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  1. #47204

    My Two Cents

    I don't get the argument taking a working girl to dinner is a waste of time and money and means nothing to her. I agree taking her to a high end overpriced restaurant will not impress her any more than taking her somewhere more reasonably priced and importantly serves food she likes. In my opinion it does make a difference for both parties and results in a better experience back in the room. The stereotypical image of the money grubbing uneducated uncultured country girl only good for fucking is sadly all too prevalent particularly among the older, more tired and generally disgruntled with life mongers. If you are willing to pay her for her time why not spend some of it getting to know her over a plate of som tam and a glass of the house wine. Who knows just maybe just possibly you might learn something new something interesting you didn't know about Thai girls.

  2. #47203

    Traditional religious blessing

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertLong  [View Original Post]
    Eat lite and fuck long.
    That sir is a phrase that pays.

    Love your work.

  3. #47202
    Quote Originally Posted by Applesauce  [View Original Post]
    Agreed. Now for an unpopular opinion: Some guys arrive in Thailand carrying their western values and think that all working girls are poor and have never experienced the good life. So these guys take the girls out to a 1,500 THB dinner thinking they're the girls' knight in shining armor. But the reality is the girls couldn't care less about dinner with us punters or where it happens to be. Put that dinner money towards their tip if you're going to go that route.
    If I may offer a possible reason some first time Bkk punters might think a special dinner in a fancy restaurant is in order for some of these Thai girls; look at their photos and profiles on the dating sites from ThaiCupid and ThaiFriendly all the way down to booty call sites like Tinder. LOL. Many of the girls, including upfront honest Freelancers, feature pics of themselves glammed up in cocktail dresses, raising a long stemmed wine glass at a table with an ice bucket and a champagne bottle wrapped in linen!

    I have lost count of how many Thai hookers on those sites post pics of themselves standing in front of the Eiffel Tower or on a gondola in Venice! LOL. And not selfies. Some dude who has taken them there is unseen behind the camera phone.

    So I can see why many punters planning to come to Bkk for the first time but have perused the online meeting sites could have the wrong impression of what it takes to inspire some of these girls to drop their panties with a smile rather than begrudgingly. Or is it slowing getting closer to the right impression these days. Only tme will tell.

  4. #47201
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralM  [View Original Post]
    Have a hotel near Thermae, don't want to boom boom at the hotel over the bar. I really like the idea of dinner then taking her back to my hotel 10-15 min walk away. Can someone recommend a restaurant near Thermae? Maybe where its only 500 baht per person? Or do the ladies expect a fancy meal?
    You first meet and fuck with a girl is certainly not a date. Don't bother. Once you know each other for a long time, and there is a certain chemistry developing then can go for a date if she is interested. Better not to get emotionally hooked on hookers though.

    Many of us got Girlfriends accidentally without meaning to. If its a hooker though, you can be sure her motivation is financial, at least at the start, and maybe forever.

    I don't really understand what Escorts are for other than sex, so maybe I am biased. I don't need to hire a girl just to have her listen to me yack, but can get such a girl in a bar like Crazy Cats, if needed.

    Only a small portion of the girls are educated to very good English levels.

  5. #47200
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    As for dinner, Thai girls don't care about fancy restaurants. Want to make a Thai girl happy? Take her to a Thai restaurant or buy her some street food for 80 baht. Take her to a hot pot place like Shabushi or MK or a Japanese restaurant like Fuji. I have taken girls to nice Western restaurants and they go straight to the Thai section of the menu!
    I agree with some. I once took Mrs to expensive French restaurant. She did not understand the food really, and was upset about how many thousand baht wasted on the bill.

    She likes Japanese, now that I got her used to raw fish, however Fuji is really at the shitty end of the Japanese spectrum, okay For Thai girls that don't know any better. A vastly higher quality can be found. Fuji is sort of pretending to be Japanese but you won't see Japanese guys eating there, I think.

    You certainly are an optimist when it comes to girl earnings. While it is true that the elite hookers are making big money, it is certainly not the norm, with many girls struggling to get customers sufficiently, they could be the very plain lookers. This adds even more to the girl not being impressed if the good money gets wasted on food instead of on her. Girls can admire a posh hotel room, but they really don't care if they are getting paid well, and room is at least clean.

    Some girls can have very high amounts to pay each month for the child's education, so even they earn a lot can still be struggling with the bills. I recall only really 1 regular girl for last few years that was really making big money. She was a gogo girl, body just perfect and could do 3+ short times per night, sometimes more on a busy night. Not keen on LT naturally, unless her regular customer.

    Saying you would like to pay less than 5K for a girl per 24 hours, flies in the face of the girl making big money. Inconsistent. The girl I know making big money certainly would not do 24 hours for as little as 5K when she could get multiple STs per day, and be left lots of time to herself.

  6. #47199
    Quote Originally Posted by CrudeDirk  [View Original Post]
    Bangkok Beat was always my fav bar. Good bands, beer was a reasonable price, nice venue, great location and the girls were great, mostly casual SW's.

    But of course it's long gone now. Where would you recommend that might be similar?

    I usually end up at Hillary 4 these days, seems to have the same girls there. Is there a better place, I do like to watch the bands.

    Cheers!
    Some of the bands at BB were also abysmal, and just too loud to do any talking. Ha ha.

    I found the band with Philippine singers at Corner Bar Soi Cowboy, that starts up after midnight to be reasonably talented (at least acceptable sound to my ears), and taking requests. The before midnight band was just heavy metal out of tune yelling. Hopeless.

    There are some hostesses there too.

    I am sure there are some better locations else where, but I generally hate discos.

  7. #47198

    Bangkok Beat

    Bangkok Beat was always my fav bar. Good bands, beer was a reasonable price, nice venue, great location and the girls were great, mostly casual SW's.

    But of course it's long gone now. Where would you recommend that might be similar?

    I usually end up at Hillary 4 these days, seems to have the same girls there. Is there a better place, I do like to watch the bands.

    Cheers!

  8. #47197
    Quote Originally Posted by Applesauce  [View Original Post]
    Agreed. Now for an unpopular opinion: Some guys arrive in Thailand carrying their western values and think that all working girls are poor and have never experienced the good life. So these guys take the girls out to a 1,500 THB dinner thinking they're the girls' knight in shining armor. But the reality is the girls couldn't care less about dinner with us punters or where it happens to be. Put that dinner money towards their tip if you're going to go that route.
    I agree with you 100%. Contrary to some guy's beliefs, that little Thai girl we're with likely makes more money than we do. Their income is tax free. A top gogo girl gets 5000 for LT plus 500 tip, let's say she cleared 20 drinks in a night that's another 1000 baht, then she is paid for her contract say 1000 baht each night although in many cases it's more. Then she has maybe 3+ sponsors each giving her maybe 30,000 per month (1000 per night). That totals 8500 baht ($279 USD) per night with no taxes. That's over 100,000 USD net per year. I'm certain not many guys make that much.

    This doesn't only apply to gogo girls. In the Good Old days of 2016, I knew some top massage and Soi 6 girls who saw 8 customers per day. Even at 1,000 plus 100 tip, they made $289 USD net per day.

    As for dinner, Thai girls don't care about fancy restaurants. Want to make a Thai girl happy? Take her to a Thai restaurant or buy her some street food for 80 baht. Take her to a hot pot place like Shabushi or MK or a Japanese restaurant like Fuji. I have taken girls to nice Western restaurants and they go straight to the Thai section of the menu!

  9. #47196
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertLong  [View Original Post]
    If your self esteem requires that you be seen at a roof top resto with a hot Thai lady, go for it. But her mind is in your wallet and she could care less about you except what and when you will pay her.
    Agreed. Now for an unpopular opinion: Some guys arrive in Thailand carrying their western values and think that all working girls are poor and have never experienced the good life. So these guys take the girls out to a 1,500 THB dinner thinking they're the girls' knight in shining armor. But the reality is the girls couldn't care less about dinner with us punters or where it happens to be. Put that dinner money towards their tip if you're going to go that route.

  10. #47195
    YngMong just posted a concise, very informative trip report of his recent adventures in BKK. I have moved it over here to the BKK Reports section in case anyone missed it. The key points I liked were 1. Street Food is good 2. You are probably going to spend more than you planned on, but don't let that curtail your activities. You only live once! HA HA. 3. Try to check out as many different venues (Go Go's, SW's, Hostess bars, & massage parlors) as you can, but don't spread yourself out too thin and try to see & do everything. It is most important to take the time to smell the roses of which there are many.

    Quote Originally Posted by YngMong  [View Original Post]
    Arrived via DMK could not get a grab taxi was about 350 baht 45 minutes. Got a sim with DTAC next True Move booth was cheaper then theirs.

    Stayed at the Ibis 4, about $35 usd a night room was clean basic but good. The only dislike was the strong smell of cleaner chemical when checked in. Few hours of running the AC solved that. Its about 3-5 minute walk from NP. There is an amazing food setup on the sidewalk same aide right next door best fried rice and pad Thai 50 baht each. Lots of foreigners and Thai eating there. Also midway there is a lady that sells the best fried chicken I ever had. There's a few she was around or just a bit past Hillary 2.

    Checked in and took the BTS to see View at Tulip more in depth posted there but short summary good experience but with so much on offer in BKK I would not go back especially if staying for a few days. She was the only decent looking one.

    Later in afternoon hit up Hilary 2 for beers and pool. Best day time bar IMO for atmosphere, location and ladies although More on that later. Met a wingman which was nice as I found it a lot more fun.

    Early evening hit up Soi Cowboy. Started with Suzie as I heard there was a ping pong show. Place sucked. Skip it.

    Next Kazy Kozy. This is my top GG entertainment wise. Most of the time ot was girls trying to half ass dance around on the stage but when the shoe started, Jesus F Christ. Talking about girls dripping hot candle wax on each other, girl pulling a 10 ft long string of flowers from her puss and the cherry on top a full on fuck fest with a strap on. Wild highly recommended. Lots of hotties.

    Then back to Nana check out Spankys, which was good but hard to top Kazy Kozy and perhaps but don't remember so must of been not memorable. My wingman found his friend the night but I wasn't feeling anything decided to make the walk of shame back hotel alone. Decided to stroll by the infamous Nana sign to see what was left. Stumbled across a cutie around 22-25 named Flour then realized she's part of the deaf squad, something I wanted to try as part of some sick craving I had watching some off the bkk112 videos. 1500 baht st didn't bother negotiations as was good for me. The pace she was running to my hotel I could tell she wanted to be over quick. Whatever I was tired and drunk. She was a blast, so tiny I could almost launch her with a hard thrust. Although this is terrible the squeals she made were fantastic. Especially when I unexpectedly blasted over her body. Was a quick but fun session. Then sleep as I had an early start next day doing a bicycle tour which I would also highly recommend. Got back to Nana around 7 of a full day of sun good food and exploring some off beaten parts of Bangkok.

    Friend and I decided to hit up Billboard which was pretty good and then butterflies again I wasn't really seeing anything I wanted to barfine and was quite enjoying buying a ld and trying out a girl for a few minutes. Finally mammasan brought me a 22 tall nice tits innocent smile but smile eyes that said fuck me please. No brainer 1200 baht BF 3 k st 5000 LT it was still early and I had nasty plans for her I took her LT. She could definitely be in a tul tuk patrol video. My friend wasn't seeing anything he liked but my dates suggested she knew someone at playskoop the gogo she use to work out but which we found out that it had much less traffic then butterflies she moved. Went down to playskool all the girls recognized her and were eager to have some customers as there only a few. We started buying drinks and the girls there were eager to please getting really down and dirty I would recommend this place to have some fun for throwing a few baht as the girls seemed willing. The shots were flowing and I could tell my 22 year old was starting to get drunk and I said better get out of here before she ends up passing out. Long story short got her to drunk and she had to leave still had a great time and just paid her short time 3 k and was a bit pissed I let her drink so much.

    I was still hungry for more so I went for a stroll back to see what was left it was quite late. Found a nice girl early 30's named Pin who had excellent English. After doing the LB inquiry she quoted me 1000 baht as it was last call I took her back and had a good time. Found out after she does A+ or 500 more. I regret not knowing about it earlier.

    Last day woke up a bit later and hit up Doki Doki, a solid line up but no names I could find reviews on here. Ended up going with Honey who was full bodied but not fat with perfect size and feel fakes. Took the 90 minutes. Highlight of the trip what fun. Was my first time with Nuru and Honey really took her work seriously and looked after you. She did this leg lock siccsor fuck while I lay on my stomach, blew my mind. Also 2 course rimming for over 10 minutes. My friend who went the day before picked a skinny and tiny girl name unknown and got a+ but when I asked reception was not offered by anyone.

    Had dinner at China town, was great with lots of delicious food options and lots of people fun to see.

    We decided to BF two ladies 750 baht I think 2 k st I think 3 k LT from Hilary 4, them mine and other don't know name went back to Cowboy to Kazy Kozy check out a LB bar just for shits and giggles and then some dancing at at Country something.

    After bars shut headed back to hotel she ended up being super weird and a horrible and disappointing experience for my last conquest in town for most likely a long time. Not sure if her name is them but that's how she pronounced it. She fair skin 36 pretty but I would recommend skipping.

    Here's my summary and advice as a first timer for other first timers in this lovely city.

    Stay in short walking distance to Nana.

    Need money to have fun. I blew my budget by a lot but don't regret it spent where it counts in this order ass, drinks hotel and eating cheap delicious street food. Drinks were not as cheap as I thought and this ate my budget a lot.

    The one night me and my buddy took bar girls we were both disappointed. His was super shy and not very fun in bed while I explained mine. The extra cost of the go go is well worth it that and you get an up close inspection with little or no clothes on and girls just seem to be more wild of course doesn't snt mean you could end up getting a starfish in bed.

    My experiences with the FL were good and safe although that might not be the case for everyone.

    Don't take tuk tuks even short distance they are a rip off, bike, taxi or grab.

    Must try Nuru massage at least once.

    Thais are so tiny and cute.

    Bangkok Nana / Cowboy is definitely the best of all the mongering locations I have been in SEA if not the world.

  11. #47194

    Call Girl Agencies

    First, thank you Robert and Somewhere for some good dinner options and good advice. Especially not to overeat (smile).

    Does anyone recommend any agencies? I clicked on the Absolute Angel Ad, and it seems there are some beauties in there. If the photos are accurate, 5 k for two hours and two shots seems reasonable. No? From what I understand the Thermae Ladies are generally 2500-3 k and one hour? Or am I wrong on that?

  12. #47193

    Sofitel Roof Top

    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhere15  [View Original Post]
    I used in the past Soi 13 Beer Garden around between Thermae and Sofitel hotel around 300 meter in the Soi. Alternative could be Hooters at Soi 15 (although t it was closed for renovation end of November when I was there last time. You can reach hooters by taking the backdoor of Thermae; if the girl has good English knowledge you can make already a joke around that you love backdoor so much; around 10 years ago you could easy select girls who offered anal, they where standing on the left side. Enjoy.
    There is a nice roof top resto at Sofitel. Right next to Thermae. You can order drinks and Pu Pu's in the outside rooftop resto. For full meals you need to go inside. Prices are ok and not too expensive. Very private and you can talk some serious business with her.

    I personally would not take a lady from Thermae to another bar. Too many mongers in there and they will be loud and noisy. You do not want to eat a large meal if you plan to have sex after. All your energy in your body is digesting dinner. Eat lite and fuck long.

    RL.

  13. #47192

    Diner and date near Thermae

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralM  [View Original Post]
    Have a hotel near Thermae, don't want to boom boom at the hotel over the bar. I really like the idea of dinner then taking her back to my hotel 10-15 min walk away. Can someone recommend a restaurant near Thermae? Maybe where its only 500 baht per person? Or do the ladies expect a fancy meal?
    I used in the past Soi 13 Beer Garden around between Thermae and Sofitel hotel around 300 meter in the Soi. Alternative could be Hooters at Soi 15 (although t it was closed for renovation end of November when I was there last time. You can reach hooters by taking the backdoor of Thermae; if the girl has good English knowledge you can make already a joke around that you love backdoor so much; around 10 years ago you could easy select girls who offered anal, they where standing on the left side. Enjoy.

  14. #47191
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralM  [View Original Post]
    Or do the ladies expect a fancy meal?
    They don't expect a meal, just your money.

  15. #47190

    Dinner

    Have a hotel near Thermae, don't want to boom boom at the hotel over the bar. I really like the idea of dinner then taking her back to my hotel 10-15 min walk away. Can someone recommend a restaurant near Thermae? Maybe where its only 500 baht per person? Or do the ladies expect a fancy meal?

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