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  1. #11264
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Canabbis took about over 40 years to legalize in USA and it is happening slowly now, so prostitution got some hopes.

    Only cons is that with all these movement of me too, feminists getting stronger etc, prostitution may have long way to go.

    As long as there are countries with downside of economy, there always will be prostitution with legalize format, I just hope it is as good as in Germany or as reported in Brazil format where both clients and girls are both reasonably safe.
    I think grassroots movement toward prostitution legalisation in the US is gaining popularity each year (or at least not completely losing its ground), but the process is painstakingly slow. Another example: according to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce the divorce was relatively recently legalized in countries such as Italy (1970), Portugal (1975), Brazil (1977), Spain (1981), Argentina (1987), Paraguay (1991), Colombia (1991), Andorra (1995), Ireland (1996), Chile (2004) and Malta (2011). WTF?! Perhaps another 50 years to see one of the states besides Nevada legalizing P4P. Not in my lifetime.

  2. #11263
    Quote Originally Posted by Jnpr30  [View Original Post]
    One more thing given the location across the pond, the only low income immigrants who are available are from LatAm and Central America, and if you are looking for that Caucasian look there is no such supply. And with Trump, not even the Latinos are coming/allowed to come. Just have to hope that those corn fed booties from Nebraska and Oklahoma will become so poor and wanting to sell themselves for a 50. Not gonna happen, not in the numbers we want.
    I honestly believe there are enough women living below the poverty level in the US now that a large variety could be found in clubs if prostitution was legalized. There are plenty of young women working minimum wage jobs at McDonald's, Burger King, Hooters, etc. That I'm sure would jump at the possibility of earning $100 per hour if it was legal. It would, however, cause a huge negative impact on strip clubs. A Hungarian lady friend of mine who worked as a stripper in Italy always said, "there is no money working as a stripper in countries where prostitution is legalized".

  3. #11262

    Old upselling.

    https://youtu.be/eIlmbUbiGxM

    Old but still so funny. And not that much has changed.

  4. #11261
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Yes, this is it I think. Something catastrophic shaking America to its very core would have to occur in order for the American people to lighten up and open the door to legalized prostitution nationwide. Not likely to pass in my lifetime. But still, I know that I lived during one of the world's golden ages of prostitution. Maybe the best ever for men with the means to zip around the globe via air travel.
    Canabbis took about over 40 years to legalize in USA and it is happening slowly now, so prostitution got some hopes.

    Only cons is that with all these movement of me too, feminists getting stronger etc, prostitution may have long way to go.

    As long as there are countries with downside of economy, there always will be prostitution with legalize format, I just hope it is as good as in Germany or as reported in Brazil format where both clients and girls are both reasonably safe.

  5. #11260
    Agree. Although there may be interesting times ahead. As a robotic specialist, I can see that pretty interesting female looking robots may become available in about 20-25 years (my guess). So those might be also very interesting times. Barely in my lifetime though. I don't think if I am 75+ I will care about this stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Yes, this is it I think. Something catastrophic shaking America to its very core would have to occur in order for the American people to lighten up and open the door to legalized prostitution nationwide. Not likely to pass in my lifetime. But still, I know that I lived during one of the world's golden ages of prostitution. Maybe the best ever for men with the means to zip around the globe via air travel.

  6. #11259
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Yes, this is it I think. Something catastrophic shaking America to its very core would have to occur in order for the American people to lighten up and open the door to legalized prostitution nationwide. Not likely to pass in my lifetime. But still, I know that I lived during one of the world's golden ages of prostitution. Maybe the best ever for men with the means to zip around the globe via air travel.
    I think it could catch on like legalized marijuana. First a couple more locations, maybe Portland, Seatle, Atlantic City. Then once the revenue starts being realized others will follow. I picked random cities that are known for leaning forward on liberal concepts that currently have robust illegal sex trades.

    I think that the first step in the process is to identify how prevalent illegal prostitution is in a given area and then marketing the fact that legalized controlled prostitution is safer for the WGs and the Johns. Implementing required safety briefings, health checks, onsite security, controls for illegal drugs, etc. Are all methods used in other countries that have drastically reduced transmission of diseases and violent crimes against those involved as providers or clients.

  7. #11258
    I completely agree with your skepticism that FKK clubs will come into existence in USA in my lifetime. Pistons says 30 years. Who knows. That is so far away and not in my mongering lifetime, that is for sure.

    Sugar daddy sites are a hit and miss. First, membership costs $70 or $80 a month, and some sites charge per message which can also run up into big amounts if you are talking to multiple girls. Many girls can be flaky, take time to respond, and are less attractive in person than in their photos. You have to pay for the hotel in addition to the allowance. Some girls do per meet allowance but many don't and expect an ongoing allowance. Per meet allowance is nothing more than money for sex and then you are not on any safer ground as far as LE is concerned to save their own skin, the sugar daddy sites actually discourage per meet allowance. Skill sets vary some may give BBBJ, some give bad BJ because they are just not skilled, some may allow DFK and DATY and some might not everything is negotiable. And you can't do 3 some, public sex, and ofcourse can't fuck 6 girls one after other for 8 days in a row as Yama Yama does.

    I think sugar daddy sites fill a niche but if you are addicted to FKK, USA has no ready substitute.

    One more thing given the location across the pond, the only low income immigrants who are available are from LatAm and Central America, and if you are looking for that Caucasian look there is no such supply. And with Trump, not even the Latinos are coming/allowed to come. Just have to hope that those corn fed booties from Nebraska and Oklahoma will become so poor and wanting to sell themselves for a 50. Not gonna happen, not in the numbers we want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    Very interesting stories. I am sure all of these USA Ladies can't wait for there to be an FKK in the USA where they can live where they work, walk around naked the entire time, and get $50, $100, $150 or so a session, fuck several different guys during the long shift, and hope the guy she just fucked says good things about her to the other guys on the floor.

    I can't believe this was really a topic. The German FKKs work due to a convergence of low-income women from Eastern Europe who face a weak local market for their services in their home countries, and the close proximity of Germany and its acceptance of immigrant labor. It works well in Germany and the surrounding countries, but doesn't export well.

    North America and other parts of Western Europe have a fine system of commercial sex. It is just expensive. Guys who can't, or won't, pay the market prices are certainly free to travel to much lower cost places, including Germany and South America. Many US guys on the east coast choose to travel to Montreal and a lot of Californians do Tijuana. A lot of guys do a little of everything. They occasionally monger in their home markets, and certainly look forward to business and vacation trips to lower cost locales.

    Really folks, what would be the advantage of big FKKs in the USA? Nothing is stopping a USA Guy from answering the multitudes of sex worker ads and sugar baby in the USA Reasonable screening and research can assure both parties that law enforcement is not involved. Does the government really need to approve a great big facility and give a stamp of approval for sex? Should the USA Government really allow female temporary workers from very low-income countries to work at the hypothetical US FKKs to keep the prices low so that a low-income guy can get affordable sex without traveling?

    I just can't get myself to think that way.

  8. #11257
    Quote Originally Posted by BaltiX  [View Original Post]
    You can find plenty of German working girls if you know where to look.

    In Canada prostitution still flourishes in parts of Canada (Ontario and Quebec). Denmark is the only Scandinavia country with an active sex scene.
    I don't know. There is prostitution all over Scandinavia, but most of the women only take local men. Except on Iceland I think where it is a bit out of hand. Actually more prostitution across Scandinavia now than it was before that Nordic model arrived.

  9. #11256
    Quote Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus  [View Original Post]
    One is tempted to say Germany learned the hard way where ideology and lack of tolerance leads too.
    Yes, this is it I think. Something catastrophic shaking America to its very core would have to occur in order for the American people to lighten up and open the door to legalized prostitution nationwide. Not likely to pass in my lifetime. But still, I know that I lived during one of the world's golden ages of prostitution. Maybe the best ever for men with the means to zip around the globe via air travel.

  10. #11255

    1947 US Army propaganda on hookers (funny)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-q30cMxRgQ

    Be warned of loose women. There are also moral diseases. May God bless all of our accursed kind and our sin (snicker).

  11. #11254
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Were the WGs who were making "2 K or more per day" still happy to 50 EUR /30 min sessions? 2 K would be lots of sessions, lots of extras, or very generous tipping.
    2 k / day wouldn't be 50 sessions only. That's a combination of long bookings and extras plus standard 50 rooms with good service.

  12. #11253
    You can find plenty of German working girls if you know where to look.

    Quote Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus  [View Original Post]
    Polyamorist may have hit the nail on the head. The US seems to me to be a federation of many tribes barracking whether sports teams, political parties and especially labels like rig / left anti and pro life etc. This is also very shrill and many have a strong tendency to get the state involved to further whatever cause they have by laws. And to that a large dollop of puritanism, denial and hypocrisy. And this is probably the key factor, irrational ideological tribalism. Yet that (eventually) gives way to the real idol of the USA, money and greed. Wall Street and Washington is the real story. So is the rust belt of offshoring for a quick labor cost arbitrage play. The growth in casinos and gambling are a case in point. Or the utterly destructive short term oil wildcatters that have more or less destroyed the Dakotas and other parts of the country with highly toxic chemical or even radioactive isotopes. They privatize the hoped for oil profits and socialize the pollution. This actually screwed up those states land for short term cash donations etc. Paper. Rock. Scissors. Laws, Ideology and Money. Money controls laws and trumps in the end. But yeah, Takedown is right, P4P prolly not in our mongering lifetime. Religious nut jobs and ignorance is politically too powerful..
    In Canada prostitution still flourishes in parts of Canada (Ontario and Quebec). Denmark is the only Scandinavia country with an active sex scene.

  13. #11252
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    Good for you Sybarite, but can you remember being 20 years old and finding it hard to find a date in college. What were all the beautiful girls doing? Fucking fifty years olds. Why would they bother with a brokeass 20-year old when they could get $500-1000 for a day with an experienced guy.
    On a Saturday night in just about any major city in the world, one can go out and see 20 year olds girls flirting with (and presumably fucking) broke ass 20 year old guys. To make money with a 50 year old, that requires maybe one night a week of effort and maybe a few text messages during the week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sybarite2006  [View Original Post]
    I signed up with a sugar daddy website as I heard its a big thing I the States. Within hours of signing up I was getting numbers of beautiful college girls who were willing to be my 'companion' for an evening or the weekend. I decided to go with one girl, an art student in San Francisco, about 20, a 8 by FKK standards, for 300's for the evening.

    After drinking we fucked, including BBBJ and anal, DFK and then had sushi in bed. The girl slept in my bed and left early in the morning. All for 300 dollars.
    Thats better price than German FKK! People here have reported that those sugar daddy sites have been infiltrated by veteran WGs, but I can't imagine a veteran WG that knows the market rates would charge such a lower price.

    The widely accepted definition for sugar babe that I have always heard is a girl that sleeps with only a few sugar daddies at any one time. Her price may be $1000 a night, but it is not offered to everyone. She's looking for networking opportunities as well. So in your case, your art college sugar babe may have been looking for someone who is influential in the world of art.

  14. #11251
    Quote Originally Posted by RogueNation  [View Original Post]
    It is. That were times (15 years ago) when there were few clubs in Germany, 50 EUR were still worth something and when average income in Poland, Czech and Hungary was a lot lower than now. So girls came to Atlantis and German FKKs. And German girls were still seeing it as a good income. Economy was roaring, many guys spent a lot of money on girls. Many girls were making 2 k or more per day.
    Were the WGs who were making "2 K or more per day" still happy to 50 EUR /30 min sessions? 2 K would be lots of sessions, lots of extras, or very generous tipping.

    "2 K per day" in 2003 is probably more than what top WGs make in 2018 both in nominal and real terms (adjusted for inflation 2,544.27). So if true, customers on average paid better. There were more whales in 2003.

    The idea that mongers paid better in the past is echoed by two German WGs I spoke to recently. One is a MILF who was actually active in 2003. She knows first-hand how good customers were back then. However, we can also say that the reason she was paid better in 2003 was due to her being younger and prettier. The other WG is mid-20's and above-average in terms of popularity, but she tells me her mother was a WG and she grew up knowing other WGs.

  15. #11250
    Quote Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus  [View Original Post]
    As for the best balance (development, laws, safety) Germany, Netherlands, Japan are good. Spain too. Thailand OK but has a bit too much crony capitalism IMHO. Most of the Scandinavian countries are good provide you don't do P4 P. Italy is also OK but is currently sexually repressive. Our lot needs to keep our money and tax planning international like corporations but also our lifestyle and sexual expression to countries that respect poeples' freedom of operation.
    I would involve some Scandinavian nations in those nations you mentioned too, taxes are too much, but I do see hope in their ideal, though it does not work as their ideal itself, but pragmatic practical organization and implementation can be figured out by Germany and Japan, who are good at implementing ideas into reality and keep revising it to better realistic format with promptness.

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