Sihanoukville

**Jamesd77** · 11-08-20 05:28

Does anyone know if there's currently any action going on in Sihanoukville (bars or freelance)? I know the Chinese had largely taken over, but have been told many left after a ban on online gambling. Obviously, the pandemic has affected things as well, but I'm curious to know if anyone has been there recently has any up-to-date info.

**Rick Rock** · 07-12-20 07:28

Originally Posted by SouthEaster [View Original Post]

RR, your intel is way out of date. As of 6 months ago (before the shit hit the fan) there were at least half a dozen, probably closer to 10. That said, they were doing little business and asking stupid money, usually. If you were feeling generous and were not too fussy you could get 50 bucks long time. Now that Covid has practically wiped the tourist trade and severely curtailed business of all kinds I suspect we may be back to, well, 2!

So was it is 6 or 10? Names of the bars? Which of the 3 streets in Kampot were they on?

**Kazeu** · 07-12-20 00:27

Originally Posted by Eszpresszo [View Original Post]

This seems to be the "group speak" around here, and it actually deterred me from visiting Cambodia two years ago. I went to Bali instead (big mistake). Since then I have actually met (in the flesh) travelers who have been to Cambodia in the past few years. One was a local acquaintance I hadn't seen in years, but ran into at a party a year ago. The others were a small group of French tourists (actually one young guy traveling THREE cute women) whom I met in Petropolis, Brazil last year. When I mentioned the influx of Chinese into Cambodia and Sihanoukville, they seemed puzzled. The story that the Chinese had taken over didn't seem to resonate with them. They hadn't noticed any such thing and strongly recommended I visit Cambodia.

So this begs the question: where did this all start? In the news media, obviously and not the most credible news media, either. Al Geezer? Please. But, these ideas get perpetuated. Not from people on the ground. Just from people on the internet. And those are the people I have never met, and have no reason to believe.

I'm willing to bet that your aquantences have only been to Cambodia once. And thus do not have a point of reference to compare it to. Anyone who has been to Cambodia multiple times over the course of the past 5 years would have noticed the difference. There is definitely an undercurrent of animosity toward the Chinese among the Cambodians that I know. The Chinese take over is not imaginary. Many people have gotten rich from the foreign "investment" along with bribes. But this is much the case of the rich getting richer and the poor being left behind.

For some context. I've been to Cambodia probably 5 tilmes over the past 10 years or so and most recently last year.

**Eszpresszo** · 07-11-20 22:48

Originally Posted by Berrys66 [View Original Post]

https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes...210128003.html

Chinese are taking over the town with 100's of casinos and rents the locals can no longer afford. Dirty money from China criminals is flooding into town so its mongering days is on the edge.

This seems to be the "group speak" around here, and it actually deterred me from visiting Cambodia two years ago. I went to Bali instead (big mistake). Since then I have actually met (in the flesh) travelers who have been to Cambodia in the past few years. One was a local acquaintance I hadn't seen in years, but ran into at a party a year ago. The others were a small group of French tourists (actually one young guy traveling THREE cute women) whom I met in Petropolis, Brazil last year. When I mentioned the influx of Chinese into Cambodia and Sihanoukville, they seemed puzzled. The story that the Chinese had taken over didn't seem to resonate with them. They hadn't noticed any such thing and strongly recommended I visit Cambodia.

So this begs the question: where did this all start? In the news media, obviously and not the most credible news media, either. Al Geezer? Please. But, these ideas get perpetuated. Not from people on the ground. Just from people on the internet. And those are the people I have never met, and have no reason to believe.

**SouthEaster** · 07-11-20 21:07

RR, your intel is way out of date. As of 6 months ago (before the shit hit the fan) there were at least half a dozen, probably closer to 10. That said, they were doing little business and asking stupid money, usually. If you were feeling generous and were not too fussy you could get 50 bucks long time. Now that Covid has practically wiped the tourist trade and severely curtailed business of all kinds I suspect we may be back to, well, 2!

**Rick Rock** · 07-11-20 07:51

Originally Posted by IAmTrout [View Original Post]

Sex is basically in dilapidated buildings without aircon or a shower.

Sounds like a lot of Europe.

**Rick Rock** · 07-11-20 07:49

Originally Posted by AskeAske [View Original Post]

Best playground is Phnom Penh and Kampot. After Sihanoukville become Chinatown a Lot of girly bars opened in Kampot.

A lot? I've heard of two. And they're both closed already.

**Rick Rock** · 07-11-20 07:48

Originally Posted by BJtemp [View Original Post]

If westerners are leaving Sihanoukville due to influx of the Chinese, where are they going to play now?

They're not leaving. Leaving is present tense.

They already left years back. Few of them were "players. ".

You're mostly talking about barefoot hippies and pensioners at the end of life. Most of them were in Sihanoukville for the $2 a night fan rooms and 50 cent beers. So they just moved to other cities with cheap beers and available shelter. That's like Kampot, Kep, Koh Kong.

Unless you're talking about the Russian criminal element. But their departure was further back.

**AskeAske** · 07-01-20 15:06

Originally Posted by BJtemp [View Original Post]

If westerners are leaving Sihanoukville due to influx of the Chinese, where are they going to play now?

Best playground is Phnom Penh and Kampot. After Sihanoukville become Chinatown a Lot of girly bars opened in Kampot.

**BJtemp** · 07-01-20 12:59

If westerners are leaving Sihanoukville due to influx of the Chinese, where are they going to play now?

**Finkel60** · 01-08-20 19:15

First, why visit China shithole place when travel to Cambodia, second, sextaxes today is higher than Europe course idiots accept and pay.

**Berrys66** · 12-03-19 12:59

https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes...210128003.html

Chinese are taking over the town with 100's of casinos and rents the locals can no longer afford. Dirty money from China criminals is flooding into town so its mongering days is on the edge.

**Malibu21** · 11-21-19 07:23

Wonder how much is the long time rate in Blue Mountain or other place, plan to bring the girl to Otres beach for a few days.

**Achmmc** · 09-09-19 08:19

Wonder how this is going to sort out.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se...ists-stay-home

**Malibu21** · 08-08-19 05:45

Originally Posted by IAmTrout [View Original Post]

Blue Mountain:

Chinese girls towards the entrance are all $50.
Towards the back of the road are Vietnamese and Khmer. The ST standard rate is now $30. They won't budge.

It is a 50% inflation compare to $20 Vietnam 1 year ago.

A Paradise lost.

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