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  1. #421
    Quote Originally Posted by Stravinsky  [View Original Post]
    Russian women are a little like jet fuel. You need to take a step back and make some changes in your operating parameters before you self destruct; install some oversize injector ports, adjust the fuel mixture, maybe open up the exhaust a little and then get used to running at the higher RPM's that Russian women require before before you take any serious decisions.
    Ha ha ha. Good one!!

  2. #420
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    Hard to explain. Look it up on Trip Adviser or phobia.ru. It is like a puzzle activity. Not clubbing at all. Moscow has lots to do in the middle of the night.)).
    Oh ok, thanks for the answer. I found a reportage about these kinds of activity on the net. Exotic, but not very safe I would say, specially the pat where you guys enter old, abandoned properties. Not my cup of tea, but anyone has his own taste. Maybe I am too old for such adventures.

    What about swinger clubs? Does anyone have experience on that? I recently found an upcoming event, that I would consider visiting (see details bellow), anyone else would like to give it a try (I translated it via google translator)?

    Dear friends!

    July 4, club "Fortuna" invites you to "Southern Coast"!

    Soaking in a corner of southern landscapes and sun.

    Enjoy a hot bath, warm sand and gentle water.

    Party Format: Gang-Bang, welcome couples, single men and women.

    Cost of participation:

    Couple -2000 rubles.

    Man - 3000 rubles.

    Women. For free!

    Great music from our favorite DJ.

    Leading (I am not sure what this is supposed mean).

    Our parties are held on the system.

    All Inclusive!

    Hot and cold snacks.

    Whiskey, cognac, wine, champagne, beer, b / a drink.

    All this does not end until the end of the party.

    We do not skimp on the organization of your stay.

  3. #419
    Quote Originally Posted by SanGaetano  [View Original Post]
    But what the bleep is a "claustrophobia activity"?).

    Sounds like "clubbing", according to the hours you said.
    Hard to explain. Look it up on Trip Adviser or phobia.ru. It is like a puzzle activity. Not clubbing at all. Moscow has lots to do in the middle of the night.)).

  4. #418
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    I promised myself the next time I will make a play for Ksusha. I am learning some new phrases that might come in handy. I came across an old CityXGuide Forum where some familiar characters had some lively discussion on that exact topic.
    So, enlighten us!

  5. #417

    Interesting report

    [QUOTE=YummyPL;1586939Клаустрофобия .[/QUOTE]But what the bleep is a "claustrophobia activity"?).

    Sounds like "clubbing", according to the hours you said.

  6. #416
    Quote Originally Posted by Jake993  [View Original Post]
    IF this true, then perhaps you are dealing with a woman who has evolved beyond her Russian roots into something that more closely resembles a "Western Woman". Which, of course, begs the question "what's the point?
    Thank you gentlemen for a great exchange of ideas. It is the best exchange we have had in a while.)) I hope it will give others some insight, too.

    Really, I am not as pathetic as I sound here. Nothing either of you have said is a surprise to me and clearly you are right.

    Just this afternoon I basically dumped Anna, rejuvenated Sveta, and skyped with Ariel for an hour where she spent a good chunk of time showing me some clothes she bought which included stripping down to nothing or almost nothing about 15 times and showing herself off to me.

    Before I even started this discussion I promised myself the next time I will make a play for Ksusha. I am learning some new phrases that might come in handy. I came across an old CityXGuide Forum where some familiar characters had some lively discussion on that exact topic.

  7. #415

    Винни Пух

    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    I am doing better in Russia than I ever thought would be possible. I don't want to fuck up a great thing.

    But in reality my relationship with Ariel is more important to me than fucking Ksusha. This is why I am asking the question.
    OMG... we've lost him. He's in love.

    You need to take a moment, step back from the situation, and get some fresh, well-seasoned perspective. When you first set your sights on Moscow, you were absolutely fearless. You jumped in feet first, locked 'n loaded, guns blazing. But now, it seems, you've got your paw stuck in the honey pot and you're not quite sure what to do about it.

    First, you need to separate the dancer from the dance. Of course you've been fabulously successful and are having the time of your life. For the first time in your life, you are in Russia. You need to understand, any man in your situation, willing to make the kind of commitment of time and effort that you have made will also be fabulously successful. There are some members of this forum who hardly report anymore because they are too busy managing their stable of Russian girlfriends (you know who you are).

    Second, you need to get a perspective on Russian women. For American men, Russian women are a little like jet fuel. You need to take a step back and make some changes in your operating parameters before you self destruct; install some oversize injector ports, adjust the fuel mixture, maybe open up the exhaust a little and then get used to running at the higher RPM's that Russian women require before before you take any serious decisions.

    As to your question about the specific consequences of fucking Ariel's girlfriend, I concur with Jake, there is no reason for concern. Only American women are so insecure about their sexuality that they need to invent elaborate plots to trick their boyfriend/spouse into exposing themselves as the dogs that they know all men to be (again, need to stop thinking like an American). Russian women don't need to do this because they already know that all men are dogs, and they're fine with that--up to a point of course.

    When Ariel sat down in your lap and discovered your new found affection for Ksyusha poking up between her thighs, she had all the evidence she needed to condemn you, if that was her purpose. The fact that she, and Ksyusha, were able to laugh about it shows that it was not a big deal for them.

    You need to consider the possibility that Ariel and Ksyusha are just as perplexed by your behavior as you are by theirs.

    So, go ahead and enjoy yourself, buddy boy--grab that brass ring. But you do need to be a little discreet about it, I mean you are, after all, a gentleman. Probably not a good idea for Ariel to step out of the shower, walk into the living room and find you porking her girlfriend. But the next time your girlfriend invites her girlfriend to join you in bed, you might try something, you know, subtle. Take Ksyushas hand, gently, and wrap it around your cock.

    It's those simple gestures of intimacy that get a girl's heart racing.

    счастливо

    BTW - I still think it's possible that Ariel and Ksyusha may have a whole 'nother agenda that you haven't even thought of yet, just between themselves.

  8. #414
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    The fact is, if I can get away with fucking both girls without losing Ariel, then I am all for it. It would not be the first time. But in reality my relationship with Ariel is more important to me than fucking Ksusha. This is why I am asking the question.
    OK Yummy, I suppose it's POSSIBLE that this is all an elaborate scheme on Ariel's part to "test" you. And that she has enlisted her friend Ksusha to seduce you to the point where you show your true colors thereby breaking the faith with Ariel proving to her once and for all that you are a dirty dog just like her Russian country men. IF this is true (and that's a big IF), then Ariel is a very calculating customer not typically characteristic of Russian women in this day and age.

    Because of the "live for today" attitude that has been so prevalent in post-Soviet Russia, girls of that age tend to take their chances with what they have in front of them at that moment. Opting for "Mr. Right-now" rather than holding our for "Mr. Right". Again, IF this true, then perhaps you are dealing with a woman who has evolved beyond her Russian roots into something that more closely resembles a "Western Woman". Which, of course, begs the question "what's the point?

  9. #413
    Quote Originally Posted by Stravinsky  [View Original Post]
    Regardless of the reason, I think they are deliberately trying to provoke you. I imagine they are curious to see just how long it will take before you take that bad boy out of your pants and actually do something with it. The next time you find yourself with a raging hard-on while Ksyusha is bending over in front of you, you should put it where you think it will do the most good. If the girls call you on it, you have the ultimate excuse--you're a man.
    And this is exactly why I did not ask you directly. I have no doubt she is trying to provoke me. My question is more what can I expect the fallout from that provocation to be?

    Strav, you basically say you are a reformed American male and that in Russia men are expected to act on their sexual urges, but I often think there must be a reason why attractive, young Russian girls would go for a man like me. As totally good looking and charming as I am (not), maybe a Russian girl falls for me precisely because I am different than my Russian brethren. I am doing better in Russian than I ever thought would be possible. I don't want to fuck up a great thing.

    The fact is, if I can get away with fucking both girls without losing Ariel, then I am all for it. It would not be the first time. But in reality my relationship with Ariel is more important to me than fucking Ksusha. This is why I am asking the question.

  10. #412

    And the answer is.

    Bubba Ho-Tep (2002), 13 minutes into the film, just after Callie (blonde, blue top, very short black skirt) throws her father's stuff into the trash bin.

  11. #411
    Quote Originally Posted by Stravinsky  [View Original Post]
    Remember, in Russia, it's OK to be a man. Not only is it OK, it's actually expected.
    Hear, hear Stav. Well put.

    As strange as it may sound, it's the single thing that Westerners here forget most often. We are EXPECTED to respond to our most primal of instincts. Russian girls are raised to EXPECT men to want sex. If a Russian girl is prancing around half naked in front of a man, then she expects to get some sort of a response. This puritanical Western idea of controlling our urges is, to some degree, irrelevant here. Of course, it does not give a man license to behave badly in public or even to be rude to woman. But if a girl is doing something to arouse you, then there is nothing wrong with letting her know that you are aroused. More often than not she will give you the "green light" to proceed or she will slink off in embarrassment.

  12. #410
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    As far as I know, Ksusha and Ariel do not have a history of sharing sexual activity with a man (3-way). I also note that Ksushas most provocative actions are when Ariel is not in the room.
    And the answer is...

    4. All of the above.

    I think Jake is right, although their casual attitude does seem to go beyond BFF's, particularly when displaying their erogenous zones, it's not particularly scandalous.

    The question is, should you respond?

    Don't take this personal, but much of what you report in your post says more about you, specifically, as an American male and your attitudes and predilections regarding sex than it does about the dyevooshki you're with. I know, because I'm an American male myself (reformed).

    Regardless of the reason, I think they are deliberately trying to provoke you. I imagine they are curious to see just how long it will take before you take that bad boy out of your pants and actually do something with it. The next time you find yourself with a raging hard-on while Ksyusha is bending over in front of you, you should put it where you think it will do the most good. If the girls call you on it, you have the ultimate excuse--you're a man.

    Remember, in Russia, it's OK to be a man. Not only is it OK, it's actually expected.

    There is another possibility that you didn't mention--Ariel and Ksyusha have a thing for each other and they want to lure you into a 3 way for their own purposes.

    You are being seduced, buddy boy, lose the Puritanical American upbringing and enjoy it.

    удачи Вам

  13. #409
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]

    So here is my question. I see 3 different possibilities here.

    1. This is just a normal and natural way for these Russian girls to act. Getting practically naked in front of a best friends boyfriend the night you meet is cool, and they dont see it as provocative or problematic at all.

    2. Ksusha (or both girls) is testing me to see if I will make a move on her so that she will know if her best friends boyfriend is only out for sex or is true to her and as a way to protect Ariel.

    3. Ksusha is actually interested in me in some form.
    You got it on the first try. While not universal amongst Russian girls, this kind of thing is quite usual. I have seen this kind of "looney" behavior before. Makes very little sense to the Western mind. The best way for Ksusha to show her approval of Ariel's choice in boyfriends is to tease you and perhaps even hit on you. I doubt very much that it is a test. If you like her, make a move on her and see what happens. You may well end up in a 3-way!!

  14. #408

    Its really NOT that strange.

    Quote Originally Posted by SanGaetano  [View Original Post]
    This is very strange. One person can be that stupid to think she or he can knock a adult guy down with a shot of spray, ok. But this was a GROUP of people as you describe, somebody at last one there must have known that it is impossible for a female or even two to subdue a normal built (doesn't have to be strong) man with just a spray in the hand. This is at least stupid in a collective. Even more interesting is the fact that the same event happened a while ago in Kiew with another post. Something is weird here.
    What WAS the similar post in the Kiev thread? I would very much like to read that!

    That some bandit-gang puttanas in another Russian city tried the same plan? Well, you can bet they're proud enough to post their 'How to Roll a Mark' videos on YouTube.

    You're also forgetting, or did not understand a few key points of what went down. I had already known Tanya for TWO years, sat in my place drinking 5 or 6 times before, and she was always cool. Yes, I knew about her being gang-connected. But I've had other girlfriends like that before, where I live, and I never got rolled by any of them. One afternoon I was at work, two wasted hoes came to my building to blow me, when they saw I wasn't home they got mad and spray painted "FUCK-SHIT-BIX# in the laundry room, HAHA! Though, now that I think about it, if there was ever a crime scene on the news here about a tourist-robbery-gone-wrong-turned-grisly-murder, it was always some fool foreigner! Guess I needed to be taught a hard fucking lesson, because all I ever really watched out for was hoes trying to put roofies in my drink glass.

    Tanya's plan was really counting on the element of surprise, and it almost worked. When I say almost, I really mean that it was as close as it could get. It must have been the first time they tried this. The "shot" of spray you imagine, was not a like a small stream or jet, it was really a giant fucking cloud. It was SO much, and because she blasted me from point blank and right at the small space of the doorway, it looked like half of the cloud blew right back in HER face.

    The plan was for Tanya to confuse me, keeping me busy JUST long enough so her girlfriend could grab my key out of the lock. The first part DID work. I don't think in all my life I have ever been THAT confused, in that moment when she pressed the valve to blast the gas in my face. At the same moment in my brain, I did not know what happened, I couldn't believe it! But then somehow I realized instantly that if her girlfriend got the key, then I couldn't GET out, OR push THEM out. I knew if she got the key out of the door with it still locked, I would have to fight them to get it back, while they would be gassing me more, and that it probably would have gotten extremely and terribly violent, and that either I was going to have kill them or they would have to kill me, one or the other.

    And it would have worked, because that gas really fucking chokes you and blinds you, but it does take about 15-20 seconds to completely immobilize you, when the fire ignites in your eyes, ears, nose, mouth, lungs, and all the skin on your face, scalp, and neck.

    But because Tanya got surprised too, by so much gas blowing back in her own face, she lost her concentration for just long enough, that instead of jumping ON me, I immediately lunged at her, lifting her up off the floor to throw her against the closet door. So because I got the jump on HER, when she bounced back towards me off the closet door, she was only able to stab me in the knee as I put her down to the ground with a roundhouse kick.

    Stopping Tanya gave me just enough time to get my hand on the key in the door, before her girlfriend reached for it to take it out of the door. The moment I got my hand on the key, her girlfriend grabbed my hand with BOTH of her hands, desperately pulling and trying to make me let go of the key. I still had one hand free to pull her hands off of my hand, so I did that, pushed her down to the floor, and turned the key. That was it, that was everything, I opened the door, air to take a breath! I grabbed them one at a time, throwing their heads against the wall in the hallway hard enough to fall down. When they hit the floor, I closed and locked the door, GAME OVER.

    Well, for them. I still had to deal with the neighbors and the Militsia, and bleeding for hours. And that was after sitting in the tub with ice water pouring over my head for 30 minutes.

    So finally to your question, yes, about the GROUP. When I first buzzed Tanya in on the domafon, just the two of them came up in the elevator. If they had brought in guys, to come up the stairs and wait, when I opened the door to throw out Tanya and her girlfriend out, if guys were waiting there, they would have a chance to rush the door, and I would not be here now writing this. Seriously.

    I learned my lesson, everybody please pay attention now, OK???? ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be careful. When it doesn't feel right, BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL. Just don't associate with gangs. Always obey ALL laws.

    There's a few cool places, by the way, that sell very sharp hunting knives, not expensive at all, they are very effective for self defense. The last thing that anyone should EVER get involved with is violence. Always obey ALL laws!

    Never hurts to let anyone know, and I always do, that as long as they behave themselves, everything will always be pleasant and actually they'll be very happy, BUT, IF they even get ANY ideas about trying to pull some shit like robbing me, I will of course be legally justified and very practiced to act in self defense, and prepared to use excessive deadly force with those very sharp hunting knives, and that would be a shame because there will only be pieces left of them to scoop up for their funeral.

    Just so, you know, they don't get the wrong idea, you know what I mean?

  15. #407

    Question

    Im going to ask everyone about a situation and I would appreciate feedback from people that have experience here.

    I now have what I consider a real girlfriend in Moscow. I call her Ariel as her name is unusual and I dont want anyone connecting this report with her. So much so that I am not really exploring options for new girls and am doing minimal work to maintain old girls. So the last two times I was Moscow (in May and this past weekend) my girlfriend stayed with me in my apartment for the whole trip (8 nights and 2 nights, respectively). On both trips, we invited her friend Ksusha to stay with us for the night on one of the nights and went out to a activity called Клаустрофобия before returning to the apartment. For my taste, except being tally than I like, Ksusha is a knockout. I love her look.Fantastic body and lovely face. For my personal taste, she is a solid 8.

    When we were out together, and when we were at the apartment together before sleeping, Ksusha was friendly, a little flirty, and very nice. She smiled a lot and seemed to be enjoying herself. There was alittle sexual talk but it was just talk and there was zero physical contact of sexual or even flirty nature during either evenings (she didnt put her hand on my knee or touch my arm while talking or any of that standard flirty stuff. We sat next to each other a couple of times so there was contact then). So that was our interaction.

    Now a note about me. I personally have 2 strong fetishes, with an additional ancillary fetish that goes along with one of the others. My first fetish is a girls tummy. I love a bare tummy and low rise jeans and a cropped shirt is about as sexy as anything can be to me if the girl has a thin, flat tummy. My other fetish is panties with the ancillary fetish of a girl wearing MY tshirt and her panties. Although I have never talked about them explicitly, Ariel has to be very aware of both of these fetishes. I have given her a dozen pairs of panties and I pay a LOT of attention to her tummy especially when she is wearing clothes. Ariel is very smart so I cant imagine she has not noted this.

    Now I find it hard to believe that Ariel coordinated Ksushas wardrobe, but both times Ksusha wore something that is exactly my taste. She wore low rise jeans and a top that basically exposed her exquisite tummy the entire time we were out together. If she were showing cleavage, or had a short skirt on, I would have easily been able to enjoy it without having problems with staring or anything, but her exposed tummy was very difficult for me to ignore. Despite my arousal, I managed to contain my composure most of the time we were out.

    Back in May Ksusha arrived at the apartment at around 22:00 and we sat around a table playing a board game until about 00:30 when we went to get food then went to the Клаустрофобия activity. We got back to the apartment about 04:00 and got ready for bed. Despite Ksusha already wearing a tank-top that I thing should have been fine for sleeping, Asya asked if I had a tshirt for her. OF COURSEI had a tshirt she could wear. The tshirt I chose for her was my Sublime tshirt which is old and very thin. I handed Ksusha the shirt and she went off to her bedroom not to be seen again (the apartment has a small second bedroom I had prepared for her). Ariel and I went off to our room which was right next door. When we got in the room we practically ripped off our clothes and started having sex. Ariel was her normal very vocal self. I can only think that Ksusha heard everything of our hour+ session.

    Ariel and I woke up around noon and after coffee, she went to take a shower. Moments after she closed the bathroom door, Ksusha appeared in, guess what, my tshirt and no pants. I assumed she was wearing panties but the tshirt was long enough that it covered them. Ksushas legs looked great, and the tshirt was showing off her body very nicely.

    I asked Ksusha if she wanted coffee, she said yess, and she came in the room to talk to me. I was wearing a tshirt and jeans so I was fully covered. We sat on the couch, and instead of sitting very lady like, she sat indian style on the couch facing me which gave me an excellent view of her braless breasts in my thin tshirt and also gave me an excellent view of the crtch of her very skimpy panties. She also shifted several times and gave me better views. She stood up and walked around and gave me a great view of her ass. I was in voyeur heaven, but I maintained my composure and did not give any overt indication that she was doing anything to me.

    When the shower stopped (it was a long shower), Ksusha disappeared and apparently went into the bathroom, because soon after that Ariel came out and I heard the shower running again. Ariel was just wearing a towel and we fooled around some until the shower stooped and then Ariel went to get dressed. Not long both girls came out fully dressed and soon after they left because Ariel had to go to work. That is the end of Ksusha part 1.

    The next day Ariel and I were talking. We had been planning a trip to Bali together. I was showing her pictures of the place we were staying and it was big and had 5+ beds. I was thinking that it would be fun to have sex all over this place, but Ariel came up with the idea of inviting Ksusha. I wasnt sure about it, but I was open to it. Ariel asked how much it would be for Ksusha. I told her that I would pay for everything for food, accommodations, and entertainment, and that Ksusha would only need to get her airline ticket and could get whatever she wanted with that. Ariel thought that was great. So with this, it is clear to me that Ariel is comfortable with Ksusha and me, but based on what had happened with Ksusha, I had zero clear indication whether anything sexual would occur. I thought the only thing I could count on for sure was that there would be friendly eye-candy running around.

    In any case, cutting out the details, Ksusha did not end up going to Bali with us, but when I returned to Moscow dfor the weekend, we again invited Ksusha over for the night to go to do Клаустрофобия. Ksusha said she would arrive at the apartment around 21:00. Ariel said it was more likely she would show up around 23:00 so wanted to watch a movie in bed while we waited for her. So Ariel and I are in bed, Im in my tshirt and boxers and Ariel in my tshirt and her panties watching the movie on the TV and DVD player in the room (Butterfly Effect in English with Russian subs). Ariel seemed shocked that around 21:00 (30 minutes into the movie), Ksusha sernt a SMS saying she had arrived.

    So Ariel ran downstairs (1 flight, the owner had not given us the door code) without putting pants on and brought Ksusha upstairs. They talked some in Russian (I understood almost none of it) but Ariel said she wanted to finish the movie. So Ksusha took off her pants and joined us in bed. I was on one side of the bed and Ariel was in the middle with Ksusha on the far side. For most of the movie Ariel was laying against my chest and I had my arms around her with the occasional sexual touching. There was almost no contact with Ksusha during the movie, but it was nice knowing she was in bed next to us.

    So when we get out of bed, Ksusha puts her pants on immediately, and I followed her lead and put my jeans on but Ariel stayed in my tshirt and her panties.

    We hung around the apartment some, ate food, did some Russian language practice (mostly swear words and slang), and then at 01:30 we went to our activity. We got back home around 04:00. This was a different apartment from last time and theer was no second bedroom. Ksusha was set to sleep on the couch. Again Ariel asked if Ksusha could use one of my tshirts and I said of course. I actually had the same Sublime tshirt she wore the previous month, and brought that to her. She asked me if that was going to be her tshirt, and I said something like no, I just liked it better after she wore it. She gave me the biggest smile.

    In any case, she still had her jeans on but instead of waiting or going into the other room, she turned her back to me and Ariel, she took her own shirt and bra off, and put my tshirt on. She then took her jeans off. It seemed very erotic to me. Only after she changed clothes did she walk into the bathroom. She could have easily changed clothes in there. While Ksusha was in the bathroom, Ariel and I headed off to the bedroom, and again had a very nice session of very vocal sex.

    Around 11:00 in the morning Ariel and I went to the living room and Ksusha was still asleep. We woke her up by Ariel pouncing on her. I was wearing my tshirt and boxers and Ariel was wearing my tshirt and some very skimpy and VERY sheer panties I had given her. Ksusha woke up and stayed in my Tshirt and her (also quite skimpy) panties. We had coffee and Ariel made us breakfast. Both girls looked great but neither was being particularly flirty with me. They had a converstation in Russian that I hardly understood any of but after the conversation Ksusha went to the bathroom. Ariel told me she had an appointment at 14:00 and so had to go soon for a couple of hours and that Ksusha was going for a massage so would leave at the same time. At that point Ksusha returned from the bathroom wearing only her own tanktop which was white and tight fitting and no bra, and her panties. Her body was devine and what she wore left very little to the imagination.

    I am observing the situation sitting on the couch drinking coffee. The girls talked more in Russian and then Ksusha started doing some yoga-like exercises. Ariel then left the room to take a shower. So I am sitting on the couch and Ksusha is talking to me while wearing very little and bending and stretching and spreading her legs and showing me pretty much everything she could without actually getting naked. I am very casual about it all and dont get off the couch and dont comment on her activities. I am sitting there in my boxers with an absolute raging hard-on and I cant get rid of it, and I cant stand up. It was a mix of heaven and torture. Not long later Ariel completed her shower and moments later came back in the room wearing just a towel. Ksusha does not stiop her exercising and Ariel joins her for a few stretches and bends exposing her bare ass and pussy repeatedly. Afeter a while she comes over and sits on my lap and starts to laught when she finds my state of arousal. She says a few things to Ksusha and then just sits on my lap with her arms around me with a big smile while Ksusha finishes up her exercises.

    When Ksusha is done, she goes off to the shower and Ariel and I play a bit until the shower stops. After her shower, Ksusha comes back in the room briefly wrapped in just a towel and then goes back to the bathroom. Ariel and I go to get dressed (I said I would shower when they left) and when we went back out Ksusha was already dressed. Not long after, both girls left. A couple of hours later, Ariel returned to me and we went immediately to the bedroom for some sex. Afterward we just rested in each others arms for a couple of hours until it was time for me to leave. We walked to a restaurant, had a late lunch, then she drove me to the aeroexpress and I was gone.

    In my three previous experiences with Russian girls inviting over their girlfriends, it was obvious to me that it was both expected and invited for me to be both verbally and physically flirtatyious with the girlfriends. All the other relationships I had were super casual and I dont think the girls really thought of me as their serious boyfriend. Diana invited over Katya and later Katya and I hooked up. Katya invited over Nadya, we had significant physical flirting and later Nadya and I hooked up. Kori invited over Sveta and overtly suggested I start seeing Sveta and basically invited me to be physically flirtatious with her.

    In this case, Ariel and I have become more serious. Ariel says she loves me and I believe she at least thinks she does. I am also pretty smitten with Ariel and have strong feelings for her. There is certainly no overt suggestion I should be physically flirtatious with Ksusha and certainly no invitation to start seeing her. As far as I know, Ksusha and Ariel do not have a history of sharing sexual activity with a man (3-way). I also note that Ksushas most provocative actions are when Ariel is not in the room.

    So here is my question. I see 3 different possibilities here.

    1. This is just a normal and natural way for these Russian girls to act. Getting practically naked in front of a best friends boyfriend the night you meet is cool, and they dont see it as provocative or problematic at all.

    2. Ksusha (or both girls) is testing me to see if I will make a move on her so that she will know if her best friends boyfriend is only out for sex or is true to her and as a way to protect Ariel.

    3. Ksusha is actually interested in me in some form.

    I am curious to know based on what I have said here what you guys think is going on. And please dont just say Id fuck Ksusha.

    For those interested in a reference I included a picture of Ksusha.
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