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  1. #46912
    Quote Originally Posted by EgyMongerNew  [View Original Post]
    Akane on Soi 33 was decent as well, with rimming and BBBJ still standard.
    Akane rocks! It's literally one of my favorite places. I don't know of any other place anywhere in the world where deep and long ass rimming is a standard part of the session.

  2. #46911
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    I do see others reporting about lack of BBBJs for some current scare.
    That's ridiculous. Why even go there if the service is so poor that they don't even perform BBBJ?

  3. #46910
    Quote Originally Posted by EgyMongerNew  [View Original Post]
    On the bright side, Lollitta's on Soi 8 was as good as ever (although there is now only 1 girl in the lineup who is below the age of 30). BBBJ + CIM guaranteed.

    Akane on Soi 33 was decent as well, with rimming and BBBJ still standard. Again, the lineup is still the same as a decade ago and the there is now not a single lady in her 20's but at least the price of a 60 minute session has not gone up.

    No wonder they complain about a lack of customers these days -- the attitude sucks!
    I have not been to mango or SW recently, however your experience is very non typical of reports we normally read here. I do see others reporting about lack of BBBJs for some current scare.

    Paying up front is irrelevant to service level, but is a modern trend. The initial wait is not that unusual. I don't know the reason for it. Maybe girl is recovering from previous session, trying to eat some food, chatting to her mother on the phone, or just lazy to get on with it.

    Sure we can all find dud girls regularly these days. I would have said service had already declined in many places by 2006 when you started, although Tulip was good back then (girls have declined in looks since).

    Personally I have never had a really poor service girl in either SW or Mango that I recall. I maybe had the odd, uninspiring session, with girls that others raved about, one with fake tits at SW, I can't even remember the name now quite lacklustre for me. Sometimes I gave up girls because they were just not stunning enough.

    Undoubtedly, the chemistry was not there between you and the girls. Sometimes I have had a weak experience even when chemistry seemed great (elsewhere). You could happen to hit a clueless girl.

    I have not been subjected to covered BJ in these shops, so is it a new trend? Girls may have different standards for what they will do with different customers, for one reason or another. I have no use at all for a CBJ, I would not bother with it.

    Giving up Thailand seems to be a strange over reaction at first glance to a small number of dud experiences. My percentage success rate has declined too (since the 90's), but I would not expect it to be bad in those MPs. I trust the dud girls will normally not last long.

    You should name the girls, then we could see if others agree, or got good service from the same girls.

  4. #46909

    Service and attitude levels in severe decline

    Having been a regular in the BKK scene since as far back as 2006, I have to say this will be my last visit ever as service levels have now reached a new low. Indonesia and Philippines, which I have had very positive experiences at, will be my regular destinations from now on.

    Visited Mango, and the Mamasan, although she recognizes me as a regular, insisted on 1500 payment upfront on top of the base massage fee, which was never the case in any of my previous visits since as far back as 2011. When I went upstairs, I believe I was intentionally made to wait so long (up to 15 minutes!) just so she can bring a bottle of water. Anyway, on to the main action: no cat bath, no BBBJ (even after the promise of a tip! Cannot suck her tits, cannot 69. I got dressed and walked out to the Mamasan explaining what happened, then she allowed me to choose another girl. However, when we got to the room, the new girl, who must have overheard the conversation downstairs, made it clear upfront that she won't do a BBBJ or DATY. When I asked about a good old fashioned cat bath, she refused as well. Needless to say, I walked out again and had a long chat with the Mamasan about the drop in standards lately and a suggestion of finding a new lineup of ladies to work in the shop which she replied "now Thailand too hard find new lady". Perhaps they've all moved to Japan, Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong etc?

    Also popped over to Snow White, where I was again asked to pay 1500 upfront on top of the massage fee. When I insisted to only pay the massage fee as I always do and was ready to walk away, the Mamasan changed her mind. OK, pick Aom and go the room then asked to wait 5 minutes. Ching ching? Yes 5 minutes I go down stair bring water. 5 minutes pass and then another 10 minutes. After shower I asked for a BBBJ, however she refused citing "HIV". Unable to get an erection, I then proceeded to suck on her tits to which she pushed my face away saying "jep". The final nail in the coffin was when I tried to DFK her, which then she pointed to her braces and put on a painful expression on her face. I walked out and of course the Mamasan was acting all defensive saying she is a new girl and there is nothing she can do about it (bullshit of course, as I recognized her during my previous visit last year). To make matters worse, the Mamasan even had the cheek to insult me in Thai, saying asshole on my way out, which was nothing I'd ever seen before.

    On the bright side, Lollitta's on Soi 8 was as good as ever (although there is now only 1 girl in the lineup who is below the age of 30). BBBJ + CIM guaranteed.

    Akane on Soi 33 was decent as well, with rimming and BBBJ still standard. Again, the lineup is still the same as a decade ago and the there is now not a single lady in her 20's but at least the price of a 60 minute session has not gone up.

    No wonder they complain about a lack of customers these days -- the attitude sucks!

  5. #46908

    BKK experience

    Hi all,

    Just returned from BKK after hitting some massage joints like Annalisa, dream haven, Doki Doki.

    Annalisa: Reached around midnight, very less girls but service and reception was good. I can say the overall experience as 8/10. Took an erotic massage from the menu, girl was friendly and talkative, overall nice experience.

    Dream haven: Girls are in the range 6 or 7 , or may less than that. Felt no doable girls, out of desperation took one girl, all were wearing micro skirts, I felt the girls looks little tired. Not like the girls from cherry massage. Inside the room girl gave a decent bath and a average service in the bed. Girls mouth was stinking, may she was smoking just before. Just had a one shot and left the place.

    Doki Doki: I was expecting more from Doki Doki as I had good service from my last year visit. But this time took a lady called olive, may be that was the mistake I did. She is an old lady may be around 40, previous girl Pam she gave a very good service by reaching every part of the body by her tongue, I don't know what was wrong with her she just gave an very below average service not felt like doing her, just asked her to give a blow job, for second shot she said extra money is required what the hell. Disappointed. Always go for the girl who smiles at you eagerly.

    Overall my massage joints trip were average this year's visit.

  6. #46907
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Wow, that was fast. Are you saying there is now a separate Twister BKK sign right above that particular doorway closest to the left side ground level corner of Nana Plaza near the "deli" or whatever that is back there? That is where I saw the small Voodoo sign. If so, I wonder if they were just waiting for a new Twister BKK sign to hang above that doorway and decided to use an old Voodoo sign they found laying around in a storage room until it arrived. LOL.

    Snip.
    Yes. I should have said the Twister sign was up, not back up, as I don't know what was there before the Voodoo sign.

  7. #46906
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Blast from the past. Strolling through Nana Plaza tonight I noticed a "new" go-go bar on the ground level far left corner by the name of Voodoo. Have I missed this announcement here or am I the first? I did a search on this thread and only one reference to that name came up from late last year when it was mentioned in a recollection from 20 years ago.

    Well, I guess it is back. At least the name is back. Girl I bought a LD for said it has been open for 3 weeks already.

    Anyway, I popped in at around 9:30 pm and what do ya know but 5 of the 15 girls on stage were stark raving naked except for their high heels. Highly unusual for a Nana Plaza bar. I did not stay long enough to see if the next 15 dancers at the set change would get totally naked. But about half of them went topless right away.

    I would say mostly 6's and 7's on stage. Maybe a couple more doable than the rest. I noticed 2-3 LBs, but none of the naked ones were LBs.

    The other nice thing I noticed was maybe only 2 or 3 girls in the place showed signs of sillicones. And two of those might have been LBs. Otherwise, there was a refreshing array of natural breasts on display.

    Sorry to say I did not inquire about barfine and asking prices. I was really just passing through on my way to another destination. But I saw no reason to expect those things to be more or less than the usual for Nana Plaza. But who knows. LDs were 175 baht I think.
    Fond memories of Voodoo from years ago and paying girls a tip to get them totally undressed on my lap. Sometime later Voodoo became a LB bar. Now mixed LB and real girl bars are starting to get common. Deja Vu seemed to have started this idea (for Cowboy at least) a few years back but the LBs were secret and not mentionable (hush hush).

    You may be aware that bars have an official name and owners are not easily able to change it. I don't really understand why. So possible the persons leasing the bar were forced to use the official name "Voodoo" (temporarily) even if Twisters is moving to that location. Maybe it is something like the name specified for a lease has to be retained, and changing it is not easy.

    Some bars have had 2 names. E. g. Long Gun official name was actually "Luck Star" I believe. So both names appear on the signage.

  8. #46905
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    It's gone. On Wednesday the Voodoo sign was there. Tonight it was gone, with the Twister sign back.
    Wow, that was fast. Are you saying there is now a separate Twister BKK sign right above that particular doorway closest to the left side ground level corner of Nana Plaza near the "deli" or whatever that is back there? That is where I saw the small Voodoo sign. If so, I wonder if they were just waiting for a new Twister BKK sign to hang above that doorway and decided to use an old Voodoo sign they found laying around in a storage room until it arrived. LOL.

    That go-go bar area in the back corner had previously been part of Bangkok Bunnies and, as I recall, also Twister BKK all along. But the night I went into that bar while the small Voodoo sign was up (and lighted) above that particular doorway, it appeared as though a wall had been erected to keep it separate from the main Twister BKK bar area.

  9. #46904
    For folks traveling to BKK, here is your on the ground report. I'll try to do this every month or so while I'm here. I don't have reports on pricing because I find the whole subject stupid. You pay what you can negotiate.

    Lower suk is still the pits as it has been forever. The cart bars are back on side streets. The ones on soi 7 are replete with African girls, most of them fat assed monsters as preferred by the robe and turban boys, but a few cuties.

    The walkway in front of the Hyatt is now lit up, moving the girls to the corner. Hookers like it dark. Mostly ladyboys, in fact, between soi 11 and Thermae, it's almost all ladyboys.

    Times must be hard because there are more girls than ever on the streets. Mostly fugly.

    Thermae is packed with girls, and a lot of them are lookers. You can find them on both sides of the bar. I as a fat old farang had no problem chatting any up, but I don't chat with chicks that look like anime dolls, cute as they may be.

    I don't regularly do good so nothing to report.

    The talent at Kasalong and Roritahs is non existent.

    Soi 11 is a mess. Paced with people. If you are getting a hotel on that street, better get a room in the back so as not to hear the drunken screeching of fat British girls all over the place. It's not Newcastle on a Friday night ladies. Not my type of street. I'm glad I booked at the adelphi in soi 8, much quieter and less assholish, and thank God I move into my condo on Monday to get away from here.

    Street food prices: 30 to 50% higher than in other parts of town.

    New condos are going up everywhere. Buildings that were there in April are gone today. An old shitty hotel in the area just sold for 375 billion baht. Expect your fav place to be knocked down for condos in a few years. Don't think that NP is sancrosanct either, all it takes is an envelope.

    They are building a skybridge near Thermae. Blocks street traffic but the ladies stand near the boxes.

    The worm dude is still crawling up the sidewalk. The Chinese are still pushy and annoying.

    The cops were out in force including checkpoints. My cab got waved over past soi Nana near the overpass. When the cop went to shine his light on me, the first thing he saw was the American Eagle on my passport. He waved us on. Note to my fellow Yanks. That passport gets you far more slack than other nations. Don't abuse your immunity, don't act like a dick and even though you are crawling in the gutter, at least look and act clean.

    I'm told the cops were all over Asoke montri, I wasn't there though.

    Mixx was hopping, but the quality was down. Some of those Russian (read Central Asian) chicks were pretty horror show but there were a few lookers.

    Cabbies of course try to flat rate you. Know your distances and pricing. Sometimes you can get a gift with a flat rate. The cabbies are desperate for custom. Even the ones parked. I had one try to get me for 500 out of Mixx, by the time I was done it was a meter for 50. I usually tip drivers who cave, teaches them a lesson that fairness gets rewarded.

    Have fun. I may hit some places tonight and will report. As soon as I move in though, lower suk won't be my first stop for the p.

  10. #46903
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    It's gone. On Wednesday the Voodoo sign was there. Tonight it was gone, with the Twister sign back.
    Shame I was planning to go tomorrow.

  11. #46902
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Blast from the past. Strolling through Nana Plaza tonight I noticed a "new" go-go bar on the ground level far left corner by the name of Voodoo. Have I missed this announcement here or am I the first? I did a search on this thread and only one reference to that name came up from late last year when it was mentioned in a recollection from 20 years ago.

    Well, I guess it is back. At least the name is back. Girl I bought a LD for said it has been open for 3 weeks already. Snip.
    It's gone. On Wednesday the Voodoo sign was there. Tonight it was gone, with the Twister sign back.

  12. #46901

    7-heaven: avoid

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    I don't know why someone would come twice and then ask for refund. I can understand one or two instances but if it has happened multiple times, they better look into themselves.

    I won't be surprised if this shop closes soon. Their price is way more than the market rate for BJ shops, and the fact that they don't show girls but just their pics on ipad, is just ridiculous. Most of their girls are bigger than the pics shown. Though, I agree the girls here are more younger than other BJ shops (maybe that explains poor service).

    Seems like a place to avoid.
    Agreed. I think 7-heaven has a serious management issue, starting with the horrible red-haired woman managing the reception. A ruder and more unwelcoming person I have never experienced anywhere I think, not even stopping short of referring to customers as an animal behind their back when she thinks the customer cannot understand Thai.

    When I was at BIT style once I overheard (actually, my GF overheard after I had gone upstairs and told me later) the owner lightly reprimanding one of the staff on how to do her job, saying that if customers complain, they will have to refund the money. I've never had reason to ask for a refund there myself, though I have once or twice walked out without buying service due to not seeing anyone I fancied, but think the chance of experiencing problems there is a lot less than at 7-hell /7-heaven.

  13. #46900

    Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by Gulfcruise  [View Original Post]
    Couple of weeks back, picked up a Spanish-Viet from Spasso, very good GFE, BBBJ, fucked in many positions, She stayed until 4 PM that means it went up to 4 shots, She quoted only 5 K but paid her 7 K, worth the time spend.

    Could share the contact, if anyone interested.
    Hi Gulfcruise,

    Thank you very much for sharing the contact.

    Bhaskar.

  14. #46899

    Re: threesome fantasy

    So, IMO, everything about this is a cake walk, EXCEPT the true lesbian / DATY. Finding girls that will really chow down on each other is the hard part. Most would go along and fake it.

    Lot's of good advice here about tryouts to check chemistry for the girls. I'm no expert here, but I have had several 3/4-ways over the years, and this is what I would do. IMO the chemistry for the ladies is more important than for you, if you must have real lesbian sex as part of the deal.

    I'd go to a place like Crazy House, and ask the mammalian which girls are really into girls, but don't explain about the trip part. Find a girl and be really up front about what you want, and then have her pick the other girl. Then explain to both that you are looking for them to really go down on each other before posting the bar fine. If things go well enough during the test run, explain about your desire to take a trip, and negotiate.

    The problem with a gogo bar is the cost, but I think you'll have a better chance of success. I suggest a place like Crazy House because the ladies are a little older than, say Baccara, and more experienced. And because the place is largely nude to start, the ladies are a bit naughtier, IMO.

    Good luck and report back, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by LivingFossil  [View Original Post]
    I have this fantasy which I am wondering if I can make come true, maybe some of you have done something like this and can give me guidance, or can suggest alternatives.

    I would like to travel and do touristic things for one or two weeks with two girls who are willing to have sex every day and who will be full lesbian in threesomes, including DATY on each other.

    This is complex because I don't know where to start finding two girls like this with some time on their hands, who will do what I want, and are actually fun to travel with.

    I know I will have to invest time up front finding them. I've done lots of threesomes in the past and finding girls who will DATY is hard.

  15. #46898
    Quote Originally Posted by LivingFossil  [View Original Post]
    I have this fantasy which I am wondering if I can make come true, maybe some of you have done something like this and can give me guidance, or can suggest alternatives.

    I would like to travel and do touristic things for one or two weeks with two girls who are willing to have sex every day and who will be full lesbian in threesomes, including DATY on each other.

    This is complex because I don't know where to start finding two girls like this with some time on their hands, who will do what I want, and are actually fun to travel with.

    I know I will have to invest time up front finding them. I've done lots of threesomes in the past and finding girls who will DATY is hard.

    I think I would pay them each day they stayed with me and we would get two rooms, one for me and one for them. If they make it to the end I can give them a bonus, haha.

    So I assume in Thailand this could happen easier than most countries? Where do I start? Thanks!
    You are right that this is possible in Thailand, if you pay well enough and if the girls feel comfortable with you. You will need to be prepared to take some time to investigate who your girls will be. You would be very wise to take a single night or two threesome first to try them out, and for them to try you out. You need to really enjoy fucking both girls to make it work properly.

    There is probably still a lesbian show going on in Suzi Wong bar, so check it out, and find out which girls like playing and licking pussy. One bi-sexual favourite of mine retired unfortunately (to make a family. But at one time she had a Tom GF), however one of her friends, Dtom works 5 Star bar now. She would be an expert on the topic.

    I used to take 3-somes habitually from Suzi Wong a few years back and recently had threesomes with 2 ex Suzi girls now working in Shark.

    Certainly a fantasy that can come true, but not with any random girls. Has to be two girls that are good friends and like working together (and a bit horny too).

    I don't recommend Eden as the source, purely because I never met any really fun girls there, but maybe possible, I did not try it many times. Not so appealing girls. Any bar that has a lesbian show is a possible starting point, but they can be very "staged".

    I have taken girls away on holiday also, but never two girls . Whoops, not true. I once took 3 girls to Koh Chang island (out of Pussy Galore bar in Pat Pong) many years ago (90s), but one was a Tom, so I did not expect to fuck her (2 out of the 3 were hot), and one was totally straight, so I was really only doing one girl at a time. I am not clear if the Tom was doing one of the girls as well (probably/possibly but not in my view). They were all keen to chill out, be lazy at the beach, and smoke Ganja. We had two bungalows. There were no police on the island in those days.

    I think these days, the disadvantage is, it will cost significantly more. In 90s, the cost was a bargain. In those days, if holidaying somewhere that might not have nice hookers available, you took you own with you, to be almost sure of getting sex every day. I took some Soapy MP girls away on holiday as well. Not so much bar girls generally, but in those days bar girls were more wayward.

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