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[Newton York]

I was in Pattaya 20+ years ago. It was pretty much the same then, except for Soi 6. And there were less Indians.

Some areas were more popular then than now (Soi 7), and Soi Buakhow didn't exist as a hot spot. There was a Lolita's BJ bar in Soi Metro, and that was it.

I do remember the old-timers back then complaining that Pattaya was better 20 years earlier. You can see posts here from 20 years ago saying the same thing.

By the blood of Sekhmet Herself, Anubis would be proud. Exactly! Could not have said it better myself. Somehow, not just here in Thailand, but in every thread, in every country, in every city, somehow it was always better 10 or 20 years ago! I mean it's like, come on guys. Stop living in the past. It's the now. This is what we've got, and we have to make the most of the pussy we can get.

I betcha 20 years from now, dudes are going to say these days were the best. Just saying.

I said the same thing in the Prague forum, here as well. Somehow there's always someone saying it was better 10 or 20 years ago. It's like come on man. Sure, to me Prague was better 10 years ago, but I bet if I could go now, I might be able to find something the same or better. Heck I had 2 Bangkok trips separated by over 5 years and the second trip was way better, not because Bangkok had gotten better or worse, but because I found the right way to do Bangkok and her ladies, my way.

Oh, almost forgot to end my post with my signature catch phrase. This is my catchphrase ok? I totally didn't steal it from some submarine commander dude.
How are you gentlemen liking me right at this moment? (pretend I took the time and effort to make this whole thing in bold type)

[SubCmdr]

Individuals who NEED constant changing female companionship in this lives are emotional stunted or damaged and are trying to work out their issues often by being submissive and having girls sit on their face.

But focusing solely on girls with Thai Husbands and boyfriends they avoid any possibility or opportunity to have a consistent relationship. I do not think having a girlfriend is a mistake in Pattaya. Unless you are like one of the individuals I have previously described.

Number 1

New pussy cannot cook Constantly having girls run thru your life means they are there for simply 3 reason. It would stand to thing that because they all have 3 holes to penetrate. I like having a girl in my life that I can enjoy during ADLs (Activities of Daily Life).

Number 2

I am not in Pattaya for the girls I am in Pattaya because it is a international destination with great infrastructure, low cost of living and I can afford the cost of a room within 10 minutes walk to the beach.

Number 3

Thailands immigration policies are very straight forward There are other countries that I would like to spend time in. But I am limited because I cannot get permission to stay in those countries for the length of time I would like. Thailand has welcomed me to the Kingdom with with open arms. They gave me a guest pass. Told me when I had to leave. No fuss, no mess.

Number 4

Thailand has no hassle pussy If you procure it right. You can have a regular partner and you can have as many other sexual partners as you like. I have found Thai Girls to be very accepting of that. I have no idea of what individuals are talking about when they say a girlfriend ties you down. That is some closed mind, western farang, fucked up thinking in my book.

How you like now?

[SubCmdr]

And also, I find all the aging dudes who seem to live for the next beer hanging about in their shorts and tank tops to be incredibly depressing.

I see it too. Riding down Beach Road on the Baht Bus.

In the meantime I look forward to commenting on his inability to understand the baht bus routes,

But what it does not do to me is cause depression. Honestly, I do not understand that. Grown man spending his time and his money how he wants to.

Is that really such a difficult concept. Let me reiterate: Poverty Mentality is displayed by a individual who is concerned with what someone else is doing with: His Time, His Money, His Dick! Why? Because it is His Call!.

These days I'll take Bangkok any day.

Not me. What is important to me is: 1. Being able to walk to the beach in 10 minutes 2. Have a girl deliver the pussy to me off Thai Friendly for 1000 - 1200 THB within the hour. I am coming from a place that has some of the best Beaches in the entire world..

My best days in Republica Dominicana were my best days in the Dominican Republic. My best days in Thailand are my best days in Thailand. I am not the sort to engage in glory days comparisons. When I was in the Dominican Republic I had not discovered Thailand at the time. I have established deep roots in the Dominican Republic that are just not going to go away. That is why I will return. To tend to my roots and to hang out with the friends I made during my time there.

The only thing that the Dominican Republic is superior on is beaches In all other areas that I find important for good living: Colombia and Thailand are far superior!

Period. Full Stop!

That being said I would not change my time in the Dominican Republic at all. Nor do I feel like I wish I had of discovered Colombia and Thailand sooner. Everything occurs in it time it should based on the manifest destiny laid out for me. I am good with with it!

Lets talk about personal preferences

Well done, and well stated. And a lot of older guys, like me, we've been there, done that with the bars and the gogos and what not. The thrill is in the chase, like you bedding a hot young freebie with some eagerness and personality. It's not at all about just dumping your load in some overpriced skank with golden pussy syndrome. Zero interest in that at all.

Its all good I do not need to boost my ego with the idea of getting Free?! pussy. I fucked over 300 girls in my country of origin (With my Big Black Dick over the time period I lived there (for free)! Now as a older guy I personally do not want to spend my time (which is limited at this point in my life) running down some young girl just so I can brag about it here on ISG.

Far from it. I am perfectly comfortable with UGP (Ugly Girl Pussy). UGP gets my dick off the same way as PGP (Pretty Girl Pussy) and at a much lower CPO (Cost Per Orgasm). Mother fucks who focus on how much others spend in the Bar / Club are exhibiting a Poverty Mentality. The costs incurred are for individual involved. Yes, the girl gets the drink bonus. But sometimes I just post up in the Club to look and enjoy the company of a sexy girl next to me. Call me a lonely guy if you must. But I am not sending money from half a world a way to girl who is going to take it and fuck some other guy within minutes. Now, do not get me wrong. I have not problem with someone who wants to be a Sponsor. But that is just not for me.

Lets talk about appearance standards and price

Young and attractive bar girl for me = 20-25 years old. Knowing this. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I respect this. EverythingThai has laid out his beauty standards. He also posts the occasional picture.

Keep it real guys when posting about the Bangkok scene guys. The girls in Bangkok are classier, dress nice, spend hours doing their make up, nails and hair before going out and look for guys who have it together. The girls that accept 1000 LT and salaries of 3-5 k per month in return for unlimited fucking are not the top tier girls, nor the middle tier girls or even the below average girls.

This applies to Pattaya also 1200 Long Time is not something I have ever offered (mostly because I am not a Long Time guy) but I simply cannot imagine that it's about pulling Top Tier Girls. Like saying I bought a BMW for half price around the corner from the BMW dealership. Now, I am not saying that ANYONE up in here is lying on their dick. But I will say that has NOT been MY experience in Pattaya.

I pay a lot more attention to price and chemistry Chemistry is the ONLY thing that drives me to pay more than my usual amount to get my dick off.

[Explorer8939]

Living in Pattaya is very different from a visit of 2 weeks.

Probably the biggest mistake residents make is hooking up with a "girlfriend". Given the nature of Pattaya, to tie yourself down with a single lady defeats the purpose of being in Pattaya. The problem is that some guys come to Pattaya to find a "girlfriend" because they can't get one back home.

I am always busy in Pattaya because I am transferring contents from my homes in the US to my condo (small stuff, not furniture). Plus installing a multi-function solar panel array on my balcony (it points north, so not too useful). I am installing battery power to have some electricity when the main power fails).

My career has been an inventor, and if I get enough sleep, don't drink too much alcohol, but drink an excess of coffee, I can do work in the morning. So, that kills 3 or 4 days every year.

My weakness is that I am deluged with messages from ladies during Low Season asking if I want company. That leads to periods where I have 2 ladies a day, which is a bit much over a long time. Also, the more ladies, the greater the chance of a dud. And it precludes me from going to the bars.

[Explorer8939]

Since you just got off the plane (your words) you don't know about the past. I was there in the late 90's and mid 2000's and it was better and cheaper. There was far less emphasis on drinks and more on barfines and hooking up. Girls were pretty much all longtime unless you kicked them out. That model has changed and prices have increased. Girl prices, business class air ticket prices, and even the price of shoes have increased. Just like everything else. I understand these changes and I don't live in the past. I don't cry about changes because Thailand is still a great to visit with tons of options. SubCmdr I wish you could have experienced it; it was unbelievable. But I understand people occasionally making comparisons to the past because it was such a true paradise.

If these past references bother you just skip over the post. I suspect some people here have such a big ego they can't imagine Thailand being better without their saintly presence.

I was in Pattaya 20+ years ago. It was pretty much the same then, except for Soi 6. And there were less Indians.

Some areas were more popular then than now (Soi 7), and Soi Buakhow didn't exist as a hot spot. There was a Lolita's BJ bar in Soi Metro, and that was it.

I do remember the old-timers back then complaining that Pattaya was better 20 years earlier. You can see posts here from 20 years ago saying the same thing.

[SubCmdr]

My life is great here in Pattaya, Thailand It could be because I am a newbie. Just off the plane and enjoying every bit of my life here. You see despite others efforts to educate me on what Pattaya used to be. I am enjoying what Pattaya is now.

By having having boots on the ground for months on end I get to do what visitors (those who don't need to renew their visitors visa why they are here) can NEVER experience. This is the classic conflict that I have seen occur on ISG across Country Threads. There will always be Sexpats and International Tricks.

Sexpats

They post up in a place long enough to actually learn how to live like a local.

International Tricks

Visitors. They don't need to extend the stamp they get on the VOA (or whatever the fuck they call it). You know the time they get when the initially enter the country.

Sexpats if they choose to write about their experiences here on ISG (and many don't) often make International Tricks think they are telling tall tales. I used to get that ALOT when I was posting in the Dominican Republic threads. Sexpats can simply do what International Tricks cannot.

Example

If I wrote that you can buy a condo here in Pattaya that will pay you 8 - 10% cash on cash return after expenses, someone is going to call me a liar. I have to admit, this used to bother me. But now it simply does not. I am unaffected by what anyone thinks about the experiences I write or the judgments they make about them.

How you like me now?

International Tricks once they are wheels down. The wheels up clock starts ticking and that changes their perceptions so much they have trouble understanding the perspective that being a Sexpat gives you.

They be hating and making statements like this:

Everyone has to have a routine and many expats do not, bar pouring money into the black holes that are bar girls / grannies. They are not a reason to get up in the morning, except to check if your wallet has been robbed.

This is a classic example of Poverty Thinking. The OP is concerned with what others are doing with their time and money.

My time; My money; My dick; My call!

Who the fuck says you need to get up in the morning when you are free man? You can run your life on the nightlife schedule. 3 PM to 6 AM. Sleep in the mornings and get up and do it all over again.

Or you can do like I do: prime trading sessions on the world stage occur for me between 2000 - 0400. I then hit streets and do my road work. Have a bite to eat when I get back. Get my six to eight hours and up and go about my day. Those who aren't still stuck on the government / corporate wage slave plantations can be free men!

How you like me now?

That's so funny, submarine commanders catch phrase: How you like me now?
It's kinda weird in a way, like a street fight is about to happen, pounding chest and all.

Really brother? Is that what you think? Nothing could be further from the truth. If you research the statement it comes from a song and it has a meaning that the song writers attached to it.

Singer Kelvin Swaby said the song is about "when you can take advantage of a situation, and it doesn't matter what you do. I'm trying to say that I've been really, really, really bad, you shouldn't love me after all. And I'm telling you I've done this and this and this, so how do you like me now? And it's almost like you're just being cocky with it, because you know that you can do it.

Starting a street fight my brother? Nah, it is about being confident in yourself and your abilities. Now I know that bothers those that are not in the same mental space as I am. But when I write: How you like me now? I am asking my fellow ISG members to judge the material I just wrote for accuracy and usefulness.

I got big flow; I got big stack; I got Big Black Dick! I am posted up in Pattaya and do what the fuck I when I want to do it. I am a free man!

How you like me now?

[Newton York]

I agree. The only question comes in is when the customer talks about how much someone they are paying for a service likes them or something they do. Maybe they do not like them or what they are doing at all, but are just giving good customer service.

Like if I jump in the back of my Uber and put my feet on the seats, yet the driver keeps smiling, could I actually state the driver loves when I put my feet on the seats, or does he just keep smiling because he does not want me to give him 1 star or lose my business?

Mongers tend to talk about how much someone they are paying for a service are into them or what they are doing.

Yes, that's true but maybe it's just me a thing, but I would hope they would try to like me a little. Cause if you know they hate your guts, or they're having a bad day, even if they provide services as stated, it's not going to be too much fun. That's why we have the best times and the best sex with the chicks we connect with. And we all know, the getting along with a chick, sharing that same vibe is always the challenge. I think in our line of hobby, the chick giving a good professional service, has to like you a teeny tiny bit. It'll definitely show. If she hates you, it'll show for sure. Even if she's beingneutral, but can still somehow perform, you can always tell. And I totally get the whole point is to nut, but if that's the best she can do cause there's no connection, then obviously I'm not repeating with her. The coupla chicks I had a really stupendously good time with in Bangkok, they perform exceedingly well, if not because she genuinely likes me or likes the job, but it's that she can fake it supremely well, and that's good enough for me. But to fake a sunny disposition like that, some of them would have to be basically psychos. I think some of them, well maybe just a handful, are truly genuine.

[Newton York]

Like a virus, the rantings and ravings from the other section has arrived here. I thought this here to be a cool and more relaxed chat area. Just lounging and talking sex like in a German FKK or something. But it's outright fisticuffs here too.

It's so sad fellas. So sad. Don't be so angry. We're all here to enjoy pussy wherever we can find it. By the way anyone see that Thai movie 'Breaking Bangkok: Heavan and Hell', that's a good movie. But the old 'Ong Bak' will always be an action classic to me. Let's just chat folks, let's all calm down, and talk about things that are Thai related.

That's so funny, submarine commanders catch phrase: How you like me now?
It's kinda weird in a way, like a street fight is about to happen, pounding chest and all. But here we all are in a forum, where nothing matters. Like anybody can be disappointed, or insulted, or get angry. It literally doesn't matter, as a matter of fact, at this point, some of us might even be AI. There's no ramifications, no consequences, nothing. Nobody even needs to read any replies at all. Let's everybody just calm down. Calm down. Let's talk about what truly matters. Sex with hot chicks.

[Nyezhov]

Since you just got off the plane (your words) you don't know about the past. I was there in the late 90's and mid 2000's and it was better and cheaper. There was far less emphasis on drinks and more on barfines and hooking up. Girls were pretty much all longtime unless you kicked them out. That model has changed and prices have increased. Girl prices, business class air ticket prices, and even the price of shoes have increased. Just like everything else. I understand these changes and I don't live in the past. I don't cry about changes because Thailand is still a great to visit with tons of options. SubCmdr I wish you could have experienced it; it was unbelievable. But I understand people occasionally making comparisons to the past because it was such a true paradise.

If these past references bother you just skip over the post. I suspect some people here have such a big ego they can't imagine Thailand being better without their saintly presence.

Back in the old days, MessBoy wouldn't have been allowed in, and when he finally was, he would pay more to the girls, if he could find one. Thats a change from the old days, although most decent looking girls nowadays avoid his type.

[Allover]

Damn straight. I've been to Jakarta, Medellin, Santo Domingo, Sosua, Punta Cana and for me Pattaya beats them all. Pattaya if it was a horse in a race, it would be crossing the finish line while the rest are are just turning onto the backstretch! Yeah! I said it!

Well said! In my opinion, when I read about complains about Pattaya they are from those who have a Poverty Mentality or they are living in the Glory Days. Like if I was to compare my raw athletic abilities on the Tennis Court 20 years ago to now. Of course they would not compare whatsoever. I don't know why individuals don't understand that. Plus, what the fuck you going to do about the passage of time. That is bigger than all of us. For every old mother fuck complaining about Pattaya, there is a newbie like me just getting off the plane and loving it. It is the cycle of life.

Yep, that is about the value I place on your posts, 2 cents. Many times I have found that to be substantially overvalued. LOL!

Now you are keeping it real!

How you like me now?

Since you just got off the plane (your words) you don't know about the past. I was there in the late 90's and mid 2000's and it was better and cheaper. There was far less emphasis on drinks and more on barfines and hooking up. Girls were pretty much all longtime unless you kicked them out. That model has changed and prices have increased. Girl prices, business class air ticket prices, and even the price of shoes have increased. Just like everything else. I understand these changes and I don't live in the past. I don't cry about changes because Thailand is still a great to visit with tons of options. SubCmdr I wish you could have experienced it; it was unbelievable. But I understand people occasionally making comparisons to the past because it was such a true paradise.

If these past references bother you just skip over the post. I suspect some people here have such a big ego they can't imagine Thailand being better without their saintly presence.

[SubCmdr]

Let me tell you how I see it. Pattaya is a huge playground for adults.

Damn straight. I've been to Jakarta, Medellin, Santo Domingo, Sosua, Punta Cana and for me Pattaya beats them all. Pattaya if it was a horse in a race, it would be crossing the finish line while the rest are are just turning onto the backstretch! Yeah! I said it!

The gents clubs will have one or two at each. Then there is soi 6. Each bar will have a few but there are just so many bars. Yes they have a lot of pressure to buy drinks and I get that, but about talent, it's is clearly there. Have prices gone up, yes. Times are changing. Then there is walking street. The good go go bars will have groups of stunners, but you will need to spend big. Then there is TF. This is the best way for you in my opinion to find stunners in Pattaya. The prices will be reasonable and drinks are completely out of the equation. My opinion on pats is there is more variety and P4 P is easier to find, cheaper and the action can be dirty as fuck. This means it's easier to get BBFS, easier to find a threesome and easier to walk into a club like Maggie Mays and get in bar action.

Well said! In my opinion, when I read about complains about Pattaya they are from those who have a Poverty Mentality or they are living in the Glory Days. Like if I was to compare my raw athletic abilities on the Tennis Court 20 years ago to now. Of course they would not compare whatsoever. I don't know why individuals don't understand that. Plus, what the fuck you going to do about the passage of time. That is bigger than all of us. For every old mother fuck complaining about Pattaya, there is a newbie like me just getting off the plane and loving it. It is the cycle of life.

This is my 2 cents Goats. Pattaya is a great place to visit, but the hunt is becoming less and less attractive to me. Now I have my spots like Maggie Mays, club fate, XS and Pin Up just to name a few. That's all I need. I'm not one to try new places in Patts anymore. Heaven Above is on my to do list though. About TF in Patts, it's just too easy. Log in, choose a girl, invite her over and that's it.

Yep, that is about the value I place on your posts, 2 cents. Many times I have found that to be substantially overvalued. LOL!

My final thoughts, in the words of Tony Soprano, remember when is the lowest form of conversation. This meaning I don't dwell on the past and what once was. I just adapt.

Now you are keeping it real!

How you like me now?

[SubCmdr]

I got 8 million ways to write a post. I dont have to choose one!

However, despite "loss of face" being important in Thailand, the ladies will feign ignorance. And of course, they will claim they don't have a Thai boyfriend.

So is lying about having a Thai boyfriend to prevent loss of face of them or the person they are telling the lie to?

You are in Thailand, you can ask the ladies you meet these questions.

Without Jedi Mind Tricks and Vulcan Mind Melds how am I to know that I gettin truthful answers. Besides I prefer to spend my time with my dick in the mouth, pussy and asses of Thai girls that I am paying for that privilege rather than drinking with them, talking to them and having them sit on my face. I would rather talk about fuck shit and discuss it among my fellow International Tricks.

You are in Thailand, you can ask the ladies you meet these questions.

However, despite "loss of face" being important in Thailand, the ladies will feign ignorance. And of course, they will claim they don't have a Thai boyfriend.

[Explorer8939]

What is the definition of cheating in Thailand? Does it depend on the type of relationship? Does it depend upon the occupation of the girl? Does it depend on how you met the girl? Is there such a thing as a monogamous relationship in Thailand?

What exactly is loss of face? Is that when someone cheats and their partner finds out about it? Does lose of face only occur of others know about it? Does loss of face occur only by the partner that got cheated on? Or can the cheating partner lose face also cause they got caught? Are there different rules for loss of face when it comes Thai people and Farang people?

Is any of this related to sitting on face or coming on face?

You are in Thailand, you can ask the ladies you meet these questions.

However, despite "loss of face" being important in Thailand, the ladies will feign ignorance. And of course, they will claim they don't have a Thai boyfriend.

[SubCmdr]

My input is that it is possible to go to work and enjoy your work!

So a girl can work in the entertainment industry and enjoy her work in general. Like any job there are going to bad days and good days. But these sweeping statement where people project their feelings onto others are just blatantly false! When I was working, there were things that I enjoyed at work and things that I did not. But I would have never showed up at work if I was not getting paid.

Then there is chemistry. I liken hiring a prostitute to taking your car to a mechanic. That is a bad analogy. Because I leave my car with the mechanic and my dick stays attached to me. So when I hire a dick mechanic to drain my balls, sometimes we share chemistry. Good chemistry is something that exists between human beings and is way more than the concept some proffer as just good customer service. Chemistry is something that is shared between to human beings for a moment or a lifetime and has nothing to do with money. It is similar to when you like some of your co-workers or people you do business and others well they are just (Compound Profanity redacted).

Yep, I said it!

[MrHappyKat]

I agree. The only question comes in is when the customer talks about how much someone they are paying for a service likes them or something they do. Maybe they do not like them or what they are doing at all, but are just giving good customer service.

Like if I jump in the back of my Uber and put my feet on the seats, yet the driver keeps smiling, could I actually state the driver loves when I put my feet on the seats, or does he just keep smiling because he does not want me to give him 1 star or lose my business?

Mongers tend to talk about how much someone they are paying for a service are into them or what they are doing.

Fortunately, after 40+ years of mongering, my ego is more concerned about how well I am getting fucked than about how well I am fucking. But that took me several years (and TBH thousands of SIMP dollars pissed away) to figure out. And I'll carve out the case for long-term Sugar Babies, at least in the US. The "cost of acquisition" to get a really good SB onboarded into my rotation (I currently have 8), is high in terms of money and especially time. Once a good (I. E. : Hot, enthusiastic, and capable) SB is acquired, it costs less to keep her happy and coming back on the regular than it does to replace her frequently.

I guess deep down, I'm really a "Cheap Charlie. " LOL.