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  1. #2904
    Quote Originally Posted by Lou32  [View Original Post]
    It's theoretical but I think the situation is being blown a bit out of proportion.

    Everyone here who has had sex since February 2020 has likely been exposed to and / or passed on the virus.

    If you had a three week trip and at the end tested positive then you've probably already passed it on to multiple girls.

    Young women make up a tiny, tiny portion of those who end up in the hospital but, yes, they could pass it on to abuelita or another immunocompromised family member.

    It isn't automatic I'd call in a chica if I was stuck but feeling fine. But I'd let her make her own fully informed decision.

    I take the virus seriously but it isn't AIDS or Ebola.

    I respect other viewpoints on that though.
    It isn't AIDS or Ebola. It's worse.

    Ebola first. At least so far Ebola has been contained. Unless you're spending time in a few different African countries, it's not currently a concern.

    AIDS is terrible (although at least one person here believes it's nothing at all). However, transmission of the virus is very difficult. You would have to be either sharing needles with the girls, or having bareback anal sex to have any real chance to transmit it to another person.

    With Covid, you just need to breathe close to someone for a few seconds and there's a chance of infection.

    There's a problem with letting others make informed decisions. Not everyone makes good decisions. If they did, none of the girls would already have kids before they reach 16. If everyone made good decisions there would be no arrests for drunk driving. The list of examples is endless.

  2. #2903
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I asked this before Ptr, and I will ask it again in a different way. You know that 90% of people who die in a hospital have microscopic pulmonary emboli at the time of death and 35% have gross emboli before Covid came around. So if you wanted to call those people Covid deaths, no one would stop you, but we both know those clots may not have been due to Covid.

    How are you determining if strokes and heart attacks and emboli are due to Covid or not?
    How can you say that when Covid is undeniably causing emboli and micro emboli. When anticoagulants make us a core core part of treatment regimens. This is ridiculous, it's like saying some deaths are classed as respiratory failure and since Covid itself does not stop ones breathing it's not from Covid. It's sheer nonsense.

  3. #2902
    Quote Originally Posted by Lou32  [View Original Post]
    It's theoretical but I think the situation is being blown a bit out of proportion.

    Everyone here who has had sex since February 2020 has likely been exposed to and / or passed on the virus.

    If you had a three week trip and at the end tested positive then you've probably already passed it on to multiple girls.

    Young women make up a tiny, tiny portion of those who end up in the hospital but, yes, they could pass it on to abuelita or another immunocompromised family member.

    It isn't automatic I'd call in a chica if I was stuck but feeling fine. But I'd let her make her own fully informed decision.

    I take the virus seriously but it isn't AIDS or Ebola.

    I respect other viewpoints on that though.
    Not true, I have been 3 times in this time frame. Been with multiple chicas. As recently as December my antibody test suggested no natural immunity. So I have not been infected. As to your callousness about passing it on, it's just inconsiderate. Whether it's this on influenza or anything else, you should act responsibly. Why would you knowingly subject someone to it?

  4. #2901

    We all

    Have stuff to do, living being one of them. I went through (skimmed) all of your posts and you seem reasonably educated. However, there is such a thing as a readability test and your lectures come off as a bit on the dense side. I got myself a PDF of Kennedy's book on Fauci today and I also skimmed that, having first listened to the audio (which I also have), or at least to the first piece where he listed all his heavy hitting backers. An insider told me he has some real heavy hitters, household names. I am familiar with the Fog of War and Tolstoy's take on it in War and Peace.

    I just dipped into Kennedy's stuff, on a chapter on AIDS and on another, later one. Kennedy paints Fauci out as a bad dude and I'd say he ain't wrong.

    Long story short: Kennedy's is written in a glossy sheen kind of way, multiple hundreds of pages that should have been condensed and made more rigorous, at least for me, who is NOT the target audience. You, on the other hand, seem to be impressing the other way. The most I would take from here is some of the throw ways of Mr Entertainment and his type.

    Bottom Line: Not only am not taking any jab but I am prepared to let every monger know, whether they wish me well or ill, that I shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty and of my DNA.

    I have come to this conclusion after careful and mature reflection. For me, the case is closed.

    Until they bring in their carbon tax nonsense of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ptrbrgr  [View Original Post]
    I also appreciate the dialogue and that you share your reasoning in a way one can have a discussion. With apologies, my response will be a bit shorter as things are very busy at the moment..

  5. #2900
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Cause of death? Car accident. No autopsy was performed. My stepfather was asked if he wanted an autopsy and he said no. If the official cause of death was a stroke, the accidental death, double indemnity would not have been paid and he was not willing to lose that money.
    LOL. Yeah, and this is how most deaths go. If you are a doctor and put down stroke, you get shit. If you put down accident, you don't. So what are you going to do? Usually doctors do not get paid for filling out death certificates so they just put down a PC answer.

    The Danish did a study and said cause of death was determined in 70% of cases by history. So JJ you allude to the fact that an autopsy would have shown stroke. It is not as yes or no as you think. If an autopsy was done, it probably would not have been definitive even if cause of death was stroke.

    You guys keep quoting Villainy and I have to read his crap. He wrote, "I don't think a medical examiner is going to explore cause of death. " First off, most death certificates are not filled out by medical examiners. Second, the CDC wants doctors to list if someone is Covid + on the death certificate even if it is not related to his death.

    The problem is, and what the CDC director is trying to say, is that there have not been two columns with Covid deaths: with Covid and from Covid. NOW she is trying to make a distinction.

    Just like your stepfather manipulated things, the CDC is doing that too. To me, this is old news. The CDC has played with the numbers with opioid deaths and AIDS in the past, and they are doing it here. The interesting thing to me is why CDC head Walensky is making this distinction now.

  6. #2899
    Quote Originally Posted by Ptrbrgr  [View Original Post]
    It is not just a number that directly conflicts with what this Dr. Malone said about there being zero omicron deaths, it is also reality that directly conflicts with it. One of the reasons I only check in here every once in a while is that I am rather busy writing post-mortems, which includes those for people who died from COVID after being infected with omicron. If you have this Dr. Malone on speed dial, could you kindly ask him if he has any suggestions what we might be doing wrong in his opinion? Are these people in our morgue not really dead, maybe? Or when we sequence the virus, are we maybe messing up the read alignment and the variant calling? Any other suggestions? In advance, please give my utmost gratitude to Dr. Malone for enlightening us.
    I asked this before Ptr, and I will ask it again in a different way. You know that 90% of people who die in a hospital have microscopic pulmonary emboli at the time of death and 35% have gross emboli before Covid came around. So if you wanted to call those people Covid deaths, no one would stop you, but we both know those clots may not have been due to Covid.

    How are you determining if strokes and heart attacks and emboli are due to Covid or not?

  7. #2898

    Public service announcement

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou32  [View Original Post]
    Why?

    It isn't the AIDS virus. And "positive" doesn't guarantee that you have the virus. And I believe I wrote "if they are willing to risk it" so that means fully informing them..
    Side topic but I take descovy for PREP. I don't have aids and this pill prevents aids 99%.
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  8. #2897
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    If you test positive it is almost certain you have it. There are lots of false negatives with antigen testing, but not a lot of false positives.

    And it should not be up to them "if they are willing to risk it". It seems simple to me. If I test positive I probably have covid, if it was by an antigen test I am almost certainly contagious. No matter how I feel. And just be a good person who says. I don't want to take a chance on infecting anyone else even if they agree to it. It's only a few days in ones life. You don't have to knowingly put someone at risk, even if the risk is small.

    Of course all of this is just theoretical. I'm not saying you are that person.
    It's theoretical but I think the situation is being blown a bit out of proportion.

    Everyone here who has had sex since February 2020 has likely been exposed to and / or passed on the virus.

    If you had a three week trip and at the end tested positive then you've probably already passed it on to multiple girls.

    Young women make up a tiny, tiny portion of those who end up in the hospital but, yes, they could pass it on to abuelita or another immunocompromised family member.

    It isn't automatic I'd call in a chica if I was stuck but feeling fine. But I'd let her make her own fully informed decision.

    I take the virus seriously but it isn't AIDS or Ebola.

    I respect other viewpoints on that though.

  9. #2896
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    At least someone in the USA is thinking with some sense.

    "News Alert: Supreme Court blocks nationwide vaccine and testing mandate for large businesses.

    The Supreme Court blocked President Joe Biden's vaccine or testing requirement aimed at large businesses, but it allowed a vaccine mandate for certain health care workers to go into effect nationwide..
    There's a reasonable chance the insurance companies will effectively create a vaccine mandate for large companies. They've done something similar in other areas.

    Covid increases health care costs and the majority of the costs are for treatment of the unvaccinated. That cuts into the insurance company profits. What are the chances of the major health insurers significantly raising premiums for companies which don't require vaccination?

    The mandate for healthcare workers applies to 10 million healthcare workers. That's about half of them. "Certain healthcare workers" is phrased to suggest that a fairly small number of healthcare workers are affected.

  10. #2895
    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    Absolute bovine feces. Just not true. First of all you over stated your example. If an accident victim is decapitated, I don't think the medical examiner is going to explore the cause of death. I think he (or she) knows that a decapitation is fatal. Do you seriously think he (or she) is going to run CoVid tests? Maybe look for poison? What about evidence of a seizure? Without a reason to search further, that body is going down as a car accident / decapitation and it's on to the next case. This is never branded as a CoVid death. This "classification issue" has been raised in several of your podcasts / blogs and has been debunked and debunked again. So, why don't you spend a few minutes researching instead of rebranding the latest crap as new insight.
    This part is very solid. I have 2 personal examples related to what you wrote.

    The first happened when I was driving a tow truck in San Diego. I got called out late one night for a bad accident on I-15 by Miramar Road. It was a single car accident and the driver was dead, his head almost completely severed. The rules are that the CHP is not allowed to move the body. Only the coroner can do that. However, if the person is still alive, and they seem it necessary, they can move an injured person from the car.

    It was a rainy night and anytime it rains late at night in San Diego, there are lots of bad accidents. If my phone rang late night, I knew I needed my raincoat (they only called me out at night when there were more accidents than night shift could cover).

    After waiting on scene for almost an hour, one of the cops told me it was probably going to be another 2 hours or more before the coroner arrived. Another cop said there was no sense in me waiting. He walked over to the car, said "I think he's still breathing", cut the seatbelt and pulled the body out. Which allowed me to load the car and take it to our yard.

    They knew there was no need to wait for the coroner to show up, certify the death and then remove the corpse. And when the coroner finally did show up they knew he would understand and write it up normally.

    The second incident happened to my mother. She almost certainly had a stroke, while she was driving to the store. One of her neighbors was driving behind her when she started swerving and suddenly sped up to about 50 mph, ran off the road and the car rolled over. On that road, any sped over 20 mph was risking severe damage to your car. The other driver was at her car within seconds and she was already dead, without any obvious injuries.

    Cause of death? Car accident. No autopsy was performed. My stepfather was asked if he wanted an autopsy and he said no. If the official cause of death was a stroke, the accidental death, double indemnity would not have been paid and he was not willing to lose that money.

  11. #2894
    I think it takes a horrible person to specify that you haven't been sick in the past 14 days when you really have. The honor system doesn't work when there's no honor.

    It takes an even worse person to test positive and still plan to invite company over. Whether they know or not is irrelevant, the fact that they may be in dire need may force them to accept the invitation against their better judgement. Why not just wait another 2 weeks.

  12. #2893

    True Villainy LOL

    It is amazing Elvira still in here with the "numbers are cooked" nonsense. If there is some conspiracy to rob medical institutions then why hasn't it sweeped the globe? It's called a pandemic. They have effected the known world since bible times, is in the very book that stupid, numbskull Texans claim to worship. We also had these same dullard conspiracy theories back in the Middle Ages. The Jews anyone? So Elvira, place it where the sun never shines, along with your fellow basement buttbots. Wink.

  13. #2892
    Quote Originally Posted by Lou32  [View Original Post]
    Thanks but, again, I don't mean "feeling sick and then testing positive". I mean feeling fine, testing positive, being stuck in Medellin then what?

    To further clear it up I didn't mean purposely infecting anyone. Personally, if I'm chatting with a lady while stuck in Medellin and she (likely) offered to keep me company I'd tell her straight away that I tested positive but I feel fine. I'd make sure she was cool with that risk BUT if she hesitated at all or if I started being symptomatic I'd drop the issue.

    But all of that is probably moot anyway since all it takes is for one front desk person to drop a dime about a positive gringo inviting chicas to his room then you'd be in a world of shit, probably.

    So I guess just Netflix and waiting it out.
    I don't think anyone is intentionally trying to infect anyone else. If you test positive, there is a good chance you're contagious, whether or not you have any symptoms.

    Both sides of what you're considering have happened to me. The first time, a girl who really wanted to come and see me, had some symptoms. Instead of telling me, or canceling she came over and spent a few hours with me. The next day I came down with strep throat. Fortunately, with antibiotics, strep is only contagious for about 2 days, so I only lost 3 days. This was late in 2020, so Covid was a possibility.

    While I was sick with strep another girl wanted to see me, even after I informed her about the strep. However, she lives with her parents and has a young daughter, so I turned her down.

    The same thing happened when I went into Covid quarantine. Three different girls I know offered to come to Bogota to stay with me until I recovered. In that case, if I had accepted, they would have been quarantined with me for almost 2 weeks, which would remove the risk to others. However, regardless of how young or in shape someone is, there's always a risk they'll get very sick from Covid. It's not a risk I'm willing to knowingly subject others to.

    The timing of your question was bad. One of the girls who I've known for 4 years just lost her grandmother to Covid. According to her, she went from a little sick to extremely sick very quickly and died within 30 minutes of being intubated. The same thing happened to my aunt. One day she got sick, the next she was in the hospital and the next day she died.

  14. #2891

    Unvaccinated assholes

    So you have a vaccine that has been proven effective. Not 100% effective but nothing is perfect. People who then won't take the vaccine are just selfish assholes, and should be taken outside and shot.

  15. #2890
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    The CDC is trying to back off that number because it is going to explode and it directly conflicts with what Dr. Malone said about there being zero omicron deaths..
    It is not just a number that directly conflicts with what this Dr. Malone said about there being zero omicron deaths, it is also reality that directly conflicts with it. One of the reasons I only check in here every once in a while is that I am rather busy writing post-mortems, which includes those for people who died from COVID after being infected with omicron. If you have this Dr. Malone on speed dial, could you kindly ask him if he has any suggestions what we might be doing wrong in his opinion? Are these people in our morgue not really dead, maybe? Or when we sequence the virus, are we maybe messing up the read alignment and the variant calling? Any other suggestions? In advance, please give my utmost gratitude to Dr. Malone for enlightening us.

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