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  1. #435
    At steve.

    I can't agree with you more. Hcm is a place if you like to play the long game. If you are in for a short span of time and want to get more bang for the buck then this is not a place for you. The good thing I enjoy about this place is the regular girls will block you the moment you talk about any money transaction. The think is extremely insulting. One of the girls got upset when I gave her money to cover her ride back to her home from bue vein street.

    The online scene is good if you have time. Else give this city a miss. The working girls are all scammers.

    G.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveW  [View Original Post]
    I don't have much new to say I'm afraid, but here goes. I had a couple of nights in Saigon. Ahead of my visit I tried the social apps (Date in Asia and Badoo) but found them all too onerous for a quick stop-over, good if you're spending a week there and can afford to take these chicks out for coffee, shopping etc but no good if you're going to be in-and-out of Saigon. I checked out Bui Vien and the bars at Pasteur Street (Corner Bar etc). Please note, there is a road called Pasteur, ignore that and look up the bar name, totally different areas. Anyway, these are hostess places and simply there to make money from lady drinks etc I didn't get the sense that you could pick your lady and off you go. Totally pointless business model if you ask me. Anyway, the two places for pick ups turned out to be Lush and Apocalypse. Lush was bare, it was mid-week and not worth even a beer. Apocalypse was more populated (midnight onwards) and well set up to meet a lady and take away. The problem was that quality was low. Mostly 5's IMHO. Anyway, I took one for the team so that I could write something up. Negotiations start at US $150 for ST, on a quiet week night that's quite high for Vietnam, I think. The ladies are geared up for entertaining Koreans and Japanese spending money on drinks that are laid out on the table, I guess they get a cut. Anyway, I managed to get a passable 6 and negotiated 2 m VND for 3 hrs, she wanted 3 m for 2 hours. I had to walk away, but she came back after 30 minutes or so to negotiate. Took her back to my hotel apartment, no problems getting in. I think a hotel would have been difficult. Service was surprisingly good, ass licking, good BBBJ, massage, rinse and repeat.

    I visited Hanoi, that was pretty dry and no luck. Few guys on scooters offering to take you somewhere, too high risk for me. The Nang had an expat bar with some FLs, but quality too low to even try. Overall, Vietnam is not a great destination for a quick in-and-out, but I can see the prospects for a longer stay, given some patience. However, this is a P4 P forum. Not a dating and wife-finding mission, so I have to mark Vietnam as pretty low down on the hobby spectrum. YMMV of course.

    Good luck in your endeavours!

    Cheers, SW.

  2. #434

    Brief stop over in Saigon / the Nang / Hanoi

    I don't have much new to say I'm afraid, but here goes. I had a couple of nights in Saigon. Ahead of my visit I tried the social apps (Date in Asia and Badoo) but found them all too onerous for a quick stop-over, good if you're spending a week there and can afford to take these chicks out for coffee, shopping etc but no good if you're going to be in-and-out of Saigon. I checked out Bui Vien and the bars at Pasteur Street (Corner Bar etc). Please note, there is a road called Pasteur, ignore that and look up the bar name, totally different areas. Anyway, these are hostess places and simply there to make money from lady drinks etc I didn't get the sense that you could pick your lady and off you go. Totally pointless business model if you ask me. Anyway, the two places for pick ups turned out to be Lush and Apocalypse. Lush was bare, it was mid-week and not worth even a beer. Apocalypse was more populated (midnight onwards) and well set up to meet a lady and take away. The problem was that quality was low. Mostly 5's IMHO. Anyway, I took one for the team so that I could write something up. Negotiations start at US $150 for ST, on a quiet week night that's quite high for Vietnam, I think. The ladies are geared up for entertaining Koreans and Japanese spending money on drinks that are laid out on the table, I guess they get a cut. Anyway, I managed to get a passable 6 and negotiated 2 m VND for 3 hrs, she wanted 3 m for 2 hours. I had to walk away, but she came back after 30 minutes or so to negotiate. Took her back to my hotel apartment, no problems getting in. I think a hotel would have been difficult. Service was surprisingly good, ass licking, good BBBJ, massage, rinse and repeat.

    I visited Hanoi, that was pretty dry and no luck. Few guys on scooters offering to take you somewhere, too high risk for me. The Nang had an expat bar with some FLs, but quality too low to even try. Overall, Vietnam is not a great destination for a quick in-and-out, but I can see the prospects for a longer stay, given some patience. However, this is a P4 P forum. Not a dating and wife-finding mission, so I have to mark Vietnam as pretty low down on the hobby spectrum. YMMV of course.

    Good luck in your endeavours!

    Cheers, SW.

  3. #433

    My reports so far

    Greetings.

    I landed in Saigon early morning with a booking at the Rex hotel. As the room was not ready until noon I decided to try the spa on the 5th floor of th Rex.

    Spa Rex: 2. 5 hour package.

    There were only 2 girls working so early in the morning so I chose the one with gkasss. The massage was very good. With hot stones etc. They even had a jacuzzi in the room and she filled it with rose petals.

    But I tried to get a happy ending and she just wouldn't do it. Finally she gave in and can you imagine how much she wanted for a handjob. 200 usd. I was like wtf. The negotiations continued for the rest hour and a bit. Which was so irritating. Finally I told her I don't need it. I have pretty good hands myself. She would try to convince me and her final price was 50 $. I still didn't budge. Then she came down to 30 when it was almost time and and when I still didn't budge she threw the dummy and just left.

    Later in the evening.

    Street cyclist: on bue vein street al.

    My friend and myself decided to head out to bue vein street for drinks in the evening and after a few drinks while we were walking we we approached by a cyclist mammasan who offered us girls for 1 M for 1 HR. We wanted to see the fare. The deal was pay 500 k now and the rest to the girl. We followed him a short distance to the end of bue vein where YOLO club is. And waited in the sidewalk he made a few calls and within minutes about 6-8 motorbikes arrived with hot looking girls 7-9 on the pillion. We chose our girls and headed back to our hotel.

    FYI Rex hotel will not allow girls back to the room after 10 pm unless you pay a surcharge of 30 $. We agreed and took our girls to the hotel.

    In the room my girl would not give me a BJ unless I tipped her extra. And she wanted 500 k for a tip. I felt that the hotel we are staying is creates a false pricing model. I didn't bother negotiating and said I don't need a BJ. But as there was no teasing and it was mechanical I took ages to come. She complained it was hurting. I have to admit she was extremely tight. It took a while to enter and once I was in I was a bit rough also. She started with wot and then doggy and finally mish. Both doggy and mish was super rough. I had her legs way back near her shoulders as I supported it with my hands under her thigh. She did let out a tear when I was doing her. I didn't care. I finally finished and she took her hand to check on her health and well-being of her pussy which I thought was really funny. All in order she screamed out a few explitives in her language and took her things and went to the toilet. I tipped her 150 k she wanted more. I just showed her the door. Guys I am a nice guy if they are nice too. I hate to be taken for a ride.

    Day two and day three were an amazing success with badoo. I had 1 girl who worked as a hairdresser and was fantastic in bed. The only issue was to get her to agree to get on the bed. We had lunch and then some wine and I bought her a top from top shop in Saigon centre. Once she agreed she even agreed for me to take pictures of her posing nude on the couch. What a transformation. Unfortunately I will not be able to share her number as she is not a worker. No money exchanged. 22 y hot as hell. /.

    Another one was a preschool teacher who had a craving for sea food. I took her to Nara Thai in Saigon centre and got her a perfume as gift. She wanted a pair of sunglasses so we bought one in on of the shops there. She ordered as if all the fish were going extinct and ate tiger prawns with her two hands. I asked her if she could wait in it room as I had to dial in to a conference call. She was a bit afraid. I had to convince her I will be nice. She agreed and while I was attending to the call she was in the bathroom brushing her teeth and cleaning up. She came back and we cuddled and she would go like I don't like this at the same time had her hands wrapped around me. This was extremely arousing for me. We moved to the bed and I continued to have my hands under her top and she would keep saying you can do anything but no sex. Deal. I took her top off and her skirt and she was in a pair of skimpy panties and bra. I too stripped down to my boxers. I began with teasing her nipples and she would arch her pussy against me obviously getting horny. I felt her pussy from the outside of her panties and she was as wet as a swamp. Bingo. I slipped it off and she said. Please don't please don't at the same time she would help it slide off. I moved down and kissed her clit and then slowly sucked and licked. She yelled out in pleasure. She said she has never experienced it before. She must have cummed at least thrice on my tongue and finger manipulation. She used her feet to play with my dick. I freed it from the confines of my boxers and I tried to tempt her to a BBBJ but but she wouldn't. She whispered to me if I have a condom and then said to herself: I should not do this. No no. I put the rubber on and played on the outside of her pussy. She helped it in and it was tighter than the hairstylist. It wouldn't go even though she was wet. She grimaced and let out a huge ooo when I thrust it with 1 push. She was a moaner. I didn't try any other position other than mish as she was super tight and I was enjoying being in control. Finished and showered together. I noticed red patches around her nipples and asked her what was that and she said she usually has that when she has an orgasm. It disappeared in a while. A woman's anatomy amazes me.

    We headed off to bue vein and had a few drinks and I dropped her off as she stayed close to Rex hotel. No money exchanged. 23 y typical next door kinda girl. No make up.

    More to follow. Note for mongers.

    Badoo is great. Subscribe for premium.

    We chat are full of hookers and a few may be scams.

    Enjoy.

    G.

  4. #432
    Quote Originally Posted by Paradiseme  [View Original Post]
    Could somebody help me with this. I met a girl HCM. I then found her pics on Thiendia Vietnam HCM. Could not translate. What service does Thiendia provide? The picture was her sitting in a room with 3 other girls dressed in? Any help would be great.
    Can you share her pics?

  5. #431

    Met a girl HCM. Then found her pics later on Thiendia.

    Could somebody help me with this. I met a girl HCM. I then found her pics on Thiendia Vietnam HCM. Could not translate. What service does Thiendia provide? The picture was her sitting in a room with 3 other girls dressed in? Any help would be great.

  6. #430
    Quote Originally Posted by Deaky  [View Original Post]
    Link didn't work. Maybe they shutdown? I have been using www.avovietnam.com with some success. No one has asked me for money yet, but def a few single moms.
    Banh mi in Viet is the word for bread and as an extension means sandwich are you sure the spelling is correct?

  7. #429
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Would someone please give me a translation for references to CIA / alo /"second hole".

    Does this refer to oral or anal?

    Thanks.
    CIA = cum in "alo".

    "Alo" is the Vietnamese "Hello," when they answer phone, from French influence, thus CIA = CIM (cum in mouth).

    Cheers,

  8. #428

    Translation

    Would someone please give me a translation for references to CIA / alo /"second hole".

    Does this refer to oral or anal?

    Thanks.

  9. #427

    My Experiences in Vietnam.

    I have posted previously in The Philippine section as that has been my preferred area to travel. First I am not someone who enjoys bar girls and say that in my profiles. I also say that I am not interested in young girls. I previously had traveled to Vietnam a couple years ago but toured with my daughter so other than sneaking out for one massage with an overpriced bad BBBJ did not have an opportunity to meet anyone. In fact I had no interest in visiting Vietnam but my daughter bought me the ticket so what's a man to do? We traveled by planes. Trains, automobiles, and busses from Hanoi to Ho Chi Minh City and I was hooked. The infrastructure in Vietnam is better than the Philippines, the hotels are less expensive, and the food is delicious.

    I came back just before Christmas after having invested a lot of time in the online dating sites. I used a hotel in HCM as my jump off spot. I am in my 60's and found that compared to the Philippines, you need a lot more game to establish contacts in Vietnam. I know that most here prefer twenty year olds, but that is not my preference. We are fishing in different ponds. I used DIA and AsianDating.com which is a paid site and established several contacts. I am more interested in the pretext of a date without promising anything more, than mongering. I kept my itinerary open so they did not know when I would be back in HCM or where I would be at any given time.

    The first woman I met was a single mother about 40 years old. She picked me up at my hotel on her scooter and she gave me a bit of a tour of the city then took me to a very nice place to eat. She was clearly proud of her city and happy to show it off. But that is where it ended. While we enjoyed our time together she clearly was not going to allow things to progress further at that time. In fact when we had chatted online we talked about going to Hoi An together. During our chats I cautioned her to ensure she knew what she was getting into as far a sleeping arrangements. She thanked me and said she had not thought of that. lol. She was clearly very naive and inexperienced. This never became an issue as while I was there she was in the process of changing jobs so could not get time off from her work.

    The next lady I met was 50. Yes I know but as I said we all fish in different ponds. She was still quite attractive and very trim with with a body most twenty year olds would be envious of. She was employed with a good job, and divorced many years ago with no children. We met mid morning and spent the day together seeing some sites. As it turned out I knew more touristy places to visit than she did so I reversed the role with her and became her tour guide. She told me that it had been many years since she spent the day smiling and enjoying herself as she did that day. After our day together it was back to my room. I had booked the room for two people. There were no questions asked when she arrived with me. As I recall they did not even ask her for her ID. In the room she showered and came out of the bathroom in her nightie and panties. She clearly came prepared. The panties were removed and what followed was a very nice round of DATY and an outstanding BBBJ then a very nice slow BB CIP round. After awhile I tried to move her to the top, but as we were rolling over and she was on her side she frantically got her hips moving and finished me off. During our conversation after she told me that at our age she thought once a week was enough LOL. The next morning I put her in a taxi and told her I was traveling to Cambodia. Based on our conversations, she is mainly looking for a visa as much as anything.

    I then contacted a 43 or 44 year old woman I had chatted with from Nha Trang. She and I had previously Skyped somewhat explicitly so I knew what I was getting into. She was divorced with a twenty two year old daughter who still lives with her and said she had not had a boyfriend in ten years. She met me at my hotel in Nha Trang and we went out on her motor bike for dinner then back to my room. She has a great body and she knew how to use it. Again BBBJ and BB with CIP. We spent three days together dodging Russians but when we were in the room she spent her time with her lips wrapped around what she called her ice cream.

    I went back to HCM, spent the night with the second lady then in fact departed for Cambodia.

    When I came back to HCM I flew to the Nang and again met the lady from Nha Trang. We went on to Hoi An and spent three days together. I paid for our hotel room up to the day that I departed but she said she would stay as her daughter was going to meet her there. I left her with airfare and again went back to HCM. As it turned out she used the funds I left her for airfare to extend her stay at the hotel and then took a bus home with her daughter. It was a very comfortable hotel with two swimming pools and again there was no question of her staying with me as I had booked for two.

    When I came back to HCM I met the second lady again and we took a bus to Can Tho for a couple days. Again she showered but by now I had convinced her that she did not need panties under her nightie when she was sleeping lol. She had the interesting phobia of cleaning the wet spot before we slept. I did not feel she had a lot of passion, but she never refused my advances and was certainly skilled and surprisingly tight and gave some of the best BBBJ I have ever had.

    We traveled back to HCM and we each went our own way. I thought I would spend the last few days relaxing before my flight home. In fact I messaged the first lady I had met and we got together after she finished work that day. She came to my room and showered so I thought maybe yes this time. We went for a meal and she dropped me at my room again. LOL Oh well it was a pleasant evening.

    No sooner had she left than the lady from Nah Trang messaged me, said she had just finished her period, and asked if I would like her to take the bus to meet me in HCM. The next morning she arrived, showered and was in my bed enjoying her ice cream again. Likely one of the most passionate women I have been with. We spent a three more days together doing tourist things, then I flew her home again. Unfortunately she is really looking for a husband so that has been a bit problematic to let her down easily as I have kept in touch with all of them since my return.

    I did have an opportunity to meet another woman from Can Tho that I had chatted with but was not really attracted to her and was not able to fit her into my schedule.

    So the reality is that the dating sites do work with Vietnamese women as long as you have patience, and are able to politely get the point across about what you are looking for. Since I returned I have chatted with others and am hoping to add some new ladies for my next trip. I have spoken to one 28 year old who has made it clear that she will meet but expects to be financially rewarded.

  10. #426
    Quote Originally Posted by MikHcmc  [View Original Post]
    This thread is dedicated to finding companionship using the internet.

    Theres plenty of ways to get escorts / hookers / callgirls whatever you want to call them via the internet and VN is not alone.

    Feel free to post up your information.

    Wechat and Zalo. These are smart phone apps that searches other users withing a few kms radius of your location / cell tower.

    http://www.banhmy.us This is quite a popular site now esp for the locals.
    Link didn't work. Maybe they shutdown? I have been using www.avovietnam.com with some success. No one has asked me for money yet, but def a few single moms.

  11. #425

    My VN Experience

    All SIM cards in VN have to be registered. If you register a card you have to show your passport and they know your identity and can monitor all your SMSes. When you message these girls, you are leaving evidence that can be used to make all kinds of problems for you.

    I spend about 2 months / year in VN (hanoi and Haiphong). You do not need to register SIMS, whether you buy at the airport or buy from a vendor in the city. No problem, no questions, no passport. Just be sure to get a SIM that has a lot of text messaging and data time, you will talk on the phone very little. No one monitors your phone.

    I do agree with the OP, privacy in Vn is slim. And the Vn will ask you straight out about your salary, house, etc. And they do like to talk about it (I can usually tell when they are talking about me, and I usually laugh hard when they do this). Nope, I don't speak much VN.

    I use a number of apps to find girls: Badoo, WeChat, WhatsApp, Zalo, Tagged. I have not used the all VN websites, but google translate seems to translate them fine to navigate. I never get a girl off the street, just not my style. But, I'm happy and my balls are empty when I leave the country.

    In terms of hotels, the places in the north have NO problem with you keeping a Vn girl overnight (I stay at smaller, boutique places, not places like the Sheraton). In HCMC, I have had problems keeping them past 10 pm. But there are places that allow that (but unless you have a tip, they may be a challenge to find, I don't know any of them at this time).

    People say Vn is bad for mongering, I have not found that to be true. And I'm old, fat and bald but they do love western guys.

    GG.

  12. #424
    Thanks Rick. I can deal with my paranoia on this site by using a VPN. No VPNs for phoning, are there?

    I don't know anything about roaming with a Cambodia SIM, spoof numbers, Skype, etc. One key consideration is that it has to be easy and cheap for the girl to reply. She can send an SMS to a VN SIM for, I think, 200 to 300 dong, maybe it costs her much more to respond to a roaming Cambodia SIM or spoof number? I have to research spoof numbers. You want to make it easy and cheap for her to reply.

    So I suspect that the unregistered SIM is the best answer. The only question is how long can you use it before it is blocked? Are some mobile companies less likely to block it than others? A travel agent implied to me that VietnamMobile's SIMs might not get blocked.

    As for the nobody cares argument, I hope you're right, but that can change in future. If they want to crack down on "sex tourists" and deny them visas, they will have all the evidence they need.

    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]
    You can get a sim card without registration all over Vietnam. You can also get roaming sims from Cambodia, sims registered to other people, spoof numbers, use Skype with a paid number, etc. , etc. , etc. There are countless work arounds. Besides that, no one cares if you have sex with prostitutes honestly. There are whole streets filled with prostitutes every day of the year right out in the open in the middle of Hanoi and HCMC. No one is monitoring your phone usage in Vietnam. No one is watching to see if you have sex with a local.

    There's no privacy in Vietnam. It's not the kind of country you should go to if you're looking for privacy or free speech. You won't find that anywhere in this part of the world.

    If you're that paranoid you shouldn't even be on this website. It has nudity and porn is illegal in Vietnam.

  13. #423
    Quote Originally Posted by OldNewGuy  [View Original Post]
    How can you say no to this? Memorable experiences come with a price.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldNewGuy  [View Original Post]
    She has invested much on herself but I won't be crow founding that. And, I don't like silicone at all.
    FWIW you might be getting in with her before the surgery, if she's trying to save up for the silicone.

    Also, my VN gal had her boobs done but the work is so good they feel and taste natural to me. She doesn't feel the pleasure when I suck, but she does when I go down to the non surgically repaired why.

    YMMV of course.

  14. #422
    Quote Originally Posted by OldNewGuy  [View Original Post]
    How can you say no to this?
    Pretty easily.

    I would say: "I pay one eighth that price for better looking women. No thanks. ".

  15. #421
    Quote Originally Posted by PhoBoGa  [View Original Post]
    Long time lurker here and VN resident. I'm intrigued by Kynu, thiendia, etc. But have concerns regarding privacy.

    All SIM cards in VN have to be registered. If you register a card you have to show your passport and they know your identity and can monitor all your SMSes. When you message these girls, you are leaving evidence that can be used to make all kinds of problems for you.

    Please share info about how you deal with this issue. Thanks.
    You can get a sim card without registration all over Vietnam. You can also get roaming sims from Cambodia, sims registered to other people, spoof numbers, use Skype with a paid number, etc. , etc. , etc. There are countless work arounds. Besides that, no one cares if you have sex with prostitutes honestly. There are whole streets filled with prostitutes every day of the year right out in the open in the middle of Hanoi and HCMC. No one is monitoring your phone usage in Vietnam. No one is watching to see if you have sex with a local.

    There's no privacy in Vietnam. It's not the kind of country you should go to if you're looking for privacy or free speech. You won't find that anywhere in this part of the world.

    If you're that paranoid you shouldn't even be on this website. It has nudity and porn is illegal in Vietnam.

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