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  1. #35

    Good option

    Quote Originally Posted by Golfinho  [View Original Post]
    Fly to Langkawi, then take the ferry over to Thailand.
    Thanks that seem like a good option.

  2. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by MakeItOrBreak  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for interesting reporting. How did you travel to Dannok? I will see if I can combine a visit to Penang seems quite accessible by car.
    Fly to Langkawi, then take the ferry over to Thailand.

  3. #33

    Danok for Aussie

    Quote Originally Posted by WildBillLewis  [View Original Post]
    After the disappoint of the night before with Ms Massage (and given that I could no longer stand the smell of the pillows at the SP Sweet Hotel), I went looking for a new hotel. Tried two rooms at the Paramount Palace: all manner of things didn't work, but the killer was the internet. Tried three rooms at the Oscar: all smelled of either smoke or oil paint. Decided to try the he Jia adjacent to the place where I met Ms Massage. And as I was walking toward it, who should I spy but Ms Massage. We renewed acquaintances and I was pleasantly surprised when that led to an afternoon session in my new room: no money involved. I was even more pleasantly surprised when the session turned out even better than our first encounter.
    One other point of note for mongers. I have been walking the streets of Dannok for three days now and I don't think I've seen another Caucasian. There are some Thai women who don't care for Caucasians. There are some who are indifferent. Then there are the Thai women who like and prefer Caucasians, which makes this a seller's market if you're Caucasian and can locate the buyers.
    Leaving tomorrow. But I'm sure glad I came.
    Have contemplated Danok but then scrubbed it off the list due to language problems and Western Food. Looking for side trip from KL. Thoughts about English speaking Aussie in Danok?

    Pro's. Close to KL, improving infrastructure, decent hotels, city set up for mongering, price reasonable.

    Con's. Language esp PRC's. Prefer to have at least conversation with provider, poor choices for Western food, Caucasian bias / smaller pool of available talent.

    Possibly PP, Jak, Phuket better options?

    Thoughts.

    Appreciate NI.

  4. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by MakeItOrBreak  [View Original Post]
    How did you travel to Dannok? I will see if I can combine a visit to Penang seems quite accessible by car.
    It's a quick drive from Penang, just a couple hours. But avoid trying to cross into Thailand from Friday afternoon through Saturday, or going back to Malaysia on Sunday through Monday morning. The immigration queues can be ridiculous.

    Dannok is a rough town, run by the Malaysian mafia. It pays to behave yourself and keep your wits about you. A lot of the girls there don't seem too happy with their lot and it's hard to blame them. Many of the hottest ones have regulars and so are not generally available. You also have to watch out for little scams in the clubs. But it's still possible to have a good time, and it definitely has the most to offer of all the Thai-Malaysia border towns.

  5. #31

    Danok Revisit

    Hye Guys,

    Me Daeng, an old Cheongster from KL, Danok (Sadao) seem so long time I haven't visit since my last posting. May be am a bit buzzy with Jakarta, Medan, Bandung and Surabaya visit.

    Nevertheless, well I shall visit Sadao again this weekend. One thing for sure am lost of the era. Need some back up info from you guys.

    Place to stay with happening area in walking distance and any mamasan shop for shopping.

    Thanks guys really appreciated.

    Daeng.

  6. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    สุวรรณภูมิ

    Yes it is really Suwanaphoom (in sound). It looks like you would pronounce it well from your English attempt. It seems to mean land of gold or Golden land. It is built on an area that was once called "hnong nguu hao", which means the "cobra marsh / swamp" LOL.

    ]
    Some just call the airport 'SWAMPY'.

  7. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    How about Suvarnabhumi? Should that have been 'Suewanapoom' or something like that?
    สุวรรณภูมิ

    Yes it is really Suwanaphoom (in sound). It looks like you would pronounce it well from your English attempt. It seems to mean land of gold or Golden land. It is built on an area that was once called "hnong nguu hao", which means the "cobra marsh / swamp" LOL.

    Feed the Thai script into Google Translate and you will hear how it sounds.
    https://translate.google.com.au/?hl=...B8%A1%E0%B8%B4

  8. #28

    Thank you for interesting reporting

    Quote Originally Posted by WildBillLewis  [View Original Post]
    After the disappoint of the night before with Ms Massage (and given that I could no longer stand the smell of the pillows at the SP Sweet Hotel), I went looking for a new hotel. Tried two rooms at the Paramount Palace: all manner of things didn't work, but the killer was the internet. Tried three rooms at the Oscar: all smelled of either smoke or oil paint. Decided to try the he Jia adjacent to the place where I met Ms Massage. And as I was walking toward it, who should I spy but Ms Massage. We renewed acquaintances and I was pleasantly surprised when that led to an afternoon session in my new room: no money involved. I was even more pleasantly surprised when the session turned out even better than our first encounter.

    So I booked her for the night: the massage shop mamasan might not have known about the afternoon tryst but she wasn't going to give one of her girls away free for the whole night. Strangely, I had the option of paying 350 ringitt for the night or 4,000 baht. Now 350 ringitt is roughly equivalent to 2,800 Thai baht. So of course I paid in Ringitt. Dannok being a border town, and with most of the punters coming from Malaysia, the local currency of preference is about evenly split between baht and ringitt, but many of the merchants seem to have trouble figuring out how to equate the two. In some hotels, you're better off (by 15-20%) paying in one currency. And in others it is the reverse. In the he Jia, for example, I could pay 750 baht or 120 ringitt (equivalent to 950 baht!) Very strange!

    I have now been in Dannok for three days and I have to say that I find it to be an impressive place in so many ways. The streets are all in good repair. Same with the sidewalks: Buenos Aires could learn a thing or two from the civic engineers in Dannok! Construction of new hotels seems to be booming. Even the police seem well-behaved: I saw one policeman with a Go-Pro-like device on his helmet. In some states in the southern USA, devices like that have had the effect of curbing abuses of authority by the police. Perhaps they will have a similar effect in Thailand: Lord knows Thailand could benefit from less police corruption.

    One other point of note for mongers. I have been walking the streets of Dannok for three days now and I don't think I've seen another Caucasian. There are some Thai women who don't care for Caucasians. There are some who are indifferent. Then there are the Thai women who like and prefer Caucasians, which makes this a seller's market if you're Caucasian and can locate the buyers.

    Leaving tomorrow. But I'm sure glad I came.
    Thank you for interesting reporting. How did you travel to Dannok? I will see if I can combine a visit to Penang seems quite accessible by car.

  9. #27

    Seller's market

    After the disappoint of the night before with Ms Massage (and given that I could no longer stand the smell of the pillows at the SP Sweet Hotel), I went looking for a new hotel. Tried two rooms at the Paramount Palace: all manner of things didn't work, but the killer was the internet. Tried three rooms at the Oscar: all smelled of either smoke or oil paint. Decided to try the he Jia adjacent to the place where I met Ms Massage. And as I was walking toward it, who should I spy but Ms Massage. We renewed acquaintances and I was pleasantly surprised when that led to an afternoon session in my new room: no money involved. I was even more pleasantly surprised when the session turned out even better than our first encounter.

    So I booked her for the night: the massage shop mamasan might not have known about the afternoon tryst but she wasn't going to give one of her girls away free for the whole night. Strangely, I had the option of paying 350 ringitt for the night or 4,000 baht. Now 350 ringitt is roughly equivalent to 2,800 Thai baht. So of course I paid in Ringitt. Dannok being a border town, and with most of the punters coming from Malaysia, the local currency of preference is about evenly split between baht and ringitt, but many of the merchants seem to have trouble figuring out how to equate the two. In some hotels, you're better off (by 15-20%) paying in one currency. And in others it is the reverse. In the he Jia, for example, I could pay 750 baht or 120 ringitt (equivalent to 950 baht!) Very strange!

    I have now been in Dannok for three days and I have to say that I find it to be an impressive place in so many ways. The streets are all in good repair. Same with the sidewalks: Buenos Aires could learn a thing or two from the civic engineers in Dannok! Construction of new hotels seems to be booming. Even the police seem well-behaved: I saw one policeman with a Go-Pro-like device on his helmet. In some states in the southern USA, devices like that have had the effect of curbing abuses of authority by the police. Perhaps they will have a similar effect in Thailand: Lord knows Thailand could benefit from less police corruption.

    One other point of note for mongers. I have been walking the streets of Dannok for three days now and I don't think I've seen another Caucasian. There are some Thai women who don't care for Caucasians. There are some who are indifferent. Then there are the Thai women who like and prefer Caucasians, which makes this a seller's market if you're Caucasian and can locate the buyers.

    Leaving tomorrow. But I'm sure glad I came.

  10. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Translation to English is always a fucking mess. For a start the English vowels are all wrong, and then they fuck with the consonants for no apparent reason.
    The V should always be a W since V sound does not exist in Thai.
    How about Suvarnabhumi? Should that have been 'Suewanapoom' or something like that?

  11. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by WildBillLewis  [View Original Post]
    Traipsing around the city, I've seen all three on signage. The more I look, the more it appears that Dannok is the consensus choice among locals, but I've also seen both Dan Nok and Danok on official signage. I'm sure most of the Thais don't care one way or another, but it is funny.
    Translation to English is always a fucking mess. For a start the English vowels are all wrong, and then they fuck with the consonants for no apparent reason.

    The V should always be a W since V sound does not exist in Thai.

    The letters J and CH often get switched. So Chao Phraya river actually sounds a like an English Jao Prayaa.

    Ex prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva actually sounds like "Up-pea-sit Wait-char-chee-wa". You can see the English lettering was not even slightly close.

    And you are right, the Thais just don't give a shit the English version on Thai names is made so confusing.

    I spelled Prachuap wrong because the Thai sounds like bra-juap.

    Thais are mispronouncing English words badly too which often throws me. Yesterday the Thai guy was trying to say Foot, however it sounded exactly like Food (including long vowel), so I really failed to grasp what he was getting at. If he had simply used the Thai word for Foot (Thaow) then no problem.

  12. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Google Maps comes up with 'Dan Nok Changwat Nakhon Ratchasima' which is northeast of Bangkok and 'Dannok Samnak Kham Changwat Songkhla' which is a border town in the south.

    So I suppose it's the latter where WildBillLewis is residing.
    Yes the later. You will see it is in Sadao district. When I went to Songkhla province 23 years ago there were very few Farangs there indeed.

  13. #23

    Danok, Dan Nok or Dannok

    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Google Maps comes up with 'Dan Nok Changwat Nakhon Ratchasima' which is northeast of Bangkok and 'Dannok Samnak Kham Changwat Songkhla' which is a border town in the south.

    So I suppose it's the latter where WildBillLewis is residing.
    Traipsing around the city, I've seen all three on signage. The more I look, the more it appears that Dannok is the consensus choice among locals, but I've also seen both Dan Nok and Danok on official signage. I'm sure most of the Thais don't care one way or another, but it is funny.

  14. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    It has to be two N's in fact, it should be two words Dan Nok (both words are pronounced long like this "Dahn Nawk" low and falling tones). You can see the double letter in the Thai script too although Thai has no space between words. LOL . If I was writing it in English script I would probably write Daan Noark. Can be translated into English as meaning "The Outpost"
    Google Maps comes up with 'Dan Nok Changwat Nakhon Ratchasima' which is northeast of Bangkok and 'Dannok Samnak Kham Changwat Songkhla' which is a border town in the south.

    So I suppose it's the latter where WildBillLewis is residing.

  15. #21

    Danegeld in Dannok

    Round Two with the massage girl ran into a road block in the form of a shop owner who refused to let her leave the shop without the payment of additional "danegeld". The plan had been for my friend to leave the shop when it closed supposedly at 4 am and come to my hotel room for 2,000 baht. The shop owner wanted 350 Ringitt. No way! I'the already given at the office during Round One.

    Still, I learned something from the experience that might be of interest to other mongers.

    I had gone out to meet my massage girl at 3:30 am. I went to a disco right across from her shop. It was still thumping. And at 3:30 am it was still packed with Malaysian mongers and Thai hookers. I'd say 70:30 in favour of the chicks. And it is probably that way still. I say this because it is now 7:15 am and the disco in my hotel (SP Sweet Hotel) is still pumping out the music. Their disco (Club 77) is on the ground floor and my room is on the 7th floor. I stopped in there at 6:30 and it was still jammed. In both places I was the only Caucasian. I didn't feel unwelcome or unsafe, but I definitely stood out from the crowd.

    I have been parts of Thailand that pretty much shut down after 1 am. Chiang Mai is notorious for this (e. G. , Zoe in Yellow). Yes, you can go to Mandalay Bay, but that shuts down at 4 am. Even Pattaya starts to run out of steam at around 5 am. But Dannok is still cranking (or at least it is tonight: Friday night) at 7:30 am.

    Pretty amazing, this Dannok.

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