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  1. #2919
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, Gene, I know.

    What is sheer nonsense is not distinguishing between deaths from Covid and with Covid. You make it sound like all emboli now are due to Covid. Are they? And if not, how do you tell which emboli are due to Covid and which ones are not? I have asked this three times now and not gotten an answer. That is pretty telling in and of itself.

    Wow, you mean it is not the virus that causes death from respiratory failure? The virus causes inflammation and the body responds to the inflammation with clots, and the clots kill people? That would mean anticoagulants could save lives.

    Maybe you should tell people that or maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and see that doctors who are actually advocating for treatment of Covid with anticoagulants are getting banned from Twitter and youtube.
    Covid is an acute illness. Acute illness increases risk of thromboembolism, and Covid especially so. This is well recognized all over the medical literature. Prophylactic doses of anticoagulants is now part of the regimen of standard of care and you are utterly misinformed. So don't confuse your political ideology with medical facts, and stop with your facial love affair with your rectum. First go look up your facts, it would be a first step in that monumental effort.

  2. #2918
    JjBirdBrain again illustrates his lack of understanding English grammar. RamDavidson64 stated "95% of people who are at risk of being hospitalized from covid are fully vaccinated." JjBB says "Just a couple of statistics which are different from your 95% claim." and uses five paragraphs to describe the percentage of people hospitalized who are not vaccinated. It appears he thinks everyone who is at risk of being hospitalized has actually been hospitalized. His numbers don't address the statement made by RD64.

    According to the CDC website, "Some people may be at higher risk of severe illness. This includes older adults (65 years and older) and people of any age with serious underlying medical conditions." They don't mention hospitalization, but probably people with a severe illness will be hospitalized. They also state that 95% of those 65 and over have one shot of the vaccine, 90.28% of those 65 to 74 and 84.75% of those 75 and up are fully vaccinated. I can't find any data for those with serious underlying medical conditions. I think RD64 overstated the percentage a little, but in the ballpark.

  3. #2917
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    Hahahhahahahha.

    And the covid cultist shows his true colors. They always do. Grossly misinformed, or just lacking logic. Emotional thinking really is a bee-otch.
    You're still working hard to be an idiot I see. Got to do what you're good at.

    How many people have died in the past 2 years from:

    1. Ebola - 61.

    2. AIDS -. About 1.4 million.

    3. COVID - 5 million.

    How do you avoid catching:

    1. Ebola. Don't visit a place where there is a current outbreak.

    2. AIDS. Don't be an IV drug user. If you are an IV drug user, always use a clean needle. Don't let men fuck you in the ass. If you insist on letting men fuck you in the ass, make them use a condom.

    3. Covid. Other than complete isolation from all other people there is no known way to prevent being infected with Covid. Every measure only reduces the risk. None of them remove the risk.

    I don't expect you to understand that, because you continuously demonstrate you lack the capacity to understand anything. If they ever give out an "Idiot of ISG" award I'm sure you'll get the recognition you deserve.

  4. #2916
    Quote Originally Posted by Lou32  [View Original Post]
    Nothing personal against you but I can't take anyone seriously who claims COVID is worse than Ebola.

    Ebola has a 50% death rate on average and it has gotten as high as 90% dead in past outbreaks.

    No sane person would choose Ebola or AIDS over COVID and I think you probably know that.

    Regarding the ladies. I am not their dad. They are adults.

    If I am stuck in Colombia but feeling fine and getting Messaged every 30 minutes I will definitely be honest about the situation but I WON'T parent the adult female. Her choice is her own.

    If I start to feel sick (symptomatic) or if I already know she lives with a bunch of older relatives or ESPECIALLY if she is unvaccinated then that would be an automatic no..
    I'm sorry you're unable to understand. It's quite simple.

    Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy is a class of communicable disease which is incurable and 100% fatal. It's the deadliest disease, by Case Fatality Ratio (CFR) known. Yet, you've probably never heard of it. The reason is because there are only a small number of cases each it's not worse than COVID because it only affects less than 10,000 people per year, worldwide. Compare that to 35,000 new cases of Covid yesterday just in Colombia.

    Now look at Ebola. In 20#0 and 2021 there were 141 cases of Ebola with 61 deaths. Over the same period there were over 300 million cases of Covid with more than 5 million deaths.

    There's no doubt Ebola is a terrible disease if you get it, but unless you live or work in the areas in Africa where it has shown up, your chances of getting infected are just about zero. There is also no asymptomatic transmission of Ebola. Unless you're actually sick with Ebola, in which case you wouldn't consider inviting girls over, you aren't going to infect another person. That's one of the reasons keeping Ebola from becoming a pandemic.

    Nobody chooses to get Ebola, AIDS or Covid. So making the argument that someone would choose one over another is silly. It comes down to risk. Unless you want to go mongering in the middle of an Ebola outbreak your chance of getting and passing on Ebola is zero. Unless you're an IV drug user, sharing needles, or you're giving and receiving unprotected anal sex your risk of getting or giving AIDS is almost zero.

    Your risk of getting infected with Covid is perhaps 20% or more, with possibly the same chance of passing it on to any girls you see.

    Do you understand now? You can avoid Ebola by staying out of the areas of Africa where there is an Ebola outbreak. You can avoid AIDS by not being an IV drug user, or by always using a clean needle and by not letting a bunch of men fuck you in the ass without using condoms. You can completely avoid those 2 diseases by doing absolutely nothing. No mask, vaccine or social distancing required. How do you avoid Covid?

    Regarding the ladies, that's your decision. Well, assuming you have already decided not to inform the hotel or apartment management that you tested positive and are complying with the legally required quarantine, it's your choice.

    If you inform the hotel you're possibly not going to have the option to invite girls over. The hotel probably won't let them in. If one of them manages to get in, you might end up finishing your quarantine and then getting escorted to the airport to end your last visit to Colombia.

    There are plenty of ways to look at it. The easiest way is to decide you wouldn't knowingly put another person at risk, once you know you're infected. That one is simple and avoids any other issues.

    At the other end of the spectrum is that you would rather risk being banned from Colombia l, than go 10-14 days without getting laid.

  5. #2915

    Covid is worse than ebola or aids. 99.97 survival rate.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    It isn't AIDS or Ebola. It's worse.
    Hahahhahahahha.

    And the covid cultist shows his true colors. They always do. Grossly misinformed, or just lacking logic. Emotional thinking really is a bee-otch.

  6. #2914
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    I agree. Its an argument that has not been thought through very cafrefully to its logical conclusions. It doesn't have to be even one hour later. You could actually test negative and ALREADY have it! - whether from inaccurate test results, or bcos you just caught it very recently. Everyone is a risk. And those that have weak immune systems are the greatet risk. These people should stay at home! Hehe.

    If one wants to eliminate all possible risk to other people at all possible times, we should all stay home and watch internet porn. There is an element of risk in every action we take. We should all accept that as reality and stop pretending that there isn't.
    Yep.

    By now, entering year three, it should be obvious that if you aren't elderly, obese, have some sort of lung or blood condition and are unvaccinated then your chance of ending up in a hospital bed due to COVID is slightly greater than that of influenza. Slightly.

    Is it serious? Yep.

    Is it uniformly a disease that will send you to the hospital? Not even close.

  7. #2913
    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    It's just a cover for Biden's failure to control the virus like he promised. To be fair, there is probably no solution to the virus, it's a force of nature we can't control at this point or ever most likely. Biden should focus on treatments and fixing the insane inflation and horrific supply chain demands which are destroying the greatest economy to ever exist. Put the politics aside and do what is right for the people who are busting their ass to pay taxes to the government and get us out of this historic tragedy. People need to unite, forgive, and learn to cooperate again.
    LOL. This is funny and smart Ram. My passport was out of pages and for some fucked up reason if you want a passport ASAP you have to go to a passport center. The appointments are very limited, and I had to fly to El Paso to get it done.

    The agency people were nice and said they would have them that day. Hours are 10 to 3 PM but the staff stayed two hours late and got us our passports. I am not sure why it took so long, but I was grateful the staff stayed and got it done. Anyway, there were five of us in the room and we did something unusual. We put down our phones and talked.

    There were two women, one Hispanic and one white who were both Republicans. Three men who were Republican leaning independents, two white and one black. What was interesting to me was these were can do people. They are all world travelers who knew it was rough getting a passport but were determined to get one.

    The supreme court decision was reached that day and all of us were pleased. Everyone was vaccinated, but we all hated mandates. We thought ruining the economy for Covid was stupid. We were anti the deep state and concerned the Constitution was being over run. We all thought Biden was doing a horrible job. It was not a Republican love fest. The men made certain to proclaim their independence and lack of party.

    I am a lot harder on the Dems here because they bring their toxic shit to this forum. I know the Republican retards are just as bad but they stay quiet, and I have voted Democrat before.

    Anyway, there was no overt partisanship, and I felt after sharing with those people we all had a bond. It was wonderful to find four like minded people, and I will tell you this. I think the five of us, the can do people there, could have solved almost any problem the world threw at us. I really do. It is funny how that partisanship has gotten people so angry with each other they no longer trust one another but the truth is that if we get good people together like you say and unite, most of the world's problems would be solved.

  8. #2912
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    It isn't AIDS or Ebola. It's worse.

    Ebola first. At least so far Ebola has been contained. Unless you're spending time in a few different African countries, it's not currently a concern.

    AIDS is terrible (although at least one person here believes it's nothing at all). However, transmission of the virus is very difficult. You would have to be either sharing needles with the girls, or having bareback anal sex to have any real chance to transmit it to another person.

    With Covid, you just need to breathe close to someone for a few seconds and there's a chance of infection.

    There's a problem with letting others make informed decisions. Not everyone makes good decisions. If they did, none of the girls would already have kids before they reach 16. If everyone made good decisions there would be no arrests for drunk driving. The list of examples is endless.
    Nothing personal against you but I can't take anyone seriously who claims COVID is worse than Ebola.

    Ebola has a 50% death rate on average and it has gotten as high as 90% dead in past outbreaks.

    No sane person would choose Ebola or AIDS over COVID and I think you probably know that.

    Regarding the ladies. I am not their dad. They are adults.

    If I am stuck in Colombia but feeling fine and getting Messaged every 30 minutes I will definitely be honest about the situation but I WON'T parent the adult female. Her choice is her own.

    If I start to feel sick (symptomatic) or if I already know she lives with a bunch of older relatives or ESPECIALLY if she is unvaccinated then that would be an automatic no.

    But the fact is young folks who are vaccinated are NOT filling hospital wards anywhere.

  9. #2911
    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    Why isn't White House making more anti-virals and covid treatments for infected patients? Instead they just pressure Supreme Court for worthless vaccine mandates. 95% of people who are at risk of being hospitalized from covid are fully vaccinated. Probably more than 95%. Vaccine doesn't prevent transmission, so why make it a mandate? It's just a cover for Biden's failure to control the virus like he promised. To be fair, there is probably no solution to the virus, it's a force of nature we can't control at this point or ever most likely. Biden should focus on treatments and fixing the insane inflation and horrific supply chain demands which are destroying the greatest economy to ever exist. Put the politics aside and do what is right for the people who are busting their ass to pay taxes to the government and get us out of this historic tragedy. People need to unite, forgive, and learn to cooperate again.
    It's hard to get people to "unite, forgive, and learn to cooperate again", when you open with "Biden Failure. " It kind of gives off the wrong vibe.

    Now to address the rest of your post.

    The White House is merely the Presidential residence. It's not a pharmaceutical production facility. The White House can't make more anti-virals and Covid treatments. That's like asking why Minnesota doesn't grow more oranges.

    Do you mean why hasn't the Biden administration seized the means of production and forced the pharmaceutical companies to stop producing vaccines and focus on producing Covid treatments? I think the correct answer is free market capitalism. We could go the embrace communism route, but I'm guessing you would raise hell about that too.

    Just a couple of statistics which are different from your 95% claim. They're different for 2 reasons. First they aren't numbers I just made up and they are much more accurate than your number.

    I'm just going from the numbers popping up from a simple search.

    In Canada, unvaccinated make up only 13% of the population. At Toronto General hospital 70% of the ICU patients are unvaccinated. 13% of the population accounts for 70% of ICU patients.

    According to the Virginia Department of Health, every age group which is authorized for vaccination has a lower rate of hospitalization among the vaccinated. Based on age group the unvaccinated are between 2. 73 and 28.09 times more likely to be hospitalized.

    According to the Wisconsin Department of Health Services, unvaccinated people are hospitalized 10 times more often than vaccinated people.

    According to the Washington state Department of Health unvaccinated are between 8 and 11 times more likely to be hospitalized, depending on age group.

    From the same search, unvaccinated are 3 times as likely to become infected when compared to the fully vaccinated.

    Biden should focus on treatments? I'm guessing you have never had any involvement with any safety department, risk mitigation or similar. I'll make it simple. If every day you have employees getting cuts at work, do you focus on buying bandaids, or do you find out how they are getting cut and fix the problem?

    Maybe this will help:

    "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. ".

    It's much more effective, cheaper, easier on the patients and better for everyone to try to keep people from going into the hospital in the first place. I honestly don't understand how anyone could fail to recognize that.

    The insane inflation is much lower than it was during a good part of the late 70's and early 80's. Do you remember how it was dealt with? Interest rates were hiked to between 10-20%. If the Fed suggests raising rates by 0. 5% the stock market plummets.

    Do you know anything about the supply chain? 2 years ago I posted that the US supply chain was teetering and couldn't handle anything unexpected. Guess what happened? Now it's going to be a struggle to get things going again. First, we need drivers, but to get drivers pay needs to increase, which adds to inflation. Next, we need trucks. But we can't get trucks because we can't get the computer chips needed for the trucks. The shortage of trucks will likely cause an increase in the price of trucks, adding to inflation.

  10. #2910
    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    Why isn't White House making more anti-virals and covid treatments for infected patients? Instead they just pressure Supreme Court for worthless vaccine mandates. 95% of people who are at risk of being hospitalized from covid are fully vaccinated. Probably more than 95%. Vaccine doesn't prevent transmission, so why make it a mandate? It's just a cover for Biden's failure to control the virus like he promised. To be fair, there is probably no solution to the virus, it's a force of nature we can't control at this point or ever most likely. Biden should focus on treatments and fixing the insane inflation and horrific supply chain demands which are destroying the greatest economy to ever exist. Put the politics aside and do what is right for the people who are busting their ass to pay taxes to the government and get us out of this historic tragedy. People need to unite, forgive, and learn to cooperate again.
    Exactly! This will go down as one of worst handled disaster in History. Biden, CNN and the rest are just making it worse. So sad! We are lucky we are in America. Latin American is being destroyed by one poor financial decision after another. We are better then this.

  11. #2909
    Quote Originally Posted by Lou32  [View Original Post]
    If you were serious about not passing it on and not being "callous" you'd make zero trips because one can pass on the virus without knowing one has it.
    Each test is only as good as the last time you were around another human being before the test. I can can test negative at 10:00 and get the virus at 11:00.
    Thousands of guys are in Colombia right now passing on the virus.
    I agree. Its an argument that has not been thought through very cafrefully to its logical conclusions. It doesn't have to be even one hour later. You could actually test negative and ALREADY have it! - whether from inaccurate test results, or bcos you just caught it very recently. Everyone is a risk. And those that have weak immune systems are the greatet risk. These people should stay at home! Hehe.

    If one wants to eliminate all possible risk to other people at all possible times, we should all stay home and watch internet porn. There is an element of risk in every action we take. We should all accept that as reality and stop pretending that there isn't.

  12. #2908
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Not true, I have been 3 times in this time frame. Been with multiple chicas. As recently as December my antibody test suggested no natural immunity. So I have not been infected. As to your callousness about passing it on, it's just inconsiderate. Whether it's this on influenza or anything else, you should act responsibly. Why would you knowingly subject someone to it?
    If you were serious about not passing it on and not being "callous" you'd make zero trips because one can pass on the virus without knowing one has it.

    Each test is only as good as the last time you were around another human being before the test. I can can test negative at 10:00 and get the virus at 11:00.

    And the girls aren't super educated but they are adults so they do have the option to make their own choices and say no.

    Thousands of guys are in Colombia right now passing on the virus.

  13. #2907

    The Wisdom of Crowds

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...NHS-staff.html

    This medic went viral for coming out against the clot shot. Note the number they do on him. Note how the BBC Fact Checkers (sic) cherry pick. Note the fascism of the comments, fascism that is mirrored here. Note the top medics being government / Pharma parrots.

    Whatever happened to the wisdom of crowds, of exploring and asking? One can't even play tennis unvaxxed now without being locked up for being a danger to civilization (as if Australia was civilised).

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ion-hotel.html Australian officials declare Novak a threat to public order who could spark 'civil unrest'.

  14. #2906
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    How can you say that when Covid is undeniably causing emboli and micro emboli. When anticoagulants make us a core core part of treatment regimens.
    Yeah, Gene, I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    This is ridiculous. It's sheer nonsense.
    What is sheer nonsense is not distinguishing between deaths from Covid and with Covid. You make it sound like all emboli now are due to Covid. Are they? And if not, how do you tell which emboli are due to Covid and which ones are not? I have asked this three times now and not gotten an answer. That is pretty telling in and of itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    it's like saying some deaths are classed as respiratory failure and since Covid itself does not stop ones breathing.
    Wow, you mean it is not the virus that causes death from respiratory failure? The virus causes inflammation and the body responds to the inflammation with clots, and the clots kill people? That would mean anticoagulants could save lives.

    Maybe you should tell people that or maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and see that doctors who are actually advocating for treatment of Covid with anticoagulants are getting banned from Twitter and youtube.

  15. #2905

    Biden Failure!

    Why isn't White House making more anti-virals and covid treatments for infected patients? Instead they just pressure Supreme Court for worthless vaccine mandates. 95% of people who are at risk of being hospitalized from covid are fully vaccinated. Probably more than 95%. Vaccine doesn't prevent transmission, so why make it a mandate? It's just a cover for Biden's failure to control the virus like he promised. To be fair, there is probably no solution to the virus, it's a force of nature we can't control at this point or ever most likely. Biden should focus on treatments and fixing the insane inflation and horrific supply chain demands which are destroying the greatest economy to ever exist. Put the politics aside and do what is right for the people who are busting their ass to pay taxes to the government and get us out of this historic tragedy. People need to unite, forgive, and learn to cooperate again.

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