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  1. #14159
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Pessimist's post offers some perspective. Financial priorities matter: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2325359.

    Income is only one variable. All things being equal, a single, childless bachelors who are approaching retirement can spend more money on luxuries such as mongering. Stage of life also matters too (I. E. Whether one will soon receive an inheritance from parents). I recently heard of one monger in his 50's who is dumping large sums into the coffers of his FKK wife. This monger in his 50's reportedly told his friends "I can sell my flat, because I do not have any kids to hand it down to. And I can't take that money with me". The implication is that he could blow through his money and live life to the fullest..
    When I was in b-school, I interviewed with a management consultancy. The case study involved what should a credit card company do? It turned out that the stable income earning, high credit score customers who pay their balance every month were money losing for the company, as they never roll any balances, and in fact the card issuer ends up providing free credit to them for a large portion of the year (from the time of their purchases to the time of their payment every month). At the same time, the bad Fico score, low income customers who have massive balances on several cards are also not good customers, as there is a real risk that many of them may default and collection is a huge problem. The best customers for the banks and card issuers were the middle range, OK income customers with expensive habits who perpetually have large balances, are financially not truly savvy even if they think they are, paying at 16% rate forever and not being smart enough to realize they are being fleeced.

    One girl I was banging for payment and gifts (not an FKK girl) once asked me how much money I make or what's my net worth or something along those lines. I asked "why do you care, the only thing that should matter to you is if I have enough money to give your few hundred dollar payment". She reconsidered that statement and agreed with me.

    From the perspective of any WG, the best customers are not the high net, fiscally prudent men. They are the equivalent of the high income customers of bank who always pay off the balance at the end of the month. The best customers for WGs are the men who make a hundred to 120 grand a year but spend 40 of that on prostitutes and clubs. If the WG snares enough such men as her regulars, her own career in the club is made.

  2. #14158
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    I cannot agree that LR has good casting optically, it is OK, only good point I can say about LR is amazing service for just 50 euro 30 min session and girls being more younger than other clubs. But optically, it is OK level, no stunner at LR.
    In your opinion, who is the best looking girl at Living Room? And what number would you give her for optics and for service?

  3. #14157
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    For girls maybe GT is a promotion, but I am not so sure. For guys it is a demotion having to go there nowadays.
    I only went to GT once in January 2017. When I went on the FKK tour service trip. The guide and other guests hyped the place up big time. "They said Its the best club, blah blah". I did find one girl and have one great session. However the place was packed to the rafters with men. There was not any place to sit or enjoy anything. Most of the girls were heavily tatted, tons of makeup, plastic surgery everywhere. It made me uncomfortable. I Wanted out. The guide kept going back multiple times during that trip instead I just decided to stay in the hotel room, sleep in, and meet them later at another club. I thought maybe my experience was based on just a very busy day at the club but from other reports my experience seems typical.

  4. #14156
    Quote Originally Posted by Theo110  [View Original Post]
    (before being promoted to Goldentime).
    For girls maybe GT is a promotion, but I am not so sure. For guys it is a demotion having to go there nowadays.

  5. #14155
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Theo:

    You give LR and Oase both an 8 for casting. And it seems this is not including service as you have a separate category for that. But I am guessing there is the usual aprox 8-10 lookers at Oase. Which is fair enough to give it an 8. Has LR really got the same amount of lookers?

    Also you give Aca Gold the same score as you give Sharks. Both a 7! Now I truly wonder which Acapulco V girls have gone over? And who has not gone up to Great Palace. I assume Hannah and her group is still at Aca G. Maybe Lucy? If both of them are there, it is a big bonus, but there should be more numerous girls at such high quality to have that score. I recall my only Aca Gold visit 18 months ago, I gave it a complete no for lineup score in my review. So the lineup better have changed drastically to be on Sharks level!
    I cannot agree that LR has good casting optically, it is OK, only good point I can say about LR is amazing service for just 50 euro 30 min session and girls being more younger than other clubs. But optically, it is OK level, no stunner at LR.

    Oase is the one I am not sure about. Due to extreme upsell, I only went once to Oase, but come to think about it, there were some stunner level girl optically like at palace and Artemis. Only few, but I saw and went with them in Oase, so maybe Oase is like palace and Artemis where there are few stunners in line up? Most are plastic at Artemis, but underneath them and between, there are real stunners in both palace and Artemis.

  6. #14154
    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    It's very interesting that people who say prostitution is bad for women are either the women who never worked as a prostitute (and thus actually understood the benefits of prostitution) or the men who has something to gain by saying that (eg some politicians or lawyers). Of course there are some exceptions that prove the norm.
    For me, better for women to never try this bad job, but some are ready for anything for money, you can see some changing for money, and guys need sex, even in hypocrite religion.

  7. #14153
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    Salaam zusammen,

    Is prostitution the only profession where experience is a liability rather than an advantage? Be honest.
    It is traumatizing for some or fair to say most girls. I mean girls in FKK take about around 1000 different strangers penis each year, every year.

    But I have came across some FKK girls who love being prostitute in FKK environment and one of them claim to tell her future husband about her job in FKK because it is such a big part of her life she said.

    As a client side as a monger, it is priceless experience that echoes in eternity, which also secure us good sex life we men all dreamed of when we were young teen. Well that part of lustful dream came true for us mongers.

    However, not only for girls, FKK prostitution environment mess with mongers head too because things that supposed to be limited experience become unlimited experience for us mongers as long as you pay entrance and fee per 30 min, then sky is the limit. Personally, I am loving such experiences.

  8. #14152
    Salaam zusammen,

    Is prostitution the only profession where experience is a liability rather than an advantage? Be honest.

  9. #14151
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Theo:

    You give LR and Oase both an 8 for casting. And it seems this is not including service as you have a separate category for that. But I am guessing there is the usual aprox 8-10 lookers at Oase. Which is fair enough to give it an 8. Has LR really got the same amount of lookers?

    Also you give Aca Gold the same score as you give Sharks. Both a 7! Now I truly wonder which Acapulco V girls have gone over? And who has not gone up to Great Palace. I assume Hannah and her group is still at Aca G. Maybe Lucy? If both of them are there, it is a big bonus, but there should be more numerous girls at such high quality to have that score. I recall my only Aca Gold visit 18 months ago, I gave it a complete no for lineup score in my review. So the lineup better have changed drastically to be on Sharks level!
    Living Room had several lookers when I was there on the Saturday Night. Very good quality looks wise probably the best of my trip. ACA Gold had more girls there than usual currently with the Velbert location closed. ACA usually has about 30 percent worth it for me to room with, this last trip it was so packed every time I saw one that was up to my standard I just took her to the room. At one point that day every girl in the place was getting fucked except for 3.

    Also my opinion may be skewed differently based on my taste which is I like the younger non tatted, non plastic, petite, innocent, girl next door looking girls. The girls who just start and have this look tend to work at ACA Gold, Oase, and living room, (before being promoted to Goldentime).

    When I first started going to FKKs Sharks was my favorite but not so many girls there anymore. Also since I have been there so many times (more than 20 since Jan 2017) I keep seeing the same girls and it may be boring me.

    Anyone have any clubs I didn't visit where the casting skews to my taste as stated above?

  10. #14150
    Bfsie. I totally agree with your para re character For me what you suggest works 100%. I choose according to their character, simply niceness or kindness. If a girl radiates these her optics are radically improved (although of course a size 40 won't turn into my preferred 30/32, German sizing).

    I do think the job can be taught, but they have to have the right disposition/character first. And if put in a club with the wrong cultural norms even a good girl can fall into bad ways

    Cheers

  11. #14149
    WG's service is not a matter of WG's cleverness or dumbness. WG's service, IMHO, is mainly a WG's character issue, not a WG's intelligence issue, I. E. How good a WG's service is is mainly determined by the WG's character, not by her intelligence or her other factors. We here discussed in the past week about whether WG's service is teachable and changeable. I think that most WG's services are almost unteachable and unchangeable after their initial several-week internship in the business because their characters are almost unchangeable at their ages. Some WG's service may be YMMV, but this is because the character of very small percentage of WGs is YMMV, I. E. They treat people differently by their character.

    I think the implication of my view is:

    1) If one fellow monger or friend TRUTHFULLY recommends a WG for her good service and you know what is his standard of defining WG's good service, you most likely will get good service from this WG if you have at most the same standard as this monger or friend. Even if her service is YMMV, her YMMV service would be within the margin of her good service.

    2) If you have good judgement about women' characters in real life, just apply this skill of your judgement to the WGs with the emphasis on their kindness and niceness as first screening of your evaluation of WGs, because girl's character won't change that much after she becomes a prostitute.

  12. #14148
    Quote Originally Posted by Pksimar69  [View Original Post]
    Yes they are clever and smart but this has nothing to do with behave and attitude. I think FKK girls are either very smart or very dumb there is no between. But regarding behave and attitude which is something you learn among education they are far from that.
    My meaning: most of WGs are not really clever, only a very few are smart. If they were more, most would get better business, smart girls are usually busier, like Kate at GT.

  13. #14147
    Theo:

    You give LR and Oase both an 8 for casting. And it seems this is not including service as you have a separate category for that. But I am guessing there is the usual aprox 8-10 lookers at Oase. Which is fair enough to give it an 8. Has LR really got the same amount of lookers?

    Also you give Aca Gold the same score as you give Sharks. Both a 7! Now I truly wonder which Acapulco V girls have gone over? And who has not gone up to Great Palace. I assume Hannah and her group is still at Aca G. Maybe Lucy? If both of them are there, it is a big bonus, but there should be more numerous girls at such high quality to have that score. I recall my only Aca Gold visit 18 months ago, I gave it a complete no for lineup score in my review. So the lineup better have changed drastically to be on Sharks level!

  14. #14146
    Quote Originally Posted by JunkJock  [View Original Post]
    I had my first time to Artemis last night, after my previous weekend in Duss. Will leave a review in the Artemis thread, but you're absolutely right. Some better talent "optically". The service didn't suffer either, it was just more expensive.
    Trend nowadays are 100 euro for 30 min full package with BBBJ, DFK and DATY and condom fuck in palace. As for Artemis I have not been there since 2015, but I guess line up got better again with some good optic girls back again? Artemis was the place to be in 2010 till 2014 when there always were new stunner level beauty each time I visit, which was nice feeling to know that I was going to fuck new young beauty every time I visited that club back then.

    As for optic, that is what I noticed as well going around NRW 4 years, Hessen 4 years and Berlin 6 years, absolute stunner optically are in palace and Artemis with bit of digging based on my experience, there usually are one to three stunners, max five back in golden days, but for me two stunners in line per day is enough, more is better, but I cannot complain because golden days are over, though according to you, it maybe back again considering top girls go where they can upsell their beauty. I will be back in Artemis in late summer and I cannot wait how that clubs line up changed. Hopefully.

  15. #14145

    Visited Artemis last night. You're right.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    NRW clubs tend to provide better service than Hessen or Berlin clubs, but yeah, I also noticed line up being rather mediocre with almost no stunner in line up, some day I got lucky, but optically NRW is lower than Frankfurt or Berlin clubs.

    Oddly, best girls I had optically in past 10 years in German FKK were all in palace and also Artemis. Both are near city upsell clubs, so I guess most beautiful girls go where the money is.
    I had my first time to Artemis last night, after my previous weekend in Duss. Will leave a review in the Artemis thread, but you're absolutely right. Some better talent "optically". The service didn't suffer either, it was just more expensive.

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