Bangkok Reports

[TwilightZoner]

Day 7.

Headed off to Pratunam shopping district. Man! That place is a maze of corridors and alleyways of stalls and shops. Unfortunately 90% of the shops and stall sell women's wear. Men's stuff could be considered a needle in a haystack. Those that I found were mainly printed Ts, branded (yeah, right) clothes or fuckboi clothing. After all that, I only ended up with a pair of cargo pants. Giving up, I headed of CentralwOrld. I had originally planned to visit there to check out the G-Shock shop. Ended up getting myself another watch.

Later that day, I headed back to MBK to collect my suits. Tried them on and was pretty happy with them. The owner asked if I could make a comment on the Youtube video that led me to his shop. Of course I obliged and ended up being gifted 2 silk ties!!

Day 8.

Made a booking to return for another massage at Spring Massage. I originally wanted to try other places but I had to return to try their 'Jaguen / Jabkasai' massage. I found that they had a 2 HR Deep Tissue & Spring Massage package (Spring being the Jabkasai / Genital massage). Made a booking and off I went to Soi 24.

Before I continue, I wish to reiterate why I'm doing this. This particular type of massage is like any type of legitimate massage ie Thai, oil, aromatherapy, deep tissue. The only difference is, it is focused on the genitals. Like a normal massage, it is to promote relaxation, circulation and general wellbeing. Nothing sensual, provocative, sexual or happy ending. I believe I suffer from a mild form of erectile disfunction. While I can get it up, maintaining it is the problem. There is NO such treatment where I live. The only solution is in pill form and even then it's not 100% guaranteed. After my first treatment, not only was it hard and upright, it performed VERY well to my satisfaction. This treatment is a means to an end. It allows me to fully enjoy the MPs here. Take from this what you will but don't disparage it based on your own bias.

On arrival, I was led to a dimly lit room with massage beds and a shower. After showering I hopped on to the bed and the therapist came in. She was a pleasant middle aged lady with really strong fingers. The deep tissue was painful as expected but it wasn't as bad as my first session. After she completed my back and legs, she had me get up on all fours and proceeded to work around my rear and genitals. Lots of oil, firm pressure and acupressure. No prostate massage. The surprise was when she applied the hot stones and oil. Learn something new every day. It was very relaxing.

Once that was done, she told me to flip over. Seriously, that was an effort. My body was so limp that I struggled! Once I was set, off she went. She worked on my chest, neck, arms and legs. Once done, she spread my legs and positioned herself between them. She firmly massaged my stomach (much like the other Jabkasai session) and then got to work on my genitals. Again, it was pretty much like the first Jabkasai session BUT this therapist took a lot longer and paid more attention to detail. There was a lot of acupressure work done on my pubic area and inner thighs. I found that the muscle fibres in my inner thighs were super tight. Again, hot stones were applied! All in all, I can say that this part of the treatment, while there were some painful moment, it was definitely pleasant. Not enjoyable. Not pleasurable. Very, very clinical. When she finished, she wiped off all the oil with a hot towel and had me sit up to work on my shoulders. Oh Lord! My body felt so heavy and WEAK. Which I take to be a good sign, terribly thirsty as well which was another good sign. When she was done, she instructed me NOT to shower as she has already removed the excess oil with the hot towels. It would also allow the infused oil to absorb through my skin.

Cost? 3000 B for 2 hours. Worth it? Hell yeah. Will be heading out soon to the Happy Ending parlours soon to enjoy the fruits of her labor.

[Paolo99]

Dang it! I hit the ground ion January and that was one of the first places I was headed to!

You just saved a trip to Korea town, there's nothing left there, except if you like to eat in the restaurants over there.

probably the only guy here who avoids Foodland. To me, its overpriced meh.

On Fridays, I used to do down to the place across from the Grace. The Bamboo- Fabulous plov.

A bit overpriced for basic Thai foods I agree, but at least I've never been put aside for the next 2-3 days after eating there.

Bamboo being a Lebanese / Middle eastern restaurant I believed prices were more expensive than elsewhere.

[Explorer8939]

Big bad warning about hopping bars. Don't let Barfine say she want go Bar where she has Friends.

You not buy Drinkie for everyone and their Mother will cause extreme loss of Face.

Rule one of Cavorting with Prostitute s. We are ATMs.

LOL. Don't you forget it.

Bingo.

Also, don't stop at the 7/11 on the way to the hotel.

[Houston Player]

I mean, lets not BS ourselves. There's no need to buy these girls drinks or any of that shit anyways. All they want is your money, if you want to bang them, just do it and forget the lady drinks.

HaHa spa guys telling go-go guys how to spend their money. I love it. I never go to a Go-Go bar looking to barfine a lady. I go because I like drinking with my friends and my favorite girls. Also I can afford to do it. If I want to have sex and I mean great sex just the way I prefer it I text one of my many lady friends to come over.

I only occasionally barfine a lady and it's not to have sex but because we're having such a good time together. I'm most likely already too drunk to enjoy sex to a satisfatory finish anyway. If I want to have sex with her I'll tell her to come over the next day when I'm not drinking.

If I started posting about all of my daily experiences I'd be confused with Explorer xxx 5555.

I don't recommend what I do to anyone but my friends and I go out to dinner and drinking 2 nights a week.

[EihTooms]

Might be posted double. Similar Thoughts.

Imagine bar hopping. You showing your 10 to everyone. You the Man.

Then all her Friends show up wanting a Drinkie-. Are you Brave enough to say F. K OFF.
...

Actually, yes. Well, "Fuck Off" would be too harsh. But I will buy 1 Lady Drink for 1 of my chosen girl's "friend, sister, cousin", whatever. Then when the follow up friend, sister, cousin shows up asking for a drink and I don't want to buy them one I simply wai, smile and say "Mai dai. " (can not). I will even refuse that way when my girl asks me to buy one for them if I am not interested in meeting the new girl. An exception might be a LD for the mamasan in that bar if my girl is in tight with her or whatever.

Contrary to what seems to be other posters' experiences, refusng to buy LDs for my chosen girl's friends, even if asked to by her, has never negatively effected my session with that girl later. That is, IF I have secured an upfront agreement from her before paying her barfine or taking her that we will have DFK, DATY, BBBJ and Real Sex without a condom. If it is only a "Go With The Flow And See What Happens In The Room" situation, any nightmare scenario can and, for me, often does follow based on anything, everything or nothing that happens prior to bedtime sex.

But I must be one of those "psychos" mentioned here every now and then, LOL, because my experiences over the past 10 years of living and mongering here run contrary to what I read here on a whole host of issues, not just that one.

Among them:

- Note I said I will buy the mamasan a Lady Drink in the above situation. I used to avoid mamasans, thinking as most seem to believe here that they are unnecessary interlopers. Yes, they would be if you are fine with whatever basic standard Thai P4 P fare the girl is going to dole out to you and your only negotiation points are regarding price and maybe ST vs LT. You don't want a mamasan involved in that. But if you like the idea that the mamasan might be very helpful in bringing girls to you who have been vetted for the very services, with you, that I cited above in my upfront agreement requests, buy that old bag a LD, be friendly with her, tell her what you like, want, need for a Happy Barfine Experience and chances are very good she will save you a lot of wasted LD purchases in the future for prospects that will never work out well for you anyway.

- I have no problem reducing the fee for a girl on subsequent sessions if I am dazzled enough by her to want repeats. Oh, she might balk a bit when you tell her the new rate. But I have repeated many times with girls I took from bars who would not budge from, say, 3000 for ST (on my terms) the first time for 2000 - 2500 on subsequent sessions.

- I find young and above average looking Bangkok gogo girls to be far more agreeable to my above cited upfront agreement requests than less attractive, supposedly more desperate girls on the street or supposedly more sexually raunchy girls in the specifically Happy Ending or PSE shops.

To name just a few.

And my contrary experiences don't only go positive for me:

- I have never met a "poor" Thai prostitute who is forced to do any damn thing she isn't ok to do for any amount of money high or low. Not talking about street girls who collapse drunk and unconscious on the sidewalk. But just about every one of them above that are certainly not "poor" by Thai standards. Hell, not even "poor" by USA standards if you've traveled much around the states. So this idea that they are living a terrible lives doing horrible things they hate to do for ugly old men just does not jive with my experiences and observations over the years. Thai prostitutes of any age and physical appearance have never been reluctant to say "NO" to me for any and all of my above cited requests as long as there is at least one other customer prospect in the area. And there always is. That is also something worth remembering when they hit you with that "my baby has no milk, my grandma is sick and has no money" stuff. Thai prostitutes we meet in these red light districts are not "poor".

A related topic:

- Multiple sessions and repeats do not improve the chances of BBFS+CIP with a Thai girl, P4 P or regular, who initially said "No" to it with me. LOL. At least not up to and including 3-4 repeats. Again, talking about how some of MY experiences run contrary to what I read here.

As always, YMMV.

[GrapeMan]

Big bad warning about hopping bars. Don't let Barfine say she want go Bar where she has Friends.

You not buy Drinkie for everyone and their Mother will cause extreme loss of Face.

Rule one of Cavorting with Prostitute s. We are ATMs.

LOL. Don't you forget it.

I mean, lets not BS ourselves. There's no need to buy these girls drinks or any of that shit anyways. All they want is your money, if you want to bang them, just do it and forget the lady drinks.

[Tim Timms]

Might be posted double. Similar Thoughts.

Imagine bar hopping. You showing your 10 to everyone. You the Man.

Then all her Friends show up wanting a Drinkie-. Are you Brave enough to say F. K OFF.

Your $200 barfine might cost you $500 or more depending on your constitution. Haha.

I've seen it numerous times a guy sits at a Rainbow with his Brown Barfine. Over time one thinks that's a lot of drinks that guy is Buying. Everyone having a good time except him.

[Tim Timms]

Big bad warning about hopping bars. Don't let Barfine say she want go Bar where she has Friends.

You not buy Drinkie for everyone and their Mother will cause extreme loss of Face.

Rule one of Cavorting with Prostitute s. We are ATMs.

LOL. Don't you forget it.

[Houston Player]

You should absolutely do what works for you, but in the long run over many, many girls this strategy is not optimal. So, I suggest that once you have left the Go Go with your girl, it makes no difference if your arrangement is ST or LT, take her back to your place and straight away get it on. After you have enjoyed the sex is the best time to go out for dinner or barhop with your girl if you and she still want to. Why? Because:

1. I don't know about you, but I shag better on an empty stomach. The sex is always better before a meal.

2. You never know what can happen when you delay sexual gratification and barhop first. The girl can drink too much and that can really screw up your plans for the evening or her attitude can change.

Therefor my advice is strike while the feeling is right. Have sex first and party or dine afterwards. And if the girl wants to run back to her Go Go, so be it. It is her loss, not yours. Grab something to eat, relax, and go out and look for another girl. This is one of the things I love about BKK. Looking for that 2nd girl of the evening after the 1st girl has left.

You give excellent advise for visitors however I live here so this advice is useless for me. I know exactly how to have a great time here everday. I was just letting Bravo11 know that he can still have a good time as in the past if that's what he wants to do.

[Nyezhov]

I like the pomegranate juice drinks sold on the roadside. That stuff is sooooooo refreshing!! Been plowing into the mangoes, pineapples and watermelons as well!

Hint: Its probably not the real thing if you buy it in the tourist district.

I used to frequent that place too and was disappointed to see it doesn't exist anymore.

Couldn't find a replacement, do you know of other places like that?

Dang it! I hit the ground ion January and that was one of the first places I was headed to!

Even the workers in that place hasn't changed, at least in the last 5 years.

The place is clean, food is good and never had problems the next days after eating there.

I'm probably the only guy here who avoids Foodland. To me, its overpriced meh.

On Fridays, I used to do down to the place across from the Grace. The Bamboo- Fabulous plov.

[Axel Heyst]

Yes and they also like to go to bars where they used to work and still have many friends working there. It can be a real party if you don't mind spending a little money or in my case spending a lot of money. 555.

You should absolutely do what works for you, but in the long run over many, many girls this strategy is not optimal. So, I suggest that once you have left the Go Go with your girl, it makes no difference if your arrangement is ST or LT, take her back to your place and straight away get it on. After you have enjoyed the sex is the best time to go out for dinner or barhop with your girl if you and she still want to. Why? Because:

1. I don't know about you, but I shag better on an empty stomach. The sex is always better before a meal.

2. You never know what can happen when you delay sexual gratification and barhop first. The girl can drink too much and that can really screw up your plans for the evening or her attitude can change.

Therefor my advice is strike while the feeling is right. Have sex first and party or dine afterwards. And if the girl wants to run back to her Go Go, so be it. It is her loss, not yours. Grab something to eat, relax, and go out and look for another girl. This is one of the things I love about BKK. Looking for that 2nd girl of the evening after the 1st girl has left.

[Jayagopal50]

Day 4 Continued.

After smashing out the previous post, I headed out again to continue completing my shopping list. Headed to Platinum Mall. Originally, I had planned to go to the Pratunam Shopping District but after the morning session. Maybe next time. Rather than walk through every floor of the mall, I went directly to the 4th floor where the men's clothes were. It still took me a while and effort to find what I liked. It's definitely pricier than Chatuchak but the quality's good and they had what I wanted.

Feeling peckish, I headed to the food stalls outside and feasted! Ah. Food. One of the main reasons coming here!

Very informative report. I was wondering if worthwhile to learn how SIDELINE operates with LINE for a short trip of 5 nights. The girls look Lucious although pictures are sure to be Photoshopped, and Prices are very good.

[Houston Player]

Interesting, thanks for the info. Nice move on your part.

BG's like to bar hop. Gives them a chance to 1) check out the competition, and 2) look for other places of employment, all under the cover of keeping you company. And, back in "the day", when Patpong had upstairs bars that were dubious, a bg from Nana or Cowboy would keep you from getting ripped off as she wanted your wallet for herself (personal experience).

Yes and they also like to go to bars where they used to work and still have many friends working there. It can be a real party if you don't mind spending a little money or in my case spending a lot of money. 555.

[11Bravo]

You can still do this if you want. Many go-go girls will go eat with you or bar hopping or both if that's what you want to do. Especially if you're paying for long time. I've barfined recently and took a girl bar hopping before we went back to my condo and I didn't even have to pay for long time. She left soon after sex. I did pay the LT barfine rate so she could decide if she wanted to return to the bar or go home after I cut her loose. I only paid her short time rate.

Interesting, thanks for the info. Nice move on your part.

BG's like to bar hop. Gives them a chance to 1) check out the competition, and 2) look for other places of employment, all under the cover of keeping you company. And, back in "the day", when Patpong had upstairs bars that were dubious, a bg from Nana or Cowboy would keep you from getting ripped off as she wanted your wallet for herself (personal experience).

[Nounce]

if the Hyatt Regency is girl friendly?

I stayed there a few times. They are girl friendly, In fact, you can bring girl directly upstairs without checking ID. They will check if you bring girl to them. You can also bypass reception at Park Hyatt as well.