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  1. #11501
    Sirioja You are right. She asked lots of guys for big money. I used to tease her about her tactics to enslave guys, and we had a lot of fun chatting.

  2. #11500
    McAdonis. I am afraid I almost never consider a working girl as a friend. And certainly not Betty. Nor Damaris for whom I still have a soft spot, but who pushed her luck too far. A friend would be someone I trusted to help me if I had a serious problem. Maybe in all my mongering career there were under half a dozen girls who came within this category. I never forget that in clubs it is a business relationship, however much fun it may be to play the "illusion" game.

    I am sure you are right about Evita. The best workers know the key to big money is to pretend (or even believe) they are friends to clients. I avoided her as my spider sense told me she was not genuine for me (just my gut reaction: not knocking any guys who were clients). Other girls have kept me as a regular customer as they were able to make me think they genuinely liked me.

    My current Queen is on probation. She stayed in touch through six months in romania and has now returned to Dortmund. We shall see how this story goes.

    Hope that answers. Just impressions not tablets of stone

    Cheers.

  3. #11499
    Quote Originally Posted by Ortos  [View Original Post]
    You do realise that there is a risk your family will be separated at the border, don't you?
    What Family? Real, confirmed monger, standing up and fully erect!

  4. #11498
    I was in the club a couple of times during the period when Evita had put on a little weight and I think I even mentioned her weight issue in a report I wrote here — however, I don't think I would have characterized it "considerable amount of kilos". Also, when I mentioned her weight in my report, I got a lot of pushback from her fans here. Not to mention, I did not see any drop off in the demand for her services from my anecdotal observation and she seemed to be rejecting just as manny people back then as she did when she had not put on the considerable amount of kilos. Her hold on her Asian base never seemed to waver, weight or no weight.

  5. #11497
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    I have occasionally dropped regular girls after a couple of years, not because of the (inevitable) weight increase or other physical change but because of change in their behaviour (or maybe my changing views). Once I find a girl I will stick with her regardless of physical change (within reason). BTW I see you remember my Betty posts better than I do LOL.
    Optimist, I will amend my original statement: It is hard to "fire" your friends if they have never wronged you. If they betray you, steal from you, or take you for granted, then firing your friends becomes quite easy. So yes, it was easy for you to fire Betty, but at that point at which you gave Betty her walking papers, did you still truly consider her a friend?

    Evita from Sharks might be an apt case study. She was known to go above and beyond and befriend many of her regulars. At one point, she gained a considerable amount of kilos. I suspect a small percentage of her regulars did abandon her immediately. And I suspect a few also accepted her new body. But I suspect a vast majority of her regulars were trying to devise a way to break things off with her, but didn't quite have the heart to do it. Fortunately for her, she was able to lose most if not all of the weight, so it became a moot point. Had Evita been less friendly, I am sure there would have been a bigger fall out her business.

  6. #11496
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    The funniest is one member who liked to write about me and my girls, wrote she asked me 30 000 because I asked her for AO sex. Had anybody paid 30.000 to have AO sex?
    Salaam Monsieur-ioja. I think she meant that you had AO sex with her 20 years ago and she is now faced with college fees. A perfectly reasonable request under the circumstances.

    Another possibility is that this was Demi Moore slumming it.

    Another possibility is that she is Turkish. You thought she was asking for 30,000 euros, but she was actually asking for 30,000 Turkish lira, or about five bucks. Only a cheap charlie would refuse to give a girl five bucks.

  7. #11495

    It's called "Tit-for-Tat"

    Quote Originally Posted by JavaMan  [View Original Post]
    . I also have a friend who lives near Frankfurt. (We're from Amerika, hope you won't hold that against us. LOL)
    You do realise that there is a risk your family will be separated at the border, don't you?

  8. #11494
    Quote Originally Posted by IncognitoInt  [View Original Post]
    Greetings! 3. I'll post in the travel section, but I'd prefer to visit the FKK with another monger for safety reasons, as well as to swap stories and party. I'm new to the region.
    My first trip to Germany also. I'll be in Frankfurt during your stay. I also have a friend who lives near Frankfurt. (We're from Amerika, hope you won't hold that against us. LOL) You'll have to subscribe in order to PM, so we can coordinate.

  9. #11493
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    McA. You are right. I have occasionally dropped regular girls after a couple of years, not because of the (inevitable) weight increase or other physical change but because of change in their behaviour (or maybe my changing views). Once I find a girl I will stick with her regardless of physical change (within reason). BTW I see you remember my Betty posts better than I do LOL.

    As for the 30,000 story. The girl has a different version, but I will not share it as it is only her version and I feel, as Sirioja suggests, it is not appropriate to gossip about another ISG member. The key point is, yes, Sirioja says he was asked for 30,000 and unsurprisingly it changed his mood. The same girl asked me for over a year for money, and finally for 5000, as a gift. However, I still continued to go to a room with her occasionally for an half hour, and she used regularly to invite me to sit and chat (couch time) with her for maybe half hour or an hour (always it was me who cut it short so she could earn money from customers). Her money request did not change the mood as we were not playing the "illusion" game, and my refusal seemed to lead to respect from her.

    With at least four girls (over a 16 year period) I was playing the "illusion" game and unskillfull requests for money led to me terminating the business relationships. With another two girls I offered money without being asked, and they subsequently asked for further money. With a couple of other girls they refunded me significant parts of my room expenditure. So, even with one charmless ageing monger, there is no set pattern.

    When I talk about money I am not referring to marginal tips or very cheap gifts. I am uncomfortable writing about myself but thought it might give a hint of the rich variety of things which happen. I know some members have much more amazing stories than I.
    So, I'm not the only one Oana asked money, not by whatsapp for me, eyes in eyes in the room. I think I had about 5/6 rooms with her on March and April 2014, so she knew my behavior with her, not a girl for illusion, but she was playful and funny, but she really didn't deserve 30.000 or even 5000 if I wanted AO sex, same like for kissing I will never pay extra for AO, it can happen during fluent sex, or not. For sure I stopped after this room with her, I can't go with girls I don't trust, even she tried to attract me for months, but when Isabella arrived at World and Madi I discovered on May, Oana was not on same level for me.

    I never need to gossip about other guys when I'm with a girl, I have better to enjoy with her, but a guy with my behavior with girls has all the prettiest for regulars, at Globe where I m nothing for money, girls who know me come to me, even the Globe full busy superstar who is much more top class than was Oana.

  10. #11492
    McA. You are right. I have occasionally dropped regular girls after a couple of years, not because of the (inevitable) weight increase or other physical change but because of change in their behaviour (or maybe my changing views). Once I find a girl I will stick with her regardless of physical change (within reason). BTW I see you remember my Betty posts better than I do LOL.

    As for the 30,000 story. The girl has a different version, but I will not share it as it is only her version and I feel, as Sirioja suggests, it is not appropriate to gossip about another ISG member. The key point is, yes, Sirioja says he was asked for 30,000 and unsurprisingly it changed his mood. The same girl asked me for over a year for money, and finally for 5000, as a gift. However, I still continued to go to a room with her occasionally for an half hour, and she used regularly to invite me to sit and chat (couch time) with her for maybe half hour or an hour (always it was me who cut it short so she could earn money from customers). Her money request did not change the mood as we were not playing the "illusion" game, and my refusal seemed to lead to respect from her.

    With at least four girls (over a 16 year period) I was playing the "illusion" game and unskillfull requests for money led to me terminating the business relationships. With another two girls I offered money without being asked, and they subsequently asked for further money. With a couple of other girls they refunded me significant parts of my room expenditure. So, even with one charmless ageing monger, there is no set pattern.

    When I talk about money I am not referring to marginal tips or very cheap gifts. I am uncomfortable writing about myself but thought it might give a hint of the rich variety of things which happen. I know some members have much more amazing stories than I.

  11. #11491

    First visit to Germany

    Greetings!

    I'm a monger from way back, but haven't been active in over ten years so started a new profile for my upcoming travels to Germany. Hoping you guys can help me out. My plan is to visit an FKK, as well as use an escort to my hotel. Not really interested in RLD action.

    Questions:

    1. If I could only visit one FKK and my preference is for thin and young, what's my best bet on a Monday / Tuesday evening in the Frankfurt area?

    2. I know escorts can be hit or miss, but are there any recommendations for independent ladies or reputable agencies?

    3. I'll post in the travel section, but I'd prefer to visit the FKK with another monger for safety reasons, as well as to swap stories and party. I'm new to the region.

    Thanks in advance. If you prefer PM, let me know and I'll spring for the membership. I've read through the forums but as my trip draws near I wanted to get as much updated info and advice as possible.

    Thanks in advance!

  12. #11490
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    I for one won't be "reverting". Real, confirmed mongers stand up!
    I for two won't be reverting, I do not see any rationality doing so.

    I understand emotional reasoning, but my rationality will bring me back to monger world where sexual encounters are endless.

    FKK is like walking into any bar, but difference is that at FKK, it is secure thing with more varieties on display for you to taste and change as we monger want it. And during lucky summer months, we monger even get to taste walk in girls who are in FKK game sometimes, which most of them end up doing it for permanently after tasting fast cash.

    For mongers, fate, destiny and karama are the young beauties we bump in to at main bar, but main bar of FKK LOL. It is quite romantic setting that you do most dirty thing with her for few hours and never see each other again, it is melancholic side of FKK life as many mongers do remember some beautiful dirty moments with some beautiful young girls we nailed that we never see again as girls tend to leave for life at one point.

    I see news on TV of some country like Prague, Bucharest etc and I do think about these beautiful dirty moments I had with those young beautiful girls who were once at German FKK. I hope they are happy in their own way in their home town.

    There is no reverting at least fully, I had too much of beautiful moments in monger world.

  13. #11489
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    She was Oana at World, but she didn't send me message, she didn't have my number, she asked me in room. I wanted to leave the room, so she said: If You don t want, no problem. The reason was not for a apartment but about family. Of course, it was our last room. Even after all World girls knew I went to World for only 1 girl, when she saw me, she said "Mon. Chri" for months. The funniest is one member who liked to write about me and my girls, wrote she asked me 30 000 because I asked her for AO sex. Had anybody paid 30.000 to have AO sex? For 30 000, I would have a real top model look, Oana was not but only cute, for at least 1 month and no problem for AO sex if I wanted. I never paid and was never asked any extra for this.
    A girl asked for 30000 euro in FKK? Even for AO sex, that is absurd figure LOL.

    AO BJ AKA BBBJ is even 50 euro extra nowadays in some clubs, but wow 30.000 Euro, it would be better off for you to get wrx sti or lancer evolution for your weekend 1000 km drive to German FKK and mountain Siri.

  14. #11488
    She was Oana at World, but she didn't send me message, she didn't have my number, she asked me in room. I wanted to leave the room, so she said: If You don t want, no problem. The reason was not for a apartment but about family. Of course, it was our last room. Even after all World girls knew I went to World for only 1 girl, when she saw me, she said "Mon. Chéri" for months. The funniest is one member who liked to write about me and my girls, wrote she asked me 30 000 € because I asked her for AO sex. Had anybody paid 30.000 to have AO sex? For 30 000, I would have a real top model look, Oana was not but only cute, for at least 1 month and no problem for AO sex if I wanted. I never paid and was never asked any extra for this.

  15. #11487
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    A girl asking rudely or unwisely of course can lose out as you say.
    Siri once shared that a WG from World asked for 30 K for an apartment. I think that ruined the mood, illusion, fantasy. I don't believe he ever saw her again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    As for terminating a "friendship" with a working girl, all I can say is that for me it is extremely simple. I can fire her as you put it just as she can "fire" me. All it takes is one word "no"
    Well was it because they got fat or old? Or because they did something to upset you? If they upset you, then that is a very convenient excuse to have a falling out and terminate the relationship. The reason I ask you is because you characterize yourself as someone that can be somewhat flexible on looks. I imagine you as someone who would overlook minor optical flaws during the first fuck and early courtship phase. And once two years pass from that stage, you would not drop her as soon as she exhibited major optic flaws (10 extra kg and wrinkles). That assumes, of course, that the genuine connection remained strong for that entire two year period, and she didn't get greedy (I. E. Betty Sharks).

    Quote Originally Posted by Jnpr30  [View Original Post]
    I don't know if I would classify attendance of a certain number (30 or whatever) as addiction. Addiction Board in the US calls addiction a primary chronic disease of the brain. Websters defines addiction as a persistent, compulsive need of something known by the user to be harmful *AND* well defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawl.

    I don't think most mongers think FKKing is harmful (other than depletion of financial resources)
    To be perfectly clear, I believe paid sex is a wonderful thing. Even recreational drug use is a wonderful thing. They both relieve stress. They both allow for a temporary escape from the real world. They both might even help one function better and lead a more productive life. The problem is when they can't control it, and it consumes them.

    To your point about "depletion of financial resources", I characterize FKK activities as leisure or therapeutic. FKK is like our version of a relaxing beach holiday. Most people don't consider a beach holiday a waste of their financial resources. It allows them to return to their normal life feeling recharged. So beach holidays aren't a bad thing, provided people aren't spending disproportionate amounts of their disposable income on them. Financial planners advise you spend 10 percent of your after tax income on leisure (restaurants, pubs, normal holiday, FKKing): https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/27/how-...l-planner.html.

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