrote I can conclude FKK model can be great yet if you are a regular customer, who knows girls, their services, their behavior: in fact some rooms were taken for long time. The occasional customer risks being disadvantaged from a girls' standard and not always friendly attitude.

    Just my 2 cents.
    Every experience in FKK is a bit different for obvious reasons. That said, I think you got poor services because you asked way too many detail questions. True that girls are there for making money in exchange for sex, and they are naked or almost naked for this business. But still most of them like to think that they are not a piece of meat that you buy in a grocery store after asking the butcher about the type and cut of the meat. I usually don't even ask any question with a girl new to me, and let her ask questions. The moment she breaks down various services and extras, I don't even go to a room with her, as that is a sign for a disaster in the room. If you like her and she likes you without listing the extras, you both will have fun, and she will make money (usually a lot of money). This works worldwide.

    In your case, Reina should have at least offered to compensate the time that she was out at the bathroom. You could have asked her for that too.

    Only few times that girls went to bathroom in the middle of a session with me in LR and other FKKs are when she had my cum in her pussy. When they like you, most girls enjoy AO (BBFS) with CIP more than using condoms (funny that it is true both for WGs as well as regular non-WGs), and likes to play with the cum for a while, some even wants to go for a second round immediately. Only few runs to the bathroom to clean up immediately.

    Key is to make the experience fun for both parties, girls and guys. Of course she makes some good money along the way.

  6. #4561
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I think you were just unlucky for your choices, like I was for my last choice on my last visit at LR, my worst at LR. There are nice girls at LR and even at Oase which is a club to fuck tourists, even not German, I manage since few weeks to make some beauties being nice and fire in bed. Ask about what you like, to the girl before going to room.
    I meant my worst room at LR, I preferred to stop, even a woman type look and she wanted to try to please me, but we were not on same quality level. A new girl, but not on what was LR level.

  7. #4560
    Quote Originally Posted by FranzMaister  [View Original Post]
    Short report of my first visit at LR.

    I went in the afternoon of a Sunday. The scene was rather quiet. After some interviews I understood girls are not generally interested in spending social time with you, even short, except if you are a regular customer. Moreover, I had strange answers to my questions. For example: "Do you do FK? "it depends", or "let's see in the room", or "not all the time", "only with my boyfriend", ecc. Other example: "I offer anal", "Fantastic, how much is it?" - "It depends, if you have a certain penis size you pay 50, if it's bigger I can refuse or ask you more extra".

    I had two sessions:

    1- Reina: she looked very cute, but I didn't like her attitude in the room. After a decent BBJ, which led me to erection, she said: "I had to go in the bathroom upstairs to flush my mouth"; "so are you leaving me during an erection? "Don't worry, I'll come early". She took more than 5 minutes to do this and for a normal an half hour session it was a waste of time. I was shocked, I didn't know what to do. Then she came and we finished the session. Very strange..
    I think you were just unlucky for your choices, like I was for my last choice on my last visit at LR, my worst at LR. There are nice girls at LR and even at Oase which is a club to fuck tourists, even not German, I manage since few weeks to make some beauties being nice and fire in bed. Ask about what you like, to the girl before going to room.

  8. #4559

    Sunday, April 7th.

    Short report of my first visit at LR.

    I went in the afternoon of a Sunday. The scene was rather quiet. After some interviews I understood girls are not generally interested in spending social time with you, even short, except if you are a regular customer. Moreover, I had strange answers to my questions. For example: "Do you do FK? "it depends", or "let's see in the room", or "not all the time", "only with my boyfriend", ecc. Other example: "I offer anal", "Fantastic, how much is it?" - "It depends, if you have a certain penis size you pay 50, if it's bigger I can refuse or ask you more extra".

    I had two sessions:

    1- Reina: she looked very cute, but I didn't like her attitude in the room. After a decent BBJ, which led me to erection, she said: "I had to go in the bathroom upstairs to flush my mouth"; "so are you leaving me during an erection? "Don't worry, I'll come early". She took more than 5 minutes to do this and for a normal an half hour session it was a waste of time. I was shocked, I didn't know what to do. Then she came and we finished the session. Very strange.

    2- Penelope: I was tired, but I decided to do an other session. I found this girl, which seemed very kind. In the room I clarified we would have done an half hour session and she agreed. At the end of an average sex, she offered to me a massage. Here a problem emerged: she was "convinced" for 1 hour session (IMO she tried to deceive me). I paid for an half hour session: she seemed annoyed, but no objections.

    Even if the club closes at 4, at 1.30 the party could be said to be over.

    From all I wrote I can conclude FKK model can be great yet if you are a regular customer, who knows girls, their services, their behavior: in fact some rooms were taken for long time. The occasional customer risks being disadvantaged from a girls' standard and not always friendly attitude.

    Just my 2 cents.

  9. #4558
    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyBearMe  [View Original Post]
    I don't think it's useless. However I can not say also that this is a list that says a lot about girls and give a description of their behaviour. In addition I didn't write about their services. Just was happy after or not? And of course it depends on mongers.

    Some of them went to another club, some of them changed maybe their hair colour or got some kilos. Even maybe she changed her attitude in a positive or in a negative way.

    I used that list. I don't have that much ability (time, money, not risk-taking person) to go for some adventure which I really appreciate you guys doing thereby finding real gems but there are also people like me. So the list underlines again Amira, Nelly, Rose and Joanna. I wouldn't try for example Reina or Anastasia (if there were 2, than I would go for neither of them.

    But when I would have the ability then I would go for all of them at least for one time.
    If I can give you a little advice with my little weekly experience, even I don't have time at the moment, preferring my free ride adrenaline drug, pushing beyond limits, just to keep on having dreams, but I think always better to go to girls we find attractive, unfortunately they are rare for me, but when Amira appreciates how You treat her, she was always nice for our times and will stay my only LR kino girl for our discovery, when I refused with Maia with pretty face and real ass, rather than following comments written on internet by guys you don t know. For me for example, Germans or NL or Asians comments don't have much value because I know I don't behave like them, so I won't experience same than them, because usually you get from girls from what you are. Many guys want to go with my favorites and after they tell me they don t understand what I find so attractive, just their problem, they are not me, when I can have 4 rooms in week end with same girl.

    You should enjoy more when choosing with your brain, rather than being a follower about p or and. If You like BJ, I advice You brunette fresh Anastasia, I don t know where she learned, but she is my best ever at LR. Claire at Bab is also really not bad, when most of girls are just robot or no skill. When I go to a girl for first time, I look how she looks at me when we introduce ourselves, usually I can read how we will be and of course I adapt to the girl, even on my last visit, I tried a really woman look new girl, but really low level for my foreplay, so I told her I preferred to stop, my worst ever room at LR, my mistake because she is friendly and wanted to try her best, but really not on my level. But my main problem at LR is lack of chic beauties and new Feria, blond Bea, I m afraid about Bella, didn't stay because of business.

  10. #4557
    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyBearMe  [View Original Post]
    Here comes a general overview of girls in LR. I read this thread from Page 30 in addition to one German and one Netherlands forum. I claim no accuracy or smth maybe I can be wrong about names and some performances but I believe it can give some information about girls and their services. At least for most commented ones.
    Great work! 8 p indicates that she does something right. Very useful for my first visit next month. Thanks!

  11. #4556

    Useless or not?

    I don't think it's useless. However I can not say also that this is a list that says a lot about girls and give a description of their behaviour. In addition I didn't write about their services. Just was happy after or not? And of course it depends on mongers.

    Some of them went to another club, some of them changed maybe their hair colour or got some kilos. Even maybe she changed her attitude in a positive or in a negative way.

    I used that list. I don't have that much ability (time, money, not risk-taking person) to go for some adventure which I really appreciate you guys doing thereby finding real gems but there are also people like me. So the list underlines again Amira, Nelly, Rose and Joanna. I wouldn't try for example Reina or Anastasia (if there were 2, than I would go for neither of them.

    But when I would have the ability then I would go for all of them at least for one time.

  12. #4555
    Quote Originally Posted by IubiMic  [View Original Post]
    No offense, but a useless list which doesn't even come close to "value " the services the girls at LR provide. When I look at it I see names with one or more negative comments while in fact some of them have to booked in advance, otherwise no chance of making a room with these gems. Or the other way round. Many positive comments on girls that hardly make any rooms.

    Again, no offense, but putting a score or rating on the girls performances is a personal opinion. It can vary highly from client to client. It also brings the risk of missing out on some real gems because people go mainstream, just following along on experiences from somebody who you don't know and don't understand his background and experience in this big world of pay sex.
    From what I gathered, the OP just provided a compilation of positive and negative comments written by other posters about each girl here on ISG. It is therefore an objective quantification of subjective reviews from other posters. Saying that the list is useless is by extension saying that ISG reviews are useless. If that's the case why should anyone bother reading or posting reviews at all? Let the man post his metrics without being overly sensitive for it not fitting your own preferences. Oh, being overly critical to new posters just discourages people from posting good information. The OP's post served a much better purpose than this overly critical one and the couple below like it.

  13. #4554
    The Gabi you're referring to is probably Eva now, and there are two Evas. I don't think that Daniela and Jane deserve to be in the negatives.

    As for the Anastasias, there have been two of them, only the brunette pretty face is still here now and I'm pretty sure that the negative comments were about the blonde one from sharks.

  14. #4553
    No offense, but a useless list which doesn't even come close to "value " the services the girls at LR provide. When I look at it I see names with one or more negative comments while in fact some of them have to booked in advance, otherwise no chance of making a room with these gems. Or the other way round. Many positive comments on girls that hardly make any rooms.

    Again, no offense, but putting a score or rating on the girls performances is a personal opinion. It can vary highly from client to client. It also brings the risk of missing out on some real gems because people go mainstream, just following along on experiences from somebody who you don't know and don't understand his background and experience in this big world of pay sex.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyBearMe  [View Original Post]
    Here comes a general overview of girls in LR. I read this thread from Page 30 in addition to one German and one Netherlands forum. I claim no accuracy or smth maybe I can be wrong about names and some performances but I believe it can give some information about girls and their services. At least for most commented ones.

    So I gave "p" for every positive comment I could find for them and "n" for the negative ones. It also includes my own visit.

    Positives.

    Amira (famous brunette hottie) : 8 p 1 n.

    Nelly (Turkish, blue eyes, rose tattoos): 6 p.

    Rose (from Hungary, long straight hair) : 5 p.

    Joanna: 5 p...

  15. #4552
    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyBearMe  [View Original Post]
    Here comes a general overview of girls in LR. I read this thread from Page 30 in addition to one German and one Netherlands forum. I claim no accuracy or smth maybe I can be wrong about names and some performances but I believe it can give some information about girls and their services. At least for most commented ones.

    So I gave "p" for every positive comment I could find for them and "n" for the negative ones. It also includes my own visit.

    Positives.

    Amira (famous brunette hottie) : 8 p 1 n.

    Nelly (Turkish, blue eyes, rose tattoos): 6 p.

    Rose (from Hungary, long straight hair) : 5 p..
    Comments are not reality, LR busiest girl since end of 2016, is not even in this grocery list. Don't believe all what you read, choose by yourself, we don t all have same tastes, for look, for way for sex. I love chic looks with elegant manners, I let public kissing or rubbing prostitutes to others, no desire for them. Woman type is important for me, meaning a woman look and care of body, not a schoolgirl nor a little monkey, even Anjelina World was a lovely, sweet, pretty little monkey for those who managed to put off her stockings, if she accepted to let them put them off, she looked at me how I did, but also a bit of woman behavior = You don't feel too much to be with a prostitute at work, but a bit of charm and elegance for behavior. For sure, when You see public exhibition, chic, charm and elegance are down, time to look for new more attractive woman type.

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