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  1. #2001

    Your words ring true

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I may be inconsiderate, stupid, or just uneducated
    The scientists who report the studies aren't making this shit up. Why would they?

    The experience of one "uneducated" mongerer and his drinking buddies isn't as useful as the results of multiple clinical trials involving 40-60,000 people. The CDC data base is extensive, and vaccines, masks and drugs have all been studied. It is no secret what works and what doesn't. Of course, rolling the dice is exciting and often pays off (I once made a fortune in the casino at the Jaragua Hotel-but I usually lose money there). In the case of COVID, with "only" a 2-3% overall death rate in the unvaccinated / untreated, the odds of escaping the big reaper aren't terrible, and Mr E may fall into the lucky group. I prefer to enhance my odds of surviving by being vaccinated and receiving antiviral medications (if the disease breaks through the vaccines).

  2. #2000

    Correction

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I know a few fellow punters whose main strategy for getting BBBF+CIP with the girls is to work on the reality of their general unattractiveness and present themselves as shy losers in the sexual arena at home and abroad, that they just arrived in Thailand, it's been a very long time since they got laid in their home country, not sure how things work around here, gee it would be great and so lucky if they found a beautiful lady like you I could see while I am here, blah blah blah.

    The girl might and often does conclude, yep, he is damn unattractive, probably has not had sex with anyone in a long time (therefore little or no chance of having HIV or any other STI) and certainly not with a girl as young and hot as me and if I rock his world in bed like he has likely never experienced I will be his go-to girl throughout his entire stay. Besides, she might conclude, not many other girls would agree to have any kind of sex with this troll much less Real Sex but I am special and can deal with it.

    Therefore, his being seen trotting around multiple girls from that and other nearby bars tends to contradict that little scenario strategy. Who knows what the first and subsequent bare back girls will say to everyone else about his "unfortunate but sexually safe" profile once they realize they've been fooled.

    Those are the guys I know who are terrified to be seen by previous ladies with other ladies and would never take another girl from the same bar..
    I meant to type BBFS+CIP of course.

  3. #1999

    It messes with their lonely guy strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by SoberHans69  [View Original Post]
    Yeah it's ridiculous.

    I always tell them that I usually only take the same girl once, which is usually true, and might come back for the other girls in bar. If they get a bad attitude I just pay my check bin and move onto another bar.
    I know a few fellow punters whose main strategy for getting BBBF+CIP with the girls is to work on the reality of their general unattractiveness and present themselves as shy losers in the sexual arena at home and abroad, that they just arrived in Thailand, it's been a very long time since they got laid in their home country, not sure how things work around here, gee it would be great and so lucky if they found a beautiful lady like you I could see while I am here, blah blah blah.

    The girl might and often does conclude, yep, he is damn unattractive, probably has not had sex with anyone in a long time (therefore little or no chance of having HIV or any other STI) and certainly not with a girl as young and hot as me and if I rock his world in bed like he has likely never experienced I will be his go-to girl throughout his entire stay. Besides, she might conclude, not many other girls would agree to have any kind of sex with this troll much less Real Sex but I am special and can deal with it.

    Therefore, his being seen trotting around multiple girls from that and other nearby bars tends to contradict that little scenario strategy. Who knows what the first and subsequent bare back girls will say to everyone else about his "unfortunate but sexually safe" profile once they realize they've been fooled.

    Those are the guys I know who are terrified to be seen by previous ladies with other ladies and would never take another girl from the same bar.

    The funny part is the guys who can and do get away with presenting themselves that way and have the looks to make it believable get more BBFS+CIP with more new and different girls in two weeks than I do in 6 months! LOL. So any girls who think fucking guys like that is in any way safer for them in terms of risk of disease could not be more wrong.

  4. #1998

    It is said that there are exceptions to every rule

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Except I disagree. That is not it. I may be inconsiderate, stupid, or just uneducated, but I have had experience.

    While me and other friends and family members have been stomping all over South and Central America and the Caribbean with no vaccine and no masks and as of late been on planes all around the USA with no vaccine and no mask and have not contracted any virus, I have had other fully vaccinated friends and family members that barely left the house and got the disease. Most said it was the worst 2 weeks of their life although they were not hospitalized.

    And what exactly is the treatment for someone that is hospitalized? Last I heard was when they were only sticking tubes down the patients' throats and most of them did not make it home from that anyway.
    So let's hope you and your friends continue to beat the odds, but when the wheel turns to "oo" , let's hope God or if you are here, Buddha has mercy on why'all.

    Oh, and the Pfizer pill is a treatment BEFORE you get into a hospital. The pill is Paxlovid:

    Pfizer said safety data in the trial was consistent with previous studies, which had shown the pills to be nearly 90% effective at preventing hospitalization or death in COVID patients at high risk of severe illness when taken for five days shortly after symptom onset.

  5. #1997
    Quote Originally Posted by TConor  [View Original Post]
    That said, the difference in the way the two groups should be treated is maybe have the unvaccinated have a higher insurance coverage than the vaccinated, since they are more likely to spend more time in the hospital. But that is it.

    The unvaccinated also have a greater chance of getting the virus and anyone getting it (even the break through cases) have a chance to spread it. So they need to be treated as the they are, inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated. The exceptions are for medical reasons, I mean exception for not being inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated.
    Except I disagree. That is not it. I may be inconsiderate, stupid, or just uneducated, but I have had experience.

    While me and other friends and family members have been stomping all over South and Central America and the Caribbean with no vaccine and no masks and as of late been on planes all around the USA with no vaccine and no mask and have not contracted any virus, I have had other fully vaccinated friends and family members that barely left the house and got the disease. Most said it was the worst 2 weeks of their life although they were not hospitalized.

    And what exactly is the treatment for someone that is hospitalized? Last I heard was when they were only sticking tubes down the patients' throats and most of them did not make it home from that anyway.

  6. #1996

    Good point but consider this

    Quote Originally Posted by TConor  [View Original Post]
    The unvaccinated also have a greater chance of getting the virus and anyone getting it (even the break through cases) have a chance to spread it. So they need to be treated as the they are, inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated. The exceptions are for medical reasons, I mean exception for not being inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated.
    In most cases I would agree with you. But we are talking about Thailand, which is still having 10 to 20 thousand new cases a day. Considering reported cases are only a small percentage of actual cases (lots of asymptomatic cases with omichron), the major concern is not unvaccinated tourist adding to the spread, but the unvaccinated getting sick and ending up in the hospital. Anyone coming to Thailand at this time needs to be aware that the virus is still very active in Thailand. Even the vaccinated is taking a risk. That said, I will be there May 3rd with a bag full of masks looking for a good time. LOL.

  7. #1995

    I disagree that's not it.

    Quote Originally Posted by AggieDad1  [View Original Post]
    The good vaccines have their benefits in that they lower the chance of sever illness and death. If you get the vaccine that is your choice. That said, the difference in the way the two groups should be treated is maybe have the unvaccinated have a higher insurance coverage than the vaccinated, since they are more likely to spend more time in the hospital. But that is it. By the way I got the J&J vaccine in April 2021. Since it was getting close to the one year mark and some countries consider you unvaccinated if you haven't had a booster after so many months I went ahead and received the Phizer shot as the booster. Ran a fever the first night and was tired a couple of days but was ok after that.
    That said, the difference in the way the two groups should be treated is maybe have the unvaccinated have a higher insurance coverage than the vaccinated, since they are more likely to spend more time in the hospital. But that is it.

    The unvaccinated also have a greater chance of getting the virus and anyone getting it (even the break through cases) have a chance to spread it. So they need to be treated as the they are, inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated. The exceptions are for medical reasons, I mean exception for not being inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated.

  8. #1994

    There needs to be some common sense

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    The country leaders of Thailand are playing it safe like always their practice is to watch and follow what other countries do even then they most likely after reading everything stand around scratching their heads as the reason why it is turtle slow.

    The pressure is on within their ranks sure it is one day this the next something else but the proposal has been submitted to end two days ago to review the request to end it all by June 1st, personally, I think it might even happen?

    Predictable, prior to Songkran they throw it out that after the numbers should be in the 50,000 range this is classic Thailand to throw a high number out if it isn't reached then leaders all look good, guys like Anutin can stand up and claim they got a handle of things that covid is no match for their medical system. Since Songkran, the rate has dropped to 15,000 a day from 25,000 so are we headed to opening?

    Tomorrow it will be May 1st, the next meeting in two weeks by cabinet cross your fingers?
    The good vaccines have their benefits in that they lower the chance of sever illness and death. If you get the vaccine that is your choice. That said, the difference in the way the two groups should be treated is maybe have the unvaccinated have a higher insurance coverage than the vaccinated, since they are more likely to spend more time in the hospital. But that is it. By the way I got the J&J vaccine in April 2021. Since it was getting close to the one year mark and some countries consider you unvaccinated if you haven't had a booster after so many months I went ahead and received the Phizer shot as the booster. Ran a fever the first night and was tired a couple of days but was ok after that.

  9. #1993
    The country leaders of Thailand are playing it safe like always their practice is to watch and follow what other countries do even then they most likely after reading everything stand around scratching their heads as the reason why it is turtle slow.

    The pressure is on within their ranks sure it is one day this the next something else but the proposal has been submitted to end two days ago to review the request to end it all by June 1st, personally, I think it might even happen?

    Predictable, prior to Songkran they throw it out that after the numbers should be in the 50,000 range this is classic Thailand to throw a high number out if it isn't reached then leaders all look good, guys like Anutin can stand up and claim they got a handle of things that covid is no match for their medical system. Since Songkran, the rate has dropped to 15,000 a day from 25,000 so are we headed to opening?

    Tomorrow it will be May 1st, the next meeting in two weeks by cabinet cross your fingers?

  10. #1992

    Just not worth it

    Quote Originally Posted by AggieDad1  [View Original Post]
    I tried applying in the opening minutes of the new Thailand Pass. Needless to say the first few hours did not go well. It was about 2 and one half hours into the process when I finally got a popup with a code and a notice saying I should have my pas in "3 to 5 days". I used the code to check my status and that screen said "48 hours". Three hours after getting the popup I received an official email confirming my application. About 13 hours from receiving the email I received another email with my approved Thailand Pass QR code. I am hearing that people applying now are receiving there QR code much faster.
    When so many other places will not require such BS.

  11. #1991

    Thailand Pass Worked

    I tried applying in the opening minutes of the new Thailand Pass. Needless to say the first few hours did not go well. It was about 2 and one half hours into the process when I finally got a popup with a code and a notice saying I should have my pas in "3 to 5 days". I used the code to check my status and that screen said "48 hours". Three hours after getting the popup I received an official email confirming my application. About 13 hours from receiving the email I received another email with my approved Thailand Pass QR code. I am hearing that people applying now are receiving there QR code much faster.

  12. #1990
    Quote Originally Posted by AggieDad1  [View Original Post]
    ...So I started looking at May 2nd as a good date for leaving Houston and arriving on May 3rd in Bangkok. But then I find out since the rules are changing I cannot even apply for Thailand pass until the 29th of April. Just my luck.
    Typical Thai action. Declare May 1 the date of change but not provide a reasonable way for anybody to arrive until well after May 1.

    One Thai Pass problem from January is that my first choice COVID insurance company refused to cover me and their automated rejection didn't state why. I applied to another company and was quickly accepted. Nothing is certain about Thai Pass until you actually have it in hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nixonbd  [View Original Post]
    In the Pattaya vids I have seen over the past couple weeks, very few people are wearing masks as they walk around town and neither are the girls standing on the street outside their bars.
    I didn't get to Pattaya in my recent trip, but people in several other areas were wearing masks consistently until they got seated at their restaurant. I'd estimate 95% wearing masks on BTS / MRT and airports, 90% in malls and stores, 80% on streets away from red light districts, 20% on streets in red light districts, and 10% in restaurants. Farang wore masks less than Thai.

  13. #1989
    Quote Originally Posted by OlderMan4U  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, who would have thought Thailand would outdo the United States in terms of getting things back to normal.

    Quite frankly I was shocked that the Thai government basically said, screw this, we're opening back up fully with little to no restrictions on May 1st. At the rate they were going, I would have thought nothing would have changed until towards the end of the year.

    I do believe this will finally be the so called "game changer" in terms of reinvigorating tourism to Thailand, at least until there are no restrictions. But May 1st, as long are you are fully vaccinated, no more testing whatsoever required (only self test recommended if needed). For those not vaccinated, all they need to do to avoid the quarantine and testing in country, is to test negative no more than 72 hours before flight. That's as good as it gets..
    In the Pattaya vids I have seen over the past couple weeks, very few people are wearing masks as they walk around town and neither are the girls standing on the street outside their bars.

  14. #1988
    Quote Originally Posted by OlderMan4U  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, who would have thought Thailand would outdo the United States in terms of getting things back to normal..
    Just remember, its not Thailand greeting you before you board the flight. Its the airline and their rules you have to follow. And for those flying from the USA and Canada, remember that you are not flying into Thailand on your original carrier but a foreign carrier and it is their rules you have to follow when you go to board that flight.

  15. #1987
    Quote Originally Posted by OlderMan4U  [View Original Post]
    For those not vaccinated, all they need to do to avoid the quarantine and testing in country, is to test negative no more than 72 hours before flight. That's as good as it gets.
    Thanks. I had not seen that. Last I saw when this was announced the other day is that nonvaxed have to quarantine 5 days and everyone has to have 10K insurance.

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