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  1. #58868

    My civvie game and field 8 yrs ago was very different than what's discussed here

    Hands down, if I had the time and was unconstrained, I'd stick to civvies or semi pros and avoid the pros almost completely.

    I'm racially handicapped, but somewhat able to compensate through $, but am very understated / discreet.

    I care little about physical appearance beyond slim / petite, but have very strong unsavoury / unspeakable desires and naturally lean towards women who can accommodate.

    In my experience, taking a 22-23 yo 7-11 worker (not the most attractive in her surroundings) - on a first date that costs 3/4-1 month of her income covering dinner, shopping and rooftop bar has been the best strategy for my needs. Never had anything refused after that date, and often they continued to spend nights for 1-2 weeks after, expecting nothing in return.

    I've found, the girls who are not the most attractive are starved for attention, and never been spoiled, so kind of get overwhelmed after such a date. They are genuinely grateful and show their happiness uninhibited which makes me even happier. All these civvies have rimmed me without the slightest hint from me, and always let me have their backdoor.

    The civvies in jobs remotely similar to mine are too full of themselves and see themselves as a prize. It didn't take more than 4-5 such dates, 1-2 of which ended in the lousiest sex of my life to get me to swear off these women completely.

    I don't frequent malls so never tried that cohort, but I imagine they are somewhere between the 7-11 girls and the snooty big company office girls.

    The thing is though, IMO:

    1. Civvies need familiarity over a couple of weeks at least till they will agree to a date.

    2. You need to ask in the right situation ensuring she has no chance of losing face, and has privacy.

    3. It is effort in the sense that you'll need to keep the pretence of a date going, but it is low effort if you do a mind blowing date.

  2. #58867
    Has anyone ever found lineups similar to the US or Canada were they have a list of girls working with maybe a partial photo at least? I know nothing about Thai social media but I am surprised that places like LaBelle or Black Label don't have one at all. Some of the clubs like The Pimp have some stuff but it hit or miss and some of the girls are just dancers not performers.

    I know there are some sites like fwiw fans and some forums but navigating them is difficult as a westerner.

  3. #58866

    Fantasy mongerer

    Quote Originally Posted by ElMexicant  [View Original Post]
    That's what I keep telling these folks. I bet there are some major PLAYERS in this and other forums. I did not have my first real job until early 30 ish. Before then and even then, I had girls giving me weekly allowances, paying my rent, paying my car note, buying my clothes, jewelry, and always taking on the bill during our dates. Even today, I go to the market for breakfast and have the girls chat me up, gyms girl stare at me when I work out or stretch, and random women smiling or bending over pretending to pick up things when I walk by. I can go to a brand new GoGo club and all eyes will follow when I come through the door. Maybe they sense the presence of a Punjabi Prince from far away. Shit like this really exists for guys just as it exists with certain girls. There is a reason why top 2% of hostesses in Japan make over 100 K USD a month with just companionship and conversation. While the rest make much less. I've met a few very lovely Thai woking girls with who spoke perfect English and Hindi with no accents. They are scary to play with with very powerful conversational skills. The strong minded and stronger spirited will always have influence and power over the weak, male, female, or binary.
    ElMexicant, this forum is not about you. I am certain you are a gorgeous hunk of a man, whose toenails reduce women to impuissance to resist your sexual energy, but no one gives a shit about your masculine Punjabi Prince powers.

  4. #58865
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    I've done 7-11 girls, Uni girls, Office girls, nurses.

    In order to do so you have to invest time and effort and money like you would with any other girl. Its called dating.
    That is not necessarily true. I have fucked all of the above for money. Not like I marched into any of these places looking for a chick. But in my pursuits of looking for chick to fuck for money, I have happened to come across chicks looking for guys to fuck them for money and it just so happened they worked at 7 11, were nurses, worked in an office, etc. Not really something to actively seek out and no big deal. When the clothes and work / school IDs come off, everyone is the same. Pursuing someone because of their affiliation is stupid. The affiliation does not make the person. Again, it is just a fetish that some guys have.

  5. #58864
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    I've done 7-11 girls, Uni girls, Office girls, nurses.

    In order to do so you have to invest time and effort and money like you would with any other girl. Its called dating.
    That is not necessarily true. I have fucked all of the above for money. Not like I marched into any of these places looking for a chick. But in my pursuits of looking for chick to fuck for money, I have happened to come across chicks looking for guys to fuck them for money and it just so happened they worked at 7 11, were nurses, worked in an office, etc. Not really something to actively seek out and no big deal. When the clothes and work / school IDs come off, everyone is the same. Pursuing someone because of their affiliation is stupid. The affiliation does not make the person. Again, it is just a fetish that some guys have.

  6. #58863
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSanuk  [View Original Post]
    Just my opinion, but trying to score uni girls seems like a waste of time. If it's some kind of fetish that needs addressing, just hire some chick to dress up like a uni girl.
    Isn't it always a fetish when guys put tunnel vision parameters on hookers or people in general? I go out and see a chick and like a chick. No need to go search only for chicks that are this age, this tall, with this skin tone, and this color hair. That says nothing about how you will get along together or anything else. Of course I have preferences or features I like about a chick, but I am not throwing the baby out with the bathwater and saying there are no good chicks if there were none with red hair or none 22 years old. I have never had a good time based on how someone looked or because they went to a certain school or had a certain job. Those things are just fetishes.

  7. #58862
    Quote Originally Posted by ElMexicant  [View Original Post]
    That's what I keep telling these folks. I bet there are some major PLAYERS in this and other forums. I did not have my first real job until early 30 ish. Before then and even then, I had girls giving me weekly allowances, paying my rent, paying my car note, buying my clothes, jewelry, and always taking on the bill during our dates. Even today, I go to the market for breakfast and have the girls chat me up, gyms girl stare at me when I work out or stretch, and random women smiling or bending over pretending to pick up things when I walk by. I can go to a brand new GoGo club and all eyes will follow when I come through the door. Maybe they sense the presence of a Punjabi Prince from far away. Shit like this really exists for guys just as it exists with certain girls. There is a reason why top 2% of hostesses in Japan make over 100 K USD a month with just companionship and conversation. While the rest make much less. I've met a few very lovely Thai woking girls with who spoke perfect English and Hindi with no accents. They are scary to play with with very powerful conversational skills. The strong minded and stronger spirited will always have influence and power over the weak, male, female, or binary.
    My former live in was one of those Japanese hostess. Her daily expenses though included anew pair of shoes, night dress, hand bag, earings, etc. It was considered "cheap" if she wore a pair of shoes more than once as her customers expected her to have anew look each time. Over 1,000 pair of shoes and dresses. She just gave them away.

  8. #58861
    Quote Originally Posted by LecheAlot  [View Original Post]
    The only downside to that meeting was that she gave me a cold, so now I feel like shit.
    She probably gave you something else on top of the cold.

    These girls are being banged by all the Thais from morning to midnight. And Thai guys don't like to wear condoms.

  9. #58860
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSanuk  [View Original Post]
    Just my opinion, but trying to score uni girls seems like a waste of time. If it's some kind of fetish that needs addressing, just hire some chick to dress up like a uni girl.Sam.
    Uni girls can be found as sideline girls in the Bangkok entertainment venues.

    Look at the massage joints accepting freelancers and letting them work with a relaxed schedule. I've met some in places like Addict or Pretty massage in the past for example.

    Almost all of them were great fucks too.

  10. #58859

    Excellent advice

    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    Bangkok's university girls, often seen in their iconic short black skirts and white blouses, are the subject of many foreigners' fantasies. But before diving headfirst into this dream, it's crucial to face the realities, challenges, and potential pitfalls. Picking up university girls in Bangkok isn't as easyor as glamorousas it may seem on YouTube or in your imagination.

    The Language Barrier and Cultural Gap.

    For starters, many university girls in Bangkok have limited English skills. This language barrier alone makes meaningful connections difficult unless you speak Thai. Additionally, cultural differences mean their dating expectations may differ significantly from those of foreigners.

    Campus Approaches: A Risky Move.

    Trying to meet these girls at their universities might seem like a natural approach, but it's a mistake. Thai campuses are not public spaces, and wandering around without a purpose can result in complaints, security intervention, or even police involvement for trespassing. It's best to avoid this route altogether.

    Shopping Malls and the YouTube Myth.

    Videos of foreigners picking up girls in Bangkok's shopping malls like Siam Paragon or CentralWorld often paint an unrealistic picture. Many of these videos are staged. While it's possible to strike up a conversation in these places, expect skepticism or indifference, as Thai women often view unsolicited approaches from foreigners as intrusive. Have I done this before. Yes. In Pattaya it was easy. Why? Because many of the girls there work as FLs. In Bangkok I did it twice at Central Lat Phrao. However, it was with girls who worked there and I was a regular customer in their shop. I did get a couple of strangers contacts but they never replied to my lines. They just gave me their line ID to get rid of me. Few will have luck at this. Meeting them on Tinder and then meeting them at the mall, their place of work is a much more realistic scenario which I did often.

    The Khaosan Road Scene.

    Khaosan Road, Bangkok's backpacker haven, is a more realistic venue for meeting university-aged girls. While you'll primarily encounter tourists, some Thai students might visit for a night out. Keep in mind, though, that most of them are there to have fun, not to meet someone serious. If you get lucky here, it is one of the best ways to meet them and the one night stand will most likely be a freebie.

    Tinder, ThaiFriendly, and Fiw Fans.

    Online platforms like Tinder and ThaiFriendly offer more accessible avenues for meeting university girls. However, these apps are saturated with competition, and many users may not be genuine or are looking for financial support. Some foreigners have had luck meeting "Fiw fans" (freelancers), but these interactions are paid and most wont want to see you again. If a relationship develops, know it's likely rooted in a power imbalance. However, you will be able to fuck them, but don't get any idea about freebies. I fucked many of them during Covid. It was a blast. Even before Covid, I got lucky and found one on TF but she was also being supported by a Thai man so I didn't last long. I was just a change for her and when the foreigner novelty wore off, it ended.

    Hostess Bars and Kareokes.

    Hostess bars like The Pimp or Karaoke bars are likely places to find genuine university girls. However, the girls working in these establishments are street-smart and highly experienced in dealing with men. If you're hoping to meet someone naive or unjaded, these venues won't deliver. They will want your money. So just pay and get out.

    Gents' Clubs, RCA, and the High-End Scene.

    Some of Bangkok's gorgeous university girls frequent gentlemen's clubs, RCA, or high-end venues. However, these girls are often supported by wealthy Thai men who provide them with cars, condos, or tuition payments or they are looking for this. Competing in this scene as a foreigner is challenging and expensive. Even if you connect with one of these women, maintaining the relationship will likely require significant financial resources. So, just pay to play if you want and get out.

    The "Innocent Girl" Fantasy.

    Suppose you're lucky enough to meet an "innocent" university girl who genuinely likes you. Her friends or family may soon educate her on the reality of relationships with foreigners, leading to complications or demands. In the end, even this scenario can become costly emotionally or financially. Don't believe others who tell stories of dorm room hook ups and free cooking classes in exchange for sex LOL. Also dont believe the guy that tells you one will fuck you at your beck and call monthly for 5k baht. You might get lucky for a month or two, but it will end fast just like I just described.

    The Bottom Line.

    While the fantasy of dating and or just fucking a hot, young university girl in Bangkok is alluring, the reality is often far from it. Language barriers, cultural differences, financial expectations, and social dynamics make this pursuit complex and potentially disappointing. Most foreigners should abandon this unrealistic dream and just pay to play with one of them if given the opportunity.

    Chasing a fantasy may lead to fleeting excitement, but understanding the cultural nuances and being realistic about the challenges will save you from unnecessary frustration and expense and making a complete and utter fool out of yourself.

    Why? Here is why. Many university girls have rich Thai boyfriends who are married but fuck them as Mia Nois. Sometimes their wives even know. These young girls get cars, paid condos and tuition payments. Why would they want to fuck around with a broke farang or holiday farang who has watched too much you tube with a Thai university girl fetish? If you want to compete with these rich Thai men, you better be prepared to pay.
    Excellent insights and advice. From my personal POV just be aware these are fantasies so experience them, pay up and leave before the magic wanes off. I made that mistake many times and as soon as you try to turn fantasies into real life relationships be prepared for a world of pain, suffering and financial losses. Not saying it cannot work out but always keep perspective! When I first entered this world completely unprepared and of course stupidly fell in love another legend here just asked me: "have you seen her mother? Are you willing and able to satisfy her financial demands?" Meaning are you prepared to be with that person once she looks older and do you understand her needs? It was the best and worst year of my life and a genuine relationship but it had to end before raving havoc on both of us. Just my thoughts. Enjoy the fantasy but how many 19 year olds want to be with old fat guys like us (no offense)? And especially in Thailand, foreigners are not welcome as family members in most cases. So as appealing students might seem, chances for something real are minuscule so better put your efforts elsewhere.

    FA.

  11. #58858

    Update on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by ShyBoy143  [View Original Post]
    If all the articles you're referring to are over a month old, then they're just reporting a promise that wasn't fulfilled (end legal last night).
    Despite the reports in the press, nothing has changed with respect to marijuana in Thailand. There seems to be a dispensary every km or so in Bangkok (Sukhumvit), as well as the central part of Pattaya.

  12. #58857
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    If you were picking up 20 year old girls on the train, in the gym, in the swimming pool, in your own home country when you were in your late twenties, you still have a fair chance of picking up the same type of girls, at the same places, when you're 20 years older in Thailand.

    If you never did that, then no, you're not going to be banging girls half your age in Thailand, unless you pay up in some way, and what you quoted from that other guy's post applies.
    That's what I keep telling these folks. I bet there are some major PLAYERS in this and other forums. I did not have my first real job until early 30 ish. Before then and even then, I had girls giving me weekly allowances, paying my rent, paying my car note, buying my clothes, jewelry, and always taking on the bill during our dates. Even today, I go to the market for breakfast and have the girls chat me up, gyms girl stare at me when I work out or stretch, and random women smiling or bending over pretending to pick up things when I walk by. I can go to a brand new GoGo club and all eyes will follow when I come through the door. Maybe they sense the presence of a Punjabi Prince from far away. Shit like this really exists for guys just as it exists with certain girls. There is a reason why top 2% of hostesses in Japan make over 100 K USD a month with just companionship and conversation. While the rest make much less. I've met a few very lovely Thai woking girls with who spoke perfect English and Hindi with no accents. They are scary to play with with very powerful conversational skills. The strong minded and stronger spirited will always have influence and power over the weak, male, female, or binary.

  13. #58856
    Great post. However my best experiences with amazingly hot girls in their early 20's has been the kapoo scene. Maybe you'd like to add your views on that in your post.

    One a sidenote I am all about efficiency. I personally don't want to spend hours and hours on my feet trawling for the perfect dream. But I tend to do quite a bit of homework, so admittedly hours are spent online.

    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    Bangkok's university girls, often seen in their iconic short black skirts and https://www.colonzethailand.com/ blouses, are the subject of many foreigners' fantasies. But before diving headfirst into this dream, it's crucial to face the realities, challenges, and potential pitfalls. Picking up university girls in Bangkok isn't as easyor as glamorousas it may seem on YouTube or in your imagination.

    The Language Barrier and Cultural Gap.

    For starters, many university girls in Bangkok have limited English skills. This language barrier alone makes meaningful connections difficult unless you speak Thai. Additionally, cultural differences mean their dating expectations may differ significantly from those of foreigners.

    Campus Approaches: A Risky Move.

    Trying to meet these girls at their universities might seem like a natural approach, but it's a mistake. Thai campuses are not public spaces, and wandering around without a purpose can result in complaints, security intervention, or even police involvement for trespassing. It's best to avoid this route altogether.

    Shopping Malls and the YouTube Myth.

    Videos of foreigners picking up girls in Bangkok's shopping malls like Siam Paragon or CentralWorld often paint an unrealistic picture. Many of these videos are staged. While it's possible to strike up a conversation in these places, expect skepticism or indifference, as Thai women often view unsolicited approaches from foreigners as intrusive. Have I done this before. Yes. In Pattaya it was easy. Why? Because many of the girls there work as FLs. In Bangkok I did it twice at Central Lat Phrao. However, it was with girls who worked there and I was a regular customer in their shop. I did get a couple of strangers contacts but they never replied to my lines. They just gave me their line ID to get rid of me. Few will have luck at this. Meeting them on Tinder and then meeting them at the mall, their place of work is a much more realistic scenario which I did often.

    The Khaosan Road Scene.

    Khaosan Road, Bangkok's backpacker haven, is a more realistic venue for meeting university-aged girls. While you'll primarily encounter tourists, some Thai students might visit for a night out. Keep in mind, though, that most of them are there to have fun, not to meet someone serious. If you get lucky here, it is one of the best ways to meet them and the one night stand will most likely be a freebie.

    Tinder, ThaiFriendly, and Fiw Fans.

    Online platforms like Tinder and ThaiFriendly offer more accessible avenues for meeting university girls. However, these apps are saturated with competition, and many users may not be genuine or are looking for financial support. Some foreigners have had luck meeting "Fiw fans" (freelancers), but these interactions are paid and most wont want to see you again. If a relationship develops, know it's likely rooted in a power imbalance. However, you will be able to fuck them, but don't get any idea about freebies. I fucked many of them during Covid. It was a blast. Even before Covid, I got lucky and found one on TF but she was also being supported by a Thai man so I didn't last long. I was just a change for her and when the foreigner novelty wore off, it ended.

    Hostess Bars and Kareokes.

    Hostess bars like The Pimp or Karaoke bars are likely places to find genuine university girls. However, the girls working in these establishments are street-smart and highly experienced in dealing with men. If you're hoping to meet someone naive or unjaded, these venues won't deliver. They will want your money. So just pay and get out.

    Gents' Clubs, RCA, and the High-End Scene.

    Some of Bangkok's gorgeous university girls frequent gentlemen's clubs, RCA, or high-end venues. However, these girls are often supported by wealthy Thai men who provide them with cars, condos, or tuition payments or they are looking for this. Competing in this scene as a foreigner is challenging and expensive. Even if you connect with one of these women, maintaining the relationship will likely require significant financial resources. So, just pay to play if you want and get out.

    The "Innocent Girl" Fantasy.

    Suppose you're lucky enough to meet an "innocent" university girl who genuinely likes you. Her friends or family may soon educate her on the reality of relationships with foreigners, leading to complications or demands. In the end, even this scenario can become costly emotionally or financially. Don't believe others who tell stories of dorm room hook ups and free cooking classes in exchange for sex LOL. Also dont believe the guy that tells you one will fuck you at your beck and call monthly for 5k baht. You might get lucky for a month or two, but it will end fast just like I just described.

    The Bottom Line.

    While the fantasy of dating and or just fucking a hot, young university girl in Bangkok is alluring, the reality is often far from it. Language barriers, cultural differences, financial expectations, and social dynamics make this pursuit complex and potentially disappointing. Most foreigners should abandon this unrealistic dream and just pay to play with one of them if given the opportunity.

    Chasing a fantasy may lead to fleeting excitement, but understanding the cultural nuances and being realistic about the challenges will save you from unnecessary frustration and expense and making a complete and utter fool out of yourself.

    Why? Here is why. Many university girls have rich Thai boyfriends who are married but fuck them as Mia Nois. Sometimes their wives even know. These young girls get cars, paid condos and tuition payments. Why would they want to fuck around with a broke farang or holiday farang who has watched too much you tube with a Thai university girl fetish? If you want to compete with these rich Thai men, you better be prepared to pay.

  14. #58855

    Not too fast

    Quote Originally Posted by NewtonYork  [View Original Post]
    I'm definitely baffled by what I'm reading here so far. By Mephistopheles balls, are you guys kidding me? Getting a Thai civilian chick is the easiest thing in the world for farangs, not just in Thailand, but all over South East Asia, and the world in general.
    You are correct in your post, except for one important detail, the vast majority of easy civilians you are picking up are not civilian, they are pros, that is a part of the fantasy they are selling you. And they are very, very good at it. Making a foreigner with obvious 'looking for nooky' vibe feel like a top shelf player pays big dividends, whether you think you're getting free nooky doesn't matter. To an 'under the radar' hooker at the mall, you are as easy to spot as a tourist holding a map at a train station to a pick pocket. The more civilian and innocent they make you believe they are, the more it's going to end up costing you. The primitive male provider ego we are all born with always kicks in, and it can be expensive.

    It is important for noobs know not to go expecting free pussy to be flying their way from all directions just because they are foreigners.

  15. #58854

    The Iconic University Student

    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    Bangkok's university girls, often seen in their iconic short black skirts and white blouses, are the subject of many foreigners' fantasies. But before diving headfirst into this dream, it's crucial to face the realities, challenges, and potential pitfalls. Picking up university girls in Bangkok isn't as easyor as glamorousas it may seem on YouTube or in your imagination.
    Haha, nothing iconic here, just a version of the good old stripping for tuition line. Older men have insatiable fantasy about banging students. Unless you are a professor at the college she's attending, and she is enrolled in your class, 95-99% of this is fantasy.

    Call me skeptical, but the vast majority of hookers I have met, regardless of region, claim to be college students. Younger ones (in their 20's) are almost always university students, older ones pick more realistic vocations (fashion design, sales & marketing), or claim to be studying for an advanced degree. Heck I have been on streak lately, and slept with a soon to be lawyer, accountant, two engineers, 'biomedical' (whatever that means), and a clinical psychologist almost back to back. One I met on an overnight in Paris recently was studying to be a 'sex therapist', now that I could believe. She was very good GFE. The aspiring psychologist brought text books on a repeat visit, in a bid to better sell the fantasy I guess.

    Now, I came here looking for intel, because I am thinking about venturing into Bangkok as my first destination in exploring SEA, but things don't seem very encouraging reading back a bunch of pages. Not sure I'm missing something. I'm now leaning towards Jakarta.

    By the way EverythingThai, your posts are full of wisdom and a fun read!

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