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  1. #216
    It was just a funny tale. Estonia should be less poor than Ukraine because it joined EU and therefore it is no possible 200 euros to fuck a Baltic beauty for a whole month.

    Anyway I had considered baltic females and their phenotype is very interesting but the weather is too cold for me. I think the best country for me is Ukraine!

    Towns and females spoilt? By now, all Eastern countries are pretty emancipated. All Westerners should change their behaviour otherwise we shall find the same feminism power both in West and in East in few years, with NO matter about economical crisis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vigilantemoscow
    Tallinn is totally spoilt, originally by Finns going for cheaper alcohol and after they joined EU by the hordes of Brits with stag-dos plus Italians, Spanish etc.

    Sweet memories, in 98 Disco Hollywood was the closest thing I even saw to the Playboy Mansion, with an impossibly high ratio female:male and unreal beautiful creatures.

    Baltic beauty is the perfect combination of of Slavic and Scandinavian features. Personality wise they are pretty much Scandinavian although not of course almost half of the population, who has Russian roots and feel themselves as Russians.

    200 can be spent in a single night out a Cafe Amigo, personal blowers can not live on that.

    Vigilante

  2. #215
    Tallinn is totally spoilt, originally by Finns going for cheaper alcohol and after they joined EU by the hordes of Brits with stag-dos plus Italians, Spanish etc...

    Sweet memories, in 98 Disco Hollywood was the closest thing I even saw to the Playboy Mansion, with an impossibly high ratio female:male and unreal beautiful creatures.

    Baltic beauty is the perfect combination of of Slavic and Scandinavian features. Personality wise they are pretty much Scandinavian although not of course almost half of the population, who has Russian roots and feel themselves as Russians.

    200 can be spent in a single night out a Cafe Amigo, personal blowers can not live on that.

    Vigilante

    Quote Originally Posted by Acolonizer
    Oooh, Russian, Bielorussians, Ukrainians,... Pro and versus, the same old story, the difference is how the man plays the tricky game, we are sure, capital cities are spoilt, better in provinces but they are not for beginners, Moscow is simply too much expensive for hunting, serious relationships? If they exist, they need time, time, time (and time is money).

    Just for your fun, a similar story I am hearing here in North Italy, before a lot of Italians went to Romania (and they have allowed Romanian criminals to come to Italy) and now the new trend is to go to Talinn because somebody says "a retired man can hire a "personal blowjober" with 200 euros/month". Does it mean we have to go to Estonia and not to Bielorussia?

  3. #214
    Oooh, Russian, Bielorussians, Ukrainians,... Pro and versus, the same old story, the difference is how the man plays the tricky game, we are sure, capital cities are spoilt, better in provinces but they are not for beginners, Moscow is simply too much expensive for hunting, serious relationships? If they exist, they need time, time, time (and time is money).

    Just for your fun, a similar story I am hearing here in North Italy, before a lot of Italians went to Romania (and they have allowed Romanian criminals to come to Italy) and now the new trend is to go to Talinn because somebody says "a retired man can hire a "personal blowjober" with 200 euros/month". Does it mean we have to go to Estonia and not to Bielorussia?

  4. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by Prosal
    ...

    What about Belarussian girls by the way ? ...they are obviously not as "wild" as their Russian counterparts, but what about their other characteristics?
    Interesting point !

    I think Belarussian girls are even more emotional and genuily passionate than russians due to the low number of mongers and zero tourists going there. ( if girl asks why are you in Moscow or Piter, you can answer business or tourism. In the russian provincies answer for business, no tourism there. But wtf you answer if she asks why are you in ..... Gomel )

    I am pretty sure they are less spoiled, they travel for example much less than russians. ( I am thinking right now how many russians go to Egypt in comparison of Belarussians going there for example... ).

    They are more poor, more stuck in their country, almost a prison under their "beloved" Lukashenko and more willing to escape forever with the trick of marriage.

    And for one girl travel to west europe, watching and thinking how native women in west europe behave, it means she will go back home and spoil 10 friends of her telling how in west europe usually women and not men lead.

    I never been to Minsk, I am just guessing, but I read a lot of Belarussia thread in the years and I chatted with some and met 2 in FKK.
    They are much more into relationship than into the simple one night of fun, so it takes time to get one of them naked, so probably this is the reason why only very few of us went to Belarussia together the fact that prostitution there is illegal, so mongering scene is almost zero in comparison to Russia and UA.

    Obviously imho, but I have the feeling I am not so far from the truth....

  5. #212
    I don't see how a "spoiled girl" can be categorised as a "freebie" on a short holiday. Chances is after at least two fully serviced nights out and one present you are spending the same than P2P but with considerable more hassle and time (the most precious commodity).

    And maintaining a spoiled girl for a long term fuck buddy relationship I think it is called in Russia "sponsorship"

    Don't get my wrong, I am a freebie lover for the genuine excitement of the chasing and conquering but there is nothing such as a free lunch nowadays I am afraid.

    By the way, Kiev is worst than Moscow. Too many tourists, too many strip clubs, too many marriage agencies, too many golddiggers. I am keen in exploring Minsk.

    Vigilantexx

    Quote Originally Posted by Prosal
    A girl a bit "spoiled" isn't necessarily that bad. As long as you are aware of her nature and you manipulate her more cunningly than she (tries to) manipulate you.

    When you are on a three or four weeks sex-vacations in a single place, and if your goal is to fuck as many hot freebies as possible, it's IMO easier to deal with "spoiled girls" than with genuinely passionate and emotional girls. That is what makes me seriously hesitating about a - scheduled - long stay in Moscow. My two current GFs there (who both come regularly here in Paris) are WAY too involved in the relationship for that I could really freely move when I will be on site. And honestly, manipulating and cheating such girls is not fair.

    I wonder if in that respect (vacations dedicated to a max of no strings attached hot flings with freebie sluts), Ukraine isn't better than Russia ?!?

    It would be really interesting to have specialists opinion on this point.

    What about Belarussian girls by the way ? ...they are obviously not as "wild" as their Russian counterparts, but what about their other characteristics?

  6. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Prosal
    Russians are undoubtedly more emotional and genuinely passionate than ukrainian women.
    x100.

    No comparison.

  7. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by Passepartout
    Totally agree!! wasn't able to find a nice (on all parts) girlfriend in Kiev in 1 month...."spoiled" is THE proper word for Ukrainians.
    A girl a bit "spoiled" isn't necessarily that bad. As long as you are aware of her nature and you manipulate her more cunningly than she (tries to) manipulate you.

    When you are on a three or four weeks sex-vacations in a single place, and if your goal is to fuck as many hot freebies as possible, it's IMO easier to deal with "spoiled girls" than with genuinely passionate and emotional girls. That is what makes me seriously hesitating about a - scheduled - long stay in Moscow. My two current GFs there (who both come regularly here in Paris) are WAY too involved in the relationship for that I could really freely move when I will be on site. And honestly, manipulating and cheating such girls is not fair. Spoiled girls can be manipulated with less "guilty conscience".

    I wonder if in that respect (vacations dedicated to a max of no strings attached hot flings with freebie sluts), Ukraine isn't better than Russia ?!?

    It would be really interesting to have specialists opinion on this point.

    What about Belarussian girls by the way ? ...they are obviously not as "wild" as their Russian counterparts, but what about their other characteristics?

  8. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    My 2 euro... I prefer much more russians, a bit less beautiful maybe, but less spoiled than ukranians, but I am curious to know what the others think about it.
    Totally agree!! wasn't able to find a nice (on all parts) girlfriend in Kiev in 1 month...."spoiled" is THE proper word for Ukrainians.

    I am afraid to simply see in Ukraine what we start to see in Moscow and what we will have in russia in 10 years...I really hope the russians will keep the actual visa rules and high prices in moscow for hostel and food :-)

  9. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    Prosal,I agree, but I am curious, any historical reasons for this difference ?
    Luka, I fucking don't know, but I wouldn't mind spending the next ten years studying those differences (on site, and on a VERY large sample).

  10. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by Prosal
    Russians are undoubtedly more emotional and genuinely passionate than ukrainian women.
    Prosal,

    I agree, but I am curious, any historical reasons for this difference ?

  11. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Prosal
    Russians are undoubtedly more emotional and genuinely passionate than ukrainian women.
    There are common traits held by girls depending upon:
    a) upbringing (city vs province)
    b) money (wealthy vs poor)
    c) education (high vs rudimentary)
    and last...
    d) country of origin

    Focusing in on the last one and ignoring the rest is a fruitless pursuit.

  12. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    My 2 euro... I prefer much more russians, a bit less beautiful maybe, but less spoiled than ukranians, but I am curious to know what the others think about it.
    Russians are undoubtedly more emotional and genuinely passionate than ukrainian women.

  13. #204

    Russian vs ukr girls

    My 2 euro... I prefer much more russians, a bit less beautiful maybe, but less spoiled than ukranians, but I am curious to know what the others think about it.

  14. #203

    Russian vs ukr girls

    I recently has a not encou *** with super not looking russian girl from Piter.What can I say?Russian girls are much more classy than ukr girls and better in every though more expensive.Ukrainian girls are more provincial russian are city girls and like class.

  15. #202
    Thanks for the link, it might also help me with my girl.

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