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  1. #4390
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    The USA tries. It sanctioned Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia. All for electing presidents that the people wanted and the USA didn't. Much of Central America has also recently shifted left. And El Salvador didn't go left but also elected an anti-establishment people's president. There is a growing solidarity in the region, which can only benefit all. If enough of them can elect presidents with integrity, I think there will be major changes, not just in their relationships with the USA, but opportunites for the people. Also sounds like Colombia will normalise relations with Venezuela, wihch may make Venezuela a more attractive destination for single men, but reduce the nuimber of Venezuelanas on the streets of Colombia.
    Lmfao, soon they might even have more solidarity than Venezuela! Lmfao!

  2. #4389
    Quote Originally Posted by L00PY  [View Original Post]
    This change has been coming along though and I think Colombia is on the right path towards prosperity as a country. A lot of it has been actually getting in leaders that realized that if they weren't corrupt, they could actually bring a lot of good to the people. From my very superficial view of their politics, I'm happy Petro won because of his choice in vice presidents. Both candidates chose Afro-Latina women, but Petro chose an activist, someone who has a history in politics. His opponent asked for resumes and picked a professor that has never been in politics, a very odd choice.

    As for the metro conversation, I spent a good amount of time on it and didn't have too much of a problem with it. The residents of Medellin take a lot of pride in it and it shows. It's just too fucking crowded at times and that's from someone coming from NYC. Getting out of El Centro any time between 5 PM - 7 PM was a nightmare. After spending time in a hotel in LA 70 and one in Poblado, staying in the Nutti made more sense for me given how much I enjoyed El Centro. I'm leaning towards just staying there when I go back next month.

    Anyone know if the construction is still going on in Parque Lleras? Or when it's expected to be completed?

    And Osteo, my last comment about phones was that if you're using an eSIM, you can't move that eSIM between phones easily for most providers. A physical SIM can bounce around phones with ease. It's generally not a problem for travelling I expect to run into for travelling.
    Lmfao, you're happy to see a left-wing extremist without any experience of the real world as vice president. Lmfao, because Kamala Harris is doing such a great job! Lmfao. Some people never learn.

    I can't believe anyone would have more confidence in a good-for-nothing loudmouth than a professor. The contempt for knowledge and experience is real.

  3. #4388
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorPorFavor  [View Original Post]
    You are sooooo neutral, LOL.
    Well I don't see any counter-argument from you.

  4. #4387

    There's always a bright side

    Whether you're happy with the Colombian election results or not, look at the bright side. Quite a few Colombian women vowed to post a picture in a thong if Petro won. Twitter and Facebook are entertaining today.

  5. #4386
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    An almost-developed country, Colombia, gets a new president and people use it as an excuse to espouse their own political predilections, glory and doom, while ignoring reality?

    This discussion, as do most political discussions, rises almost to the same level for me as one of my favorite (original) allegories, "a pack of rabid pitbulls in a pool of piranha" that I used here to describe the vaccine debates, all points there now moot, as I predicted.

    JuJuBee comes across as an appropriately sardonic voice of reason on this topic. Where do people get the idea that change occurs so easily?? Modern politics move in sludge. No one asked me, and I am not going to give another opinion on this thread.

    My guy lost. I doubt I will notice any direct impact on my-way-of-being. Actually, I loved Catgirl's response when I asked her if she cared to share who she was going to vote for, she told me, "I have a blank. " Jajajajjaajajajaaaaaa. She probably voted based on the sound of the candidates names, like many people do.
    Before the first round of the Presidential election I asked my girlfriend* if she had properly prepared for the election. She wanted to know how to prepare. I told her the most important preparation was to buy a bottle of tequila before the dry law went into effect. Worrying about the outcome of the election, once voting begins is completely useless. Might as well drink.

    Catgirl was probably saying "Voto en Blanco."

    https://thebogotapost.com/what-is-voto-en-blanco/29983/

  6. #4385
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    They do. But the ones that allow the USA a free pass to exploit its resources, are tolerated. Only the ones that refuse to be subservient are targetted for coups and embargoes and wars.
    Maybe that is how things were, but Venezuela constantly went back on its word. The Europeans and Chinese got screwed just as badly as the Americans in Venezuela. Exxon sued Venezuela in world court and won. Chavez was convinced the Western world needed his oil but companies invested in USA shale and the Vaca Muerta field in Argentina.

    https://www.bbva.com/en/vaca-muerta-...e-gas-deposit/

    The USA Department of Energy calculated that combined, USA And Argentina's shale gas and shale oil resources account for 32% of the world's crude and 10% of its natural gas.

    The villains in Bolivia were not American energy companies but Brazilian. Morales sent out the national guard to seize the natural gas wells and Lula wisely backed off a military action. Afterwards, Morales reneged on the original deal, raised gas prices, and had a short lived economic miracle. Of course, any action like this, stealing what is not yours, works in the short run but fails in the long run because no one wants to invest in a country where you build up a business and once it is profitable, the government steals it or buys it on the cheap.

    Venezuelan law was that any country in Venezuela had to pay out 50% of its profits to shareholders in the form of dividends. The goal was to make sure shareholders do not get ripped off by companies and to me, that was an interesting take but when I went to Venezuela after having invested in said phone company, the Venezuelans were hostile to any Americans getting one penny of dividends. And that is when I knew the company and country were doomed. Why would anyone invest in a country like that when you have ones like Chile who welcome you with open arms and are hostile towards the notion that stealing is okay?

    For all the socialistic talk of helping the poor, demonizing the rich, and denouncing the USA, Hugo Chavez snuck out $8 billion and put it in his daughter's name and she currently lives in Miami. The issue with me is which kind of socialism / leftist policies is Colombia going to adopt: those of Venezuela and Bolivia or those of Chile.

  7. #4384
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I thought that the US (CIA and FBI) hated all leftists.
    They do. But the ones that allow the USA a free pass to exploit its resources, are tolerated. Only the ones that refuse to be subservient are targetted for coups and embargoes and wars.

  8. #4383
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I'm pretty sure the US is going to take the same extreme action they took when Uruguay elected a former leftist rebel as President. And Colombia will probably experience the same total collapse as Uruguay under Mujica.
    I love it. Excellent answer! People without background knowledge don't understand your humor. Hahaha.

  9. #4382
    Quote Originally Posted by CeeJay1  [View Original Post]
    I wonder how the election of the former guerilla Gustavo Petro will affect the mongering scene? Will prices increase? Will the scene decrease? Who knows with liberal policies it may expand exponentially. Your next p4p encounter may be performed by a former Abogada or Enfermera. It may become a Profesiand de estreno or worst case scenario time to find a new mongering scene.
    In the near term, the Peso is probably going to go down because a lot of companies particularly the oil companies will move out or lower investment. This guy was against further oil drilling and probably used the climate change agenda to do so. What happened in Venezuela was the oil production went way down while drug trafficking went through the roof. The same happened in Bolivia though it was natural gas not oil. There they actually brag about the cocoa crop numbers exploding (for legitimate purposes of course). I am not sure why this happens. Does drug trafficking offer greater freedom than energy production? Or is Colombia like the USA where oil and gas production money is used by conservatives against the socialists / Democrats in the financial world? I would imagine it cannot be traced as easily by organizations like the IMF.

    Oil is Colombia's #1 cash export so if they quit drilling, a falling peso is sure to result. The question then is if the narco operations are going to make up for the fall. They did in Bolivia but not in Venezuela. That would actually be good for mongers as the dollar would rise further still. The problem is you have promised the poor all this money and if you no longer have as much oil money, there likely will be relaxation on rules with regards to theft. In Brazil, Venezuela, Bolivia, Mexico, and even now in many of the Democratic states in the USA, theft went through the roof when the socialists moved in.

    Duque was looking at tourism as Colombia's next great money maker, a good move, but he botched it IMO with his horrible Covid response. If he kept Colombia open like Mexico did, tourists would have flooded the country. If this guy wants to go ahead with the plan, he better keep Colombia safe or at least not worse with regards to safety.

    The narcos like their women so the chance of the hobby going way down is unlikely. OTOH, in a few years, I suspect mongers will be looking over their shoulders a lot more than ever before.

  10. #4381

    All this politico-speak is yet another form of mental masturbation

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Probably just as much as things were affected in <fill in almost any country in the world> under <fill in almost any elected leader>. In other words, no.
    An almost-developed country, Colombia, gets a new president and people use it as an excuse to espouse their own political predilections, glory and doom, while ignoring reality?

    This discussion, as do most political discussions, rises almost to the same level for me as one of my favorite (original) allegories, "a pack of rabid pitbulls in a pool of piranha" that I used here to describe the vaccine debates, all points there now moot, as I predicted.

    JuJuBee comes across as an appropriately sardonic voice of reason on this topic. Where do people get the idea that change occurs so easily?? Modern politics move in sludge. No one asked me, and I am not going to give another opinion on this thread.

    My guy lost. I doubt I will notice any direct impact on my-way-of-being. Actually, I loved Catgirl's response when I asked her if she cared to share who she was going to vote for, she told me, "I have a blank. " Jajajajjaajajajaaaaaa. She probably voted based on the sound of the candidates names, like many people do.

  11. #4380
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    Petro won by a sliver. As I wrote earlier, he is said to have been funded heavily by narcos and right wing interests. During his victory speech tonight he swiftly moved to the center while pandering to the poor masses: "we support capitalism," "we will grow the economy to distribute it," "no more violence."
    Who is saying that? People say a lot of things.

  12. #4379
    Quote Originally Posted by CeeJay1  [View Original Post]
    I wonder how the election of the former guerilla Gustavo Petro will affect the mongering scene? Will prices increase? Will the scene decrease? Who knows with liberal policies it may expand exponentially. Your next p4p encounter may be performed by a former Abogada or Enfermera. It may become a Profesiand de estreno or worst case scenario time to find a new mongering scene.
    1. Nothing at all will change until his inauguration.

    2. After his inauguration nothing will continue to change for several months.

    3. After several months there might be some tiny changes, but it will likely take years before they have a significant impact on the mongering scene.

    4. There's a microscopic possibility he will attempt to make some drastic changes. If so, the Colombian Supreme Court will almost certainly whack his peepee and nothing will change.

  13. #4378
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Will that affect our 'entertainment'?
    Probably just as much as things were affected in Uruguay under Mujica. In other words, no.

  14. #4377
    Quote Originally Posted by SavePros321  [View Original Post]
    If Petro does to Colombia's oil industry what Hugo Chavez did to Venezuela, then it will be Venezuela 4.0 All over again.

    Enjoy it while you still can.
    Why would he? The situation in Venezuela is not comparable to the situation in Venezuela in 1999 and Petro isn't attempting to follow in Chavez's footsteps. Even if he looked at Venezuela, considered it's current state and decided "yep, that's exactly what I want for Colombia" he's dealing with a government which will happily restrict his power if they feel he's abusing or exceeding it.

  15. #4376

    Gustavo

    I wonder how the election of the former guerilla Gustavo Petro will affect the mongering scene? Will prices increase? Will the scene decrease? Who knows with liberal policies it may expand exponentially. Your next p4p encounter may be performed by a former Abogada or Enfermera. It may become a Profesiand de estreno or worst case scenario time to find a new mongering scene.

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