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  1. #4244
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Only a thrid type? Why not a 4th type. One for trans men, one for trans women. And while we are at it, what about one for homosexuals and another for lesbians. And another 2 for ex-convicts. Men and women. How about one for scary black people. One for terrorist Muslims. The whole world is going to be turned in to a huge allotment of bathrooms for differetn monority groups that we do not like.
    Many places already have a third type, a large private bathroom for families or for people who need assistance.

    I've just never understood the bathroom panic, but I've heard the same "logic" applied to different groups throughout my life. One of the hazards of growing up where racism and bigotry are considered to be virtues.

    It all begins with "they're not like us."

    "You have to watch out for the 'colored'. They're not like us."

    "You can't go to church with him. He's Catholic and they're not like us."

    "Don't talk to those men. They're homosexuals and they're not like us."

    "Your friend can't spend the night. He's Amish and they're not like us."

    "Those men are Jewish. They're not like us."

    Now it's "they're Democrat / Republican. They're not like us.

    Pick a label and someone is telling us "be afraid. They're not like us."

    If someone is threatening me, the color of their skin, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, immigration status or gender identity doesn't matter. I'm not thinking "he won't hurt me because he's a straight, white Protestant from the midwest." I'm certainly not thinking "this is serious because that guy is wearing lipstick. " A threat is a threat, regardless of how you label the person.

    The threat doesn't come from the groups people want you to label. It comes from individuals and from the people who want you to put labels on everyone.

  2. #4243

    Counterpoint with pun

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Yep. Good old fashioned 8 transvestite / transsexual robbing crew. Now if one of the victims would have knocked the shit out of one of these guys for trying to pick pocket them that would have been counted in the stats as violence against a trans.

    https://www.h13n.com/ocho-mujeres-tr...-hurto/108410/.
    I also wish that the criminals received karmic justice. But do you kinda see how this anecdotal evidence doesn't refute the point that trans people aren't more violent than the rest of society? It would be like showing a video of a chicken beating up a hawk and generalizing that chickens are the real avian aggressors.

    I'll link to the video of that happening because it's kinda funny. (No animals were really hurt).

    Actually I'm not sure if I'll run a foul (LOL) if I post that kinda video so if anyone wants to see it just google:

    Chicken beats an Eagle.

  3. #4242

    Citation needed

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.

    There are too many contributing factors, whereas the statement tries to get you to believe trans people are just walking down the street minding their own business and some stranger violently attacks them. The most abuse occurs in lesbian relationships, but if I just said lesbians are often violently attacked, it is not telling you they tend to be abused by their own mates and leads you to believe someone outside of their personal circle is doing the abusing or attacking. So are these trans having violence done to them purely because they are trans or is it for other reasons, and by whom?
    It could be that the violent offenders of trans people are from the LGBT community, but I don't see much evidence of that. That's not saying there isn't any, I just haven't seen it. I look forward to you supplying evidence and I will read any peer reviewed study you link.

    The point I was putting emphasis on was that trans people are not more prone to violence than the rest of the public.

  4. #4241
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    And where were you when I was out fucking these women? Locked up in your house scared shitless of Covid. Why would I or anyone care what a cheap, drug taking, beer swilling, gutter dwelling coward thinks? You do not pay women money. You pay them with glue.

    Webster's does not have to define loser in the dictionary. They can just show a picture of your face.
    Glue? And I smoke pot so if that makes me a drug taker then so be it. Gutter? I think that's where you found the putas you 'fell in love' with. I bet your woman sticks her finger down her throat after every sex session with you.

    Glue. Ja ja ja. No idea where that came from. But you can just continue to be morbidly obese and disgusting physically and I'll just, you know, get way more and better pussy than you do. And when I do pay for it, I will know what I am paying for. You find expensive hookers and think they like you. I find cheap hookers and don't care. I think you forget sometimes we've actually met, and so I know for sure how full of shit you are.

  5. #4240
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Only people raised in the blinkered world of USA mainstream media would say such a obviously fallacious thing. The corrcet answer is "the Republicans are one of the parties of the rich ".
    An astute observation, and this has been true for decades now. The last effort to torpedo this might have been Ross Perot and he was rich too! LOL.

  6. #4239
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    DF has taste...
    My comment is not about his taste or he is wrong about Colombia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    ...
    The whole thing about the best sex was this. If you found a woman who could stop traffic, was great in bed, really nice, and totally devoted to you, do you think it is possible you would not stray? It was not an appropriate question to ask of men who hang out in the slums. That was my bad.
    I think the main difference is you want exclusivity and something more than physical sex. Most mongers are happier with sharing and just physical sex. Thanks for sharing.

  7. #4238
    Quote Originally Posted by Huacho  [View Original Post]
    anyone who cannot see that the Republicans are the party of the rich is suffering from a pretty severe case of rectocranial insertion.
    Only people raised in the blinkered world of USA mainstream media would say such a obviously fallacious thing. The corrcet answer is "the Republicans are one of the parties of the rich ".

  8. #4237
    Quote Originally Posted by Huacho  [View Original Post]
    There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you have to spend money to get women. No doubt whatsoever at all.
    And where were you when I was out fucking these women? Locked up in your house scared shitless of Covid. Why would I or anyone care what a cheap, drug taking, beer swilling, gutter dwelling coward thinks? You do not pay women money. You pay them with glue.

    Webster's does not have to define loser in the dictionary. They can just show a picture of your face.

  9. #4236
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.
    Yep. Good old fashioned 8 transvestite / transsexual robbing crew. Now if one of the victims would have knocked the shit out of one of these guys for trying to pick pocket them that would have been counted in the stats as violence against a trans.

    https://www.h13n.com/ocho-mujeres-tr...-hurto/108410/
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  10. #4235
    Quote Originally Posted by DontSayMuch  [View Original Post]
    "Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime".
    That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.

    There are too many contributing factors, whereas the statement tries to get you to believe trans people are just walking down the street minding their own business and some stranger violently attacks them. The most abuse occurs in lesbian relationships, but if I just said lesbians are often violently attacked, it is not telling you they tend to be abused by their own mates and leads you to believe someone outside of their personal circle is doing the abusing or attacking. So are these trans having violence done to them purely because they are trans or is it for other reasons, and by whom?

  11. #4234
    Quote Originally Posted by DontSayMuch  [View Original Post]
    Everywhere there are bathrooms will now be required to have a third type?
    Only a thrid type? Why not a 4th type. One for trans men, one for trans women. And while we are at it, what about one for homosexuals and another for lesbians. And another 2 for ex-convicts. Men and women. How about one for scary black people. One for terrorist Muslims. The whole world is going to be turned in to a huge allotment of bathrooms for differetn monority groups that we do not like.

  12. #4233
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    you have to spend the money to get women
    There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you have to spend money to get women. No doubt whatsoever at all.

  13. #4232
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    Let's not act like the dems are the saviors of the poor / middle class and the repubs are the party of the rich. This isn't a freshman polysci course at a university. Both parties rob the country blind, both do insider trading, get kick backs from lobbys and contractors, especially this joke of a bill sending 40 bill to Ukraine to be slushed around among oligarchs and used to buy up all the cheap assets in a semi failed state.

    The religious angle of the repubs like tom cotton and crew is annoying, but at least they have some moral standards left. The dems are in a race to see who can be the most "progressive" aka discarding any traditional family values be it the nuclear family, gender norms, and all pushing all the minority "oppression" garbage.
    What does any of what you just posted have to do with my post you quoted? However, anyone who cannot see that the Republicans are the party of the rich is suffering from a pretty severe case of rectocranial insertion. Hello? Repeated tax cuts at the top of the brackets? Hello? Zero percent capital gains rates? Hello? Regressive taxation of SS and UI? Hello? Hello? Anybody home? Cutting food stamps? Hello?

  14. #4231

    Trans Crimes

    I don't want to reply to a post that wasn't directed at me so I'll make one that addresses the topic in a more general way.

    There have been trans people throughout history and they have figured out which bathroom and locker room works for them.

    It seems that people who are against trans-women going to whatever facility that individual trans-woman wants to go into conveniently forget that if trans-women can't go to the facility of their choice, it also means that trans-men can't go into the facility of their choice.

    So it's better to have a bearded trans-man who looks / acts / emotes as a man have to use the women's facilities? That doesn't make any sense to me and a lot of other people. And before anyone raises the impractical and non-real solution of making a dedicated trans bathroom, please think that through. Everywhere there are bathrooms will now be required to have a third type?

    As far as trans people committing more violent acts than the general populace, I would really have to see some evidence for that.

    I've read a Swedish paper that looks at this and it found =.

    "The findings show that transsexual individuals were more likely to be criminal than non-transsexuals of the.

    Same birth sex in the first cohort (1973-1988), and no different from their birth sex in the.

    Second group (1989-2003)."

    The first cohort (group) had hormones and surgery without adequate mental health provisions and the second cohort (group) had hormones and surgery with adequate mental health provisions.

    So for the last forty years there hasn't been an increase in criminality from transgender individuals.

    The study =.

    Cecilia Dhejne, Paul Lichtenstein, Marcus Boman, Anna L. V. Johansson, Niklas.

    Långström, Mikael Landéand (2011) Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons.

    Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden.

    Now there are a lot of statistics showing violence AGAINST trans people is MUCH higher than average.

    I'm going to pick just one from as neutral a site as I can find.

    https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.e...press-release/

    The study found.

    "Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime".

    I like looking at non-anecdotal evidence. A lot of studies have issues and they can be addressed and scrutinized, but one random person isn't much of an indicator of anything.

  15. #4230
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    You seem out of touch with the current zeitgest. It isn't 1987. Nobody is worried about straight guys dressing in drag. It's the actual trannies people are worried about, as seen in the gamestop video I posted below. You've seen the trans SW in Botero, you think they're right in the head? I'm actually wondering how many trans people you've spoken to in the states, 90% are bat shit insane and have some sort of mental issue / autism.

    As an example, there are these things called "cons". World con, gen con, it's like a nerdy gathering for cosplayers and anime aficionados. The signs explicitly mention that anybody can use any restroom regardless of how much they look like that "gender", and there has been a lot of backlash because you have guys in drag who aren't "straight guys", but trans guys, with 5 o clock shadows, using the women's bathroom.

    I'm wondering how many non-pros you talk to as well, ask any woman if they want a trans shitting next to them and 90% will say hell no.

    This is another good example of the "morally superior, tolerant" left gaslighting an issue and moving goal posts.
    I just never got around to building a shrine to the Fox News panic brigade. Otherwise, I'm sure I would see it the way you do.

    In my younger days I went to a few of the various conventions, I have younger friends and relatives who go to several every year. From the view of people who actually attend the conventions, instead of someone who believes "the sky is falling" reports from the aforementioned panic brigade, it seems to be a rare occurrence and a minor issue.

    Let's see. As far as trans people. I spent about 6 months, every night in a bar located next to what was the biggest gay, trans, lesbian bar in Medellin. Quite often, because that club was generally packed on the weekends, gay, lesbian and trans people would come in and hang out. Since the manager was a lesbian (apparently now a somewhat famous singer), they mingled freely amongst the gringos and other customers with no problems.

    I've spent a fair amount of time both around the Veracruz alley and Parque Bolivar and have seen the trans who frequent those areas. Other than one who tried to hug me, I've never noticed anything particularly disturbing about any of them. I'm not really qualified to just walk past someone and accurately diagnose their mental health, especially if they are just standing around doing nothing.

    I lived for a year in Hillcrest, the gay community in San Diego. You saw all types, almost all of them causing no trouble at all. Although, closing time at the Lesbian bar often featured arguments because of jealousy. I also spent 4 years volunteering with an art therapy project in San Diego, which was almost exclusively either gay or trans men with AIDS. Again, all just normal behavior.

    Almost forgot, I went out in Nashville one night, on Elvis Presley's birthday (1998? With 2 girls I knew from the area, a guy I knew from Michigan and a trans, I think from North Carolina. The trans had a crush on me and I didn't know she was trans, until well into the night when she asked if it bothered me. It didn't. I had no interest in her, just wasn't my type, but certainly wasn't batshit crazy. She ended up making out with an Elvis impersonator.

    90% seems to be a common theme with you. What a bizarre coincidence that everything is 90%. It's almost as if you pulled the number out of your ass.

    Trans people are more likely to have mental health issues. No question about it. Gays and lesbians are more likely to have mental health issues. People with obvious deformities are more likely to have mental health issues. It's quite obvious you fail to understand why and you never will.

    You also won't understand this, but it's about as simple as I can make it. Compare the behavior of 2 dogs. One dog was raised as part of a family, it was always treated well, well fed, cared for and loved. The other dog was always beaten, yelled at, mistreated, abused in every way. If you take both dogs after 2 years and put them in the same, normal, safe environment, do they behave differently? Absolutely. Without a doubt. The abused dog might damage things, attack children or hide from people. In the dog world it has mental health issues. Do you understand why?

    Many LGBTQ children suffer some level of abuse, because they are different. Years of abuse inhibits normal social development. Even without overt abuse, society tells them they aren't normal. Normal social development is necessary to assimilate into society. Failure to assimilate results in mental health problems. You find the same patterns in all people who are subject to childhood abuse. Abuse doesn't have to be physical.

    How many non-pros do I talk to? I can't tell you. Except when I am physically in the act of paying a woman for sex, I don't classify people in that way. Just as I don't classify people as black, gay, young, paralyzed. They're all just people. When I'm writing about someone I will apply labels for the readers. Otherwise I'm getting PMs asking how much did I pay her.

    I can tell you that I've never asked anyone, male, female, trans, pro, whatever, how they would feel about having a trans person shitting next to them. I will never ask that. I won't ask someone how they feel about someone black, Jewish, Muslim, Latino, Gay, Lesbian, Disabled or Republican shitting next to them. And if any woman tells me that she wouldn't want someone shitting next to her because they belong to a particular group, I would no longer be talking to her. Seriously, who in the world, in normal conversation asks someone "would it bother you if a (fill in the blank) was shitting in the bathroom stall next to you?

    I don't approve of bigotry. I won't. And all of this is nothing but bigotry. If you're going to be a bigot, own it. Don't pussyfoot around.

    Maybe the problem is, you don't know what a women's restroom looks like. Perhaps, like the clitoris, women's restrooms are something you know nothing about. I'll describe one. There's a door, inside there are some sinks, with a mirror, soap dispensers and some way to dry the hands. There may be flowers. There are toilets. Each toilet is located in a stall. Usually, each stall has a door which can be secured from the inside. There's also toilet paper, trash cans and possibly a dispenser for sanitary napkins and tampons.

    Unless a person is shitting, bent all the way over and their head pressed against the floor, there's no way to know who is shitting next to you. You can maybe see what shoes they are wearing. That's all. You can't tell whether they have a penis or vagina, whether they had one removed and the other installed, whether they have facial hair or 3 arms.

    Unless the person in the next stall tries to crawl into the girl's stall, or, they try to reach through, or in some way engage in abnormal bathroom behavior, the girl will be just like you. She won't have a fucking clue what's going on in the next stall.

    Now if you will excuse me, I need to go to the bathroom and I don't want to keep you from displaying your bigotry.

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