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Originally Posted by Cahdgui
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Even here was while ago report of one guy first time in the club got " robbed " by 2 girls took him about 2000 adding him all of of extras he was not really aware or interested.
Caveat emptor. I don't dispute that there were some scams happening. I dispute that it is a common occurrence. If there are disputes about length of time spent, like I said, if reception doesn't know the time (couch, terrace), they will normally support the girl. If they know the client and the girl is new, they will support the client, I have seen it with my own eyes. If a girls pulls this off several times she will be shown the door.
Originally Posted by Cahdgui
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The fact that there is no price list for extra also get at some cases girls yet their luck and ask 150 let's say for CIM or so.
I heard several times Fritz explaining to new clients that any extra (he is giving examples, CIM, anal, etc) has to be negotiated with the girl if she does it and how much she charges for it. I had as well once a girl on her first day (coming from Wellcum) asking for 150 for CIM. I told her I never paid more than 100 for that and she gave up immediately.
Originally Posted by Cahdgui
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I heard from one girl that some girls asks extra for lick balls as it's not in there package service and can be considered as extra.
True, not all girls lick balls, I would never pay for it extra. Either she does it or she doesn't do it.
Originally Posted by Cahdgui
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If a girl will ask me that in the room I will tell her I want to stop now and go to pay in the reception and complain. Sounds to me like a line no one should cross and pay.
That is the proper reaction. If the girl tries to pull a fast one, stop the room immediately.
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Originally Posted by Cahdgui
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The rate in globe is not 150 $ . It's 175 $ for 30 min when you convert to usd.
And I pretty much agree, just one thing to add that most of the top level working girls go to dubai and the near by countries. No need to register no where and it became main hub for working girls worldwide. But FKK club by far more convenient.
160€/30 .
BBBJ is still standard in most of Germany where law was just a joke.
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Originally Posted by Maxime
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Fully agree with your synposis Brian. The chances of finding a beautifil caucasian (blond, nlue eyes) woman that offers good service is much lower than before 2017.
Most of them went online to OnlyFans or to Dubai, etc. Real pity, but let's see if women from UA will come into play now in the clubs I Germany and Swiss.
Caucasian is not only Slavian type, but there are also so beautiful brunettes with dark eyes. When I became pickier since covid, when rates increased, I still find fresh natural beauties following my GFE in Germany, when You don t only play tourist. In Switzerland, unfortunately, level for looks and vagina potential fell.
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Originally Posted by BackpackBrian
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BUT as I was waiting for her to return I reached into the couch where we were sitting and pulled out almost $600 Euros. I pulled up my pants, took the money and ran out into the canal and hurried down the street. After 50 ft I could hear her and other hookers all yelling and I took off running all the way back to my hostel.
Bwahahahaha. BPBrian is the hero we didn't know we needed.
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Originally Posted by BackpackBrian
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I was in Globe a few months ago and there's still many girls in their 20's and early 30's that are fit, slim and have nice natural parts.
Here is my overall synopsis if interested:
I've been going to Germany and Zurich (Globe and others) for 20 years. Twice a year for one month each trip and I hit all the clubs. I've been doing this since I was 25. It's true that the good ol' days are over, with the 2017 "gummi" law and all the Eastern European girls flooding into Germany after Romania and the incorporated part of Bulgaria was introduced into the EU around 2007. But that doesn't mean that it's bad or fun times are totally gone. It just means finding those natural blondes in clubs like Sharks and Oase are fairly uncommon. You will find more blondes (mostly dyed) in Globe and you will experience better service in Globe than many German clubs like Sharks, but you are paying for it! Remember Globe is $95 entrance and $150 for 30 minutes, but with Globe you get almost guaranteed good service. I'm typically a little more frugal with spending because I used to hit 4-5 girls per club every other day, so when the rates jumped from $50/30 to $100/30 at Sharks, Artemis, Palace, Oase, etc after the 2017 law was passed I started looking at visiting the other clubs (Magum, Samya, Mondial, Babylon, etc) in Germany more often. The only downside is these clubs aren't fully nude, which I hate. But I still enjoy them almost as much as the clubs around Frankfurt.
One of the most unfortunate aspects of the 2017 law is that now all professional girls working in any club has to register with the Gov't, which means many young respectable German and Swiss girls that you might be looking for won't work, as they don't want to register with the Gov't. It would bring a stigma if their families found out. So now we're left with the hard core older professionals that have been in the industry for two decades and the poor dirt class Eastern Euro trash. I'm unfortunately hoping for a global crash in the next couple of years, so that more native German and Swiss girls are indirectly forced into this profession out of financial desperation. Only time will tell.
The only advice I'll give to you is that many of the women who'll still accept $50/30 around Frankfurt will work in the day shifts. Once the night shift starts and more men roll into the club most girls will start at $100/30 unless it's a really slow night and the girl isn't the most attractive in the club.
Overall the quality of the women hasn't decreased by that much since the early 2000's, you just won't find the REALLY STUNNING NATURAL BLONDES FROM Germany, POLAND, RUSSIA, CZECH anymore. Another difference is negotiating, where as before the 2017 law you didn't have to negotiate for kissing and BBBJ, it was included in the $50/30. Now almost every little thing is a negotiation and that turns me off more than anything else. It ruins the experience for me in many cases as I'm now paying double the price I was familiar with for 15 years. The one exception is Globe, but like I said above, basic is $150/30 so you expect kissing and BBBJ to be included for the $150. Also you get the public sex and public kissing which makes it feel a little more organic. I know it's just a perception, but it helps the overall experience in a positive way. Also, on the public sex days, you can ask to be part of one of the shows and the sex is free, you just have to perform in front of everyone else.
The rate in globe is not 150 $ . It's 175 $ for 30 min when you convert to usd.
And I pretty much agree, just one thing to add that most of the top level working girls go to dubai and the near by countries. No need to register no where and it became main hub for working girls worldwide. But FKK club by far more convenient.
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Originally Posted by BackpackBrian
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Overall the quality of the women hasn't decreased by that much since the early 2000's, you just won't find the REALLY STUNNING NATURAL BLONDES FROM Germany, POLAND, RUSSIA, CZECH anymore. Another difference is negotiating, where as before the 2017 law you didn't have to negotiate for kissing and BBBJ, it was included in the $50/30. Now almost every little thing is a negotiation and that turns me off more than anything else. It ruins the experience for me in many cases as I'm now paying double the price I was familiar with for 15 years. The one exception is Globe, but like I said above, basic is $150/30 so you expect kissing and BBBJ to be included for the $150. Also you get the public sex and public kissing which makes it feel a little more organic. I know it's just a perception, but it helps the overall experience in a positive way. Also, on the public sex days, you can ask to be part of one of the shows and the sex is free, you just have to perform in front of everyone else.
Fully agree with your synposis Brian. The chances of finding a beautifil caucasian (blond, nlue eyes) woman that offers good service is much lower than before 2017.
Most of them went online to OnlyFans or to Dubai, etc. Real pity, but let's see if women from UA will come into play now in the clubs I Germany and Swiss.
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There's still good service in Germany and Zurich, you just have to hunt more
Originally Posted by StarletVoyager
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I'm having difficulty deciding between a November trip to Globe or Germany. I visited Globe in 2010 where the girls were blonde type western European and I had an amazing experience. People here have been saying those days are over but I was hoping to recapture even 60 or 70 percent of that magic. However I recently came across an official globe owner's video on you tube and the girls I saw on that video (it has been confirmed by a fellow member here) were nowhere near the levels of beauty I was hoping to see in November in terms of them being comparable to what I saw in 2010.
My question is are girls in Oase and Sharks these days generally, younger, more natural looking with less silicone than at Globe?? The girls also looked older at Globe than what I remember vs the late teen early 20's girls I had become accustomed to in Germany Sharks and Oase.
Answers here may be decisive in my decision regarding Germany vs Globe. Many thanks to all.
I was in Globe a few months ago and there's still many girls in their 20's and early 30's that are fit, slim and have nice natural parts.
Here is my overall synopsis if interested:
I've been going to Germany and Zurich (Globe and others) for 20 years. Twice a year for one month each trip and I hit all the clubs. I've been doing this since I was 25. It's true that the good ol' days are over, with the 2017 "gummi" law and all the Eastern European girls flooding into Germany after Romania and the incorporated part of Bulgaria was introduced into the EU around 2007. But that doesn't mean that it's bad or fun times are totally gone. It just means finding those natural blondes in clubs like Sharks and Oase are fairly uncommon. You will find more blondes (mostly dyed) in Globe and you will experience better service in Globe than many German clubs like Sharks, but you are paying for it! Remember Globe is $95 entrance and $150 for 30 minutes, but with Globe you get almost guaranteed good service. I'm typically a little more frugal with spending because I used to hit 4-5 girls per club every other day, so when the rates jumped from $50/30 to $100/30 at Sharks, Artemis, Palace, Oase, etc after the 2017 law was passed I started looking at visiting the other clubs (Magum, Samya, Mondial, Babylon, etc) in Germany more often. The only downside is these clubs aren't fully nude, which I hate. But I still enjoy them almost as much as the clubs around Frankfurt.
One of the most unfortunate aspects of the 2017 law is that now all professional girls working in any club has to register with the Gov't, which means many young respectable German and Swiss girls that you might be looking for won't work, as they don't want to register with the Gov't. It would bring a stigma if their families found out. So now we're left with the hard core older professionals that have been in the industry for two decades and the poor dirt class Eastern Euro trash. I'm unfortunately hoping for a global crash in the next couple of years, so that more native German and Swiss girls are indirectly forced into this profession out of financial desperation. Only time will tell.
The only advice I'll give to you is that many of the women who'll still accept $50/30 around Frankfurt will work in the day shifts. Once the night shift starts and more men roll into the club most girls will start at $100/30 unless it's a really slow night and the girl isn't the most attractive in the club.
Overall the quality of the women hasn't decreased by that much since the early 2000's, you just won't find the REALLY STUNNING NATURAL BLONDES FROM Germany, POLAND, RUSSIA, CZECH anymore. Another difference is negotiating, where as before the 2017 law you didn't have to negotiate for kissing and BBBJ, it was included in the $50/30. Now almost every little thing is a negotiation and that turns me off more than anything else. It ruins the experience for me in many cases as I'm now paying double the price I was familiar with for 15 years. The one exception is Globe, but like I said above, basic is $150/30 so you expect kissing and BBBJ to be included for the $150. Also you get the public sex and public kissing which makes it feel a little more organic. I know it's just a perception, but it helps the overall experience in a positive way. Also, on the public sex days, you can ask to be part of one of the shows and the sex is free, you just have to perform in front of everyone else.
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Ripping off a hooker in Amsterdam
Originally Posted by Fijiman
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You'd be surprised. Happened to me in prison all the time.
But on a serious note, I has a girl do a "fake anal" trick on me one time. (not at Globe). She thought I was drunk / unawares, and got on top in order to pretend to guide it in. But she then kept her hand behind, pressing my xxxx up against her lower sacrum to simulate the anal tightness. So I was never inside, just sliding against it from the outside. She was quite petite, so I guess she wanted the cash without the inconvenience.
As soon as the fake anal started I knew something was wrong, because despite her small size it appeared I slid in no problem. Then as soon as I was in she was immediately into porno actress mode. And finally when I tried to make her take her hand away she rested, and then instead on getting up, and didn't want any more anal. But I'm sure it commonly works on most guys.
Regards, FJ.
This happened to me in Amsterdam years ago. The hooker thought I was drunk or high. I ended up throwing her off me after I realized she was scamming me. She yelled in a foreign language and went into the bathroom. BUT as I was waiting for her to return I reached into the couch where we were sitting and pulled out almost $600 Euros. I pulled up my pants, took the money and ran out into the canal and hurried down the street. After 50 ft I could hear her and other hookers all yelling and I took off running all the way back to my hostel. In retrospect, if she or her security had caught me I probably would have ended up as sewage waste in the canal.
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Originally Posted by PaulInZurich
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It's explained at the reception that CIM / CIF is extra, so even for new clients they are warned. If somebody didn't stop the girl or pulled out, it's on them.
Even more for anal, I don't see how a guy accidentally fucks a girl in the ass.
Even here was while ago report of one guy first time in the club got " robbed " by 2 girls took him about 2000 adding him all of of extras he was not really aware or interested.
The fact that there is no price list for extra also get at some cases girls yet their luck and ask 150 let's say for CIM or so.
I heard from one girl that some girls asks extra for lick balls as it's not in there package service and can be considered as extra.
If a girl will ask me that in the room I will tell her I want to stop now and go to pay in the reception amd complain. Sounds to me like a line no one should cross and pay.
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Originally Posted by PaulInZurich
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Even more for anal, I don't see how a guy accidentally fucks a girl in the ass.
You'd be surprised. Happened to me in prison all the time.
But on a serious note, I has a girl do a "fake anal" trick on me one time. (not at Globe). She thought I was drunk / unawares, and got on top in order to pretend to guide it in. But she then kept her hand behind, pressing my xxxx up against her lower sacrum to simulate the anal tightness. So I was never inside, just sliding against it from the outside. She was quite petite, so I guess she wanted the cash without the inconvenience.
As soon as the fake anal started I knew something was wrong, because despite her small size it appeared I slid in no problem. Then as soon as I was in she was immediately into porno actress mode. And finally when I tried to make her take her hand away she rested, and then instead on getting up, and didn't want any more anal. But I'm sure it commonly works on most guys.
Regards, FJ.
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Originally Posted by Maxime
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About Extra's: girls are not allowed to "just" make an extra without warning you about the (extra) price. Even with CIM / CIF it never happened to me they "tricked me into this". If you are aware of the extra costs, of course the girl can offer all she is able and willing to do for it!
It's explained at the reception that CIM / CIF is extra, so even for new clients they are warned. If somebody didn't stop the girl or pulled out, it's on them.
Even more for anal, I don't see how a guy accidentally fucks a girl in the ass.
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Originally Posted by Maxime
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Same here, explicitey looking, so the girl also know you know the time, that prevents discussion at the end.
But now, since we pay on desk, time is written by desk when girl takes the key and controlled by desk when she returns with key, so even you fuck for only 20 mn but chat for 30 mn, desk will tell 1 hour, when for their low quality, they don't minus time to go, make the bed, go to lockers to take money and reach desk, costed me 75, but they lost many entries since then and many clients, when I can't advice Globe with such behavior, when I advised History, Swiss, Palace, but I don't like to be fucked. They lost so much more than 75.
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Originally Posted by PaulInZurich
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I have an involuntary habit that I look at my watch when I enter the room. That makes it clear to the girl as well that you know what is happening.
Same here, explicitey looking, so the girl also know you know the time, that prevents discussion at the end.
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Meetup at the Halloween party
Hi all,
Who's planning on attending? I've done a meet-up at a couple of prior parties. It's always a hassle to find a convenient location / time, and of course once the party gets going everyone loses track of time.
How about if anyone wants to meet up, we do it at the benchpress / stairmachine area at either 3 pm,6 pm, or 9 pm. Nobody is every in that little alcove, and the 3 times should provide enough flexibility.
P.S., How's about a secret password for introduction?
Greeting: Globe sucks.
Response: But not as bad as Sharks & Welcum.
Regards, FJ.
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Originally Posted by Cahdgui
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* I was not aware that once session is over and you chat with girl it's on your time and money. Was with some Spanish girl at terrace outside we were done and she started talking stretching the time whole she clearly seare I got no clue it's not a friendly chat and ended up paying 30 minutes for nothing.
You have to explicitly say that you would like to pay when on a couch or on the terrace. Some girls might say then, ok, total time is X, and smoke another cigarette, but you agreed when the time ended.
Originally Posted by Cahdgui
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* another example which happened several times is when you ask girl how much time passed in session she will add some minutes to cross 30 minutes mark and force you pay more.
I have an involuntary habit that I look at my watch when I enter the room. That makes it clear to the girl as well that you know what is happening.
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