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  1. #13065
    Quote Originally Posted by Chongmal  [View Original Post]
    In October 2018 I read an article about a brothel in Houston Texas that was met with resistance. This was nothing unusual, except for the fact that the providers were robots, designed for the purpose of providing pleasure.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Wait a second, wait a second! Like Mr. Ho pointed out a long time ago, the robots will be taking over at the FKK clubs too! So that means not even jobs at the FKKs for the girls either! Times will be so hard, pimps will be laying off tutes! Ahahahaha! Well, at least the FKK robotic tutes can be programmed to provide top-notch service without fail every single time! LOL!
    Ya lahwy, FKK girls are already 5% silicon by composition, how long before they are 100% silicon? And will the robot brains be located in their boobs to save on materials and provide redundancy against damage? Two brains are better than one! But what happens if the boobs disagree about a guy? And do they get to charge for a threesome?

    Sadly, we forum posters will be even easier to replace. There is already a scary metal man called GPT-2 that uses a principle called "predictive text" to churn out stuff based on a seed sentence. For example, you might input "FKKs are just a fantasy world for entitled dorks," and from that alone it could generate all the posts of Takedown at the astounding rate of 10,000 lines a second. Where does that leave us humans? The boffins are refusing to let their invention out of their lab. Just imagine all the millions of flack-like jobs that would be lost overnight.

    Still the writing is on the wall (or console rather) for us kibitzers. Soon on this thread it will just be bots debating the relative merits of Adele and Carla, who will themselves be robots. Something will have been lost, though I'm not sure what to call it. Romance? Imagination? A working uterus?

  2. #13064

    An observation

    I know a really old but very clever and sprightly brothel madam, in her 80's in Berlin. She has seen it all and we made friends. Her summary is this: the top earning and popular girls are actresses who adapt to the client. Their customers tell lots of stories as well. It is fantasy land. Girls do it for money or other advantages alone with few exceptions. Empathy, manipulation, whatever, just like a master salesman or con artist, they tailor the message to whatever the occasion demands. The phone sex lines are the pinnacle of this chameleon type skill. If I was a female, I'd learn it fast as my income depends on it , and most girls have trait this bred in and reinforced in their socialization. They "Daaaaaaad" warning of teenager girls shows their innate social skills .

    Men by contrast are a combination of an ancient DNA programmed urge of impregnating pretty and healthy young things before starvation or a lion eats the caveman for dinner and / or having their egos stroked. Just as dogs are bred for friendliness, we now know that Williams-Beuren type genes are at play. Our illusion of free will is mostly just that. FKK's are sexual disneyland for men. We know Disneyland and operas and movies are temporary fun. Don't over analyze. It is the human condition. Enjoy, because life is short and boners tend become less frequent and strong as time marches on.

  3. #13063
    I encourage anyone who wants to do a threesome with Adele and Carla at Oase to do so. They are great together. Please don't let people of lesser means discourage you, especially if it is your own choice to do so. Carla has a lot of regulars so she doesn't need the 50 euro guys, good for her. The good thing is she will still give good service for club rate at 100 euro for 1 hour to guys who don't creep her out.

  4. #13062
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    When the robots take all the jobs, a lot more of us guys will have nothing to do except spend our time in FKKs and similar environments. And women will have no jobs either, except FKK jobs. So much for the diehard monogamists. There will be a lot more drugs too.

    Some will hate the laziness of it all. But it's better than people just hanging out on the streets starting fights.

    Oh brave new world! Better get used to it.
    There may be basic income system installed to some society in certain part of the world. Though at the moment more against than for, but if it goes through, then we mongers may face problem.

  5. #13061

    Job Loss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    When the robots take all the jobs, a lot more of us guys will have nothing to do except spend our time in FKKs and similar environments. And women will have no jobs either, except FKK jobs. So much for the diehard monogamists. There will be a lot more drugs too.

    Some will hate the laziness of it all. But it's better than people just hanging out on the streets starting fights.

    Oh brave new world! Better get used to it.
    Wait a second, wait a second! Like Mr. Ho pointed out a long time ago, the robots will be taking over at the FKK clubs too! So that means not even jobs at the FKKs for the girls either! Times will be so hard, pimps will be laying off tutes! Ahahahaha! Well, at least the FKK robotic tutes can be programmed to provide top-notch service without fail every single time! LOL!

  6. #13060
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    When the robots take all the jobs, a lot more of us guys will have nothing to do except spend our time in FKKs and similar environments. And women will have no jobs either, except FKK jobs. So much for the diehard monogamists. There will be a lot more drugs too.

    Some will hate the laziness of it all. But it's better than people just hanging out on the streets starting fights.

    Oh brave new world! Better get used to it.
    Interesting with all the talk of being replaced by robots, and yet you think Sauna Clubs will be the last place you will find women working. In October 2018 I read an article about a brothel in Houston Texas that was met with resistance. This was nothing unusual, except for the fact that the providers were robots, designed for the purpose of providing pleasure.

    Interestingly, in the last 15 days, I read a similar article about robots replacing humans I the work force. In this article, the projected survivors were finding alternative activities to maintain a healthy lifestyle. As for me, I hope that the rise of the robots is slow enough that Sauna Clubs are still using real women to provide pleasure during the duration of my active hobbying.

  7. #13059

    FKK and Income tax.

    After plenty of visits to 4 clubs I have noticed that only Artemis does accept entrance payment with debit or credit card and gives a receipt for that.

    All other clubs not only ask for cash only but they never give me a receipt. I once asked for a receipt and they gave me a piece of paper which was not a receipt.

    So just look at the title of the topic and figure.

  8. #13058
    Quote Originally Posted by Neurosynth  [View Original Post]
    Game theory is not in the business of predicting human behavior per se. It is merely the (mathematical) analysis of competitive situations in principle, and typically the derivation of optimal strategies.

    But it turns out that even animals other than humans will often behave in ways that game theory would judge as being optimal or highly optimized. The fact that animals without man's overgrown prefrontal cortex will, nevertheless, tend towards optimal behavior implies that behavior is innate rather than learned or deduced. I. e. It may have little to do with "rationality" and much more to do with a response to evolutionary pressure.
    I am not sure if you are arguing against my stance here, or adding to it. Since you are mirroring what I said and linked to. Just using different words. What you describe is basically determinism.

  9. #13057
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    When the robots take all the jobs, a lot more of us guys will have nothing to do except spend our time in FKKs and similar environments. And women will have no jobs either, except FKK jobs. So much for the diehard monogamists. There will be a lot more drugs too.

    Some will hate the laziness of it all. But it's better than people just hanging out on the streets starting fights.

    Oh brave new world! Better get used to it.
    Very true! But is it hard to predict what people will do with their spare time. And there will probably be bonuses going out to innovative people who can do what robots still cannot do.

    Travelling will probably go through the roof. But it is hard to say if people will still waste hundred of hours playing computer games, or if sports, fitness and gym will be the new deal. You see a lot of rich people these days. Even computer geeks spending 10+ hours at the gym every week. 15 years ago that was an oxymoron.

  10. #13056

    Brave New World

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Well, only in today's societal context is this true. Change certain basic criteria, and you can have a paradigm change. It won't be exactly like in an FKK, but the world outside of the sandbox can move towards it. Future technology can be the cause of such paradigm changes.
    When the robots take all the jobs, a lot more of us guys will have nothing to do except spend our time in FKKs and similar environments. And women will have no jobs either, except FKK jobs. So much for the diehard monogamists. There will be a lot more drugs too.

    Some will hate the laziness of it all. But it's better than people just hanging out on the streets starting fights.

    Oh brave new world! Better get used to it.

  11. #13055
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    Wallah Pistons, the problem with game theory is that it assumes human beings make rational choices. So it is not very good at predicting the behavior of 40-year old guys much less 20-year old girls.
    Game theory is not in the business of predicting human behavior per se. It is merely the (mathematical) analysis of competitive situations in principle, and typically the derivation of optimal strategies.

    But it turns out that even animals other than humans will often behave in ways that game theory would judge as being optimal or highly optimized. The fact that animals without man's overgrown prefrontal cortex will, nevertheless, tend towards optimal behavior implies that behavior is innate rather than learned or deduced. I. e. It may have little to do with "rationality" and much more to do with a response to evolutionary pressure.

  12. #13054
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    Still the most troubling accusation of all, a purely constructed scenario that has yet to be explained. I know we can live out fantasies in FKKs but they are usually about sexual activities with women. Accusing other men of things to explain rejection is very revealing of personal character. I would feel bad if rejected by a WG, but my first thought would be "what am I doing to cause the person to feel this way about me," not blaming it on others.
    When everyone thinks like you, upselling reaches new levels. Because one would rather pay 200 euro for a 3-some instead of holding ones ground. Still calling another guy an idiot is silly, and a negative impulse. That was the point I made. Nothing more, even if you try to derail it.

    When it comes to the dog argument, that person just finnished a room and hormones were all dead. While other people hearing his side side of the story just shook their heads in disbelief. But possessiveness is when someone cannot stand another person talking to a girl he considers to have ownership over, when being at a distance. Which is quite the mad idea in an FKK. Quite a big reason for many girls ending relationships with men nowadays is possessive traits like the guy freaking out if his girl talks to other men, according to a female friend of mine who works at a psychology firm.

    Polygamy may be a cult, as that is one man having several wives. But a many to many (think like a database) polygamous structured society may not have to be one. I thought we were over this semantics discussion though.

    As there are no such things as rituals, ceremonies, hierarchies nor holy / legal books (the defining characteristics of a cult) describing full out polyagous orgies. Only ones lassiez faire natural sexual ways. So I find it hard to agree with your cult description on what I have talked about here.

    You do have a good point regarding culture having cult as a root word though. Every culture is cultist. And maybe that is why the world leaders (the people behind the politicians who actually have brains) are trying to fend off cultures, and melt them all together in a quasi multicultural environment. Because of all the hatred and 'racism' we see when cultures clash. The clash of separate warring destructive cults.

    But ofcourse, unless people try to look outside the box, conflics will go on, and in 100 years or so, some lunatic crazed brainwashed cultural cultist will blow up a nuke where our families live.

  13. #13053
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    I hope you can take it as something to improve on instead of as an insult, is to be less possessive over the girls you like in an FKK. Be it either Carla (Oase) telling her other customers are idiots and then she avoids him right after.
    Still the most troubling accusation of all, a purely constructed scenario that has yet to be explained. I know we can live out fantasies in FKKs but they are usually about sexual activities with women. Accusing other men of things to explain rejection is very revealing of personal character. I would feel bad if rejected by a WG, but my first thought would be "what am I doing to cause the person to feel this way about me," not blaming it on others.

  14. #13052
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    I will just make a short summary instead:

    2: Even if money was the main contributor, then name calling is always a negative impulse that doesn't help. The only intervention was the pushing. Everything else was at the highest manners and shouldn't be any problem at all if one knows how to talk to people. But maybe you are right that we need to learn social skills in FKK's. What others mean is irrelevant when it is word against word.

    About the bonus question: The only cult we have here is the monogamous cult. I once read a book called 'Combating Cult Mind Control' by Steven Hassan. He points to 4 distinctions regarding what a cult is..
    When a person's blood rushes so much to his pecker away from his head, his sense of hearing often shuts off. Without blood, he cannot hear another person's request to back off. Like a dog that doesn't listen, sometimes you have to get that dog back in line by means that lets him know that you're serious.

    It's funny that you say that opinions of others do not matter. That's exactly how court arbitration works. Word against word, and a third party determines whose version is more plausible. Apparently it was was made clear but not to your liking so the only option left is to vent frustrations on ISG.

    Try as you might, when it's practiced by the majority of non-nutjobs, it's called culture not a cult. I know, same root words. I can see why that can be confusing.

    To summarize, Monogamy is our culture. Polygamy is a cult.

  15. #13051
    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheG  [View Original Post]
    True, nowadays we yearn for new fairytales, told by modern priest-like figures!
    Here I am advocating determinism, and you keep talking about priests and gods. I think you have missed a few points, so a direct reply to you is useless.

    But if you look at sales theory, and all these impulses we submit and receive, then that doesn't have to relate to clairsentience. It can all be subconscious. The same goes for the link between empathy, game theory and determinism.

    Takedown: I wrote 2 long replies to that last comment you made there, but seems they won't allow it. I will just make a quick reply on the last bonus question you did: There is a book called "Combating Cult Mind Control" by Steven Hassan. And according to that one we can easily define monogamy as a 100% complete destructive cult. Polygamous orgies all the time societies without a hierarchy however is pretty much the opposite of a cult.

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