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  1. #64

    Red Carpet refers to the color of the carpet in all the clubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike De H  [View Original Post]
    Why is it "Red Carpet"?
    Quote Originally Posted by Willem2  [View Original Post]
    In fact all those clubs were owned by one man. In every club he put the same carpet because it was much cheaper.
    Just refers to the color of the carpet in the small clubs that were more prevalent than the larger clubs today.

    When I first started the fkk scene, it was the smaller 'red carpet' type clubs. Heavensgate, Cocoon, Dolce Vita etc. The selection was limited but you had some very hot local talent and a limited customer base.

  2. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelia Shiatsu  [View Original Post]
    The girls are (almost all) a little overweight, young, not particularly pretty, and from Rumania or Bulgaria.
    Sounds rather good really. Just my kind ofplace. Why is it "Red Carpet"?

  3. #62

    FKK Arabella

    Arrived here in desperation. It was my fourth choice but the first three were blocked by huge traffic jams and falling snow. A word of thanks to Wanking for his map of all the clubs in the area.

    Club site.

    http://fkk-arabella.com/

    Free entry plus 1 session=40€.2=65€.3x=75€. You have to decide on which option you are going for on the way in. You pay upfront before you change. You are given a wristband with a pullout. The girls seem to give you kudos if you enter the main room having chosen a top option.

    The bar staff explained very carefully where the lockers were etc, very happy to deal with a foreigner whose german was minimal.

    The overall impression was a very downbeat place. But then what does one expect for free entry. There was little to do (although I think there is a sauna) apart from sitting on sofas which were spread over two main rooms and were occupied by about 15 girls. Free drinks are available as is basic fod (e. G. Soup and filled rolls)

    The girls are (almost all) a little overweight, young, not particularly pretty, and from Rumania or Bulgaria. They were generally friendly and unpushy. very very limited knowledge of English. The club would not suit an optikficker. It is somewhere for someone who wants a lot of activity at reasonable prices. For example one could have four sessions (perhaps 10-20 minutes) for 85E compared to a total of entry and session (30 minutes) price of 265E in a Hessen top rank club. The girls' attitude was no worse than in the top rank clubs. So excellent amount of bang for buck literally.

    Unsure what the extra for anal would be. Some girls will offer BB for 30E (which has to be paid direct to them after the session). It's a way of boosting their income considerably.

  4. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America
    Hi C2, you inspired me to take a closer look. Went ther at 11, first guest to arrive. Found out Gaby works eveniungs only as that is a much busier time for this club.
    I may go back, but I would definitely check if lea was there first. She only works 3-4 days a week, so a call may be worth it. Oh, and I was leaving at 2 or so, a bunch of new girls were arriving. Second shift, I would guess....

    Hi Captain,

    I am glad that you enjoyed Bel Ami. If you liked the atmosphere in it, may I also suggest you to check Penelope in Essen. The girls are more beautiful, and there are more slavic girls such as some Russians and some Polish. The price is slightly higher than Bel Ami and always, there is no good food (except weekends), so you can't resist hunger and can't stay in any of those low cost FKKs, more than a couple of hours.

    Thanks also for the update,
    All the best
    C2

  5. #60

    1st time at belAmi

    Hi C2, you inspired me to take a closer look. Went ther at 11, first guest to arrive. Found out Gaby works eveniungs only as that is a much busier time for this club.
    Took Lea, 1.81m blond ukrainian, for my first session and enjoyed it a lot. when asked she told me many of teh other girls are bulgarian and only want to get to the room and out of teh room as quickly as possible.
    Almost went with Bahar because she is so hot, but, remembering C2's session, asked another punter that had beat me to her and he re-affirmed C2's assessment. nothing but "don't do that", "not like this" etc. Still, she is very beautiful so had to hold back for the rest of my stay.
    Afetr a rst cuddled up with isabella on a sofa. no couch action, but we were just talking and no hurry to go to the room. Good session but could nto finihs, so back to teh main area.
    By the way, most of the girls will not DO CIM, even though they all quote teh $25 add-on. Also, no lunch at this club.
    Saw nothing else so finihsed up with another session with Lea that was as good as teh first. mutual massage, then back to the showers and out of there after a total time of about 3 hours.
    I may go back, but I would definitely check if lea was there first. She only works 3-4 days a week, so a call may be worth it. Oh, and I was leaving at 2 or so, a bunch of new girls were arriving. Second shift, I would guess....

  6. #59

    Bel Ami trip report

    bel ami

    day 1

    this is my second visit to fkk belami. here it is my first time visit report back in december, last year.

    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=3022

    as the girls are wearing bikinis in belami, it is rather a sauna club, actually. but some still call it fkk. it was different in sauna grimsberg in gelsenkirchen (it is once upon a time sister club) where all the girls were totaly nude (this should be actually an fkk). this is rather complicated.

    even it is a sauna club or a fkk club, i really appreciated bel ami on my last visit. and it was on my radar when in the area. the chance to revisit there arised last weekend, when i was in the area to attend a messe.

    http://www.belami-fkk.de/1.htm

    i reached the club at 8ish. it was the friday and the parking lot was full. i buzzed and walked in. the thekefrau was different this time and she can speak fluent english. as the pricing structure change so quickly in these former red carpet clubs, i was suspicious about the price (once, i visited sauna grimsberg two consecutive days and the structure was different on both visit. and the real price is sometimes slightly different than announced in the web. no cheating but their web is not that accurate, so it is better to phone before showing up). the price choices this time was like that. this shows the price for the number of session (of 20 minutes each)
    1x45 euro
    2x70 euro
    3x85 euro
    4x95 euro

    the thekefrau asked me my choice. i reply 4, she gave me a wristband, my key, two towels and my card for four sessions. this friday, there were 23 girls in bel ami.



    in weekends, they serve food. so, before deciding, i get the food. there is a nice choice of giro and salad. the food is ok and this time, as the weather was nice in nrw, i had my food in openair. last time, i didn’t had the opportunity to discover the outdoor garden. now, i see that they have enough space but the garden needs some care. they have also a whirpool there, where two of the girls taking bath. when i was having my dinner outside, i saw that a group of girls eating, smoking and chating. this let me to survey and have a preliminary choice.


    anastacia

    this weekend, there were enough charming girls to fulfill my desire and to fulfill my wristcard, i though. i spotted a nice girl with blue eyes. at first sight, from a distance look, i though she may be joana i sessioned 7 months ago in villa venus-dusiburg, but when i looked her from close distance, i realised this is a much younger girl, according to web info, she is 23. i guessed she was german, but wrong guess. she told she was russian, this better works for me. she told that her name is anastassia, her pictures in the web, she has deep blue eyes and perfect skin. i asked her if the dfk is allowed, she confirmed that this is an extra of 5 euro. a real cheap extra, so gattonero should be right, but i couldn’t see any board announcing the tarif fort he extras, on the other hand.

    i take anastassia as my first choice. in the room, i asked if i can buy the extra of dfk but she told she doesn’t do that and added; “you should ask other girls”. her english was broken but still ok. she has a nice skin, perfect, tiny and tight body. she rushed me a bit so i released my load in 12 minutes. her skills wasn’t that good as she was a teen, but more experimented girls has not the same tight body? or do they have?
    after my first session, we went to theke and i paid 95 euro for all my four sessions, already, in advance. so, please be carefull and please read the deep note ps3. and everytime after your session, you come to theke and they write the name of the girl and if any extra taken or not.

    gaby

    second choice was gaby. she is a nice girl from poland. i surveyed her being always with guys in the couches. she had some admirer. i waited the right time when she was not busy and complimented her in polish language. she is also beautiful, on my scale. she is more beautiful than its pictures in the web. i take her immediately to the room. wow, in the room, what a super performance. a real sucker, nice and long bbbj skill. later, i turned it into mish, then doggy and spoon, because of her super performance and my suck was stil fully loaded, because of the horniest, i exploded into her after 15 min.

    after this great performance, i knew i wouldn’t find the same service level from another girl in bel ami, so i considered to repeat here. but i was also in dilemma, because there were so many attractive girls in bel ami, and i had only two more place on my card. should i repeat the best service provider or should i screw some more beautiful pussies, even i know the next sessions would be crap. here is the conversation of this dilemma (credit to plover23 for the inspiration of brain-dick conversation)

    brain says;” you should repeat gaby. it is hard to find this service level in a red carpet.
    dick replies: “no, i should screw that lady in red, she is a stunner”
    brain says: “she is a bulgarian. probably, it will be the worst session of the day”
    dick replies: “i need to have her, otherwise i won’t obey your order any more, i won’t get it up and sleep all day long
    brain complies.


    bahar

    she is the tall and slim lady in the red. she has a nice figure and a nice face. but when i speak to her, i get at once she is a shark (a shark in a red carpet? this is only 20 euro/session). she offered a trio with her bulgarian girlfriend which i didn’t accept. my crazy dick wanted her alone. if i don’t do with her, probably, it may punish me! before going to the room with her, i asked permission to go to the toilet to [CodeWord134], then i cleaned myself in the shower. when we gone to the room, she told my dick is not cleaned enough (this wasn’t true at all) and she will do cbj. i told i cleaned it in the shower but she put the condom for bj. then she says my dick was to thick form e and she forget her gelly at home. no problem for me, i told and i slided mine into hers, carefully. she told she has pain, i wish i could stop, my dick didn’t want to stop now. i convinced her to do some several positions and released my load after 20 min. even this should be a success to stay 20 min with a bulgarian girl in the room. my brain wasn’t satisfied at all but my dick was obviously satisfied. i can see the production.



    melina

    ok, this was my last chance (actually, it wasn’t the last chance. when your card finishes, you may still stay in the club and pay the girls directly 20 euro, after each sessions). should i repeat gaby? but dick has another option. there was another, very beautiful, bulgarian young girl, with the loveliest hip i have ever see in this club. she told me her name was melisa, but in the web, i found a picture of an italian girl named melina. i checked her picture and her buttock. she should be the same bulgarian girl. when she was walking in front of me the whole night, i was always thinking this should be the best butt in the world and if a man only have these to touch or sleep with, what else can dream.

    i decided to speak with her and scan her. she told she was also bulgarian. this should be a “no go” under normal condition. this is a red flag for a bad service.

    brain told; “no go, she isn't good. go and fuck gabi”
    dick told; “gabi is not available right now”
    brain told; “she will be available soon”
    dick told; “melina would not stay alone. somebody else will take her, if you don’t do it”
    brain told; “you will be disappointed after you go out the room”
    dick told; “only jlo has the same butt, i should pump her, and beside, you can choose gabi as your fifth session, any time”

    dick won the battle, i take melina to the room. service was crap, of course, but she has a lovely, white, pale body. in the room, dick pumped that white butt for about 20 min, until it is dead because of dehydration, it gave the last drops to melina. dick was happy before dying, brain wasn’t satisfied again.

    brain was searching gabi, for a repeat session, but she was always busy. it was now 4 am and i was drained out, i called it a night. when changed and went out, it was dusk, early little birds singing their love songs in german. i take my german rental car, and hardly drove to my hotel on 15 km away (mainly because of the fatigue). when i get my hotel room, i slept with ease, because both my dick and my brain was tired but they were happy. i had a lovely whole night for just 95 euro. i like travelling across germany.

    next day, day 2, will be followed by another former red carpet club fkk salome where i met some russian and some polish chicks. so, the addicted to polish and russians, stay tuned till next episode.

    ps1: credit of brain and dick conversation to plover23. thanks again pal, to give this inspiration to write such a colorfull report.

    ps2: i believe the majority of the customers were turkish but there were also some german customers in the club. the music, the speaking language by the clientele and by some girls is also turkish. i made some conversations with some of the turkish customers, they are mostly easygoing, funny guys. they says that bel ami was much better, before. and if there is a stunner and a high performer girl, the owner pick her to invest in another of his clubs. the former vitalis chain disappeared but there still should be some sort of chain, at least in nrw. i am disappointed, i couldn’t see those days with deutsche mark. maybe,those were the days… but i am still happy with those former red carpets, what it is today, as good as it gets…

    ps3: those local regular turkish guys are very clever! i saw many of them entering the club by asking only one shot but later, they keep staying in the club for long hours and they check the line-up. if they click with some girls, or if they see new girls arrived, after their first session, they pay it directly to the girl. check the price list once more! the club always want to have its cut, even they says the entrance is free, they want to receive 25 euro as an entrance money, the rest is for the girls. if you want to do shoot two rounds, paying directly is more economical, and shooting once or three make no difference, either paying the whole amount to the club or to the girls directly, just bring with you some 20 euro notes, that’s all. only if you know that you will spend four rounds (which is the most cheapest per sessions) at any cost, just then you should commit for four rounds. otherwise, if you commit while entering four rounds and you don’t like the line-up, you may ruin your day.

  7. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman
    Bareback sex or does the 'without' refer to the girls being in the nude? Creature2, since you visited one of the clubs what's the ruling?

    Most of the girls were naked in Grimsberg Sauna and some of them wears sexy panties. When you go to the room, the girls offer you (or try to upsell)bareback sex without condom. Later, I asked what was the extra for it, and been told it was 50 Euro extra per session (where the sessions, itself, were cheaper than that). Romanian and Bulgarian girls offer bareback. Quite the contrary, there were some German, half-pro girls who refuses this service, as well.

    I dont have any information about Arabella, but as long as I saw via the entrance, there were totaly naked woman in the club. If their web site announce "Alles Ohne", this should mean, the girls perform bareback sex, even bareback anal, if asked or requested.

  8. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Gattonero

    Each one claims to have 15 girls offering bareback sex (A.O.).
    Bareback sex or does the 'without' refer to the girls being in the nude? Creature2, since you visited one of the clubs what's the ruling?

  9. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Gattonero
    According to their web homesite, Saunaclub Arabella in Bochum and Grimberg Saunaclub in Gelsenkirchen have turn themself into bareback sex clubs.

    Each one claims to have 15 girls offering bareback sex (A.O.).

    Both clubs offer free entry and interesting multiple sessions offers:

    Saunaclub Arabella: 1x40€, 2x65€, 3x80€
    Grimberg Saunaclub: 1x55€, 2x75€, 3x85€, 4x95€ (and starting from 21:00, special offer 1x45€, 2x65€, 3x80€)

    Might be a good alternative to those partytreff which offer single room service. Anybody can report his first hand experience?
    I have been to Grimberg twice. It was fun. Nice club, nice rooms, self service drink, no food, decent line-up near to the FKK quality with some German girls as well (which is rare to find in partytreffs) and really a nice alternative to partytreffs. I think I posted my reports in other FKKs thread. Will check and give the links later.

    Went to Arabella also and refused entry, they said I can't speak German ! And the club was just for German speaking guest! WTF!

  10. #55

    Red Carpet Clubs

    Any reports from mebers on these recently mentioned clubs? They certainly seem less expensive and unlike the parties, seem to offer 1:1 GFE time, which I am into. 3 of them seem to be under the same management since they have links to each other. Any info about the girls, services would be greatly appreciated!

  11. #54

    Former red-carpet clubs turn into bareback sex clubs

    According to their web homesite, Saunaclub Arabella in Bochum and Grimberg Saunaclub in Gelsenkirchen have turn themself into bareback sex clubs.

    Each one claims to have 15 girls offering bareback sex (A.O.).

    Both clubs offer free entry and interesting multiple sessions offers:

    Saunaclub Arabella: 1x40€, 2x65€, 3x80€
    Grimberg Saunaclub: 1x55€, 2x75€, 3x85€, 4x95€ (and starting from 21:00, special offer 1x45€, 2x65€, 3x80€)

    Might be a good alternative to those partytreff which offer single room service. Anybody can report his first hand experience?

  12. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark User
    As I said, it never mentions, and I don't remember the hausfrau saying anything about time. Just "1 girl 65, 2 girls, 95..."

    Did they ask you upon your entry, how much you are gonna spend? And did you paid the fee at the entrance to the thekefrau?

  13. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark User
    I don't actually remember anything about time mentioned! Maybe I wasn't paying attention. I'm not a clock watcher, and I had 3 very substantial sessions, clearly more than 30 minutes total if you add couch time plus room time, so I wasn't complaining (and apparently wasn't noticing!)

    on this page: http://www.fkk-40-dietzenbach.de/preise.html
    they say nothing about time, just "x".

    As I said, it never mentions, and I don't remember the hausfrau saying anything about time. Just "1 girl 65, 2 girls, 95..."

    Maybe next trip I can ask. Heck, by then they will have changed the pay pattern again, likely! It's been different every time I go there for the last several years! (pay the house, pay the girls direct, pay some to the house some to the girls, etc)

    Those ex-red carpets and small clubs change their price structure so often. You should check it out before paying a visit.
    Once in a small red carpet club in Gelsenkirschen, I saw two different pricing in two consecutive days.

    Last time I was in Dietzenbach, back in January, there was an offer of free entrance and 2 girls for 85 Euro, 3 girls 105 Euro, 5 girls 150 Euro. But I didn't chose this offer, I simply paid the happy hour entrance (25E) and I bought 2 x 20 min (for 40E each). I asked Angie for 15 min - 30E service but she says most of the girls won't do that (even the thekefrau cleared at the entrance, it was available).

  14. #51

    Dietzenbach 20 minutes or 30?

    Quote Originally Posted by Creature2
    That price should be for three 20 minutes sessions. If I recall well, they charge 50 Euro for 30 minutes sessions. Or did they decreased the price per sessions (30 min)?
    I don't actually remember anything about time mentioned! Maybe I wasn't paying attention. I'm not a clock watcher, and I had 3 very substantial sessions, clearly more than 30 minutes total if you add couch time plus room time, so I wasn't complaining (and apparently wasn't noticing!)

    on this page: http://www.fkk-40-dietzenbach.de/preise.html
    they say nothing about time, just "x".

    As I said, it never mentions, and I don't remember the hausfrau saying anything about time. Just "1 girl 65, 2 girls, 95..."

    Maybe next trip I can ask. Heck, by then they will have changed the pay pattern again, likely! It's been different every time I go there for the last several years! (pay the house, pay the girls direct, pay some to the house some to the girls, etc)

  15. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark User
    The "real" price is 35 euros to enter, and 30 euros per session. But they advertise now:

    http://www.fkk-40-dietzenbach.de/

    that entrance is FREE, and that the first girl costs 65 euro (35 for the house, 30 for the girl), etc. then if you go with 2 girls the total would be 95, and if you go with three girls, the total would be 125 euro. If you go with no girls, you then pay the house 35 euros.

    So 3 sessions at 125

    That price should be for three 20 minutes sessions. If I recall well, they charge 50 Euro for 30 minutes sessions. Or did they decreased the price per sessions (30 min)?

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