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  1. #47791
    Quote Originally Posted by ToolShedd  [View Original Post]
    Asked Wittiya to take me to a very large gem and craft shop I found Tuesday near the Jim Thompson house. He misunderstood and took me to a very large gem and jewelry emporium out near Dusit. You can watch the craftsmen making jewelry and spend a lot of money on it in the next ritzy room. I got Wittiya to take me to the place I really wanted and bought carved elephants and elephant charm bracelets for everyone back home. Sometimes you have to be insistent on where you want to go, these drivers either think they know what you want better than you do, or they are getting kick-backs to take you to certain places. Wittiya wasn't the worst, but he had his moments.
    Haha very famous scam from tuk tuk drivers, hoping you didn't spent too much money on those gems.

    Quote Originally Posted by ToolShedd  [View Original Post]
    Wittiya wants to take me to a sex show in Pat Pong. He says the women shoot darts from their nether regions to pop balloons, as well as launch ping pong balls and smoke cigarettes from their other set of lips. He claims they do vaginal sword swallowing as well. I am going to beg off on this one, I will spend my time doing the nasty or just enjoying the ambiance of Bangkok instead of seeing sexual oddities and being stuck in traffic.
    Pat pong is known for it's weird ping pong shows in shady alleys, where there's a good chance you will be ripped by the bill. You can see the ping pong show at cowboy Suzie wong bar. Vibe is much better, beers amd lady drinks are fare price 220 b. Though they don't do it sword stuff for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by ToolShedd  [View Original Post]
    What a place! It is in the basement of the Raumchitt Plaza hotel, about 20 X 30 meters. There is a front entrance off Sukhumvit and a back entrance off Soi 15. There was a little man yelling at me to buy a drink before I circulated. Soda was 80 baht, but they wouldn't give me change for my 100. There must have been 200+ women there and a lot of men, about 65/35 W-M ratio.
    Thermae is an unusual place. I like it because I can get some really good looking girls from here and I hate it because of the too-crowdy vibe. Sometimes it's even hard to move here.

  2. #47790
    It's obvious this Wittiya guy wanted to take you to places where he gets a kick back. Took you to the wrong jewelry store, wanted to take you to a specific soapie, wanted to take you to the ping pong show bars in Patpong not mentioning to you there are many regular gogo bars in Patpong. Also, not wanting to take you to Thermae because knowing Thermae there is no way and no need for them to provide incentives to taxi / tuk tuk drivers to bring customers.

  3. #47789

    Bangkok, day 5 (Friday)

    Asked Wittiya to take me to a very large gem and craft shop I found Tuesday near the Jim Thompson house. He misunderstood and took me to a very large gem and jewelry emporium out near Dusit. You can watch the craftsmen making jewelry and spend a lot of money on it in the next ritzy room. I got Wittiya to take me to the place I really wanted and bought carved elephants and elephant charm bracelets for everyone back home. Sometimes you have to be insistent on where you want to go, these drivers either think they know what you want better than you do, or they are getting kick-backs to take you to certain places. Wittiya wasn't the worst, but he had his moments.

    Wittiya wants to take me to a sex show in Pat Pong. He says the women shoot darts from their nether regions to pop balloons, as well as launch ping pong balls and smoke cigarettes from their other set of lips. He claims they do vaginal sword swallowing as well. I am going to beg off on this one, I will spend my time doing the nasty or just enjoying the ambiance of Bangkok instead of seeing sexual oddities and being stuck in traffic. I have had a lot of offers from drivers to provide me women, take me to special clubs, etc. One driver had a portable DVD player on the dash in front of me to show me fully naked nasty dancing at a club he was touting. Wittiya said there is a very good soapy massage on Soi 2, not far from Nana hotel. I will get the name of it from him later if anyone on here is interested. I had a soapy in Pattaya and have already crossed that off my bucket list. I told Wittiya I wanted to go to Thermae tonight.

    I spent most of the afternoon and evening at Big Dog. Hanah, 45, slim and nice, spent a lot of time with me. I decided I would BF her, but not tonight. I wanted to check out Thermae.

    Wittiya didn't want to take me to Thermae because he had called twice, and they didn't answer. He thought they might be closed. I insisted and arrived about 9 PM. Mein Gott! What a place! It is in the basement of the Raumchitt Plaza hotel, about 20 X 30 meters. There is a front entrance off Sukhumvit and a back entrance off Soi 15. There was a little man yelling at me to buy a drink before I circulated. Soda was 80 baht, but they wouldn't give me change for my 100. There must have been 200+ women there and a lot of men, about 65/35 W-M ratio. There was a ring of ladies around the wall facing in, and an inner ring of ladies facing out. The men shuffled along and the women either avoided eye contact or smiled and waved the men over. This is where it got interesting for me, since I am a man of large caliber (have a very large belly). Many of the women couldn't believe my size and couldn't take their eyes off me but were afraid to make eye contact! A good number didn't care and smiled at me, a few waved me over. I talked to one SWT, Apple, about 30,154 cm, slim, straw colored blond hair, with nice frontal lobes, and she was very insistent I take her, almost begged me. She quoted me 3,000ST. I shuffled around the room again and decided to leave. I don't know why I didn't take Apple; in hindsight I should have. I had decided to BF Hanah, which could have waited for another night.

    So I went back to Big Dog and BF'the Hanah. 800 baht BF, when asked how much she said it was up to me. That is always my cue to say 50 baht! If they object, I go up to 55. LOL. Hanah did me good, even though she was a little long in the tooth, and after the first round we talked for 3 hours, slept a few and had an early morning nookie session. She left around 6, I was exhausted. I gave her 3,000 for LT.

    Tool Shedd.

  4. #47788

    Bangkok, day 4 (Thursday)

    Slept late, had a late check-out from iCheck Inn. Street driver / hustler hauled me over to Nana hotel, which wasn't far, but I didn't want to lug my bags up 36 stairs to cross Sukhumvit. Getting around downtown is hard, especially if you are in a taxi, due to the traffic.

    Nana hotel made a bad impression on me at first, got worse the next day. Now I am OK with it. See the Hotel board for details, if you care.

    Touristy stuff: Got a driver from Nana Hotel named Wittaya, I will keep his number and use him for inner city trips next time I am in Bangkok. Made it to the Jim Thompson house, it was beautiful and worth the visit.

    Across Soi 4 from Nana hotel is the world-famous Nana Plaza. On the left corner, as you enter, is Big Dog bar. I found it to be a great place to sit and watch Circus Nana, the FL working in front of Nana hotel and just life in general. The energy of this place (Soi 4 and the Nana parking lot) is amazing! Drinks are cheap and I got to know the girls in there well. Oiy, 45 and chubby, not attractive to me at first, glommed on to me and I bought her drinks. She joked the first day that we were married, next day we were divorced, next day we are back together. I have started to like her and will probably BF her Sunday morning, if I have any energy left.

    I was very tired and went to sleep at 8 PM, woke at 12:40 and decided to do Nana Plaza. I went in 3 bars there, Billboard, Butterflies and Rainbow, if I remember right. The music was so damn loud I couldn't communicate with the servers, mamasans or girls. In one of the bars two girls, a server and a mamasan were gathered around me and asked me a question I had no way to hear. I must have nodded, because suddenly drinks for everyone along with tequila rose shots appeared. Cost me 840 baht to get out of there. I decided go-go bars, car alarm music and my bad hearing do not a fun or cheap night make.

    I wandered south on Soi 4 until I came to Hillary II, worked my way to the back to use the potty. It was very crowded, with a pretty good live band. On my way out I was waylaid by a cute, 152 cm, 50 kilo, 28 year old With jaw length hair. Kok honeyed up to me and made sure I knew she was the one for me. We had about 4 drinks each, she was hugging and rubbing me. Her manner was pure GFE, which I just can't resist. I took her back to Nana hotel, and her service let me down. Poor BBBJ, lips barely making contact with the tool, rough with my wiener, and cowgirl was disappointing. I faked an orgasm to get her to stop, then sent her on her way. Disappointing. Damage: 2,000 baht, no bar fine. She wanted to know why I didn't keep her TLN, I lied and told her I was too tired. Do you go to hell for lying to a working girl? Or is it forgiven because they won't take no for an answer? LOL.

    Tool Shedd.

  5. #47787

    Bangkok, day 3 (Wednesday)

    Trip to Kanchanaburi to see the River Kwai historical area. Very interesting, again I had Namm's Taxi service take me there. I highly recommend them. 10-hour trip with the traffic and spending about 4 hours at the site.

    In the evening I contacted Smooci and ordered up Bobby. I have been drooling over her for months, just waiting for a chance to partake. Pictures are a combination of smoking hot and Girl Next Door. Well, I guess Photoshop has it's uses. She was nowhere near that cute and not very accommodating. Non-members have to book for two hours. After my first pop at the 25-minute mark, I knew I didn't have another shot in me. I told her "Khap koon caaa" (thanks) and sent her on her way. Smooci worked seamlessly, they were great to deal with, and they used emails and texts to keep me well informed.

    Tool Shedd.

  6. #47786

    Bangkok, day two (Tuesday)

    Staying at the iCheck Inn Nana on Soi 7/1, spitting distance from Wood Bar and Chrome bar. Walking in and out of this soi is a lot of fun for the first few days but gets old after a while. You have to run the gamut of ladies offering massages, blow jobs and boom boom. Some of them are quite persistent and don't want to take mai karap (Hell No!) for an answer. Overall, I liked staying here, it is very near the Beer Garden and a lot of action. As discussed on the forum, there is a new group of beer bars being built just near the Beer Garden on Soi 7 that may make this a great place to stay. ICheck in is great too, I will review it on the hotel forum.

    Went to the world-famous Wood Bar on Soi 7/1 and was led to the back room by Joy. Seriously, as I write this 4 days later, I can't even remember what she looked like. I do remember she was rough with my dick and I had a lot of trouble dropping my load. After a week of mongering, the base of my willie is getting a little tender from the women who pinch the base of my dick while blowing me or ram the condom into my groin with a vengeance. I was seriously disappointed in Woods Bar after everything I had read about it.

    Touristy stuff today: Was going to the Jim Thompson house and got picked up by a tuk tuk driver / hustler. He took me to get measured for a suit. Then he took me to Chao Praya for a long tail boat ride and tour of the canals. I don't have to go to Venice now, thank goodness. Then I walked around what Arun and what Pho, seeing the 150-foot-long reclining Buddha. I am mostly in Thailand for the mongering, but I do need cover photos to send home to justify my trip.

    Back to the mongering. Upon arriving at Soi 7/1 I allowed myself to be pulled in to one of the massage parlors by Mai and Kiwi. I chose Mai, about 152 cm, young, 45 kilos, and had pretty eyes, about 30 years old. She proceeded to wreck my dick while pinching the base so hard I couldn't keep an erection. It was almost as big of boner-killer as seeing a picture of Hillary Clinton! After trying to stop her from inflicting the pain, I called her off and got Kiwi to do the job. Kiwi is about 158 cm, also about 30 and what you may call full-figured, voluptuous, curvy, etc. She took matters in hand and finished the deed in a short time. When I was leaving, Mai asked me why I rejected her. I took her thumb and pinched the base of it so hard it should have hurt and told her that was what she was doing to Mr. Happy. It hurts! Women complain about men hurting their sensitive areas, can't they understand that Herman the One-Eyed German wants a soft touch? I think she got the message, but I don't know if the lesson will stick. Paid her 200 baht to quit, 800 to Kiwi to do the job right.

    Ah the problems of mongering.

    These blow job bars are nowhere as good as the Soi 6 Pattaya experiences I had last week. See Pattaya board for details.

    Tool Shedd.

  7. #47785
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]

    Strangely I can't even remember now what typical BFs were for the cart bars. I did BF on a cart bar 2 or 3 times. One cart bar girl was good, others fairly ordinary.
    The girl who gave me the little tour of the new complex a couple of nights ago was working in a cart bar and one reason she took me into that complex was to say Hi to the mamasan (owner?) of one of the bars in the process of moving from Queen's Park Plaza to that new complex. The girl from the cart bar had worked in her QPP bar before and was asked by the mamasan to work in the new Soi 7 bar when it opens too. The barfine at her cart bar is currently 300 baht. Which is the same as I remember paying for the occasional cutie I took from cart bars back when they were all over the place after 11PM or so, 4-5 years ago. However, I remember being quoted more than that in some cases back then, 400 baht I think.

  8. #47784
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Interesting theories. Means my tour of looking for girls might need to include Soi 7 for a bit. I can look in Beer Garden again too, despite scepticism. Can't recall for sure now if I ever did a Beer garden girl.

    I don't think many customers currently not paying a BF, are going to want to start paying one, so girls in new complex may be tempted to move to beer garden, to avoid the BF problem and to get customers more easily. Certainly BF girls are not going to be freelance and probably on a monthly salary.

    Strangely I can't even remember now what typical BFs were for the cart bars. I did BF on a cart bar 2 or 3 times. One cart bar girl was good, others fairly ordinary.
    And my guess is instead of going with a sub 500 Baht BF, they'll go with a higher one and be offering gals that are not so nice looking and a bit long in the tooth. It should be an area modeled on Pattaya soi 6, with 400 Baht BF and 1 k ST, but certainly it won't. If it would be, they'd pack in the punters.

  9. #47783
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    It is on the same side of Soi 7 leading right down to Beer Garden, which is still there as before. My impression is there will be at least as many bars in that complex as were in Queen's Park
    Plaza on Soi 22. Maybe some of those spaces will be restaurants and not beer bars with available girls.

    Yes, I have to say the thought crossed my mind where will they get enough acceptable girls to work in these bars. I mean, will all of the strays hanging on to the bitter end in QPP indeed show up to work here after all? Will they be spill over from an over crowded Thermae or those not willing to stand on Soi 4 and Sukhimvit anymore?

    Those were the only places that appeared to me to have an over abundance of P4P girls with no place to sit or get inside out of the rain or heat. Otherwise, I have not seen a flood of hookers showing up looking for a spot to set up shop outdoors lately.

    Which also brings up the issue of barfines. The spill over, crowded out Thermae girls, Soi 4 and Sukhumvit girls and the Beer Garden girls right next door are not barfine girls. They freelance. But I assume the girls working in the new complex will require a barfine as they did in QPP on Soi 22.

    Then again, it would be interesting if as many girls that used to work at the late night cart bars that are no longer being set up nearly as much as before show up at those new complex bars. Similar amount for barfine, ST and such.
    Interesting theories. Means my tour of looking for girls might need to include Soi 7 for a bit. I can look in Beer Garden again too, despite scepticism. Can't recall for sure now if I ever did a Beer garden girl.

    I don't think many customers currently not paying a BF, are going to want to start paying one, so girls in new complex may be tempted to move to beer garden, to avoid the BF problem and to get customers more easily. Certainly BF girls are not going to be freelance and probably on a monthly salary.

    Strangely I can't even remember now what typical BFs were for the cart bars. I did BF on a cart bar 2 or 3 times. One cart bar girl was good, others fairly ordinary.

  10. #47782
    Quote Originally Posted by *****man  [View Original Post]
    Do the Viet girls congregate in a particular place on soi 4?
    I would say right just after alley that led to Annies and Rajah, now has Hillary 1?, is a typical spot. These girls usually have light skin and may not look exactly Thai. Opposite the little Soi with ST Hotel Di Place.

    However I have met viet girl in another location. One was right outside the Nana Hotel sign wall.

  11. #47781
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    I partake at oilies and very rarely soi 4. I would venture to say the Viets on soi 4 at present will be far better looking than what you see in the discos these days. And they're 2 k st.
    Do the Viet girls congregate in a particular place on soi 4?

  12. #47780
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Is this near Beer garden or a replacement? Is there any need for so many spaces? Still this is Bangkok renowned for unneeded developments. I have to guess replaced the area just before Beer garden that used to have many beauty shops, hair, nails, massage etc.

    Many bar areas of the past failed and eventually closed down.
    It is on the same side of Soi 7 leading right down to Beer Garden, which is still there as before. My impression is there will be at least as many bars in that complex as were in Queen's Park
    Plaza on Soi 22. Maybe some of those spaces will be restaurants and not beer bars with available girls.

    Yes, I have to say the thought crossed my mind where will they get enough acceptable girls to work in these bars. I mean, will all of the strays hanging on to the bitter end in QPP indeed show up to work here after all? Will they be spill over from an over crowded Thermae or those not willing to stand on Soi 4 and Sukhimvit anymore?

    Those were the only places that appeared to me to have an over abundance of P4P girls with no place to sit or get inside out of the rain or heat. Otherwise, I have not seen a flood of hookers showing up looking for a spot to set up shop outdoors lately.

    Which also brings up the issue of barfines. The spill over, crowded out Thermae girls, Soi 4 and Sukhumvit girls and the Beer Garden girls right next door are not barfine girls. They freelance. But I assume the girls working in the new complex will require a barfine as they did in QPP on Soi 22.

    Then again, it would be interesting if as many girls that used to work at the late night cart bars that are no longer being set up nearly as much as before show up at those new complex bars. Similar amount for barfine, ST and such.

  13. #47779

    New Bars Soi 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Is this near Beer garden or a replacement? Is there any need for so many spaces? Still this is Bangkok renowned for unneeded developments. I have to guess replaced the area just before Beer garden that used to have many beauty shops, hair, nails, massage etc.
    Many bar areas of the past failed and eventually closed down.
    Yes, the space just before Beer Garden. The two largest out front are Rumours Bar and Lucky something or other. Soon to be finished I'd say. There appeared to be a small private party or soft opening in the Lucky one a few evenings ago but may have been the owners 'wetting the bar' even though it's not finished. Rumours is said to be the one from Soi 22 bar complex which will close soon (or later maybe).

    No doubt the new area will impact on Beer Garden's business and for the few 'pavement bars' and street food vendors along the Soi. Could be the final death knell or it could attract more customers to the area which has been increasingly grungy for the last while. Maybe the emerging demographic of the area is not ideal any more for new bars. Who knows?

  14. #47778
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I got a little tour of the new beer bar complex going up on Soi 7 last night. I was surprised by how many separate bar spaces will be set up in that complex and how far and deep it goes back off the soi.
    Is this near Beer garden or a replacement? Is there any need for so many spaces? Still this is Bangkok renowned for unneeded developments. I have to guess replaced the area just before Beer garden that used to have many beauty shops, hair, nails, massage etc.

    Many bar areas of the past failed and eventually closed down.

  15. #47777
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Last time I just passed by and took a glance at their outside menu a few weeks ago, I noticed the actual menu itself was freshly redone as if they had reprinted it, upgraded the quality of the material used to produce the menu and so on. I did not look for a notice about + or ++ aded at the bottom of a page, but it certainly could be there now. I wonder if that added Vat and SC is fairly new.
    No, I don't think so. I remember paying extra in previous visits this year and last too.

    As you say there is a newer menu now, but the linked menu below looks like the older one so the added VAT was there before. The website still has the older format menu online.

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