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  1. #13655
    Quote Originally Posted by Chongmal  [View Original Post]
    Concerning the lower lineup at LR during the week, there are still good performing ladies. There are some switch hitters that jump in on the weekends but this is only relevant if your interested in the couple German women or women from other countries that have been there long enough to be nearly German. Most of them are in their 30's, two have lesser service, in my opinion. The best cure for a rotating lineup or getting ladies to work more days of the week is if men go to the club. A problem may be the pace that the club performs maintenance or improves facilities. One of the long time co. Plaints at LR is how much smoke is in the club. This gets even worse when the cigar smoking team comes in. The ladies who work at LR always make me feel welcome and I like the overall environment of the club, except on busy Friday and Saturday nights. Wednesday and Thursday are my two favorite days in the club because I can see the new ladies who are rotating in for the week.
    Locals and smoke at LR were also big problems for me.

    In the winter, there was too much smoke inside with opened windows letting cold winds coming in. I had nowhere to go except for the relax area downstairs.

    In the summer, there was no air condition. So rooms became so hot that it was almost impossible to have sex there.

    Maintenance and renovation necessary at LR.

    And a smoking free lounge, please.

  2. #13654
    Quote Originally Posted by Arnold15  [View Original Post]
    Earlier, I had Living Room as my favourite club. But girls do not stay long time at LR and some of my favourite high-performing girls were actually kicked out by management! So every year, I had to find new favourites.
    Concerning the lower lineup at LR during the week, there are still good performing ladies. There are some switch hitters that jump in on the weekends but this is only relevant if your interested in the couple German women or women from other countries that have been there long enough to be nearly German. Most of them are in their 30's, two have lesser service, in my opinion. The best cure for a rotating lineup or getting ladies to work more days of the week is if men go to the club. A problem may be the pace that the club performs maintenance or improves facilities. One of the long time co. Plaints at LR is how much smoke is in the club. This gets even worse when the cigar smoking team comes in. The ladies who work at LR always make me feel welcome and I like the overall environment of the club, except on busy Friday and Saturday nights. Wednesday and Thursday are my two favorite days in the club because I can see the new ladies who are rotating in for the week.

  3. #13653
    Quote Originally Posted by Arnold15  [View Original Post]
    I have visited + 25 clubs in Germany and Austria.
    God bless you for this report! Exactly what I have been searching for a long time. Difficult to extract useful info from the club threads. Too much chit chat unfortunately.

  4. #13652
    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    Were they practicing Catholic girls? I love girls who are true Catholics! 😁.
    A true Catholic will always be trying to rip the condom off you and have BBFS, no matter how much you plead and talk about venereal disease. That is how you know they are the real deal and not just pretending to be religious.

  5. #13651
    Quote Originally Posted by Bfsie  [View Original Post]

    I had two girls from Eastern European country (not Romania), one prayed to God in front of me right before and after the session and the other put a photo of Jesus Christ on her table, claiming he is her boyfriend. But they all fucked like porn stars during the sessions...
    Were they practicing Catholic girls? I love girls who are true Catholics! 😁.

  6. #13650
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    The sad thing though and you are right, but with these girls, at one point, I liked to think they are doing this hard job called prostitution in FKK for their blight future, but they are not LOL. Most of them are doing this job for mostly material things or pimp / boyfriend who put her in there or plastic surgeries LOL.
    Yes they love material things as long as they get them for free as presents. I don't think that they really spend their money on expensive brands or doing an expensive life outside the club. Most of them save for other things. Of course there are the super dumb who spend their money as a prostitute to get plastic tits so they look more like a prostitute.

  7. #13649
    Quote Originally Posted by Fucker2019  [View Original Post]
    Anytime the governments of this world fuck around with the law and rules and in their infinite wisdom decide to deny or outlaw something that all people want, the only thing that happens is that prices increase.
    Salaam Fucker. And also pimps play a greater role, telling the girls they are "protecting" them. Once the pimps have a stranglehold over the market, they push prices up more and more. Everything becomes an "extra".

    Let's not forget the loss of prestige that the Law in general suffers when there are clearly bad laws that everybody feels a need to get around.

    I am currently in a remote corner of Asia where prostitution was decriminalised by an enlightened government around the same time as FKKs became legal. It seemed very promising. The tourism industry in this unknown place began to show signs of life -- mongers will often form the spearhead of a big wave of tourism.

    However, five years ago the locals got very jealous of the foreigners coming in. As a result the "Guardians of Public Morality" decided to suppress the industry, despite it being perfectly legal. They told the police that they had free license to steal from both the girls and mongers. The result was predictable: police corruption soared, pimps took over everything, foreign (high quality) WGs left, and tourism went stagnant again.

    I think analogies can be drawn between this and the campaign of suppression that began in Germany in 2017.

  8. #13648

    Dolce Vita and Acapulco Gold

    Quote Originally Posted by Palcon  [View Original Post]
    How is Dolce Vita and Acapulco Gold? Went to oceans and there was too much upselling would rather go to LR but the LU is crappy during the week.
    I am a regular client at both DV and ACA Gold. At least 10 visits per years at both clubs.

    I have visited + 25 clubs in Germany and Austria.

    Dolce Vita: Probably best Line-Up in Dusseldorf. For a first-timer you will experience some up-selling, but it is not comparable with Oceans or tourist clubs like Palace, Artemis, etc. When you establish yourself as a regular client and girls recognice you, there will be no more up-selling. At the first visit, tell the girls that you have visited the club 10 times. Good service girls: Kelly, Ina, Mia and Ela.

    Aca Gold: is a budget club like Acapulco Velbert. Line-up is lower than LR and especially compared to DV.
    But probably among best value for money in Germany if you find the good girls.
    For example: Crista, Maya and Melissa (the last one speaks only German). Very good location close to the airport!

    Earlier, I had Living Room as my favourite club. But girls do not stay long time at LR and some of my favourite high-performing girls were actually kicked out by management! So every year, I had to find new favourites.
    However, LR is a very good club, if you are a first-timer. You can go with any girl and get good service - but this does not guarantee that the chemie bewteen you and her is good.

    Both DV and ACA Gold have a higher stability with respect to which girls are present at the club. So if you find some girls you like, probability is higher that you can meet them for several years.

  9. #13647
    Quote Originally Posted by Chongmal  [View Original Post]
    Well, yours is not certified unless you return it to Switzerland to be serviced by a certified Rolex shop at least every 3 years when you come to visit the Sauna Clubs. One of the things most of the ladies who discuss wanting a Rolex with me don't realize, along with the fact that the watch loses nearly 50% of it's value on day one out of the shop, and the models change very little over the years. The only good part is that they keep that initial depreciated value unless they are damaged. Buying a used certified one is not a bad choice like buying a new one.
    I avoid mentioning the model I got due to anonymity, but there are some models that goes up in value. I bought mine in year 2001 when I was 21 (that is age you become legally adult in Japan) for 8000 CHF and now it is valued at around 25000 to 30000 CHF in Tokyo like around 3 million yen.

    Personally, I hate most Rolex, I am more for Audemars Piguet, but there are few models that I like from Rolex because it is limited and the value keep on going up. I never rarely buy expensive things that do not go up in value, well I try to, the same reason why I do not want to marry as women tend to age and become less beautiful.

    Plus, I live in Tokyo. Do you know that it is one of top 5 best shopping place in the whole world? Google our shops, we got among the best official brand shops in the world that out stand other cities, I can just service it here at official dealer and they send it back to Switzerland for service with jewelry post service that is insured and you are bit wrong in this as well because also for vintage watches, it is better to service it in Japan due to quality of engineering for vintage watches and cars, we got more official parts and better engineer for certain vintage stuffs because due to our culture of quality and also as a consumer we buy a lot of vintage high end product as we tend to like art a lot and vintage products are in area of art than just materialism.

    I answered this since you brought it up, but all this is another story to mongering. What we were discussing before was not about stupid service for watch or stupid watch itself, but we were discussing why girls in FKK do not use money they get in FKK as stepping stone for their life, but they spend not just part, but most of the hard money they make on watches, bags, car or some other stupid things etc. They do not realized that it is limited amount of time they can do this job of prostitution and also it is limited time when they are actually popular as they age and they often age faster in brothel like FKK due to life style. If it is little they spend, I understand, but they spend most of it.

    Also relating watch to FKK, I am thinking of buying sport digital watch like suunto or polar for my FKK trip because I tend to think it is better that girls do not see these things on you, then they try to upsell because I have been told staff like but you have money etc. While I am negotiating and I begin to now think that stop watch idea is good idea for session as a guy mentioned earlier.

  10. #13646
    Anytime the governments of this world fuck around with the law and rules and in their infinite wisdom decide to deny or outlaw something that all people want, the only thing that happens is that prices increase.

    Adam Smith knew that 200 years ago. Still true today. Was true in prohibition days and true in 2019.

    The smart ones knew the German law would just make the girls charge more for the things they were already providing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neurosynth  [View Original Post]
    (Sorry for the repeated message, but it needs to be said.).

    The "new law" scare should be over now. There is no reason to deny "doing something illegal. " FKK's are not being shut down. Guys are not being fined. Perhaps there is some competitive problem among the girls due to reviews, but guess what, that's *always* been the case.

    The greatest danger is that by not openly discussing AO or BBBJ it will contribute to the notion that it's "special" and thus higher priced than it need be.

  11. #13645
    Quote Originally Posted by Neurosynth  [View Original Post]
    (Sorry for the repeated message, but it needs to be said.).

    The "new law" scare should be over now. There is no reason to deny "doing something illegal. " FKK's are not being shut down. Guys are not being fined. Perhaps there is some competitive problem among the girls due to reviews, but guess what, that's *always* been the case.

    The greatest danger is that by not openly discussing AO or BBBJ it will contribute to the notion that it's "special" and thus higher priced than it need be.
    I think the BBBJ discussion has resumed pretty openly after the initial probationary period after the law, which I think was just good form in order to see how it panned out. After the initial casualties of girls being kicked out, I don't see many people withholding that info anymore. I'm not sure why you suggest that people are still not talking about it. It has been talked about openly here for over a year now. As for legality, no one that I recall ever took the potential fines seriously.

    AO has always been and probably should remain a closed topic in non AO clubs. Clubs definitely kick girls out for providing Ao service and other girls definitely read and talk.

  12. #13644
    Quote Originally Posted by Palcon  [View Original Post]
    How is Dolce Vita and Acapulco Gold? Went to oceans and there was too much upselling would rather go to LR but the LU is crappy during the week.
    DV is usually considered to have slightly higher upselling than at Oceans. On my DV visit I felt upselling was slightly above Oceans too, but in the room it was the same, as the girl was nice. Although some of the girls at DV are the same as at Oceans, so it may not differ much. And / or at least the same type of girls.

    Aca Gold is rumored to have the occasional strangler coming over from other clubs. On my only visit there it felt so bad that I doubt I will ever place my feet inside those doors ever again. Lowest among all the 20 or so FKK's I've been to.

  13. #13643
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    I got watch all the time, but some girls seems to have different clock to mine and yes mine is actually Rolex LOL.

    Now that I think about it, with two rooms I did only in globe in my only single visit to Globe, if I remember correctly, both rooms had a clock on the wall.
    Well, yours is not certified unless you return it to Switzerland to be serviced by a certified Rolex shop at least every 3 years when you come to visit the Sauna Clubs. One of the things most of the ladies who discuss wanting a Rolex with me don't realize, along with the fact that the watch loses nearly 50% of it's value on day one out of the shop, and the models change very little over the years. The only good part is that they keep that initial depreciated value unless they are damaged. Buying a used certified one is not a bad choice like buying a new one.

  14. #13642
    Quote Originally Posted by Pksimar69  [View Original Post]
    Why are all the girls so crazy about getting a Rolex? I have noticed they all have some stereotypes like one is brainwashing the other. They all use those red Londoner condoms, they all love champagne, they all love Rolex, they even tell you the same things when they get mad, like one is copying each other.
    The sad thing though and you are right, but with these girls, at one point, I liked to think they are doing this hard job called prostitution in FKK for their blight future, but they are not LOL. Most of them are doing this job for mostly material things or pimp / boyfriend who put her in there or plastic surgeries LOL.

    Sad and stupid, but I guess it is worst personality side of women got stronger in environment of brothel. They do all this job and they often leave clubs with nothing when they retire, I only know few success case out of this industry, but oddly they often come back to FKK few years after retirement again. , then after while they are gone for good. These girls have few retirements.

    Girls could use this industry as stepping stone, but they end up getting blinded too much by materialistic things.

    As for condoms being same, they buy that condom from club because it is easier and safer because some clients put holes in their condoms. I use my own condom and they let me thankfully, I like my rubber thin LOL!

  15. #13641
    Quote Originally Posted by Chongmal  [View Original Post]
    I would agree with you comments about most ladies being honest on time if we were posting 5 or 6 years ago. I've seen more fast running clocks in the last 3 years than ever before. The favorite seems to be, "we are five minutes over the thirty minute interval, so you have to pay the extra 50".

    My reply, OK, twenty two minutes for you to perform BJ, and I have ran my timer on my phone with ladies who do this.
    Yeah, like I wrote, sometimes with some girls in FKK especially recently as you said, I feel like I am dealing with childish street hustlers LOL, I mean things I sometimes have to argue is like going back to kid like my watch was such and such time and she say her watch was such and such time, my watch is better etc. Often they back down because they seems to still have some kind of guilty conscious? Of some sort and they say things like really? And they back off LOL.

    I must say, most girls are fine and fair enough, these scam attempts only happen once every two years, but in those few time, I sometime want to ask them, does this stupid strategy of yours or I don't even want to call that strategy, but scam works on any client? LOL.

    The funny thing is that, when you are polite and kind in FKK, these girls tend to mistake politeness and kindness for weakness. I think this is the culture where they come from, any kindness is seen as weakness is the culture and environment these girls brought up, I think that is where it come from.

    The thing is, I am polite and kind in FKK, till these girls [CodeWord140] me off wrongly and my other side comes out called I cut the session to 50 euro for 30 min session at 29th minutes LOL! The desk is always fair enough as long as you explain yourself calmly and you paid the time you were in the room, they got security camera to check how long you were in room, I never had any problem.

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