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  1. #1500
    Quote Originally Posted by JoyThick  [View Original Post]
    Well, for starters, I don't understand how 1-5 k ppm even works where WGs charge 1-2 k per hour. How frequently do you smash? What are the other expenses they expect you to cover?

    Separately, no one asked you to give a ***** ass response. As I already mentioned. I have already been lurking around here for a long time (many many hours over the past 6 months) and wouldn't post if it didn't make sense to. So if you don't have anything to add, you're welcome to stfu and let someone else respond (if they want to ofc). There are many questions that aren't obvious to a passive reader compared to those who already have experience with SBs.
    My 2 cents. SA offers exclusivity whereas MR is well, MR. SA is your best bet for raw GND / GFE in this context. Ofc this requires time (and dough) for the experience. What kinds of expenses you cover is something you agree upon with the SB once baseline is established. First, you need to sign up. Let me know how that goes, I hear its a pain thee days with all sorts of verifications.

    Stay safe. MJ.

  2. #1499
    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdasking  [View Original Post]
    Guys get a room please.

    Anyway JT you should ask yourself what you want from an SB. What experience are you looking for? Are you simply looking for cheaper sex? Do you want to meet a regular partner for NSA 3 times a week? Anything else?

    Seeking. You need to pay a monthly sub, setup a profile like you would on a dating site. Message someone who doesn't look like an escort / scammer. Read their profile. If it kind of fits with what you want or if you like the look of them, fire a message. The hard part is having the time to do this and filter out scammers, escorts, GPS, platonics, serial daters, tourists. This is a long task. They also have to like and choose you, they are not hookers, so don't be offended after exchanging pictures they ghost. Genuine SBs want something longterm and stable.

    How to avoid scams. I mean just be street smart. Google scammers / scamming on sugar forums and you will get a picture. Unless you are completely stupid or naive should be fine.

    Pay. Least I have paid is 1 k ppm. Most 2 k ppm. 2-3 hours multiple pop to LT. Allowances 6-10 k a month. Taxi, food, drinks, accomo also taken care off. Some SBs have their own apartment and happy to host once they trust you. Most live in shared as is the cost of living in Dubai, so just having a decent apartment apparently is rare for the average single male in Dubai and already puts you ahead. As does generally being decent, which is also apparently uncommon these days. Use this to your advantage..
    King! Thanks for this. How do you typically deal with security if you get the SB to live with you? Do you never leave her alone at home? Do you disclose your personal identity and details of your work with her?

  3. #1498

    Quick Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by JoyThick  [View Original Post]
    Well, for starters, I don't understand how 1-5 k ppm even works where WGs charge 1-2 k per hour. How frequently do you smash? What are the other expenses they expect you to cover?

    Separately, no one asked you to give a ***** ass response. As I already mentioned. I have already been lurking around here for a long time (many many hours over the past 6 months) and wouldn't post if it didn't make sense to. So if you don't have anything to add, you're welcome to stfu and let someone else respond (if they want to ofc). There are many questions that aren't obvious to a passive reader compared to those who already have experience with SBs.
    Guys get a room please.

    Anyway JT you should ask yourself what you want from an SB. What experience are you looking for? Are you simply looking for cheaper sex? Do you want to meet a regular partner for NSA 3 times a week? Anything else?

    Seeking. You need to pay a monthly sub, setup a profile like you would on a dating site. Message someone who doesn't look like an escort / scammer. Read their profile. If it kind of fits with what you want or if you like the look of them, fire a message. The hard part is having the time to do this and filter out scammers, escorts, GPS, platonics, serial daters, tourists. This is a long task. They also have to like and choose you, they are not hookers, so don't be offended after exchanging pictures they ghost. Genuine SBs want something longterm and stable.

    How to avoid scams. I mean just be street smart. Google scammers / scamming on sugar forums and you will get a picture. Unless you are completely stupid or naive should be fine.

    Pay. Least I have paid is 1 k ppm. Most 2 k ppm. 2-3 hours multiple pop to LT. Allowances 6-10 k a month. Taxi, food, drinks, accomo also taken care off. Some SBs have their own apartment and happy to host once they trust you. Most live in shared as is the cost of living in Dubai, so just having a decent apartment apparently is rare for the average single male in Dubai and already puts you ahead. As does generally being decent, which is also apparently uncommon these days. Use this to your advantage.

    Main benefit is coming across normal full time single working women with average jobs from all over the world who are sick of the dating pool in Dubai; however crave sex want NSA and have figured out they can make some extra pocket money from it. Some also use it to gain access to wealthy men I guess. Majority, especially in Dubai are delusional so you still have to play a test series, not T20 to find a decent SB.

    If its just sex you are after, stick to escorts / club scene. If you want stunners, same. If you want to fuck a different girl every night / every other time, same. If you cba to atleast meet up for coffee / brunch before you smash, same. However, if you want a 30 yr fox who just wants to have mind blowing sex, all holes filled raw with you 3 times a week for 2 k a week, try sugar dating.

  4. #1497

    No one asked

    Quote Originally Posted by TeFab456  [View Original Post]
    Where do you come from? Uranus? It seems you have never read any tiniest piece of the experience here (but maybe reading is too much of a challenge nowadays).
    Well, for starters, I don't understand how 1-5 k ppm even works where WGs charge 1-2 k per hour. How frequently do you smash? What are the other expenses they expect you to cover?

    Separately, no one asked you to give a ***** ass response. As I already mentioned. I have already been lurking around here for a long time (many many hours over the past 6 months) and wouldn't post if it didn't make sense to. So if you don't have anything to add, you're welcome to stfu and let someone else respond (if they want to ofc). There are many questions that aren't obvious to a passive reader compared to those who already have experience with SBs.

  5. #1496
    Quote Originally Posted by JoyThick  [View Original Post]
    Could someone bother to do a quick explainer for the MR guys on how Seeking works and how to go about finding SBs? How much do you pay per week / month for stunners, how to avoid scams, what's the main benefit (companionship? They do raw? Easier to find non-Arabs / Slavics / Asians. Western Europeans, brits for example? Interested in getting into finding SBs but not sure where to start even after spending a few hours reading through the posts.
    Where do you come from? Uranus? It seems you have never read any tiniest piece of the experience here (but maybe reading is too much of a challenge nowadays).

  6. #1495

    Help transition from MR to Seeking

    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdasking  [View Original Post]
    You need to have a filtering system. 1. 5-2 k you can get decent WGs from Ayush. So why pay an average SB this? You also need to give SBs your time, which many men cba to do. They want cash for sex and in the sugar world you need to provide time to your sb.

    Honestly just ask yourself why you want an SB? Out of 200-300 I get a handful that actually likes raw BDSM multipop action. Regularly like once or twice a week. Make sure they are uae resident visa holders, have an actual full time job and understand transactional dating. How you come across is also important, they filter you. The sex I get from SBs, if I could get from working girls I probably would just see a working girl. They just don't deliver, just a conveyor belt..
    Could someone bother to do a quick explainer for the MR guys on how Seeking works and how to go about finding SBs? How much do you pay per week / month for stunners, how to avoid scams, what's the main benefit (companionship? They do raw? Easier to find non-Arabs / Slavics / Asians. Western Europeans, brits for example? Interested in getting into finding SBs but not sure where to start even after spending a few hours reading through the posts.

  7. #1494
    Quote Originally Posted by MagnumJ  [View Original Post]
    Well stated. Exactly what I said earlier, you need to come across well, communicate well and attractiveness is subjective. A great chunk of those who do understand the SA game cannot compromise on time, myself included. A lot many are glorified MR profiles, for lack of a better description. Having said that, SA does stand out.

    Happy mongering!
    No idea what you just said but seeking and MR are miles apart. Closest WG to SB for me has been a new indie in a club who is a nympho, loves sex and figured out they can get paid for it.

  8. #1493
    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdasking  [View Original Post]
    You need to have a filtering system. 1. 5-2 k you can get decent WGs from Ayush. So why pay an average SB this? You also need to give SBs your time, which many men cba to do. They want cash for sex and in the sugar world you need to provide time to your sb.

    Honestly just ask yourself why you want an SB? Out of 200-300 I get a handful that actually likes raw BDSM multipop action. Regularly like once or twice a week. Make sure they are uae resident visa holders, have an actual full time job and understand transactional dating. How you come across is also important, they filter you. The sex I get from SBs, if I could get from working girls I probably would just see a working girl. They just don't deliver, just a conveyor belt.

    Age - 25-35.

    Race. In dubai I've had Brits, Europeans, SE asians, CIS, non gulf arabs, one african.

    Attractiveness is subjective. ID say all are GND; what was common among them was they were supersub, wanted multipop raw fucking, explore kinks and wanted something regular aka no one night stands. Most were ubered both ways, drinks, snacks in apartment, some who had time we went for post orgasm dinner / shisha. On a working day most just want to go back home after a solid session as they have dead end jobs early next day. One the weekend they were up for non stop fucking. I can't get a working girl to do that so I stick to seeking. Once I find 2-3, I deactivate and just see them regularly. It works out well for everyone.
    Well stated. Exactly what I said earlier, you need to come across well, communicate well and attractiveness is subjective. A great chunk of those who do understand the SA game cannot compromise on time, myself included. A lot many are glorified MR profiles, for lack of a better description. Having said that, SA does stand out.

    Happy mongering!

  9. #1492

    Common scam

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    If it's a scam, she will immediately block or ghost you if you pick the place. The standard line I have encountered many times from such scammers is "we meet, we talk and decide where we go".

    A favorite spot in business bay for them is Hyde Hotel. Moroccans, Lebanese, Syrian girls are all doing it.
    Out of maybe 300+ I messaged on seeking I got one who breeched my screening defences. True Trojan horse. I was also a bit naive. On kept persistently pestering me. After I filled up my SB and got her a taxi home decided to see what the fuss was about. This one never mentioned any particular hotel or venue. Simply wanted a "date" and made it clear no ppm but if we gel we will smash. Yeah right. Anyway I was horny and bored asked if she wanted to shisha. Went to pick her up, from a BBay hotel #redflag. Not stunning tbh, GND and I had found her insta. She was some Colombian influencer with 1 mil followers. Likely flown into honey trap with kick backs. Anyway the penny dropped when she said she wanted to go to a particular venue. I said no thanks I've already booked a place so she just walked away. Die with the lie baby. I bet you many many vulnerable chaps have been fleeced. Got to hand it to her / the team, don't hate the player, hate the game. Just this time game recognised game.

    Anyway I laughed it off. Went to Ayoosh (was a working day maybe wed, hegde there likely is a bargain). Water melon juice, shisha, scooped a Moroccan baddie for at 1. 5 k LT and went back to her apartment to smash late night and a morning fuck. She was clearly a 2-3 k LT solid 10/10. Her apartment setup was incredible and she showed me pics of her old fat Saudi sponsor who just flys in for company, doesn't even / apparently can't fuck. Man that's when you know you have "fuck you money". I pitched an SB allowance which was laughable to her, but happy with 1. 5 k LT. I'm now in the apartment guest book, bff with the security who helps me with parking at hers, he gets his karak money from me and a smoking / convo companion post shag. You never know what you end up with when you role the dice.

  10. #1491

    Guys overpay when they think with their dicks mate

    Quote Originally Posted by NoBuglyFitches  [View Original Post]
    Guys overpay when they don't have accurate information. That's the purpose of this forum. Ime a 1. 5 k offer on SA in Dubai gets you blocked with no second chances.

    Maybe guys who claim to get 1500 aed ppm could tell the rest of us who you're meeting. Age, race, attractiveness?
    You need to have a filtering system. 1. 5-2 k you can get decent WGs from Ayush. So why pay an average SB this? You also need to give SBs your time, which many men cba to do. They want cash for sex and in the sugar world you need to provide time to your sb.

    Honestly just ask yourself why you want an SB? Out of 200-300 I get a handful that actually likes raw BDSM multipop action. Regularly like once or twice a week. Make sure they are uae resident visa holders, have an actual full time job and understand transactional dating. How you come across is also important, they filter you. The sex I get from SBs, if I could get from working girls I probably would just see a working girl. They just don't deliver, just a conveyor belt.

    Age - 25-35.

    Race. In dubai I've had Brits, Europeans, SE asians, CIS, non gulf arabs, one african.

    Attractiveness is subjective. ID say all are GND; what was common among them was they were supersub, wanted multipop raw fucking, explore kinks and wanted something regular aka no one night stands. Most were ubered both ways, drinks, snacks in apartment, some who had time we went for post orgasm dinner / shisha. On a working day most just want to go back home after a solid session as they have dead end jobs early next day. One the weekend they were up for non stop fucking. I can't get a working girl to do that so I stick to seeking. Once I find 2-3, I deactivate and just see them regularly. It works out well for everyone.

    I feel punters in Dubai just don't understand the sugar game because we are all just used to SW / escorts and pure transactional money for sex. Doubt real dating scene even exists, its just another form off sugar dating or filled sith WGs / Escorts / scammers.

    I just recently met an SB from Turkmenistan. I messaged and we started a convo in the morning and by lunch time she was in my apartment and we fucked all day. Once a week. 2k aed. No hour limits. No hole limits. No shot limits. All raw. Where can I find an escort like this in Dubai?

  11. #1490

    Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by WantMore  [View Original Post]
    . We agree on the plan for the weekend and I am unanimously put in charge of arranging the fun weekend with the caveat that it has to start with a dinner on Friday night with really good views!
    So finally, we all get together on the weekend. I am running around all day for an assignment and can't get the girls so tell Sibi to take an Uber to DIFC since I am already in the area. This is the new bar at ICD and there is a restaurant on the same floor. I am still not drinking. Bro is close by so comes before, him and I are hanging out over drinks. He is super excited and keeps telling me how cool he is to have charmed Fifi. I let is play out and we move to talking to work stuff. The girls have been shopping a earlier and I had got some pics from Sibi and a thank you note from Fifi. The girls come nearly an hour later. Bro is jitterly, so tell him to call Fifi, which calms him down.

    The bar has amazing views and we have the table right by the window. We decide that only going to do cocktails and wine. We havedrinks and are already full with all the finger food, no one is in the mood for dinner. We just hang around at the bar, the music is getting really pumped, there is some dancing going on, we join in a bit. Fifi has turned on her very awkward charm. All is going good. At some point, we leave and I collect both the cars keys for the safe driver. I have got two Porches being delivered tomorrow morning so we don't need these anyways. By the time we are at his apartment, Fifi and Bro are already all over each other. The girls take sometime to get settlted into the rooms. They have never been to this place before. I want a shower and leave Bro on the couch and get cleaned up. The girls are settled in. We get some food on the balcony with really nice DT views. Fifi and Bro are making out pretty heavy, I take that as a signal to get to bed, Sibi is really buzzed also. Get into the room and am all over her, her clothes are off but heels are on and get a nice load into her. I am exhausted and fall asleep, I wake up super early and all the deliveries start, car, groceries and drinks. Get that settled. We have a chef coming in to make lunch. No one is even up when she comes in. She has prepared most of the stuff so very little work but cooking it in the oven. She is a new one but from the same service which I had used a few years ago. I give her the lay of the land, tell her that if we can make snacks for us also pl. Sibi finally wakes up, followed by Fifi, girls chat for a bit. Sibi later tells me that Bro was all over Fifi all night and they didn't sleep till early morning. I just check with Fifi that all cool. She is all good. Three of us have lunch and bro wakes up much later. It is almost all day gone.

  12. #1489
    Quote Originally Posted by WantMore  [View Original Post]
    All this stuff has delayed lunch to nearly 3 pm.
    The Bro is waiting at the parking garage since the plan is to take his SUV instead of my sedan to the lunch. I would rather sit at the back with Sibi instead of having to constantly turn my neck. Sibi is also wearing a knee high light dress which I like with slight boob show, so a much more pleasant look then getting the sun in my eye. Fifi wants to sit at the back, I open the door and get her in the front. Drive is very very long. The traffic for getting the in Palm is insane. Once at the hotel, things are calmer. The restaurant is totally empty, I am worried that they might have closed until dinner as it is very late. They are open. The lunch is really lovely. Bro is totally into the girls and Fifi and Sibi are both working out well with him. We agree on the plan for the weekend and I am unanimously put in charge of arranging the fun weekend with the caveat that it has to start with a dinner on Friday night with really good views! The jewelry is brought out right at the end to acknowledge to the girls how excited we are for the weekend.

    Drop off bro and tell the girls to hang back. I check with him on the Fifi situation, he says all good but really like Sibi. I know that there is no way that Sibi is going to agree with that. I don't even want to bring it up to her as she is going to sulk for a long time, she is weirdly conservative about this. I tell Bro that is it not going to happen as I have known Sibi for a long time and she won't go for it. He wants to ask her, so I tell him to go for it but he risks blowing the entire thing. He backs down but I know its not going to be the end of it.

    I get my car and talk about the upcoming weekend. Back at Sibi place, have a quiet word with Fifi that all is cool and she is fine hooking up withe Bro. She is totally into it, so all good. I tell both the girls that they should expect spending money coming their way to get prepped for it the weekend and some more of top of it. They have realistic expectations of both, so that is settled.

  13. #1488
    Quote Originally Posted by WantMore  [View Original Post]

    Bro it taking the girls out for lunch tomorrow. I can't make it but will get a report, if he green lights it then should be set up for the weekend.
    So this finally happened over the weekend.

    Bro set up the lunch at his place like an idiot. Bro stays at an absolutely fantastic apartment in Downtown with unbelievable views and it is very large for a two bedroom apartment. The second room is sort of my room, as I stay over sometimes with his elder bro when things are really busy. This weird invite spooks me that Bro is going to screw up all the carefully managed plans, so I cancel my other engagement and decide to join the lunch and taken control of this. I almost work exclusively for the family and some of their friends. My job overall is to manage their international expansion, raise funds and be their finance guy. Since I get along very well with Bro, who is very head strong and the younger son, and I have gotten him out of a money grabbing dance bar girl situation few years ago, he is really my ticket that I am the family inside man. His mother is especially grateful for my guiding hand on her wayward son. Little does she know that my guiding hand expands all the way setting up weekend funs.

    I pick a place at the Palm. Tell bro not to be an asshole and get gifts for the girls. He goes over the top and tells me a massive budget. I talk him down to a more reasonable thing and tell him that I will get it and he will pay be back. Its small gold jewelry which I know Sibi will like and assume so would Fifi. It is made it out from both bro and me. I have told him nothing about the girls getting allowances just that I will manage all the money part and he will pay be back. My intention is that he will be paying for the entire weekend. Knowing him, he is going to make too large a payment, so I need to keep things in check.

    I meet the girls before. Fifi needs 15 minutes to get ready, I know that this means, so I park and I go up. Sibi is also not ready, the room is mess to my great irritation. Bro is calling non-stop. I am watching some random Tv outside when the girls are getting dressed. I catch a glimpse of freshly showered Fifi in the mirror through the open door and feel a stirring in the loins. I get into the room, Sibi sort of knows the move and what's coming next. Since she has finished make up, she wisely moves out of the room. Afterwhile, Fifi sort of figures out all my multiple hints and we get into it. Not spectacular but it sets a really great mood. I can sense that Fifi is super excited about this whole thing and Sibi after her initial reluctance is into it too. All this stuff has delayed lunch to nearly 3 pm.

  14. #1487
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    If it's a scam, she will immediately block or ghost you if you pick the place. The standard line I have encountered many times from such scammers is "we meet, we talk and decide where we go".

    A favorite spot in business bay for them is Hyde Hotel. Moroccans, Lebanese, Syrian girls are all doing it.
    I encountered this during my last trip to Dubai. The lady picked up a spot near DIFC, and when I told her I am not comfortable there have too may friends in DIFC), got blocked! - I did suggest her a better spot than what she picked up near DIFC.

    Looks like this is the new marketing strategy of some pubs / restaurants.

  15. #1486

    Thanks for the lead

    Quote Originally Posted by NoBuglyFitches  [View Original Post]
    Studley -- wrong subforum. This one is for Dubai. Look for the general Seeking subforum under Dating Agencies
    Thanks for this, I got Seeking for Dummies guide in the forum.

    Have managerd to get a Polish girl from Warsaw to join me on the trip, let's see how it goes. Will post an FR when done.

    For me this is a whole new way to monger, looking forward to find some interesting arrangements in Dubai as well 1!

    S.

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