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  1. #4057
    Quote Originally Posted by Pksimar69  [View Original Post]
    Best choice would be to take bus air from airport go sharks and go back the same way.

    Monday morning in Palace? You and the Barman, in Manhattan maybe a bit better but after 3 pm.
    I agree Sharks is the place to hit if you have 7 hours from the airport. I wouldent mess around with trains and such to save 50 Euros if your on a time crunch. If you have limited time just take a cab go straight to sharks and back to the airport. Not much time difference in time getting from the airport to Sharks, Palace, or Mainhatten. Sharks is always the better bet. Uber is legal in Germany now but not extremely common. Download My Taxi as a backup if an uber is not available.

  2. #4056
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    +1. I could not agree more.

    There are some gents that believe that paying extra ascertain good service or that you "need to" pay extra to those with good optics. They could not be more wrong. Quite to the contrary I find upsellers more often to be horrible performers and/or scam artists. Avoid!

    I am known to be a 60 mnts guy. But I would never "agree to" a 60 mnts session with a new girl (my regulars never ask me this silly question anyway). I will always counter "it's all up to you. If first half hour is good I may extend". The good providers get the message. The scam artists usually leave in a huff.

    The more pushover you are, the more upselling you will experience. It's all up to you.
    I am a 50/30 guy and never do 100/30 or 100/60 for that matter with a girl who requests it in the room. If I am enjoying the session I would request 100/60.

  3. #4055
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    +1. I could not agree more.

    There are some gents that believe that paying extra ascertain good service or that you "need to" pay extra to those with good optics. They could not be more wrong. Quite to the contrary I find upsellers more often to be horrible performers and/or scam artists. Avoid!

    I am known to be a 60 mnts guy. But I would never "agree to" a 60 mnts session with a new girl (my regulars never ask me this silly question anyway). I will always counter "it's all up to you. If first half hour is good I may extend". The good providers get the message. The scam artists usually leave in a huff.

    The more pushover you are, the more upselling you will experience. It's all up to you.
    Upsellers are usually not the most smart, nor the prettiest, nor the highest level. Upselling for kissing usually mean not natural, nor fluent, but robot kissing.

  4. #4054
    Quote Originally Posted by Theo110  [View Original Post]
    I wouldn't mind paying a little extra for "extras" however every time I agree to a 60 minute room or to extras the service is terrible anyway. Its not really about the money its just when a girl starts the upselling alarm bells go off in my head saying that even if I give her the money she is probably going to be terrible.
    +1. I could not agree more.

    There are some gents that believe that paying extra ascertain good service or that you "need to" pay extra to those with good optics. They could not be more wrong. Quite to the contrary I find upsellers more often to be horrible performers and/or scam artists. Avoid!

    I am known to be a 60 mnts guy. But I would never "agree to" a 60 mnts session with a new girl (my regulars never ask me this silly question anyway). I will always counter "it's all up to you. If first half hour is good I may extend". The good providers get the message. The scam artists usually leave in a huff.

    The more pushover you are, the more upselling you will experience. It's all up to you.

  5. #4053
    Quote Originally Posted by JustinRose  [View Original Post]
    In case you had 7 hrs to spend from Monday morning in Frankfurt, approaching from airport, would you choose Palace, Mainhattan or perhaps some other easy Access Place for some half day entertainment?

    I wouldn't like to level the standard below the Mainhattan, which should be basically OK.

    Cheers,

    Justin.
    Best choice would be to take bus air from airport go sharks and go back the same way.

    Monday morning in Palace? You and the Barman, in Manhattan maybe a bit better but after 3 pm.

  6. #4052

    Monday.

    In case you had 7 hrs to spend from Monday morning in Frankfurt, approaching from airport, would you choose Palace, Mainhattan or perhaps some other easy Access Place for some half day entertainment?

    I wouldn't like to level the standard below the Mainhattan, which should be basically OK.

    Cheers,

    Justin.

  7. #4051
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolokia  [View Original Post]
    My friend, please to don't forgetting:

    Fourthly, those who do not want to work but wish to be paid for not working.

    (example): con-artist girl who agree to 100/1 HR before enter the room, but then once in room all she do keep talk to try to "re-negotiate" up to 100/30 m for same service while not providing any actual service. Objective is to annoy you so much with her dishonesty such you consider paying her to just leaving you alone for the eternity.
    Those are not providers, just swindlers posing as providers.

  8. #4050
    Quote Originally Posted by Theo110  [View Original Post]
    ..........I wouldn't mind paying a little extra for "extras" however every time I agree to a 60 minute room or to extras the service is terrible anyway. Its not really about the money its just when a girl starts the upselling alarm bells go off in my head saying that even if I give her the money she is probably going to be terrible. Nothing ruins a room more for me then when a girl tries to sell "erotic massage" aka foreplay.
    Good to read an honest report. I think there are many guys too ashamed to admit they were scammed when paying extra.

  9. #4049
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Girls who work in FKKs can be divided into three groups:

    Firstly, those who provide the required service for the required price (50/30 m, 100/1 hr, 150/1 1/2 hr, etc.).

    Secondly, those who will not work for the required price but only for a higher price.

    Thirdly, those who want to work for a higher price but will accept lower.
    My friend, please to don't forgetting:

    Fourthly, those who do not want to work but wish to be paid for not working.

    (example): con-artist girl who agree to 100/1 HR before enter the room, but then once in room all she do keep talk to try to "re-negotiate" up to 100/30 m for same service while not providing any actual service. Objective is to annoy you so much with her dishonesty such you consider paying her to just leaving you alone for the eternity.

  10. #4048

    Mainhatten Report 6/9.

    Checked into Mainhatten around 11 pm Sunday 6/9. Probably about 30 men and 30 women in the club about even. They left food out until I left at 1 but they never replenished it. Was not very appetizing all I ate was some pudding. Casting in this place is a level below Sharks and Oase. This place seems to be filled with trashy tatted dark skinned Romanians which is the standard for all FKKS. Want to go to a place with the "average standard " for casting this is it. I walked in and the bartender was overwhelmed took 20 minutes to get a soft drink. Got approached immediately by a short brunette with saggy tits, looked kind of young looking. I don't remember her name, lucky for her. She has the look I am into, average to slim body, tanned, brunette, petite. She was totally coked up out of her mind, had a lot of energy and was very friendly. She wanted to go to the room, I said what do you do, she said everything. I said great. I go back to the room I lay on the bed hopeing to get started, instead she starts talking prices. In my mind I'm like great here we go. She offered me Cocaine and Viagra which I politely declined. She then told me that if I wanted anything other than a blowjob with condom and sex with no foreplay of touching of any kind I would need to give her 100 euros for an hour. She then said if I wanted "everything" BBBJ, "erotic massage" kissing it would be 150 for half an hour, 200 for an hour. I said no and left the room. Ended up paying her 50 Euros for 20 minutes of her upselling standard services you get included in the good FKK's. I brought this up to the reception who told me the girls can charge whatever they want and that if I want to have a good time I shouldn't be so cheap. I informed her I would be taking my business to Sharks and left.

    I wouldn't mind paying a little extra for "extras" however every time I agree to a 60 minute room or to extras the service is terrible anyway. Its not really about the money its just when a girl starts the upselling alarm bells go off in my head saying that even if I give her the money she is probably going to be terrible. Nothing ruins a room more for me then when a girl tries to sell "erotic massage" aka foreplay.

  11. #4047
    Quote Originally Posted by Thanos2019  [View Original Post]
    There are 3 groups of people on ISG.

    First group members think 50 is 50 and a girl needs to provide all services for 50. This includes BBBJ and kissing for sure, sex in multiple positions, perhaps even some ball sucking, FIV, fia, and even rimming. They do not like guys who pay extra money for any of the above services and they call such men tourists and suckers and clueless and worse.

    Second group members think 50 is not very much money. Typically members of this group are somewhat affluent or at least they can afford to spend some amount of money in the clubs. These men are willing to pay 100 E or even more for 30 minute sessions to obtain many of the services mentioned above, especially if the girl is pretty. They also look down on members of group 1 and call them cheap Charlie's.

    The third group is not very vocal here but they exist. They think it is best to be flexible. Sometimes these men pay extra money for some services and at other times they are strict in their purchases of services. I fall into group 3 most of the time, and perhaps you do as well.
    Girls who work in FKKs can be divided into three groups:

    Firstly, those who provide the required service for the required price (50/30 m, 100/1 hr, 150/1 1/2 hr, etc.).

    Secondly, those who will not work for the required price but only for a higher price.

    Thirdly, those who want to work for a higher price but will accept lower.

    The ladies in the third group generally provide poor service in spite of how much you pay them. They are all about the money.

    There are guys who pay the ladies in the first group extra and believe that they have gotten better service for more money having never gotten service from them for less.

    The ladies in the second group will generally give good service for more money and I will choose them over and above those in the third group. I try my best to avoid girls in the third group wherever possible.

  12. #4046
    Quote Originally Posted by OneCupOfMe  [View Original Post]
    I am not sure about your comments. I am quite selective about the girls I choose and have no problem saying no to them. But if I like someone and want to go into room with them, I have no problem paying the price they are asking. It is what it is. Expensive or not, if I like it, I just go for it. What I won't do are upsellers and aggressive girls. Does it make me a "sucker", I don't think so. Girls tends to be relax when you pay what they need. Doe sit give me a better experience? Not necessarily. Girls might talk amongst themselves, but they'll still come regardless. In the end, I'm the suckers with the hammer that decides if I agree on that cost.
    It depends. The girl that is charging above club rate, does she sometimes give the same service to others for a lower price? If she does, then you're a sucker.

  13. #4045
    There are 3 groups of people on ISG.

    First group members think 50 is 50 and a girl needs to provide all services for 50. This includes BBBJ and kissing for sure, sex in multiple positions, perhaps even some ball sucking, FIV, fia, and even rimming. They do not like guys who pay extra money for any of the above services and they call such men tourists and suckers and clueless and worse.

    Second group members think 50 is not very much money. Typically members of this group are somewhat affluent or at least they can afford to spend some amount of money in the clubs. These men are willing to pay 100 E or even more for 30 minute sessions to obtain many of the services mentioned above, especially if the girl is pretty. They also look down on members of group 1 and call them cheap Charlie's.

    The third group is not very vocal here but they exist. They think it is best to be flexible. Sometimes these men pay extra money for some services and at other times they are strict in their purchases of services. I fall into group 3 most of the time, and perhaps you do as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by OneCupOfMe  [View Original Post]
    I am not sure about your comments. I am quite selective about the girls I choose and have no problem saying no to them. But if I like someone and want to go into room with them, I have no problem paying the price they are asking. It is what it is. Expensive or not, if I like it, I just go for it. What I won't do are upsellers and aggressive girls. Does it make me a "sucker", I don't think so. Girls tends to be relax when you pay what they need. Doe sit give me a better experience? Not necessarily. Girls might talk amongst themselves, but they'll still come regardless. In the end, I'm the suckers with the hammer that decides if I agree on that cost.

  14. #4044
    I am not sure about your comments. I am quite selective about the girls I choose and have no problem saying no to them. But if I like someone and want to go into room with them, I have no problem paying the price they are asking. It is what it is. Expensive or not, if I like it, I just go for it. What I won't do are upsellers and aggressive girls. Does it make me a "sucker", I don't think so. Girls tends to be relax when you pay what they need. Doe sit give me a better experience? Not necessarily. Girls might talk amongst themselves, but they'll still come regardless. In the end, I'm the suckers with the hammer that decides if I agree on that cost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voyajer1  [View Original Post]
    Words to live by: Never give up on the price. Once that is over, then get on with your business. Remember always, you carry the hammer (EUROS). Once these girls label you a sucker (Paying 2 X, 3 X, 4 X the going rate), its going to stick to you no matter what FKK you go to. Ladies tend to communicate everything about us among each other: Our preferences, our tendencies, what we like to do in the rooms, how often we go to the room, etc. Once they know that you ain't budging and the need for Euros kicks in, they tend to be very coy and provide in a lot of cases very good services. It takes patience. Of course, stay away from the hard headed, hard-core upsellers. It doesn't take long to spot them, because they chase a very specific clientele (Suckers, tourists, etc.), stick together and won't approach you.

  15. #4043
    Quote Originally Posted by Voyajer1  [View Original Post]
    Words to live by: Never give up on the price. Once that is over, then get on with your business. Remember always, you carry the hammer (EUROS). Once these girls label you a sucker (Paying 2 X, 3 X, 4 X the going rate), its going to stick to you no matter what FKK you go to. Ladies tend to communicate everything about us among each other: Our preferences, our tendencies, what we like to do in the rooms, how often we go to the room, etc. Once they know that you ain't budging and the need for Euros kicks in, they tend to be very coy and provide in a lot of cases very good services. It takes patience. Of course, stay away from the hard headed, hard-core upsellers. It doesn't take long to spot them, because they chase a very specific clientele (Suckers, tourists, etc.), stick together and won't approach you.
    I know that is certainly true in Sharks. All the girls know about me and my likes and dislikes. Those who are not interested avoid me. Fortunately they are in the minority. I have not had a bad session since April.

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