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  1. #185

    Kiev sketches

    In this picture we see a real estate agent from Texas and Tatiana. She is 23 years old, she is married. Ukrainian girls get married very early because Ukraine cannot have a good career for women like in the West. Ukraine is the world of men. The main weapon of a Ukrainian or Russian woman is not her brain and education but her little pink pussy. She came to Dave in an apartment in the center of Kiev. Dave is a little afraid of women since he came from the center of world feminism. From the USA. He is a bit constrained. Tatyana understood this and took the initiative a bit. After a little flirtation and flirting, she suddenly dropped to her knees and began to skillfully work with her pink tongue and hot mouth. . But the phone rings unexpectedly. This is Oleg. Husband Tatiana. She forgot to turn off the sound. But everything will be fine and after a while the unfortunate Ukrainian neighbors will hear the sounds of slaps on the ass, Tatiana's moans and the hoarse fierce cry of a Texas cowboy. Dave wants to stretch this pleasure and extend it as long as possible. But this devilish hot pussy. His huge American body turns red and convulses. Dave quickly loses control and a powerful tight jet of sperm hits a condom. His buttocks continue to shrink in convulsions. He moans loudly like a wounded predatory beast. This is a Ukrainian-American orgasm. How good it is to be a citizen of the USA. Dave thinks looking at the beautiful ass and pink pussy under him. He easily slaps the girl with his hand on the ass.

    In another picture we see the second visit of Dave and Steve. Three girls Olga and Natasha and Lena work well with their mouths and tongues.
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  2. #184

    Drama of western society.

    Interesting trend. More and more sex wifi porn in Russia where there are hot brutal Caucasian guys. Dagestan. Chechnya. Gruziya. To there are regions where a woman takes a subordinate position. What we see. What is this tendency. What is higher than the position of a woman in society and family. What is higher the level of female independence and contempt for a man. What is more in Ukraine or Russia obedient and subordinate men. Then brighter is this Caucasian inquiry and trend. But why? But because the male dominates in nature and not the female. The woman stands submissively in the pose of the dog and receives her portion of sperm. Because no matter how high a woman in the hierarchy rose. She dreams of finding someone who is stronger than she. She dreams of finding an alpha male. She dreams of such an orgasm. Look carefully at the video where the Turks are brutally fucking feminized Russian women from Moscow and or Kiev. These women scream during sex. They are like crazy. They subjugated their husbands. Like western women. And the nature is dominated by the male and not the female. These are the laws of nature. But the Turks. The Caucasus. Is the world of men. These men. They are others. And these females. They want to return to nature. They want to be brutally fucked by men from less matriarchal cultures. Less than feminized. What we see in these numerous videos. These females become insane. Their screams. Their moans. It's a bit dramatic. But we see the same thing in the USA. Only on the islands of the Caribbean. All these unruly feminized women from the offices. They take off their panties and take on huge brutal penises of mulattoes and blacks. Guys from a society where there is no feminism! .

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  3. #183

    This is just another specific and different type of sex tourism.

    One guy writes to me that I advertise Ukraine with my texts. Probably he suspects that I am the owner of a network of underground brothels in Kiev or Odessa. He does not believe me. I am writing to him on the contrary, I warn the guys against going to Ukraine. Well, because sex tourism can be different. Ukraine is a country for a completely different type of sex tourism. Yes, there was a brightest period of 2004 - 2006 when there was a novelty effect and every gray office clerk from Canada was for Ukrainian young ladies as a superman. But this period passed and remained only in our memories and he comes back to us sometimes from the past during our masturbation. There is such a guy in our Ukrainian community Steve69. You can not believe me but this is a real person. I believe in his reports. He is a master of flirting and is able to directly appeal to an unfamiliar girl, even on the street. He loves communication and does not avoid any opportunity for communication. Ukraine does not have a developed sex industry, so it is not for mass sex tourism. Also, it is not Colombia or Brazil, where you are perceived simply as a white gringo, which means you need to suck your dick. This is a special psychology of girls from Third World countries These are girls who, perhaps 100 years ago, were probably slaves. In Ukraine there was a highly developed Soviet society, modernized enough, with science and a good system of universal education. This is not a banana republic. Which means in Ukraine you are not a white gringo. Because in Ukraine everything is white. And Ukraine is not a country of the South. Where life is cheaper than in the countries of the North. There is no heating fee and you do not need expensive winter clothes like in Ukraine. Therefore, sex cannot cost too cheap. Because the costs of a Ukrainian girl for winter clothes, on food and on housing heating in winter is much higher than in warm countries. And prostitution is illegal. Why do girls from Gia cost 200-300 dollars per hour? Because prostitution is illegal. It means you have to constantly pay bribes to corrupt officials and police. Otherwise your business will be closed. Therefore, such a high price per hour with a girl from Gia. But there are beautiful and young girls. There is Polina, goddess blowjob and CIM. Therefore, not poor guys from the USA and Europe who are tired of the hot colored bodies of Colombia or the Philippines and want to see the submissive white-ass ass of a 20-year-old tall Ukrainian blonde student in a dog pose, these guys will not have problems even in Ukraine. Guys who earn a month for 12-15 000 dollars. For example, they want to take revenge on those white arrogant beautiful American girls who refused them and did not take off their panties. When these guys were still poor student losers. And these guys will carry out all their dirtiest lustful fantasies in Ukraine. But what do guys who do not earn $ 15,000 do? And for example $ 2,500. Therefore, Ukraine is a country for guys who know how to interact and penetrate into this society. And who have free time. Then she will give you her pleasures. This is what our friend Steve writes. He meets with a young student. Fucks her for $ 35. After what she tells her friend about it and this second girl comes to his apartment. That is what we see? He penetrates this society. Obviously she told all the other girls. She said that she was cute and not yet the old western guy fucked her and gave money. Other girls understood this and one of them also wanted some money. That is, this is not Thailand as you can see in this case. This is just contacts and the ability to establish connections and expand these connections. Then you can fuck even 5-6 familiar girls. Ukrainian mid-level businessmen often do this. Then some girls marry but other girls come. Often this is group sex. That is, this is actually your constant harem -Tania. Marina. Oksana. Polina, Kristina etc. If, besides, you are good as a male in sex and you have a good body, it will be an additional bonus for you. Or for example you make cunnilingus. Because girls tell other girls about you. At the same time you can create an alternative harem. The main thing is that you do not interfere brutally with the girls' personal lives and value their personal space. Because usually they have boyfriends. Girls in Ukraine often get married very early but this does not mean that they will be absolutely monogamous. In fact, these are your females. Like in the wild. Then those girls who got married can return to your harem again. For example, they are bored in bed with her husband or he earns little. But these are not professional prostitutes. This, too, sex tourism but not quite ordinary. That's what Ukraine is. This is just another specific and different type of sex tourism. These guys can not pay 300-400 dollars so they just turn into Ukrainians a little. That is, they become part of this society. They attend exhibitions. Presentations. Complete walks around the university where hundreds of beautiful girls and so on. They forced to compensate for the lack of big money with their communication and interpersonal skills. And naturally some of the girls agree to come to him and get a gift and have fun. And some say, I'm sorry, I have a husband. Or boyfriend. I can't. This is how the councils th artillery system covers Grad. Or large as the US carpet bombing during the war in Vietnam. You're just doing a lot of shots and of course in a poor country there are women who do not resist the temptation. If you do not have free time and desire to communicate Then you can just buy a ticket to Bangkok or call to UA agency Gia. If you can read Russian, you can use individual ads.

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  4. #182

    Several reasons to try Ukraine.

    Kiev or Thailand? This is just a hunt for different kinds of sensations. In Ukraine you need more time. Skills and patience. But Kiev can give you an unforgettable feeling. This is just another kind of pleasure than in Thailand. . other sensations and other girls. It's just like fishing or hunting for lions. What's better is to catch sharks in the sea or shoot hyenas in Africa. These are just different kinds of entertainment. Fishing is fishing and hunting is hunting. It requires a little more effort and patience. Because it is still not a country of the Third World. This is some strange country. The mixture of Europe and Latin America. I will now try to explain my thought more clearly with the help of fantasy and literary talent. I certainly am not Francis Scott Fitzgerald and not Nabokov, but I hope you appreciate my literary experiences. Kiev's highest value is young semi-professionals or just girls who currently need money. For fashionable lingerie or shoes. Often they have a Ukrainian boyfriend who calls them when they give you a blowjob. Sometimes they can suck cock and talk with her boyfriend. There is some thrill about it. Of course, Bangkok and its Asian live meat market on the street can never give you such a thrill. You may be disappointed in Kiev, but you may experience incredible sensations in strength and sharpness. Very sharp orgasms and strong sexual arousal. A beautiful 19-20 year old student with white skin and green eyes and golden hair. Tomorrow this tender pussy will lick his tongue, and she will wriggle in convulsions and press Sergey's head stronger to his pussy. But it will be tomorrow. And today. Your rhythm gets mad. The curves of her tender back make you mad. Your chest ejects a cry. This is the cry of a wounded beast. There are stifrom the University of Taras Shevchenko, who plays with her tongue around your penis and makes you erupt a huge fountain of sperm almost to the very ceiling of your apartment. Who had talked nicely in your apartment with her mom and then with her boyfriend on the phone and told him that they would soon meet near the Golden Gate metro. Or for example tomorrow they go together to the cinema. And at this time your excited penis touches her elastic Ukrainian ass. And at that time she says something tender to her boyfriend and your penis stands like an iron stick. . she laughs and says-well my dear. Tomorrow evening we go to this film. Natasha told me that this is a super movie. , . You run your fingertips over her white skin. She shudders a little. Your cock rises and touches her ass. You feel incredible excitement. She laughs again and says something to her boyfriend. Her hand folds hair and she takes a close look at your excited penis. At this time, her hand gently massages your dick. And you can enjoy the smell of her golden hair. She looks at your excited penis and says, yes. Yes. I will call you in the evening. No. I do not like this cinema. Sergey, no. Please. There is such a loud sound. And there is a little uncomfortable. I don't really like it there, her voice becomes capricious like that of a child. . you glance at the bed. There are condoms on the little table near bed. . her boyfriend tells her some funny incident. She laughs like an actress and says goodbye to him. Her voice is gentle and soft.

    After which you pounce on her like a hungry animal. You devour her body with your mouth. Devour her breasts and nipples. Powerfully take her hair with your hand. Soon in this room there will be groans and your hoarse breathing. She sucks your dick. Your hands hold her hair with power. She does it skillfully. Girls in Ukraine suck well sometimes in 15 years. You involuntarily utter some dirty lustful words. You press your scrotum to her mouth and feel her playful hot tongue playing with your testicles. Like electric impulses permeate your brain. You press her head even more. Her tongue continues its devilish work. You lift her head and you want to see her big green eyes. You look at those big eyelashes. A little childish lips. A clean young face. Innocent face. Your imagination draws you like this face and these eyelashes. And these children's little naughty lips. Everything is spattered with your thick heavy sperm. You feel a new wave of wild lust. Tomorrow this charming innocent creation, this charming lady in a short skirt and high heels will walk along the corridor of the university for another lecture of economics. She will sit in the audience and watch boring growth charts for the Chinese and world economy. Something to write in a notebook. In the evening she together with Sergey will go to the cinema for an American film about love. But now her graceful thin panties are lying on a chair. In your apartment in the center of Kiev. At this very time in the same apartment in a nearby street a hoarse male moan is heard and a powerful jet of sperm beats in a young saleswoman's mouth. She came from a small town to Kiev in search of a better life. A 51 year old Turkish lawyer from Istanbul paid for good oral sex and good CIM. This is his fetish. At home he has a grumpy wife and four children. In Turkey. A beautiful girl with a big booty runs into the bath to spit out his cum. The Turkish lawyer looks tenderly at her beautiful legs and big elastic ass. He is happy. This girl lives three together in a rented apartment with the same girls from a small town. You have beautiful friends, my dear, asks her lawyer from Istanbul. She looks a bit like his young daughter. Only her eyes are not Turkish. They are gray. And the skin is lighter. She came back from the bathroom where she spat out his cum. Kiev lives its mysterious life. Pisces and wealth. The vigil and innocence. Everything is near. You play with her hair. All this is like some kind of cocktail. The innocence suddenly turns into depravity and lust. . Everything is mixed up and everything is very ghostly. This strange Slavic city is the same as this strange country. Everything is ghostly. Everything is deceptive. Her tender fingers and tender lips skillfully put a condom on your iron dick. You enter her pink pussy like a beast. You feel like something hot and hot as the devil covers your penis. You enjoy looking into her big green eyes. It helps you with the movements of her body and pussy. Your breathing quickens. Do you remember how she five minutes ago, gracefully threw back her hair and laughed while talking on the phone. You are caught in a fire of lust. Make cruel blows. Then you put her in the pose of the dog. She quickly and obediently becomes in the pose of a submissive female. Like in animals. It is a popular position in the Slavic world. These Slavic women love power and masculine brutal force. They love to be submissive and to feel that they are in your power. You remember her ringing laughter. Her talking on the phone. Can you imagine how tomorrow she will climb the university steps. In a short skirt and high heels. How she will discuss something with her friends. Listen to lectures on economics and history of the Cold War.

    Before your eyes her white as snow butt and beautiful back. And golden hair. You gently put your dick in her pink pussy. Tomorrow, instead of you, there will be her boyfriend named Sergey. His lips will gently kiss this pink pussy and these petals. But now. You are looking at your submissive prey. Then a pause. Then apply a powerful deep blow. Then a second blow. Then a third blow. Your dick enters this pussy with rage as a brutal Mongol horde breaks into the besieged city. Punch and punch again. And punch again. Your heart is ready to jump out of your chest. You start to growl like a tiger involuntarily. The kind of white beautiful submissive ass makes you wild. You put a strong deep blow. Then more and more. The feeling of absolute power makes you mad. You slap her hand on the pope. She moans. You do not notice your growl and the sound of slaps. The gentle spring light penetrates your room. A huge spring Kiev breathes through the window. Thousands of slender girls at this time are walking through the sunny streets about their business. One of them is now groaning under the blows of your heavy hammer. You slap her on the pope again. You look like your penis like a ram enters this tender submissive pink pussy. Tough and brutal. Tomorrow this pussy will be entered by its rightful owner, her boyfriend Sergey, from the Faculty of Economics of the University. They have been dating for half a year already. Ll a few blows left. Until the end. It seems to you that all this huge alien Ukrainian city hears your cry. And this humble moan. This is an orgasm. Your muscles continue to shrink. This is an altered consciousness. The most powerful and safe drug. Heat covers your whole body like after vodka. You are gradually returning to reality. On the floor is a torn condom wrapper. Your hand gently strokes her back. Rage gives way to tenderness. She meekly continues to stand in a pose. You jokingly and easily slapping her on the pope. She gently laughs. And something tells you. Your condom is heavy as an apple filled with juice. The fierce battle is over. You look at her beautiful back and snow-white ass. Just three minutes ago this submissive back and ass made you a wild monster. You look at an innocent tender pink pussy. Tender rose petals. Soon thin panties will cover this pussy. These few centimeters of female flesh. Pink hot moist flesh. That flower petals. And a thin hot slit. These few centimeters of flesh took away all your strength. They for some time deprived you of reason and control and made you a mad animal. They made you breathe loudly and growl like a predator.

    What a diabolical power is hidden in this tiny piece of female flesh, you think. You are looking at this golden hair. Weak thin hands. A graceful back. On this pink devilish pussy. Tomorrow she will be kissed by Sergey. You are absolutely exhausted. You are empty. At this moment you understand what makes a lonely 46 years man from Canada or the United States or Norway buy a plane ticket and fly to this distant Slavic city. And then return there again and again. It's like a drug. It is the most powerful drug that does not destroy our body and psyche. A safe drug. She comes out of the shower and her gentle fingers wear panties. She sings a song in Slavic and straightens her hair. You admire the lines of her body. Soon she will meet with her friend Natasha and they will go to drink coffee in a cafe. They will have fun chatting and gossiping. Natasha broke up with her boyfriend and she has a slight depression. Natasha is a beautiful tall brunette, 22 years old. She has a slender neck and a slightly arrogant face. And loud blue eyes. How could I love this scoundrel for so long? Natasha says. Forget about him. It is not worth you-your golden-haired blonde tells her. Natasha looks sad at the view outside the cafe. Expensive cars pass like gondolas in the canals of Venice. Rich Ukrainians sit in them. Businessmen. Politicians. Businessmen's busters. This is a local high society. They go to expensive ones restaurants with their wives or mistresses. Soft spring evening. The blonde tells a funny story that happened to Polina. They laugh. Natasha met this guy for two years. So she is a little sad. Her breasts are beautiful. And in deep blue eyes she slumbers subtle debauchery. She knows how to make a man scream in bed. But she has never been with a foreigner. Her little neat pussy also harbors a diabolical power. And her naughty tongue and hot mouth could make growling from the pleasure of not one doctor from Canada or the USA and then pluck out the Canadian sperm fountain. He will repeatedly remember her pussy and tongue in his native Toronto. And the look of her submissive ass. Blonde Lena looks at Natasha and imagines how she stands in a dog pose and groans under your blows. Natasha is beautiful, she thinks.

    Outside the window of an expensive jeep a middle-aged man comes out with some kind of woman. Perhaps this is his wife or mistress. Lena and Natasha greedily devour the eyes of her expensive clothes and expensive branded handbag. There is a light in their eyes. Natasha's chest heaves heavily. Something like a dream appears in her blue eyes. Now she looks like a little child who wants a toy. Lena looks at her beautiful face. Natasha is like a little capricious child. Forget about this Igor, says Lena again. Lena buys a portion of white ice cream and eats. Can also buy. Delicious? Give me one spoon-Natasha asks. Lena stretches a spoon to her pink hot tongue. A small portion of ice cream disappears into her beautiful mouth. This mouth forced Igor to growl from an orgasm in bed. But it was all over. And it means there are new adventures ahead. Maybe it will be a 43 year old military consultant from the United States. Far from Kiev in the east, the war continues. A great war has died away. But the fire has not yet gone out. The conflict is slowly smoldering. His red sweaty face will be twisted from rage and lust, and his loud breathing will be like a growl of a hungry beast that tears up an antelope. Yes. Baby. Give. More. . Yes. Aah. Aaahh. Putting all his masculine power and hunger into every stroke of the penis. His fat, not very beautiful American wife at this time will watch another series of culinary tv shows in her home on the east coast of the United States. She will laugh out loud while looking at this stupid tv show. At this time her husband will finish at a frantic pace. Then thin graceful fingers will tear off the next condom wrapper. Despite 43 years old her husband is very strong and strong. The former marine. He will wheeze in his apartment in the center of Kiev. What a beautiful country. It's good that they sent me to Ukraine and not Afghanistan, he will think, looking like her pink tongue flutters around the head of his penis. . but now her tight pussy is hidden by her panties and is sad. How are you with Sergey. Everything is fine, asks Natasha with a slight sadness in her voice. Everything is good. Tomorrow we go to the cinema. In the evening. - Lena answers. Lights are lit outside the window. The city blooms with a myriad of lights and colors. A gaggle of several girls passes by the cafe windows. They laugh loudly. Spring Kiev evening, in this cafe is always great coffee. Well. Let's go, says Natasha, yes. Let's go,- says Lena.

    But you must understand that this beautiful girl will disappear just as easily from your life as she appeared. Ukraine is instability. Today she swallows your sperm and tomorrow she will marry at 21 and give birth to a child. Therefore you should attract people like you situations. You need to work on yourself and not be afraid to take risks. Any situation is a chance for you. For example, sweet talk with a beautiful saleswoman in a smartphone or clothing store. Anything. Ukraine gives its sharp pleasures to those who are not afraid. Those who can overcome fear. Such guys are good and easy in Ukraine. You have to learn how to buy beautiful girls in Ukraine. Everything should be clothed in the form of tender friendship and help. If she is a student-artist from the Academy of Arts you can admire her paintings and buy something. For her it will be an event. Will thank you in bed. You must be open. Sure. Light as a pen. Because she really wants money but not every Ukrainian young lady wants to feel like a prostitute. You need to convince her that she is not a prostitute. She really is not a prostitute. She was just born in the poorest country in Europe. And around so There are many shining boutiques and so many temptations. She's a woman. You have to understand her condition. This is a poor country. But you have to learn how to buy such non-professional girls and do it gracefully. Without hurting their psyche. This is not Asia. . that is not Thailand. You should not forget that it is white he European girl. And this is the main difficulty in Ukraine. Beautiful girls are often very poor but the internal barrier prevents them from taking off her panties and taking your dick in her mouth. This is a fierce internal struggle. Many western guys do not understand these psychological details and behave like in a brothel. And often this beautiful prey escapes and the hunter is left without prey. They do not understand that this is not Thailand.

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  5. #181

    Ukrainian women want a strong man.

    Ukrainian women want a strong man. We live too long in Western culture, where a man needs to be polite, compromising and even apologetic. In Western culture, on the first day, we were educated to ask the girl if I would like to kiss her or something like that.

    You have to understand that women in Ukraine enjoy that they feel your strength and your bestial desire. She enjoys the fact that she submits to your strong will of the male, active strong Male. For her this is a real pleasure. She feels her feminine value at such moments. High female value.

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  6. #180

    Agreed fully.

    I think I was a bit tipsy and got angry with my failed attempt with some shop girls. This girl from gia. I welcomed to my apartment politely but thought to myself. Do what you want.

    I saw her pretty dress. Sexy short skirt. I lifted it up. Her pink pussy said Hello. While I played porn. Had her head looked at the porn. Started sucking her pussy with my fingering. She moaned deeply and I said vulgar-porn star-like words. Then, I grabbed her head and started guiding her to my penis pleasure. I think that night, I was the wildest animal of all sex I had.

    Then, she found my style. Which was completely new to me. But it was her perception of me - "bestial man". Yes, that woman is not the one listed on the ads. It's the woman you just created. Be a gentleman in the restaurant or bar, but when it comes to sex, you will craft your own grammar, language, laws, rules, principles, and style. Tomek is absolutely right. Get that inner "beast" out (American women say "inner child" - fuck them).

    I took her next day to nice restaurant even for my US price range, treated her nicely, like a real woman, then, you can immediately feel that she feels respected. They put their arms in your arm when walking or stay very closely "attaching themselves" to you, who are the owner of their pleasure and comfort in life. Then, her body is yours. Condom? Protection? Anal? Money? Time? She dropped the whole thing. This is also the case where many Ukrainian single mom starts their miserable life as well. Because they entrust themselves to guy. Well, fucking professional without condom got me some pause, but actually they are cleaner and more cautious than some other normal girl. I fully enjoyed myself with this girl for 3 days. My initial pay was nothing when you think what I got from this girl. This is "satisfaction" by changing myself and see the world change toward you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomek123  [View Original Post]
    In general, you can draw certain conclusions. I personally do not have any solid categorical rules. Although of course the payment in the end has its own sense of a certain logic. I will not argue.

    Just when the girl has not yet received the money, you can afford a little more in bed. It's Ukraine. You can slap her ass. Or take her hair. Or use some vulgar words. But in moderation of course. I for example after the first orgasm I force to caress tongue my nipples or testicles. Maybe the girl would like to not do this but just leave. But she thinks about money and does it all. To get her money. You should not be too rude or brutal like some western guys do. Who think that the Ukrainian girl is not a man but an animal. These guys think-these girls work for a month for 150 dollars. Why should I treat them with respect? They are just cheap females for sex and stupid white Africans..

  7. #179

    Ukrainian girls. Veteran's experience.

    In general, you can draw certain conclusions. I personally do not have any solid categorical rules. Although of course the payment in the end has its own sense of a certain logic. I will not argue.

    Just when the girl has not yet received the money, you can afford a little more in bed. It's Ukraine. You can slap her ass. Or take her hair. Or use some vulgar words. But in moderation of course. I for example after the first orgasm I force to caress tongue my nipples or testicles. Maybe the girl would like to not do this but just leave. But she thinks about money and does it all. To get her money. You should not be too rude or brutal like some western guys do. Who think that the Ukrainian girl is not a man but an animal. These guys think-these girls work for a month for 150 dollars. Why should I treat them with respect? They are just cheap females for sex and stupid white Africans.

    But it's the wrong thinking. The girl will suck your dick and lick your balls to get your monthly salary or half your salary. But she will have an unpleasant memory of you. And she probably will not offer you her girlfriends. Besides such an official and brutal attitude deprives you of certain advantages. For example, it can make you a good advertisement. Among her girlfriends.

    I call this the,principle of acute needle,.

    The needle can penetrate the arteries even in the heart of a person / never need to neglect contacts and connections in Ukraine. You have to understand that a girl in Ukraine generally likes gossip and has many girlfriends. If you lick her pussy then tomorrow all her friends will know that she met at a cafe with an American and he spent an hour (they are always inclined to lie a bit) licking her pussy. And they will know how much money she earned. They can also try to use this girl as a way to get to know you and then have a good time at a nightclub or have a good meal at a cafe. But do not be an Arab sheik. You need to appreciate your money. You can treat them a little but no more. You can with humor offer sex threesome. They will joke and laugh. But it's not scary. At one point I just at a table in a cafe put my hands on the hands of two girls and gently stroked them. I fucked one of them for three hours before that. You can always play with them a bit. One day a girl ate an ice cream I bought her. Her friend Tania before this sucked my cock and sat next to cafe. I began to admire how she eats ice cream. She began to smile. Girlfriend also began to smile and giggle. I told her that she just could outshine Sasha Gray and many others. She laughed and. She found out about me from the stories of Tanya and also obviously wanted to make some money. I was able to fuck her in three days.

    You must understand that you must give the girl a feeling of friendship. Then it will be easier for her to suck your cock and you can be more brutal with her in bed. It's Slavic psychology. Here the conventions are necessary. You can not be too calculating and extremely rational. You need to put on all the fake friendship. Because Ukraine attracts men from all over the world thanks to their semi-pro or ordinary girls.

    An ordinary young girl has a much worse economic situation and needs money. The same girl in Belgium does not have such huge problems.

    But this does not mean that you should be too soft and full of botanists. No. Of course. Here a man must be brave and strong. This is the mentality of the Ukrainian and Russian women. In other words, you should not treat them like animals. But at the same time you have to keep balance. Western guys should understand that they have much in common with Latin American girls or African-American girls. Sometimes I use light dictatorial methods during sex. For example Olga, a girl from Sumy, she did not want to support me in a pause after the first orgasm. But I first put my finger in her mouth. She started to suck it. Liked it. Feel her tongue. Hot and wet. But she probably wanted to get away from work. But she probably wanted to get away from work. I took her easily by the hair and bent and made me fondle my tongue around the dick. At first she resisted and did not want to caress my balls with her tongue but I insisted on my. I took her head gently but strongly and she realized that she should lick my balls. This is the art in sex with the Slavs-you must let the Ukrainian understand that she must submit to your will but at the same time do not offend her dignity. . you male and your will is the law. You want to put your finger in her mouth. Do it. You want to take her by the hair and do it. The main thing is your desires and your fire. I realized it long ago. The main thing is soft power. No hysteria and sheer brutality. You should use soft power and slowly break her will. Without violence. . so Ukrainians like me more than Polish women. They are more submissive to the male power. Especially this is manifested during sex. She must feel that inside you are a terrible hungry predator. It's okay if in the suites you press your excited dick to her pope when she will do something in the kitchen or talk to her girlfriend on the phone. And start to imitate the penetration. She can try to resist little. You do not necessarily have to do the same sex as written in books for guys from the USA or Canada. There is a long gentle foreplay. Long cunnilingus. All just for a woman. You have to understand that Ukrainians girls like animal beastly lust. She should feel yours bestial desire of the male. You want to fuck her. You want to shove your penis into her mouth. Do it. She should see your desire. Your standing as a stick dick. You can put it on your stomach and simulate a little sex. She will feel a hard cock in your pants and that's fine. Then you send her to the shower. Do not think that if she is a student of political science or philosophy, then this is what it means. She is primarily a Ukrainian woman. She should feel your power of the male. So give vent to your animal power. And do not think about when you should finish or like it or not. If you are captured by the fire of brutal animal passion, then the Ukrainian woman will also have a pleasure. When she comes out of the shower, then tear off her towel and throw it on the bed and throw it on her like a wild, crazy Arab guy from the desert. Turn her to the stomach and push her legs apart with a strong movement and when you put on a condom, then take her by the hair and go into it and put a few hard punches on the whole length of your dick. Then be sure to put her in the doggie position and show hard sex and masculine domination. You can slap her hand on the ass. But do not necessarily make a long marathon run. When you put her in the dog's position she will understand that you are the main and she is your female. It's only you and your bestial will to possess. She must feel it. In Ukraine and Russia this is a very popular position and it is like a signal and more than just a position. The woman is in the dog's pose and thus shows that she obeyed your will. Next you have to fuck hard her and do not be afraid that you seem too brutal. If you want to publish moans or other sounds then do it. You can call her name during a hard fuck. Grab her by the hair but do not hurt of course. When your pleasure reaches its peak you enter it even harder and deeper. Apply deep hard quick strokes. Do not think about its enjoyment but just be a wild animal. You will be surprised that she will look at you after sex as an all-new male. You can make her cunnilingus if you do this if she does not finish. You can not do this. As you decide yourself. The main thing you do not have to fuck the Western pattern and endlessly think about the pleasure of a woman. You have to understand that women in Ukraine enjoy that they feel your strength and your bestial desire. It is sometimes more important for them than gentle cunnilingus three hours in a row and kisses.

    You should be cheerful. Not very boring. Not very pedantic. But at the same time you must come from the fluids of masculinity and confidence. The latent fluids. You can suddenly lift it into the air and say-wow, you're such an airy girl. Like a feather.

    This is actually a brief observation.

    1) you should be cheerful. Not very boring. Not very pedantic. But at the same time you must come from the fluids of masculinity and confidence. The latent male fluids.

    2) she should feel yours bestial desire of the male. Put her during sex in doggy position. In Ukraine and Russia this is a very popular position and it is like a signal and more than just a position. The woman is in the dog's pose and thus shows that she obeyed your will. A woman here likes to feel the power of a male over her. Do not be afraid of hard sex and do not think too much about her pleasure or her orgasm. Before orgasm, fuck it even faster and more brutal. Do not be afraid to cover her body with sperm or even a face. Or chest.

    3) the main thing you do not have to fuck the Western pattern and endlessly think about the pleasure of a woman. You have to understand that women in Ukraine enjoy that they feel your strength and your bestial desire. She enjoys the fact that she submits to your strong will of the male. For her this is a real pleasure.

    4) avoid arrogance. Do not show contempt for her country and her people. Tell her that you are very fond of Ukrainians and Ukrainians and want the Ukraine to get out of a difficult situation. It is possible her father or elder brother fought in the east of Ukraine or serves in the army.

    5) the consciousness of Ukrainians has changed after the Maidan and the war and be cautious in saying. You should not compare Ukraine with Zimbabwe. You can think about it but do not need to say it.

    6) avoid rudeness and obvious humiliation. You need to let her feel that you are her great American friend. Give her the prospect of further relationships. She understands that this is a lie and you will not see her any more but her subconscious is calm. Yes, she works as a flower seller on the market for insignificant money 200 USD month for a Westerner, but she is also a human and not an animal. Dammit. You should not forget about it. You have to show her that she is an animal but only in bed. But not in everyday communication. A lot of guys from Turkey do not want to understand.

    7) after the rest and nice chatter and coffee, you can suddenly grab it and put it back in the position doggy and fuck it. Just put it in a pose. Put on a condom and again hard fuck it without stopping. The main spontaneity and your desire. Your desire is the only one the law for her-remember this. You just decided to fuck her again and just fucked her. That's all. Discard all the American patterns and stereotypes about sex. Just be an animal.

    8) during anal sex do not be immediately too rude. As a rule they then get used to and suffer some pain because they like very much money. But if she starts screaming and crying, stop it and calm her down.

    9) do not attach too much importance to what you say. Just tell yourself-a beautiful winter day in Kharkov. The snow falls and next to me a young Ukrainian lady. Do not think too much about the end result. Do not think to knock out the enemy but just have fun from boxing. It's like boxing. Enjoy the moments and have fun. Enjoy the moments and have fun. The girl will feel it. If you feel warm and pleasant then she will feel the comfort and your warmth.

  8. #178

    Where to begin

    Quote Originally Posted by OldMcDonald  [View Original Post]
    How did you get on in Kiev?

    I'm in the same boat, 27 Asian with no Ukrainian.

    Any pointers you could share?
    Gents,

    You need to read up on the psychology of Russian / Ukrainian women. First off no CIS girl ever approaches a guy: period. Pros will give you the look but even they will wait for you to make the first move. Second normal rules of dating / pick-up do not apply. If they sleep with you it's because:

    1. They need to pay the rent; and / or.

    2. You are a rich and successful enough man to justify such indulgence.

    These women do not think: do I fancy this man. They think is this man rich enough / successful enough for me to associate with him. Looking fit may reduce the price but they are not going to fall in.

    Love with you in a club. Time and again I've been told the flowing by girls I've hooked up with:

    A man's looks are irrelevant, what matters is:

    1. Will he take care of me?

    2. Does he love me?

    If these questions are answered in the affirmative then a girl will come to love you, be you fat, bald or old. For the avoidance of doubt I'm not lacking in the looks, height or fitness department but I can assure you that none of that has ever made very much difference. Being rich (in their eyes), kind and successful matter far more.

    Hope that assists.

  9. #177
    How did you get on in Kiev?

    I'm in the same boat, 27 Asian with no Ukrainian.

    Any pointers you could share?

    Quote Originally Posted by KushyKush  [View Original Post]
    How does it work picking up semi-pros at clubs like D'lux and Skybar? I'm 27, fairly fit and good looking Asian guy (although I look 20 years old and am only 5'4. Do girls just approach you to just chat? Do you approach the girl? How do you know if they are a semi-pro (working) or not? I've picked up at strip clubs before (not Kiev) and have mongered in the USA for sometime but the protocol is entirely different (usually straight escorts only). Also what is the prevalence of English of the girls in the clubs? I know zilch for Ukrainian (although I'm tempted to learn).

    Any tips would be appreciated thanks!

  10. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by ReinerOtto  [View Original Post]

    YOU are the man, so you have to be active then.
    Very very important in UA.

  11. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by KushyKush  [View Original Post]
    How does it work picking up semi-pros at clubs like D'lux and Skybar?
    Never been in these places, but in quite a few other discos all over UA.

    In short words: The pros might start to talk to you; the semis only signal their interest. Some eye contact in the beginning helps.

    For me, it worked best, just standing at bar, dance floor etc. Girl either came over to park her glas a few meters besides mine at the bar.

    Or dansed more or less close in front of me.

    YOU are the man, so you have to be active then.

    Of course, you can also park your glas besides the one of the beauty and stat to talk.

    Only be careful, not to upset her local "master" .

  12. #174

    Protocol / Etiquette and clubs

    How does it work picking up semi-pros at clubs like D'lux and Skybar? I'm 27, fairly fit and good looking Asian guy (although I look 20 years old and am only 5'4. Do girls just approach you to just chat? Do you approach the girl? How do you know if they are a semi-pro (working) or not? I've picked up at strip clubs before (not Kiev) and have mongered in the USA for sometime but the protocol is entirely different (usually straight escorts only). Also what is the prevalence of English of the girls in the clubs? I know zilch for Ukrainian (although I'm tempted to learn).

    Any tips would be appreciated thanks!

  13. #173

    Good info from all!

    Hey,

    I just read over most of the posts on the last few pages and seem to get a consensus of around $150 or so for 1 hour for takeout. Is this agreed upon in the club and including the bar fee? Does the agreed upon price vary per girl or per club or is it fairly standard throughout? For example takeout at Rio will always be 200/ hour and SG will be 150/ hour (I remember seeing a takeout price on the menu at SG). Or is that takeout price simply the bar fine and you have to pay the girl on top of that?

    I was in Kiev 1.5 years ago but didn't partake in any takeout. Looking to visit a few clubs including Rio / solid gold (was at solid gold 1.5 years ago and loved the ladies there). I have 3 Tinder girls lined up so hopefully that'll amount to something but we'll see.

    Will report back when I get back from each club (arriving there tomorrow and staying for 3 days).

    Thanks.

  14. #172
    LJ is lying about getting bbj from girls at RIO too, so many of his posts about RIO are just bullshit.

    Look how many hookers do bbj at gia.

    http://gia.la/

    The number of dancers who do bbj at RIO is much less than gia.

    If LJ is not a shill then he is just stupid, only a dumb loser would spend so much time writing all this bullshit and think RIO is his best option, what a fool.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barba  [View Original Post]
    LJ, I read the first three lines and had to stop. It is only you who don't understand. I will just come and hold your hand instead, LJ. I will help you to type even.

    You are the first to make it onto my block list ever here on ISG. Not because you are pathetic but because you are meaningless.

    I will not see your responses but I am sure they will be lengthy and verbose, aiming at defending your manhood for your fantasy mates here at ISG. Don't forget to mention RIO at least once a day here.

    Barba

  15. #171
    This is what Joey gets from the RIO girls:

    1- When you add the cost of his trip he is really paying over $450 for every meeting.

    2- I seriously doubt the majority of the dancers stay with him for the full 3 hours.

    3- I would say 9 out of every 10 dancer he takes home do not give him BBBJ, I also doubt the majority of the dancers would let him do DATY if he wants to.

    4- Joey is over 50, his trips are very short and he says every night he takes a dancer home, I doubt he fucks her more than one time.

    5- the majority of the time he is just talking to her.

    So, he is really paying over $450 for less than 3 hours for covered blow job and lots of talking, I guess Joey thinks this is great sex, its really dumb to fly over 24 hours just for this, LOL.

    Its interesting how an old man from NY takes so much time writing all these long posts pimping a night club and only travels to Kiev for RIO, LOL.

    Hey Joey, are sure you are not the old English teacher who gives English lessons to dancers at RIO?

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