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  1. #2509

    Business as usual in the Gypsy House

    Quote Originally Posted by KosherKowboy  [View Original Post]
    On my last trip to Paradise I spent basically 5 days with the adorable, appreciative and sweet kind hearted Gypsies. ... Nein Vashing.
    Meanwhile, if you've not already noticed, there's been some restoration on the home front. A good time perhaps to clear out old messages.

  2. #2508

    Business as usual in the Gypsy House

    On my last trip to Paradise I spent basically 5 days with the adorable, appreciative and sweet kind hearted Gypsies. They are nice to me, I am a stammgast there now. They are happy when I show up as they know I bring them gifts and that 600 e-700 e will get distributed to them over the course of several days. I am even getting to be friendly with a few of the locals who go there regularly, some I even see at the mainstream clubs now. Gypsies by day, Precious Princesses and Luci's by night.

    Not too much to report that is new at the Gypsy House. I missed Susi again but she says she will be there the end of the month, haven't fucked her in several month's now so looking forward to that. Sibel was also on holiday. Ramona is gone for the summer. Anna was her usual self, quite a busy bee and a fun one once she warms up to you as is the case with Elena. Elena sessions get better each time. I enjoyed the company of the entire Bulgarian Crew. Erika I always hang out with and of course Jessica. Desi is a very fun girl, she is growing on me fast. Nico is on probation and I haven't done her in a while since she went to a Nein Spritzing policy but I might do her next trip just because she sucks me off so well. Killed a little time getting to know Vanessa and she is a great girl for sure on the list to see next trip. Dana and Alizeh, still superstars, no one could go wrong with either of these two.

    Of all the new girls there I think only Diana and Desi are worth a spin. Wait times were never an issue, the flow of men in and out of the club was steady but not enough to fill the couches up. No one had any ques. As always, the Gypsies pleased, the visits are only getting better each time.

    I'll be back to see all my Queens in three weeks if anyone is going to be in the area I am always happy to sit and chat on a red couch.

    And finally, one of the Gypsies above took a 1-2 direct Swiss-American back to back hit. Nein Vashing.

  3. #2507
    Quote Originally Posted by BbfsOnly  [View Original Post]
    Tried that girl that does the amazing BJ, and yes, it was great.
    Likewise, fun conversations for sure. Want to trade home towns?

    Are we talking about the Gypsy I suggested you do who you sat next to or another girl I pointed out. Either way if it was the first one you sat next to she said you were a fine gentleman and enjoyed your company and thanked me for ' the reference. ' Unfortunately I do not think Gypsies offer up commissions, good luck to me on that one but they sure will accept any handout or gift. I am glad you enjoyed your afternoon at Day care.


  4. #2506

    It was nice meeting you Kosher!

    Quote Originally Posted by KosherKowboy  [View Original Post]
    The Sharks are hungry. 50 e offers not being rejected at all. I did two days this trip there and skipped Oase. I loved Sharks, when I mentioned to one of the girls if she would do BBBJ in the 50 room she looked at me like I was crazy. Well she is right, I am crazy, that is nothing new. But her answer was ' of course, we want the men to be happy' . Perhaps they have been instructed to suck cock bare, regardless it is BBBJ City all the way. I did 3 rooms for 50 each the first time there, no upselling, nada. As to the Asians I do not think they are paying anymore than others nor were the girls hustling them like I normally saw on past trips (unlike Mainhatten tonight) Each time I paid an Asian was also paying a girl, a 50 note like myself. In fact one girl I did (Amira) fucked an Asian right after I and he paid her 50 as his paybox was right next to mine and I was grabbing my smokes as he was paying. Same as I paid. But the best thing about Sharks was I was finally able to see my Queen Luci / Hanna for the first time since November or so. She got her usual 100 for the hour. I was able to cum in a condom too finally! I was so happy. I felt half my age when I walked out I was so thrilled. The last time I came in a condom successfully was last November, with Luci. I now have 3 weeks no Luci. I have now fucked her 4 times and blew in the rubber 3 of those times. I will miss her..
    Tried that girl that does the amazing BJ, and yes, it was great.

  5. #2505

    Police stopped by, did not enter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    Sharks as well, but to a much lesser extent for now. .
    The Sharks are hungry. 50 e offers not being rejected at all. I did two days this trip there and skipped Oase. I loved Sharks, when I mentioned to one of the girls if she would do BBBJ in the 50 room she looked at me like I was crazy. Well she is right, I am crazy, that is nothing new. But her answer was ' of course, we want the men to be happy' . Perhaps they have been instructed to suck cock bare, regardless it is BBBJ City all the way. I did 3 rooms for 50 each the first time there, no upselling, nada. As to the Asians I do not think they are paying anymore than others nor were the girls hustling them like I normally saw on past trips (unlike Mainhatten tonight) Each time I paid an Asian was also paying a girl, a 50 note like myself. In fact one girl I did (Amira) fucked an Asian right after I and he paid her 50 as his paybox was right next to mine and I was grabbing my smokes as he was paying. Same as I paid. But the best thing about Sharks was I was finally able to see my Queen Luci / Hanna for the first time since November or so. She got her usual 100 for the hour. I was able to cum in a condom too finally! I was so happy. I felt half my age when I walked out I was so thrilled. The last time I came in a condom successfully was last November, with Luci. I now have 3 weeks no Luci. I have now fucked her 4 times and blew in the rubber 3 of those times. I will miss her.

    Dietzenbach business as usual. The police showed up yesterday but did not come in, maybe it was the day before. It was either late morning or just after lunch and all of a sudden two Gyspies ran at lighting speed and locked the back door. No one fucked downstairs only upstairs. Two girls stood in the mens room on the toilets looking out those windows so the cops were parked in front of that industrial complex. Alice closed the front door as well so it was hot as fuck in there for 30 or 45 minutes. Not sure what they were doing there but they did not come in at all nor did they approach the gate and talk to Alice. I did a session while the police were outside. The Gypsy I was with was a little nervous so she took out a condom and unwrapped it and held in her hand while she blew me. She also fucked me in reverse cowgirl facing the door and had me hold the condom (unrolled) I am guessing so if they did open the door they couldn't actually see cock in pussy and with the unwrapped condom ' whoops, it slipped off'.

    Maybe they were just stopped there to make a point sort of a ' friendly reminder. ' Nothing came of it. But I came. In her pussy.

    I love Dietzenbach. I love the Gypsies (and Luci too).

  6. #2504
    Quote Originally Posted by KosherKowboy  [View Original Post]
    Did you make it there? As I suspected, take all the STD reports with grain of salt. Seems really ironic how the girls who do the best suddenly get a shit write up on the internet. The guy was full of shit. In fact the guy was the mode for the message to get out there, the starter of the BS was a girl in the house who was jealous whose name will not be revealed. Sorry, when told something in secret I keep my word. Same shit different day this goes on back home. Now same shit different day different country. Some things never change. Someone put that schmuck up to that. After two days of talks with the girls all confidential, one to two girls decided to try to kill another's biz. Bad apples in every crew, male and female. Some males are such pussies they will like a lost puppy dog do what their girls want them to. In this case, the fire has been put out.

    On the down side my first trip to Dietz was in a cool summer evening and many thru the fall and winter. It is like 80 in that club. Too fucking hot. Even in MX they have mini's in the room to cool them off and in the club itself. I'll be doing Dietz only in evenings thru the fall now. Can't fuck in a pool of sweat.

    But the selection is great, many to choose from, all good nice girls. Lots of Asians in the club too, met a great guy from Kyoto hung out with, showed me some of the Japanese posts on the message boards they have, the Japanese mongers are as sick of the upselling and attitudes in the Big 5 as well. This guy had a blast. I notice since my first trip (0 Asians) there are now 2-3 per day and growing. I think men around the world are picking up on the bullshit from the ' Sharky' girls throughout the area. His number one complaint was not the girls in ' Sharks' upselling but the minute one is rejected another comes over to harass him. They get sick of it. He told me one of them (his friend) complained to this guy who owns or manages Oase that he can not get a moment's peace and was going to tell his fellow countrymen on both Japanese and Chinese boards to avoid Oase.

    I'll be meeting that man from Osaka today at Sharks I think and in the evening we will go to Dietz if the Sharks misbehave. Enough of this shit. Our way or the highway. Fight fire with fire. Sock them in the gut, right in the pocketbooks. They want to play games than I will get a massage eat well and than me and the man from Osaka will go blow our loads in Gypsies. I will give the Sharks my offers, they can accept nut any counter offers will be met with ' Fuck you' and I move on. My order will be what is called in the markets ' A fill or kill' which means if not accepted order dead. Get lost your greedy XXXX, on to the next. If they accept my offer and ask me for a tip they are off the list next time. Time to put the foot down. If ten girls tell me to hit the road great, I will. A numbers game, someone will accept. And of course I have a few 50 and 100 regs can hop on but I want variety today. Maybe.

    This man was very nice and I think the fact I saw 0-1 Asians in Dietz last summer and now 2-4 a day speaks wonders to the poor attitudes and behavior of the greedy cunts in other clubs. Japan is not on my list (yet) but if I go he has some underground clubs (AO) he knows of but he told me he wanted to AO white girls.
    Interesting post. It backs up what I've seen: Oase is full of Asian hunters, overpaying guests and upselling (heard more shit about it last night). Sharks as well, but to a much lesser extent for now. It's ironic because on balance, Oase is much harder to get to and they can't afford this. I think they think they can due to the name, and the overproportional regulars from Italy that go there nomatter what.

    Furthermore, yes, the Japanese are actually the most similar to us in terms of mongering. I noticed this in the Phillipines and Thailand. They've been coming for quite a while, hate the way the newly rich other Asians (Koreans and Chinese) ruin the market.

    In terms of your approach to the upselling, I'm with you. Just say no.

  7. #2503

    STD rumors as expected garbage, Asians now coming to visit the Gypsies too

    Quote Originally Posted by MrCrankyPants  [View Original Post]
    I apologize for derailing the fun with my question, fellas. Thank you for all of your perspectives.

    Hopefully, someone will jump in with a report, and we'll get back on track. Perhaps it will even be mine.

    MCP.
    Did you make it there? As I suspected, take all the STD reports with grain of salt. Seems really ironic how the girls who do the best suddenly get a shit write up on the internet. The guy was full of shit. In fact the guy was the mode for the message to get out there, the starter of the BS was a girl in the house who was jealous whose name will not be revealed. Sorry, when told something in secret I keep my word. Same shit different day this goes on back home. Now same shit different day different country. Some things never change. Someone put that schmuck up to that. After two days of talks with the girls all confidential, one to two girls decided to try to kill another's biz. Bad apples in every crew, male and female. Some males are such pussies they will like a lost puppy dog do what their girls want them to. In this case, the fire has been put out.

    On the down side my first trip to Dietz was in a cool summer evening and many thru the fall and winter. It is like 80 in that club. Too fucking hot. Even in MX they have mini's in the room to cool them off and in the club itself. I'll be doing Dietz only in evenings thru the fall now. Can't fuck in a pool of sweat.

    But the selection is great, many to choose from, all good nice girls. Lots of Asians in the club too, met a great guy from Kyoto hung out with, showed me some of the Japanese posts on the message boards they have, the Japanese mongers are as sick of the upselling and attitudes in the Big 5 as well. This guy had a blast. I notice since my first trip (0 Asians) there are now 2-3 per day and growing. I think men around the world are picking up on the bullshit from the ' Sharky' girls throughout the area. His number one complaint was not the girls in ' Sharks' upselling but the minute one is rejected another comes over to harass him. They get sick of it. He told me one of them (his friend) complained to this guy who owns or manages Oase that he can not get a moment's peace and was going to tell his fellow countrymen on both Japanese and Chinese boards to avoid Oase.

    I'll be meeting that man from Osaka today at Sharks I think and in the evening we will go to Dietz if the Sharks misbehave. Enough of this shit. Our way or the highway. Fight fire with fire. Sock them in the gut, right in the pocketbooks. They want to play games than I will get a massage eat well and than me and the man from Osaka will go blow our loads in Gypsies. I will give the Sharks my offers, they can accept nut any counter offers will be met with ' Fuck you' and I move on. My order will be what is called in the markets ' A fill or kill' which means if not accepted order dead. Get lost your greedy XXXX, on to the next. If they accept my offer and ask me for a tip they are off the list next time. Time to put the foot down. If ten girls tell me to hit the road great, I will. A numbers game, someone will accept. And of course I have a few 50 and 100 regs can hop on but I want variety today. Maybe.

    This man was very nice and I think the fact I saw 0-1 Asians in Dietz last summer and now 2-4 a day speaks wonders to the poor attitudes and behavior of the greedy cunts in other clubs. Japan is not on my list (yet) but if I go he has some underground clubs (AO) he knows of but he told me he wanted to AO white girls.

  8. #2502

    Myrrh's little boy story

    A couple years ago, Myrrh posted a story in the AO forum that seems on point here.

    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...-and-Chat-Area!&p=1898589&viewfull=1#post1898589.

    The moral of the story: Be careful about trying to copy the big boys.

  9. #2501
    I am sure you heard the expression "the economy is in a recession when your neighbor loses his job, and it is a depression when you lose yours".

    A rip on that here will be "it is an acceptable risk if a fellow monger contacts an STD. It is a disaster if you do".

  10. #2500
    I apologize for derailing the fun with my question, fellas. Thank you for all of your perspectives.

    Hopefully, someone will jump in with a report, and we'll get back on track. Perhaps it will even be mine.

    MCP.

  11. #2499
    Quote Originally Posted by Strikesfun  [View Original Post]
    I do not want to cause a shit storm but this detail about how bad BB is easy to solve. This is no different lets say you do not ride a motorcycle because of the risk to crash than you do not ride a motorcycle. If you are worried about ST BB do not do it. A real safe solution do not to go to an FKK and then there is nothing to worry about. Simple.
    This response is posted quite frequently. It is the most useless response.

    When a poster asks about the risk that might be involved in driving to work, the poster is actually seeking information on the likelihood of an accident. It is not helpful to such a person interested in acquiring more data to tell them, "Well, if you're asking, just don't drive to work. ".

    I know it is tiresome for some forum users reading these sorts of repetitive questions, but the only thing more annoying than reading these sorts of repetitive questions is having to read through useless responses like, "Well, just don't drive your car then!

    A person asking about driving risks clearly already knows that they can simply not drive to work. Such a person is really seeking more data about frequency of accidents involved in such activities.

  12. #2498
    Quote Originally Posted by Max#01  [View Original Post]
    At the risk of this turning into a medical discussion, I did find a pretty good chart from the British Columbia Center for Disease Control. Because this is an issue for all of us, including the ladies, I decided to include it as a downloadable attachment. KK is correct. There is a varying amount of time between exposure and when it would show up on a test. There's also another column showing symptoms (if any) and when they likely would appear. So, there is certainly a risk, although somewhat reduced, because of the medical checks and testing required in Germany. I would never do AO in the US with someone outside of a monogamous relationship. I think another good benchmark is that porn actors and actresses have to have a test within two weeks of performing bareback.
    This is a recurring question, and I believe the following is the best estimate that's been posted in response. So I'll repeat it.

    Yes, I'm only addressing HIV here. It is by far the most common *fatal* STD that can't be cured, but only controlled. But the principles below can be used with other diseases too if you look up the base statistics.

    In that regard what seems to be often forgotten is that you have to multiply the probability of transmission with the probability of encountering an infected partner. That calculation significantly lowers the overall probability.

    HIV rate among female German sex workers = 0.2% or 0.002 (20 in 10,000).

    See page 14: https://ecdc.europa.eu/sites/portal/...ex-workers.pdf.

    HIV transmission rate for vaginal sex, female to male = 0.04% or 0.0004 (4 in 10,000).

    https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/estimat...behaviors.html

    The probability of becoming infected via vaginal sex with a random sex worker in Germany.

    = 0.002 * 0.0004 = 0.0000008 = 0.00008% (8 in 1,000,000).

    To put that in perspective it's more likely you could flip a coin and get 20 heads in a row than contract HIV from a random sex worker in Germany.

    Put another way, if you had vaginal sex every day for 20 years with a different random sex worker in Germany your probability of HIV infection would be 0.00584.

  13. #2497
    Quote Originally Posted by Strikesfun  [View Original Post]
    I do not want to cause a shit storm but this detail about how bad BB is easy to solve. This is no different lets say you do not ride a motorcycle because of the risk to crash than you do not ride a motorcycle. If you are worried about ST BB do not do it. A real safe solution do not to go to an FKK and then there is nothing to worry about. Simple.
    Full disclosure: I accept the risks when I visit Germany because of the increased medical coverage of the workers and because it's how sex between consenting adults out to be. What was missing from the Canadian chart was the likelihood of catching an STI in the first place. For any given encounter, it must be pretty low or we would all be dead by 19.

  14. #2496
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    I not so long ago did multiple sessions with a girl who was reported on a forum to be infected. It turns out the information was wrong. However this same girl got infected at another time and no members of any forum knew about it (she took a "holiday". Just shows we need to take what is written on forums with a pinch of salt.
    Or maybe a bucket of salt. Per somebody much more in the know one of the girls being discussed is collecting crumpled up greasy 20' 10 and 5's as we speak. Name probably (possibly) tossed out their erroneously in the first place. As you have noted sex with many strangers is not a fairy tale. Always good to know the dangers of this game. Always good to enjoy the pleasures of this game. But only we as individuals can do the old risk / reward thing in our minds.

    I will ring the buzzer in another week or two with an unlimited supply of my Invisible Condoms ready to see my favorite Gypsies and some new ones I see working.

  15. #2495
    Quote Originally Posted by MrCrankyPants  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your honesty! Your voice has been the most prolific in this forum, so your expertise and opinions hold weight with me.

    This is good information, and at just the right time. As I will be there in just 3 days, I may not have, as you say, enough time to wait for the storm to pass. In those cases, it's probably best advised to get myself a raincoat.

    Keep us all updated if you hear any more. Thanks and cheers.

    MCP.
    To elaborate a bit on KK's helpful advice. I do not think that forum reports of infection can be much use (except to remind us of general risks). Firstly they are anecdotal (I know of one guy who made up reports of getting HIV from an apartment girl).Secondly there is no info on which girls might be the source of infection. Thirdly, a girl could be infected by a guy anytime just before you go to a room with her and not show up as infected. Fourthly a girl known to be infected will not be working.Fifth, you might or might not be susceptible to that particular strain of infection.

    I not so long ago did multiple sessions with a girl who was reported on a forum to be infected. It turns out the information was wrong. However this same girl got infected at another time and no members of any forum knew about it (she took a "holiday". Just shows we need to take what is written on forums with a pinch of salt.

    Whatever you do, enjoy.

    If you are worried then ask the girl (in a diplomatic sensitive way!) I have often been surprised how much information they will share in order to reassure a customer.

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