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  1. #3331

    First time

    Been in Nairobi for two days and a half now. Session with 3 girls so far; two from online and one from Black Diamond. Paid all 4000 but the two online I did take them to eat and paid Uber for transport.

    Two online girls were 21 and 23 respectively. Basically students. The girl from Black Diamond was 24. All had nice asses which is what I look for most here.

    Observations so far:

    Alot of action online. I get likes from someone very frequently. That's where I put in the most of my time. Used Badoo, Tinder, Blendr and Afrointroductions. Tinder seems to have mostly the type of look I like. Girls are asking for ridiculous prices online and in person. Definitely have to negotiate. One girl online told me that people offer her $500 a night LOL. I asked her why should would even be available if that's the case LOL. These women. From my observation, most shapely women are going to try to extort you. They quote in US dollars and start at $100-200. I tell them I don't have us dollars and I'm not paying close to that. Some will get upset but others will negotiate down. But I have tried to focus on the ones who don't quote crazy prices and really want to meet. I have over 400 request from women since I been here from all those sites. But most I will admit I'm either not attracted to or don't have the body I seek.

    I stayed at two different hotels so far. I was supposed to stay at the Woodmere but my flight got delayed so I lost the reservation and they are booked for the time I wanted it. Decided to stay at The Zehneria Portico the first night. It was more than half off so I jumped on it. The front desk said they usually charge 3000 for a guest but I gave him 500 and he didn't charge me. The next hotel I stayed at was the La Maison Royale. The room is bigger and it's cheap slightly. No charge here so far. I was planning on staying on an Airbnb if I decide to continue to stay in Nairobi. Am thinking about Mombasa because these prices girls are contributing are ridiculous LOL. I have been to 3 African countries (Morocco, Egypt, South Africa) and more than 40 combined. If I'm comparing it to South Africa, my favorite in terms of Africa women so far, the prices weren't even close to what was been quoted and there was more abundance of ass in my opinion. But I do like how nice Kenya women have been to me. Very polite and really no rude behavior. We will see what the rest of my time here holds. I will be visiting Uganda and Tanzania in the following weeks to get some comparison. Attached a couple pictures of one of the asses I was able to negotiate with.
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  2. #3330

    Euro

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimzam  [View Original Post]
    Then I hope the trend for the euro will also reverse.

    These last two months the rate for the euro just went down.

    Like from about 112 for 1 euro to as low as 105 ksh for 1 euro last weekend.

    Mind you this is not for the $ but for the euro !
    Here the same. Dollar strong versus Euro. UGX went up too. I used to get 4100 now 3900.

    Neddy.

  3. #3329
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    Correct this shit can't last unless there's a massive tourist influx I think the mongers coming to Nai in July will be pleasantly surprised. For a minute the shilling was 104 to 1 for a couple of days.

    Trip.
    Then I hope the trend for the euro will also reverse.

    These last two months the rate for the euro just went down.

    Like from about 112 for 1 euro to as low as 105 ksh for 1 euro last weekend.

    Mind you this is not for the $ but for the euro !

  4. #3328

    Experience vs expense

    Quote Originally Posted by Neddy69  [View Original Post]
    Marvelous bunda! Exactly. Never treat the chica as a hoe! Be a gentleman. She knows. You know. You have to learn to play the game. Some people never get it. Treat her well. Have fun. NBO is getting too expensive for my taste. And all the party venues I liked are gone too. I'd go for smaller towns. Nakuru. Machakos. Kisumu. But. To be quite honest. Go Mombasa. The local economy is in the doldrums since customs clearance of the port was fully computerized and moved to NBO. The last nail in the coffin was the government order that all containers had to be transported on the SGR. 1000s of truckers lost their jobs. Even in Nyali now the poshest area rents are in freefall. You can get a nice 3BR villa now for 50k ksh. As people loose their jobs on an alarming rate. Expect crime to go up too. For me the only places left where I get enough bang for my buck is Mtwapa. Uganda in all other respects beat Kenya now by miles.. Dirt cheap. Loads of hot chicas in the 50 to 100k range. Beer dirt cheap. still enough party venues. Kenya is f...d. Period.

    Sir Neddy
    Who enjoys Entebbe. At least 50% cheaper than NBO. Steak in CJs here around 10$.
    You have to be fair prices are lowered based on the amount of Swahili you speak. Prices are cheaper the more experience you have.

    Is it possible to get LT for 25 bucks in Nairobi it's difficult but not impossible once you develop the monger eye. People read your posts and think that they can smile at a fashion model and she'll pay him to fuck. Yes if you look like Brad Pitt and you're an NGO worker you're can get the occasional freebie. But if you look like Harvey Weinstein and in town on a 36 hour layover then your experience will be different.

    In the sex prisons of America I can easily get ST for 150 in New York City. I doubt if it still exists but there was a club that was called the home of the 40 dollar anal.

    But the hoops you'the have to jump to find that place. It would involve finding the social media emailing and crossing your fingers.

    In Nairobi it would require developing the monger eye away from the Weinstein on his layover. That comes with time not everyone has time. Harvey has to catch his flight back to his sex prison.

    Trip.

  5. #3327

    Correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Neddy69  [View Original Post]
    Yes. Everybody knows the KSH is overvalued. The rates are rigged by the Kenyan Central Bank to remain in the 100 ksh to the dollar. But its cracking. All subsaharan countries took on loads of debt in USD bonds. If they devalue they might find themselves in the doldrums as they have to pay even more in local currency terms. That's why Uhuru leaves no stone unturned to tax the population to death. While looting and stealing money from public coffers is on an alltime high.

    Sir Neddy.
    Correct this shit can't last unless there's a massive tourist influx I think the mongers coming to Nai in July will be pleasantly surprised. For a minute the shilling was 104 to 1 for a couple of days.

    Stand by.

    Trip.

  6. #3326

    Devaluation

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    Couldn't you just cancel the recurring charges on the credit card?

    By the way with the Kenyan economy slowing down. With all this debt there's no way they can defend the K shilling. The business papers are saying it's at least 20% overvalued everyone is expecting the exchange to go to at least 106 to the dollar.

    Trip.
    Yes. Everybody knows the KSH is overvalued. The rates are rigged by the Kenyan Central Bank to remain in the 100 ksh to the dollar. But its cracking. All subsaharan countries took on loads of debt in USD bonds. If they devalue they might find themselves in the doldrums as they have to pay even more in local currency terms. That's why Uhuru leaves no stone unturned to tax the population to death. While looting and stealing money from public coffers is on an alltime high.

    Sir Neddy.

  7. #3325

    Gf

    Quote Originally Posted by NakedGunz  [View Original Post]
    So I arrived Fri. And I have had 3 in 4 days thus far. I could have had number 4 tonight, but I'm feeling stingy, and kinda tire of haggling down from ridiculous pricing, and also want to pace myself. Will get her later because of her big tits. I have proven my point that the way to go with these women is using apps. I have not tried the clubs, bars so far. That will be Fri. Sat. When my friend gets here.

    There is a chic with the most beautiful ass on Tinder, and with T Gold you can see who has swiped right on you, and she did. I got her Whatsapp, and put her in my database for arrival. When I got in Fri. , I texted her, and video chat verified her, and she said I'm ready. OH MAN, that chic, who is not Kenyan, has the most beautiful ass I have seen in a long time. There are nice asses running around here, but not all are combined with a tiny waist, which makes any true ass lover weak in the knees. She had all that, and she wore sexy heels which made it even more hot. She also had this face for a 25 yo, so she is the complete package. She has a job, so availability is not abundant. I had two shots for 5 k, and uber which was 500 each way. Just the visual of her doggie style will put a couple more inches on your boy, she really needs to be on a site. Grabbing the phat bunda with your hands while in mish is just mah-ve-lus!

    I went on a dinner date with a non-pro Sat. , and she was extremely tired from work, but took the time to see me. I cut her loose, and she came over the next day, and more than made up for Sat. Night with two very good GFE shags. She is into me, and she stayed about 24 hours, and we talked and laughed the entire time. Once I get tired of hunting I will just focus on her. She is traveled, intelligent, and fucking hot with the makeup. She asked me to go to Naivasha to some sort of festival this weekend. She told me you may dump me when you see all the hot women at the festival. Note to mongers in the area, that might be an option.

    Number three (raised dress in the pic) lives kinda close, and while using the apps, sites, focus on how far the chics are away from you. They are way more inclined to come if you are close, which makes for easier pay day. I look for hot bodies, within my area, and go from there. They will alays ask for at least 10 k upfront. Just emphasize you have been there before and you know what is fair. Go from there. I have one coming in the morning from Eastlands with huge F bra tits, but she aint pretty. I just want to play with dem tities. The Fri. Chic would not allow pics yet, maybe next time, but I found a pic from 2017 that is pretty close to what I had.

    The non-pro explained how taxes are going up for everybody, and they sent in undercover interns to KRA to report back, and they subsequently cleaned it up. I didn't know the street vendors are paying taxes! There are a couple stunners on Tinder, and Blendr, and obviously hoes I want to get, and then just settle in with a non pro, because its always haggling over the raising prices here, which ruins the mood because they try to take you for a fool. My next steps are some of the massage places I used to visit, and Amboseli Lane, Apples, Liedos, and bar negotiations. My data base of women have gained weight, had babies, or whatever else. I don't have time right now, not staying my usual 30 days.
    Marvelous bunda! Exactly. Never treat the chica as a hoe! Be a gentleman. She knows. You know. You have to learn to play the game. Some people never get it. Treat her well. Have fun. NBO is getting too expensive for my taste. And all the party venues I liked are gone too. I'd go for smaller towns. Nakuru. Machakos. Kisumu. But. To be quite honest. Go Mombasa. The local economy is in the doldrums since customs clearance of the port was fully computerized and moved to NBO. The last nail in the coffin was the government order that all containers had to be transported on the SGR. 1000s of truckers lost their jobs. Even in Nyali now the poshest area rents are in freefall. You can get a nice 3BR villa now for 50k ksh. As people loose their jobs on an alarming rate. Expect crime to go up too. For me the only places left where I get enough bang for my buck is Mtwapa. Uganda in all other respects beat Kenya now by miles.. Dirt cheap. Loads of hot chicas in the 50 to 100k range. Beer dirt cheap. still enough party venues. Kenya is f...d. Period.

    Sir Neddy
    Who enjoys Entebbe. At least 50% cheaper than NBO. Steak in CJs here around 10$.

  8. #3324
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    I cancelled my Tinder Gold subscription shortly before coming to Kenya. What's the deal with credit card renewal? Any danger of their pulling the automatic renewal trick to help themselves to your credit card ever after?

    Tinder didn't work that well for me in Uganda. Girls either didn't come or played offended when I broached the topic of "transport money".
    Couldn't you just cancel the recurring charges on the credit card?

    By the way with the Kenyan economy slowing down. With all this debt there's no way they can defend the K shilling. The business papers are saying it's at least 20% overvalued everyone is expecting the exchange to go to at least 106 to the dollar.

    Trip.

  9. #3323

    Cost of living in Nai

    Quote Originally Posted by NakedGunz  [View Original Post]
    So I arrived Fri. And I have had 3 in 4 days thus far. I could have had number 4 tonight, but I'm feeling stingy, and kinda tire of haggling down from ridiculous pricing, and also want to pace myself. Will get her later because of her big tits. I have proven my point that the way to go with these women is using apps. I have not tried the clubs, bars so far. That will be Fri. Sat. When my friend gets here.

    There is a chic with the most beautiful ass on Tinder, and with T Gold you can see who has swiped right on you, and she did. I got her Whatsapp, and put her in my database for arrival. When I got in Fri. , I texted her, and video chat verified her, and she said I'm ready. OH MAN, that chic, who is not Kenyan, has the most beautiful ass I have seen in a long time. There are nice asses running around here, but not all are combined with a tiny waist, which makes any true ass lover weak in the knees. She had all that, and she wore sexy heels which made it even more hot. She also had this face for a 25 yo, so she is the complete package. She has a job, so availability is not abundant. I had two shots for 5 k, and uber which was 500 each way. Just the visual of her doggie style will put a couple more inches on your boy, she really needs to be on a site. Grabbing the phat bunda with your hands while in mish is just mah-ve-lus!

    I went on a dinner date with a non-pro Sat. , and she was extremely tired from work, but took the time to see me. I cut her loose, and she came over the next day, and more than made up for Sat. Night with two very good GFE shags. She is into me, and she stayed about 24 hours, and we talked and laughed the entire time. Once I get tired of hunting I will just focus on her. She is traveled, intelligent, and fucking hot with the makeup. She asked me to go to Naivasha to some sort of festival this weekend. She told me you may dump me when you see all the hot women at the festival. Note to mongers in the area, that might be an option.

    Number three (raised dress in the pic) lives kinda close, and while using the apps, sites, focus on how far the chics are away from you. They are way more inclined to come if you are close, which makes for easier pay day. I look for hot bodies, within my area, and go from there. They will alays ask for at least 10 k upfront. Just emphasize you have been there before and you know what is fair. Go from there. I have one coming in the morning from Eastlands with huge F bra tits, but she aint pretty. I just want to play with dem tities. The Fri. Chic would not allow pics yet, maybe next time, but I found a pic from 2017 that is pretty close to what I had.

    The non-pro explained how taxes are going up for everybody, and they sent in undercover interns to KRA to report back, and they subsequently cleaned it up. I didn't know the street vendors are paying taxes! There are a couple stunners on Tinder, and Blendr, and obviously hoes I want to get, and then just settle in with a non pro, because its always haggling over the raising prices here, which ruins the mood because they try to take you for a fool. My next steps are some of the massage places I used to visit, and Amboseli Lane, Apples, Liedos, and bar negotiations. My data base of women have gained weight, had babies, or whatever else. I don't have time right now, not staying my usual 30 days.
    I can concur with the taxes. Kenyatta got to get that nut for the SGR they are taxing vendors now and the price of food is through the roof.

    If you want 9's and 10's a noob is going to be charged 100 and it's hard (but not impossible) to pay less than 40. It is what it is. You could try to get cut rate prices in Navasha or Nakuru but the choice girls go to Nai or MBA to hustle so there's that.

    Like you said it's conservative in Africa they could've went the Thai walking street route but they simply don't want to. That's the reason there's no high end point and click brothels out here.

    Trip.

  10. #3322
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    I cancelled my Tinder Gold subscription shortly before coming to Kenya. What's the deal with credit card renewal? Any danger of their pulling the automatic renewal trick to help themselves to your credit card ever after?
    Tinder didn't work that well for me in Uganda. Girls either didn't come or played offended when I broached the topic of "transport money".
    T Gold works for me here, Indonesia and the Phils. It, does not work at all, in the US. As I sit here, I am getting "Likes", 2 and 3 at a time. If your done just cancel, and renew when your ready to play the game again. I assume the Ugandans are broke and can't really afford smartphones. Then in that case, it makes sense you will have more opportunities in the clubs, and the street.

    I will retire to the Phils eventually to use that as my base of operations, using that place as a springboard for travels. I don't know X, it seems you have to fine tune your monger game, and be sensitive to what works for you, and your limitations including your looks and your budget, where it works or not, and with whom-or who, whichever is correct. You left kinda pissed, when the point is to leave satisfied. You seemed like you had fun in FKK, but I did not even try that because there were none in Kiel, and think I would have bad service because of some racism. I did not want to leave Germany pissed over pussy, so the play is to not even try. I'm also adjusting my Kenya game, by not coming here as often as I used to, and trying Uganda, and TZ. The guys here have not answered you, but you maybe should have tried Mombasa first.

    I mean in the end, in the 3rd world, the chics going to want to have some dignity after fucking a stranger for money. An extra five bucks for transport after your coming all that way to fuck is kinda like fighting the whole process. OK, so if that's what it will take, then get less women, and go to a movie or something. As I said, once I shag enough, I will focus on one to avoid the bullshit of fighting over money and figuring out logistics of getting her in and out. After all, it beats fighting over money to somebody your married to for a lifetime, that only ends up taking your shit after so many years. Just my 02 cent.

  11. #3321

    Tinder indeed

    I cancelled my Tinder Gold subscription shortly before coming to Kenya. What's the deal with credit card renewal? Any danger of their pulling the automatic renewal trick to help themselves to your credit card ever after?

    Tinder didn't work that well for me in Uganda. Girls either didn't come or played offended when I broached the topic of "transport money".

  12. #3320

    Boots on the ground

    So I arrived Fri. And I have had 3 in 4 days thus far. I could have had number 4 tonight, but I'm feeling stingy, and kinda tire of haggling down from ridiculous pricing, and also want to pace myself. Will get her later because of her big tits. I have proven my point that the way to go with these women is using apps. I have not tried the clubs, bars so far. That will be Fri. Sat. When my friend gets here.

    There is a chic with the most beautiful ass on Tinder, and with T Gold you can see who has swiped right on you, and she did. I got her Whatsapp, and put her in my database for arrival. When I got in Fri. , I texted her, and video chat verified her, and she said I'm ready. OH MAN, that chic, who is not Kenyan, has the most beautiful ass I have seen in a long time. There are nice asses running around here, but not all are combined with a tiny waist, which makes any true ass lover weak in the knees. She had all that, and she wore sexy heels which made it even more hot. She also had this face for a 25 yo, so she is the complete package. She has a job, so availability is not abundant. I had two shots for 5 k, and uber which was 500 each way. Just the visual of her doggie style will put a couple more inches on your boy, she really needs to be on a site. Grabbing the phat bunda with your hands while in mish is just mah-ve-lus!

    I went on a dinner date with a non-pro Sat. , and she was extremely tired from work, but took the time to see me. I cut her loose, and she came over the next day, and more than made up for Sat. Night with two very good GFE shags. She is into me, and she stayed about 24 hours, and we talked and laughed the entire time. Once I get tired of hunting I will just focus on her. She is traveled, intelligent, and fucking hot with the makeup. She asked me to go to Naivasha to some sort of festival this weekend. She told me you may dump me when you see all the hot women at the festival. Note to mongers in the area, that might be an option.

    Number three (raised dress in the pic) lives kinda close, and while using the apps, sites, focus on how far the chics are away from you. They are way more inclined to come if you are close, which makes for easier pay day. I look for hot bodies, within my area, and go from there. They will alays ask for at least 10 k upfront. Just emphasize you have been there before and you know what is fair. Go from there. I have one coming in the morning from Eastlands with huge F bra tits, but she aint pretty. I just want to play with dem tities. The Fri. Chic would not allow pics yet, maybe next time, but I found a pic from 2017 that is pretty close to what I had.

    The non-pro explained how taxes are going up for everybody, and they sent in undercover interns to KRA to report back, and they subsequently cleaned it up. I didn't know the street vendors are paying taxes! There are a couple stunners on Tinder, and Blendr, and obviously hoes I want to get, and then just settle in with a non pro, because its always haggling over the raising prices here, which ruins the mood because they try to take you for a fool. My next steps are some of the massage places I used to visit, and Amboseli Lane, Apples, Liedos, and bar negotiations. My data base of women have gained weight, had babies, or whatever else. I don't have time right now, not staying my usual 30 days.
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  13. #3319
    Quote Originally Posted by TaiwanLaowai  [View Original Post]
    My biggest complaint about online is photos are often not an accurate representation of what the girl is like in person. and perhaps leaving a business card with them would be an effective way to drum up interesting dates? If urban Kenyan culture, is there an understanding that a 'date' would likely result in some sort of mutually beneficial transaction no matter whether the man is white, black tourist, or black local? Do girls who become regulars treat you like a friend after a while if you are nice to them and give better deals? Sorry for the newbie sounding questions but your thoughts and experiences might be interesting to many. Onojid, how do you source your girls? If online, how early in advance of your arrival do you get started? Thanks so much guys for your valuable, interesting, and entertaining posts.
    Actually, I have only been catfished one time in years of Kenya mongering. I don't know if that happens often in your monger spots. The only way you really see a diff (IMO) is if the girl had money at the time to put an attractive pic up. If she is broke when she shows up, no weave, no makeup, no nice clothes. That's actually in your benefit because price should be lower. You know, I can see that you guys are really seeing the women here as objects, and forgetting how this is a very conservative country. You don't RTFF, don't know women, and really don't know Black women. Got no game. Once with you, they going to be thought of as a hoe, long after your gone. That's what they are asking you to pay for with crazy prices. Of course some don't care if they a pro, but a job is hard to find, and a good rep hard to keep. The word out that she goes with foreigner won't help her position. A business card in passing may help, but don't expect to stop and chat in unless your a hot dude, esp in CBD. I'm Black, and it does not work for me either.

  14. #3318

    Batis, Simmers, Madhouse, F2 -- farewell my firends

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokeris  [View Original Post]
    Your story sounds interesting but I thought this club is shut down. Google maps stated is closed and also can find some reports on kenyatalk forums people saying its shut down many people get drugged here with mchele before looks like it was completely shit hole place.
    Quote Originally Posted by NGong  [View Original Post]
    I follow message about Kenya and always be surprised with the report some people send.

    I know New Stanley and the other upgrade hotels and I know when you invited a nairobi lady to New Stanley or Serena you pay the high price because they also know the hotels.

    New Stanley have a very strict security and bringing a lady inside get always attention from the staff special the SW because of the style.

    This are story tellers who want to take attention and that is why I only read but this last one is not real.
    Good catch, NGong and Pokeris! Got to call bullshit now on all that person's posts. Doesn't help that he (she?) is a new member.

    I remember the shock and heartbreak I felt when I read on Kenya Talk that Batis has been closed, soon before 2019 August 21, proof:

    https://www.kenyatalk.com/index.php?...mchezo.120208/

    I felt so crushed second only to Simmers' demise. When Batis closed, I knew for certain then that the era of CBD mongering was over.

    And I can attest that it was NOT a shithole--it was on par with Simmers, but a notch or two below in rating. (For those old enough to remember what a REAL shithole was, think back to Modern Green.).

    Sure, you weren't going to find girls 8, 9's or 10's in terms of looks; but in terms of 'service' and costs, definitely you could get an 8-out-of-10 experience most times. See pics.

    Bit a funny note: when I told a former Batis chic that "I could no longer come to Kenya because the place was closed, haha", she said she had gone legit, now working in a shop, because no longer good bsuiness in town.
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  15. #3317

    Like many others have said: Nairobi. End of an Era

    Quote Originally Posted by Neddy69  [View Original Post]
    Times are over. Florida 2 k, Simmers closed down. Internet has been a big game changer. Chicas hang out at Tinder Badoo Tagged. Why? No need to hang out late night. Consider transport costs rising. The chic has to consider going home empty handed. Its business. Expenses for chics like transport drinks bites into budget. Plus changing markets. Joints closing down everywhere. Razed to the ground. I am in Entebbe now. Expats told me 5 years ago the joints were bustling. Now? All left a couple of expired hookers in 4 turkeys. Saturday dead as a dodo. You have to adjust. Chicas are everywhere. But nightlife is going down everywhere. That's a fact. Florida Madhouse. Tembo. Tempos passados. RIP.
    As always, Brother Neddy has spoken the real deal.

    Badoo, Tagged, Tinder, hell even AfroIntroductions {better known as 'pay-to-play', LOL} are the only ("safe") games in town, now.

    Quote Originally Posted by NakedGunz  [View Original Post]
    OMG! Tribeka is gone! That was the perfect spot for afternoon Tusker on the balcony watching pussy go by! Nairobi becoming less of a monger destination.
    Although I never liked Tribeka, it was the go-to place after Simmers was destroyed.

    All just proves that CBD mongering is over, as I quote myself:

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...19#post2296419

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